I've also heard some people want mental disorders in the game.
I have post traumatic stress disorder (I don't know, how it's called in English, so trying to translate as close as possible) and I'd say a big NO to having this in the game. Because it's not a part of my "unique, special personality". It's just something, that affects my life, but it has nothing to do with who I am, because "me" is someone, who likes to sing and play games, who loves pizza and coca cola, who has many friends, who sometimes can be grumpy, who has a cd record collection etc and that's what tells you about me. That's what my personality actually is, but having a disorder is NOT a part of my personality like tastes, traits, point of view and beliefs.
And this carp causes constant stress. I don't nee any "aww", because in my eyes it's not such a big problem and I'm used to it, but it's still prety carppy. Post traumatic stress disorder is when you have loving friends and family, but their support still doesn't relieve your constant stress and expecting the worst. Wouldn't need this in the game.
I've also heard some people want mental disorders in the game.
I have a post traumatic stress disorder (I don't know, how it's called in English, so trying to translate as close as possible) and I'd say a big NO to having this in the game. Because it's not a part of my "unique, special personality". It's just something, that affects my life, but it has nothing to do with who I am, because "me" is someone, who likes to sing and play games, who loves pizza and coca cola, who has many friends, who sometimes can be grumpy, who has a cd record collection etc and that's what tells you about me. That's what my personality actually is, but having a disorder is NOT a part of my personality like tastes, traits, point of view and beliefs.
And this carp causes constant stress. I don't nee any "aww", because in my eyes it's not such a big problem and I'm used to it, but it's still prety carppy. Post traumatic stress disorder is when you have loving friends and family, but their support still doesn't relieve your constant stress and expecting the worst. Wouldn't need this in the game.
I agree with you, and EA/Maxis should listen, and never force this on Simmers that do not want this in their game. I remember years ago, meeting a man in Second L..., he was role-playing a security guard. he told me he loves that he found this online game because he now has his legs back and he can walk around and be strong again, he had lost his legs in the army, and loved now living his life he said with his legs again. This man Did not want to be reminded, he wanted a fantasy world Like our Sims Games.
Now that Second l... is overrun with so much uncontrolled griefing and hacking for the greed of money. I hope this man has found peace in our Sims 4 Game.
we'll give you a full refund. Just make sure you make your request within 24 hours after you first launch the game, within seven days from your date of purchase, or within seven days from the game's release date if you pre-ordered, whichever comes first.
Who said EA doesn't have a sense of humor
Using wheelchairs as just one example, to show how this is very tricky to get right:
Either the wheelchair disappears while the person teleports into the seat, or the seat magically fades out while the person rolls up to the space. This would be the easiest option, but it would also be the laziest, and we know there'd be blowback for Maxis taking the lazy way out.
The person would roll up next to the seat and transfer into it. This would leave a wheelchair object blocking paths in the world, and would probably have some odd graphical consequences depending on the type of seat; do your animations assume the presence of arms on chairs, or not? This would work, but it would be slow, and prone to graphics issues.
The sim can't interface with the object unless there's a clear spot for them. This is the most "realistic", but it also makes things a PITA when able bodied sims attempt to use the object while visiting the lot.
Allow sims to move objects of their own accord. Do you really want sim autonomy moving objects around lots and stuffing random objects in their inventories?
First option would be a good compromise and nothing lazy, and compatible with The Sims way of how work things here, after all at TS3 if no parking places, you store your car into your inventory... then just this, wheelchair sim aproach to a free chair, allign the weelchair to the chair UU
then whellchair disapear (in fact move to sim's inventory) and the sim appear on the chair
I also want to know if Maxis intends to reflect real life and make the Sim in the wheelchair unable to have any type of intimate relations. Do people think their disability only affects their legs? What would that be like? A menu in CAS to mark them able to engage in 'woohoo' or not? I'm sorry, I think that would be seriously tacky. It's rare someone who is confined to a chair (depending on disablity) can actually engage in that sort of romantic activity. Is that going to be in some sort of menu in CAS? Or are we going to whitewash it (reference to Tom Sawyer) and pretend they can all do that and have kids? Really?
I no understand you
Of course disabled people can woohoo and have kids
Uh, no, some can't. Disability doesn't just affect legs.
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@SimGuruGrant, I'm not sure you will remember, TS2 players complained the elderly were too slow, didn't like some idles that defined them by age, such as bending to touch their aching knees or back. Many complained back in the day, they were too slow to use the bathroom. I appreciated those animations and the time it took for them to get anywhere or do things. Because they were elderly Sims. Setting them apart sometimes caused a lot of arguments. I thought that was the very reason you guys changed TS3 and TS4 elderly, where elderly didn't do so many idles like that, and who didn't walk as slowly as TS2 elderly Sims.
Do you want to bring all that back now? I'm not sure you will remember the TS2 Uni, Young Adult Sims walked really, really slowly. That was also complained about and left out of TS3 and TS4..do you think Simmers of today are willing to put up with their Sims moving so slowly again? I don't think they will, especially if you tried to distinquish the elderly again from an adult with those sort of animations and or the disabled.
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Speaking as a person with bipolar, I come to play this game in hopes that my sim self can do things that I cannot do in my real life, it helps to have a distraction and escape and pretend for a while that I am not sick, I do not like the idea of adding these to the game.
I will say this, if they add it, I hope it's in a pack so I can just not purchase it or add it. I have to struggle with my new disabilities every single day in real life, Sims is my escape from that and it would ruin my game completely if they added it as a bg update where I would have no choice in the matter. I find the whole prospect very upsetting honestly.
I will say this, if they add it, I hope it's in a pack so I can just not purchase it or add it. I have to struggle with my new disabilities every single day in real life, Sims is my escape from that and it would ruin my game completely if they added it as a bg update where I would have no choice in the matter. I find the whole prospect very upsetting honestly.
Would it even be possible for EA to let them do a whole pack like this and not charge for it? Grant says they wouldn't charge but there are the animations they would have to create for a cane, Sims sitting all the time, and the multitasking issues while sitting all the time etc. I'm not sure they could give away an entire pack with that much animation and coding being put into it. And if it's patched in how do they stop it from affecting all players since the most of the animations for a lot of things would have to change in this game.
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I will say this, if they add it, I hope it's in a pack so I can just not purchase it or add it. I have to struggle with my new disabilities every single day in real life, Sims is my escape from that and it would ruin my game completely if they added it as a bg update where I would have no choice in the matter. I find the whole prospect very upsetting honestly.
Will be a patch.
But really, to be fair for everyone, and as @SimGuruGrant said will no charge for it, should be a Free Pack, no a patch
I will say this, if they add it, I hope it's in a pack so I can just not purchase it or add it. I have to struggle with my new disabilities every single day in real life, Sims is my escape from that and it would ruin my game completely if they added it as a bg update where I would have no choice in the matter. I find the whole prospect very upsetting honestly.
Will be a patch.
But really, to be fair for everyone, and as @SimGuruGrant said will no charge for it, should be a Free Pack, no a patch
But is it going to be one of those packs we can't avoid? Or like the holiday stuff that was was a real choice? And no one who didn't want it didn't have to install any of it. I think it would have to be a mandatory patch.
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I think I've said all I need to say, it's no from me. Some reasons are too personal to discuss on an open forum. Other reasons are I don't play my Simself and never will. It's too close for comfort, that's almost like that uncanny valley so many speak about, of a Sim who would look too much like a real person, literally. I wouldn't want that exactly, either. But I do use cc in the older games to make them not so cartoony.
And I have family members, too, one is bed ridden from a stroke, I wouldn't want to play totally disabled Sim who would remind me I'm on a game, instead of by their side 24/7. We can only deal with so much as a disabled person or as care giver. Or as a family member who can't hardly deal with some stuff. It's too depressing in my opinion to ever see that much reality unless Maxis wants to build a new game with all the horrors of life and the good, bad, and ugly and more mature themes. That game might be interesting and though I play a lot of darker stories in my games, vampires, werewolves, and haunted houses aren't real. And what happens there isn't real, so yeah, though I'm a deviant player, I wouldn't want to see my family or me in a game.
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I will say this, if they add it, I hope it's in a pack so I can just not purchase it or add it. I have to struggle with my new disabilities every single day in real life, Sims is my escape from that and it would ruin my game completely if they added it as a bg update where I would have no choice in the matter. I find the whole prospect very upsetting honestly.
Will be a patch.
But really, to be fair for everyone, and as @SimGuruGrant said will no charge for it, should be a Free Pack, no a patch
But is it going to be one of those packs we can't avoid? Or like the holiday stuff that was was a real choice? And no one who didn't want it didn't have to install any of it. I think it would have to be a mandatory patch.
Because it I said must be a Free Pack and no a Patch
Only who want it, install it
My issue with putting illness and disability in the game is that there are so many different varieties of them in the world. I feel like including just a few would hurt the feelings of people who did not get representation and including all or the majority would change the entire focus of the game.
That, and my daughter has a disability and would be horribly upset (we've spoken about it together) to have it included in this game that she loves. She feels that it would need to be light hearted in game when in the real world its quite serious and misunderstood. She felt it would do more harm than good to be in the game and it would make her personally not want to play anymore.
Then there's the disabled people on the other end of the same scale which could get more people to play the Sims because they are able to make themselves. Sure your daughter might not be one of them.. but others might replace her
Wow. Ok. You can dismiss my daughter then. But if it would upset her, you can just about bet that there are many disabled people who play the sims, or would like to that would be equally offended and upset by being misrepresented in a light-hearted game.
I'm glad its as simple as just 'Replacing" her for you. Well played. So we should just assume that anyone like my daughter who feels that being made fun of in a game would be unacceptable is fine because you think it is? Just...wow.
Loving yourself is the most simple and complicated thing you can do for you.
You know there is a wheelchair simulator out there. It unfortunately reminds me of Frogger though. The sim can get hit by cars, etc while trying to reach the finish line. Is that what you want?
I am just pointing out how shallow something can really be. Not that EA would take that route.
I think @MadameLee 's statement is spoken from a different mother language than english (please correct me if I'm wrong) @duhboy2u2
I think by replaced she means that there are others that would welcome that opportunity to represent themselves even if you or your daughter would be upset by that representation.
I still feel if it comes it should come in the same way the gender patch was introduced. Use it or not. I'm betting people that are against it for their reasons would still use it in the long run to tell stories in general at least.
Hello Everyone,
I have ability even with multiple health issues since I was born I have no idea of what healthy feels like from Pediatrics to Adult transitioning I think we all agree the challenges we face leave scars on our lives and hearts.
If EA does do this they will need beta Disability testers with researchers from physicians since its teens then Child Life Specialists that work in bioethics would conduct the research.
Next Hippa Standards will need to be fully followed because of Chat, forums.
Finally programmers would need to vent their programmers with a Psychologists and Doctors, perhaps even with Nurses to make sure this ad on provides Dignity for all.
I know because being in the hospital many times that anything medical related costs lots of money but Teens are also needing places to express themselves look at this idea
This is something new to many if developers create such a idea we would have to set Protocols because this game is not about support but a game.
So we can all agree on one thing its not happening any time soon because we don't want sims to be a support network we want it to make is a game.
Google, Apple are getting stricter and they need to partnership with a hospital to help guide them.
I agree it being free I hope they add this as a app so every Teen playing in Pediatrics has this option I believe it should be a Charitable option and free for simmers who have Disabilities only if they want to install the ad on this should be optional.
Absolutely needs to be optional. I for one play my sims to ESCAPE real life and my restrictions - I darn sure don't care to chain my sim inside her house 24/7 because real life has my real self practical trapped like that. Maybe some people want to recreate themselves - I have no issues with that - but i don't, nor do I want to see others doing that to me. I was not born this way - but illness related in my case. So I well know both sides of the coin.
Sometimes we all need an real escape and adventure outside of our real lives - maybe you have to be one of us to realize that for those of us it is a long time, ongoing and only getting worse existance - well sometimes I just need it to play myself as I used to be. I would be furious if it was mandatory - as I would rather not have serious illnesses, disabilities, etc in MY game. I would not object to maybe an expansion for people who wanted it though.
I am pretty sure EA still requires testers to be 18 plus by the way - not teens. They are a public company - so I believe it is required - as even game changers now have to be 18 plus.
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@Hermitgirl My mother tongue is English-basically it's only language i speak with a few smatterings of French (Gr.4-Gr.6 French) and Spanish (Sesame Street U.S. version) and ASL (almost as well as English).
I didn't mean replaced-but like @Hermitgirl said there are others who would like to welcome the opportunity to have their simselves be more authentic version of them-and it's like they feel they don't feel included because disabilities isn't there-in a fake society which has gay marriage and can have supernaturals.
I know this isn't on the same idea-I watch Doctor Who for most of the Doctors (both in the Classic series and the New Who) been Caucasian men. Now the new upcoming doctor
is a Caucasian woman
. A lot of people are complaing about
new Doctor being a woman
and saying they wouldn't be watching the New Doctor. But others have said to the complainers that just because they stop watching it because of gender-changing others might start watching it because New Doctor isn't a
man
.\
So that basically what I meant by replaced-we loose people here because of this issue but at the same time you could also gain people because of the same issue.
@Hermitgirl My mother tongue is English-basically it's only language i speak with a few smatterings of French (Gr.4-Gr.6 French) and Spanish (Sesame Street U.S. version) and ASL (almost as well as English).
I didn't mean replaced-but like @Hermitgirl said there are others who would like to welcome the opportunity to have their simselves be more authentic version of them-and it's like they feel they don't feel included because disabilities isn't there-in a fake society which has gay marriage and can have supernaturals.
I know this isn't on the same idea-I watch Doctor Who for most of the Doctors (both in the Classic series and the New Who) been Caucasian men. Now the new upcoming doctor
is a Caucasian woman
. A lot of people are complaing about
new Doctor being a woman
and saying they wouldn't be watching the New Doctor. But others have said to the complainers that just because they stop watching it because of gender-changing others might start watching it because New Doctor isn't a
man
.\
So that basically what I meant by replaced-we loose people here because of this issue but at the same time you could also gain people because of the same issue.
The female Dr. Who - She's sort of an alien - she has 2 hearts I heard. Like the last one - Peter C. He was alien too - so Dr. Who is all over the place. That really isn't akin to a game we set up and play ourselves. That is a pre-recorded unchangeable tv show.
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Thanks for clearing that up @MadameLee .. sorry if I offended you in any way also by assuming. I gotta say I agree that particular word replaced comes off pretty harsh but I understand what you meant.
But wasn't the Unstable trait like a disability because you had to send to your sim to the hospital to help your sim not get worse. That was in 3 in one of the packs. Not that I would want then to implement disabilities in traits. But we have already kind of had a disability in the game.
I am going to assume that mental illnesses will be moodlet based aka all fluff - no substance.
The traits we have ingame now do not make any noticable difference to my Sims, they all seem identical. I will be gobsmacked if they manage to pull off mental illnesses this way.
The game/producers are not capable of making it in depth enough to do it justice.
I would much rather EA didn't make a mockery out of it by putting it into a game that makes mourning Sims ecstatic by entering a decorated room.
I am going to assume that mental illnesses will be moodlet based aka all fluff - no substance.
The traits we have ingame now do not make any noticable difference to my Sims, they all seem identical. I will be gobsmacked if they manage to pull off mental illnesses this way.
The game/producers are not capable of making it in depth enough to do it justice.
I would much rather EA didn't make a mockery out of it by putting it into a game that makes mourning Sims ecstatic by entering a decorated room.
I can see it being a joke.
none of the gurus have said anything about mental illness just wheelchairs
Oh well, excuse me then.
Disabilities are both mental and physical. If they are going to implement one they should implement the other.
I have said this many times already, it has to be all or nothing and it has to be done properly. Whilst I do not want it in the game, there are many people that do. There is going to be people who feel offended if mental illnesses are left out, it has to be equal I'm afraid.
I just can't see this ever coming to fruition, there is so many disabilities and many ways how each one affects daily life that I don't think it is possible to put them all into this current game at a level that is realistic yet respectful and there will be backlash over whatever the Devs decide to do.
Like I said, all or nothing.
Edit: Also you're wrong the Gurus said themselves that they were: "actively pondering" disabilities. The last time I checked there was more to disabilities than being in a wheelchair...
I am going to assume that mental illnesses will be moodlet based aka all fluff - no substance.
The traits we have ingame now do not make any noticable difference to my Sims, they all seem identical. I will be gobsmacked if they manage to pull off mental illnesses this way.
The game/producers are not capable of making it in depth enough to do it justice.
I would much rather EA didn't make a mockery out of it by putting it into a game that makes mourning Sims ecstatic by entering a decorated room.
I am going to assume that mental illnesses will be moodlet based aka all fluff - no substance.
The traits we have ingame now do not make any noticable difference to my Sims, they all seem identical. I will be gobsmacked if they manage to pull off mental illnesses this way.
The game/producers are not capable of making it in depth enough to do it justice.
I would much rather EA didn't make a mockery out of it by putting it into a game that makes mourning Sims ecstatic by entering a decorated room.
I can see it being a joke.
none of the gurus have said anything about mental illness just wheelchairs
Oh well, excuse me then.
Disabilities are both mental and physical. If they are going to implement one they should implement the other.
I have said this many times already, it has to be all or nothing and it has to be done properly. Whilst I do not want it in the game, there are many people that do. There is going to be people who feel offended if mental illnesses are left out, it has to be equal I'm afraid.
I just can't see this ever coming to fruition, there is so many disabilities and many ways how each one affects daily life that I don't think it is possible to put them all into this current game at a level that is realistic yet respectful and there will be backlash over whatever the Devs decide to do.
Like I said, all or nothing.
Edit: Also you're wrong the Gurus said themselves that they were: "actively pondering" disabilities. The last time I checked there was more to disabilities than being in a wheelchair...
I agree with you but this is also Societys view even government officials believe Disabilities mean a cane, deaf, blindness or wheelchairs but this takes place with Education as long we all respect each other the forum can stay open and being 26 fighting hard to educate others about my cellular level disease its in the Mitochondria which I have the problems can't program a Metabolic disease well education wise you can but when you get down to physical and Mental you can't program neurons in the brain to react according to real life nor can you create a cell disease in Sims like I have.
Also don't forget IV poles, Catheters or tubes. Here is what we are here for to educate and imaginate what a game could be with a Respected Discussion all of us may find a solution that make both parties happy.
Instead of being apart lets work together to bridge ideas that can give others what they want in a respectful and dignified way.
This isn't a Disability war this is a Chance to change Disability itself redefine what it is if we remove the word "Dis" what do we have ability.
So lets get our minds thinking and create a new solution from a Gurus idea and bridge peace amongst these forums we are stronger together then being apart.
But wasn't the Unstable trait like a disability because you had to send to your sim to the hospital to help your sim not get worse. That was in 3 in one of the packs. Not that I would want then to implement disabilities in traits. But we have already kind of had a disability in the game.
I had a neurotic Coward once in Sims 3 - that one was interesting until their constant passing out or checking the stove drove me nuts. I do like to sometime try crazy trait combinations but my long range games always have a more stable number of Sims with the more normal traits unless it's just tied to a particular Sim or sims family that's part of maybe my story in that game. I never make them Legacies - for sure. I would not want them ever mandatory - it needs to be optional for me anyway.
I don't recall sending a sim to the hospital though to overcome anything - so perhaps I never used that trait.
I do recall sending sims in Sims 2 to the Psychiatrist in game when they would get a bit crazy - but not in Sims 3 that I recall. In Sims 2 I don't believe it was highly trait related just having a hard life at times. Yes family sims would get weird with no baby, and people wanting to be rich got weird over no money and such so they worked with trait but it was work out- a -ble in that game. That was fun as it was unplanned though unlike full traits instability..
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I have post traumatic stress disorder (I don't know, how it's called in English, so trying to translate as close as possible) and I'd say a big NO to having this in the game. Because it's not a part of my "unique, special personality". It's just something, that affects my life, but it has nothing to do with who I am, because "me" is someone, who likes to sing and play games, who loves pizza and coca cola, who has many friends, who sometimes can be grumpy, who has a cd record collection etc and that's what tells you about me. That's what my personality actually is, but having a disorder is NOT a part of my personality like tastes, traits, point of view and beliefs.
And this carp causes constant stress. I don't nee any "aww", because in my eyes it's not such a big problem and I'm used to it, but it's still prety carppy. Post traumatic stress disorder is when you have loving friends and family, but their support still doesn't relieve your constant stress and expecting the worst. Wouldn't need this in the game.
I agree with you, and EA/Maxis should listen, and never force this on Simmers that do not want this in their game. I remember years ago, meeting a man in Second L..., he was role-playing a security guard. he told me he loves that he found this online game because he now has his legs back and he can walk around and be strong again, he had lost his legs in the army, and loved now living his life he said with his legs again. This man Did not want to be reminded, he wanted a fantasy world Like our Sims Games.
Now that Second l... is overrun with so much uncontrolled griefing and hacking for the greed of money. I hope this man has found peace in our Sims 4 Game.
Who said EA doesn't have a sense of humor
First option would be a good compromise and nothing lazy, and compatible with The Sims way of how work things here, after all at TS3 if no parking places, you store your car into your inventory... then just this, wheelchair sim aproach to a free chair, allign the weelchair to the chair UU
then whellchair disapear (in fact move to sim's inventory) and the sim appear on the chair
Uh, no, some can't. Disability doesn't just affect legs.
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Do you want to bring all that back now? I'm not sure you will remember the TS2 Uni, Young Adult Sims walked really, really slowly. That was also complained about and left out of TS3 and TS4..do you think Simmers of today are willing to put up with their Sims moving so slowly again? I don't think they will, especially if you tried to distinquish the elderly again from an adult with those sort of animations and or the disabled.
Would it even be possible for EA to let them do a whole pack like this and not charge for it? Grant says they wouldn't charge but there are the animations they would have to create for a cane, Sims sitting all the time, and the multitasking issues while sitting all the time etc. I'm not sure they could give away an entire pack with that much animation and coding being put into it. And if it's patched in how do they stop it from affecting all players since the most of the animations for a lot of things would have to change in this game.
Will be a patch.
But really, to be fair for everyone, and as @SimGuruGrant said will no charge for it, should be a Free Pack, no a patch
But is it going to be one of those packs we can't avoid? Or like the holiday stuff that was was a real choice? And no one who didn't want it didn't have to install any of it. I think it would have to be a mandatory patch.
And I have family members, too, one is bed ridden from a stroke, I wouldn't want to play totally disabled Sim who would remind me I'm on a game, instead of by their side 24/7. We can only deal with so much as a disabled person or as care giver. Or as a family member who can't hardly deal with some stuff. It's too depressing in my opinion to ever see that much reality unless Maxis wants to build a new game with all the horrors of life and the good, bad, and ugly and more mature themes. That game might be interesting and though I play a lot of darker stories in my games, vampires, werewolves, and haunted houses aren't real. And what happens there isn't real, so yeah, though I'm a deviant player, I wouldn't want to see my family or me in a game.
Because it I said must be a Free Pack and no a Patch
Only who want it, install it
Wow. Ok. You can dismiss my daughter then. But if it would upset her, you can just about bet that there are many disabled people who play the sims, or would like to that would be equally offended and upset by being misrepresented in a light-hearted game.
I'm glad its as simple as just 'Replacing" her for you. Well played. So we should just assume that anyone like my daughter who feels that being made fun of in a game would be unacceptable is fine because you think it is? Just...wow.
I am just pointing out how shallow something can really be. Not that EA would take that route.
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I think by replaced she means that there are others that would welcome that opportunity to represent themselves even if you or your daughter would be upset by that representation.
I still feel if it comes it should come in the same way the gender patch was introduced. Use it or not. I'm betting people that are against it for their reasons would still use it in the long run to tell stories in general at least.
I have ability even with multiple health issues since I was born I have no idea of what healthy feels like from Pediatrics to Adult transitioning I think we all agree the challenges we face leave scars on our lives and hearts.
If EA does do this they will need beta Disability testers with researchers from physicians since its teens then Child Life Specialists that work in bioethics would conduct the research.
Next Hippa Standards will need to be fully followed because of Chat, forums.
Finally programmers would need to vent their programmers with a Psychologists and Doctors, perhaps even with Nurses to make sure this ad on provides Dignity for all.
I know because being in the hospital many times that anything medical related costs lots of money but Teens are also needing places to express themselves look at this idea
https://www.upopolis.com/login.html
This is something new to many if developers create such a idea we would have to set Protocols because this game is not about support but a game.
So we can all agree on one thing its not happening any time soon because we don't want sims to be a support network we want it to make is a game.
Google, Apple are getting stricter and they need to partnership with a hospital to help guide them.
I agree it being free I hope they add this as a app so every Teen playing in Pediatrics has this option I believe it should be a Charitable option and free for simmers who have Disabilities only if they want to install the ad on this should be optional.
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Sometimes we all need an real escape and adventure outside of our real lives - maybe you have to be one of us to realize that for those of us it is a long time, ongoing and only getting worse existance - well sometimes I just need it to play myself as I used to be. I would be furious if it was mandatory - as I would rather not have serious illnesses, disabilities, etc in MY game. I would not object to maybe an expansion for people who wanted it though.
I am pretty sure EA still requires testers to be 18 plus by the way - not teens. They are a public company - so I believe it is required - as even game changers now have to be 18 plus.
"Games Are Not The Place To Tell Stories, Games Are Meant To Let People Tell Their Own Stories"...Will Wright.
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I didn't mean replaced-but like @Hermitgirl said there are others who would like to welcome the opportunity to have their simselves be more authentic version of them-and it's like they feel they don't feel included because disabilities isn't there-in a fake society which has gay marriage and can have supernaturals.
I know this isn't on the same idea-I watch Doctor Who for most of the Doctors (both in the Classic series and the New Who) been Caucasian men. Now the new upcoming doctor
So that basically what I meant by replaced-we loose people here because of this issue but at the same time you could also gain people because of the same issue.
The female Dr. Who - She's sort of an alien - she has 2 hearts I heard. Like the last one - Peter C. He was alien too - so Dr. Who is all over the place. That really isn't akin to a game we set up and play ourselves. That is a pre-recorded unchangeable tv show.
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Oh well, excuse me then.
Disabilities are both mental and physical. If they are going to implement one they should implement the other.
I have said this many times already, it has to be all or nothing and it has to be done properly. Whilst I do not want it in the game, there are many people that do. There is going to be people who feel offended if mental illnesses are left out, it has to be equal I'm afraid.
I just can't see this ever coming to fruition, there is so many disabilities and many ways how each one affects daily life that I don't think it is possible to put them all into this current game at a level that is realistic yet respectful and there will be backlash over whatever the Devs decide to do.
Like I said, all or nothing.
Edit: Also you're wrong the Gurus said themselves that they were: "actively pondering" disabilities. The last time I checked there was more to disabilities than being in a wheelchair...
I agree with you but this is also Societys view even government officials believe Disabilities mean a cane, deaf, blindness or wheelchairs but this takes place with Education as long we all respect each other the forum can stay open and being 26 fighting hard to educate others about my cellular level disease its in the Mitochondria which I have the problems can't program a Metabolic disease well education wise you can but when you get down to physical and Mental you can't program neurons in the brain to react according to real life nor can you create a cell disease in Sims like I have.
Also don't forget IV poles, Catheters or tubes. Here is what we are here for to educate and imaginate what a game could be with a Respected Discussion all of us may find a solution that make both parties happy.
Instead of being apart lets work together to bridge ideas that can give others what they want in a respectful and dignified way.
This isn't a Disability war this is a Chance to change Disability itself redefine what it is if we remove the word "Dis" what do we have ability.
So lets get our minds thinking and create a new solution from a Gurus idea and bridge peace amongst these forums we are stronger together then being apart.
I had a neurotic Coward once in Sims 3 - that one was interesting until their constant passing out or checking the stove drove me nuts. I do like to sometime try crazy trait combinations but my long range games always have a more stable number of Sims with the more normal traits unless it's just tied to a particular Sim or sims family that's part of maybe my story in that game. I never make them Legacies - for sure. I would not want them ever mandatory - it needs to be optional for me anyway.
I don't recall sending a sim to the hospital though to overcome anything - so perhaps I never used that trait.
I do recall sending sims in Sims 2 to the Psychiatrist in game when they would get a bit crazy - but not in Sims 3 that I recall. In Sims 2 I don't believe it was highly trait related just having a hard life at times. Yes family sims would get weird with no baby, and people wanting to be rich got weird over no money and such so they worked with trait but it was work out- a -ble in that game. That was fun as it was unplanned though unlike full traits instability..
"Games Are Not The Place To Tell Stories, Games Are Meant To Let People Tell Their Own Stories"...Will Wright.
In dreams - I LIVE!
In REALITY, I simply exist.....