Sorry it looks like I caused some confusion over CYS before I left to grade student papers. I'll try to fix it now. @Bird166 I think you were part of the conversation also.
I've been using the regular price, DD price and Elainahere's calculator, is the spreadsheet one a different one?!
No, you are correct, it should just be the regular price, the DD spreadsheet is just an easy place to get it. I think the issue may be calculating your percentage owned. More on that below.
Not sure if I also calculated it well... my math are far away. My goal was to find what was my CYS without the actual sale. For example, Mediterranean Villa Kitchen/Dining is right now 22% off. With the sale, the set cost me 210SP, but I want to know the amount without the sale. What I did is this :
100%-22%=78%
Question : 210/78 = x/100 what is X
Solution : (210*100)/78 = 270 (269.23)
x = 270
Then I used the calculator of Elianahere's and entered this amount in the field CYS.
It gave me a -32 as the price for the set.
Do you think I did good or I'm mistaken ?
This is the underlying problem. Although you are mathematically sound here, the underlying issue is that CYS does NOT work like normal percentages. The percentage of set owned number doesn't actually factor into the math at all, so the above 78% doesn't factor into the calculation. There's a lot of fuzzy math involved. Each item you purchase gives you 90% of its sp cost off the total set, but the first item from a set you buy gives you a "bonus" percentage off (that's why we say always get at least a 25 sp item from a set before going for the full set). It looks kind of like this under the hood:
The basic rule for working out the CYS price is (Set Price*.9)-(Item Cost*.9) rounded up to the nearest 5sp.
Unfortunately, your CYS price is also affected when an item goes on sale, and you can't see your "normal" CYS price needed to use the calculator effectively. This is the part I forgot in my initial post and what is missing in the math. Sorry about that, it's been awhile since I've calculated CYS.
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Now a member of the Own the Store Club! Thank you to everyone who helped!
@calents thank you for your help, I wish I had gone to school on maths days lol my brain is wired for numbers!!
Thank you so much for the outfit too. I can get 5th avenue for 15sps now yayyyy xx
Just a sim-ple pink person
Thank you to everyone who contributed to helping me own the store X
Sorry it looks like I caused some confusion over CYS before I left to grade student papers. I'll try to fix it now. @Bird166 I think you were part of the conversation also.
I've been using the regular price, DD price and Elainahere's calculator, is the spreadsheet one a different one?!
No, you are correct, it should just be the regular price, the DD spreadsheet is just an easy place to get it. I think the issue may be calculating your percentage owned. More on that below.
Not sure if I also calculated it well... my math are far away. My goal was to find what was my CYS without the actual sale. For example, Mediterranean Villa Kitchen/Dining is right now 22% off. With the sale, the set cost me 210SP, but I want to know the amount without the sale. What I did is this :
100%-22%=78%
Question : 210/78 = x/100 what is X
Solution : (210*100)/78 = 270 (269.23)
x = 270
Then I used the calculator of Elianahere's and entered this amount in the field CYS.
It gave me a -32 as the price for the set.
Do you think I did good or I'm mistaken ?
This is the underlying problem. Although you are mathematically sound here, the underlying issue is that CYS does NOT work like normal percentages. The percentage of set owned number doesn't actually factor into the math at all, so the above 78% doesn't factor into the calculation. There's a lot of fuzzy math involved. Each item you purchase gives you 90% of its sp cost off the total set, but the first item from a set you buy gives you a "bonus" percentage off (that's why we say always get at least a 25 sp item from a set before going for the full set). It looks kind of like this under the hood:
The basic rule for working out the CYS price is (Set Price*.9)-(Item Cost*.9) rounded up to the nearest 5sp.
Unfortunately, your CYS price is also affected when an item goes on sale, and you can't see your "normal" CYS price needed to use the calculator effectively. This is the part I forgot in my initial post and what is missing in the math. Sorry about that, it's been awhile since I've calculated CYS.
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I am not sure to understand. My math were to find the "normal" CYS and then use the answer with the calculator. I thought that using the amount given with the sale and finding it's original price (by removing the % of the sale) I would get the original CYS. You are saying that it doesn't work like that ? This is so complicated xD
Also thank you @calents for the gift this is very nice from you. It happens to forget things
Prism art studio I'll try my best I have 473 SP that I am farming since days for that one... xD still a long way to go
Me too! And it's the last item before I own the store!
My Studio
My Traits: Socially Awkward / Artistic / Family Oriented / Hopelessly Romantic / Absent Minded
Academic Trait: Adventurous
Social Group Trait (Should I ever become "Nerd" enough): Computer Whiz ______
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"Anything that can go wrong will go wrong." Cpt. Edward A. Murphy Jr, USAF
I am not sure to understand. My math were to find the "normal" CYS and then use the answer with the calculator. I thought that using the amount given with the sale and finding it's original price (by removing the % of the sale) I would get the original CYS. You are saying that it doesn't work like that ? This is so complicated xD
Also thank you @calents for the gift this is very nice from you. It happens to forget things
The problem is that the "Percentage of set owned" is calculated differently than the "CYS price." I can't remember how exactly percentage of set owned is calculated, unfortunately, I just know it isn't directly related to CYS.
Anyways, you are all welcome for the gifts! I hope they help!
Now a member of the Own the Store Club! Thank you to everyone who helped!
Got it! I can now claim to own the store! (With the exception that I own every elements of the Seeing Star collection though don't own the collection... Hoping they add CYS discount on it soon!)
My Studio
My Traits: Socially Awkward / Artistic / Family Oriented / Hopelessly Romantic / Absent Minded
Academic Trait: Adventurous
Social Group Trait (Should I ever become "Nerd" enough): Computer Whiz ______
“Instead of putting players in the role of Luke Skywalker, or Frodo Baggins, I'd rather put them in the role of George Lucas.” Will Wright
"Anything that can go wrong will go wrong." Cpt. Edward A. Murphy Jr, USAF
My Studio
My Traits: Socially Awkward / Artistic / Family Oriented / Hopelessly Romantic / Absent Minded
Academic Trait: Adventurous
Social Group Trait (Should I ever become "Nerd" enough): Computer Whiz ______
“Instead of putting players in the role of Luke Skywalker, or Frodo Baggins, I'd rather put them in the role of George Lucas.” Will Wright
"Anything that can go wrong will go wrong." Cpt. Edward A. Murphy Jr, USAF
Welcome to the club, @Lexars615 . Glad you joined us!
a.k.a. Samantha (though Sam is just fine, too. Also, Simmantha, according to my husband.)
Thanks to a lot of amazing sim friends I have owned the store for a while now. If you'd like to help out a really good friend of mine who just started playing the game, here is his wishlist. Thanks!
Here are the current and upcoming deals for the next 24 hours. There is a lot of red and yellow on the spreadsheet today which is good for two things. 1) collecting and saving up sim points, and 2) searching through to see if any of the deals are "good enough" based on your CYS on a set. In this case you might take a look at deal 131, Le Cirque Esprit. At 72% off it is not bad - only 33 sp more than its best price at number 717, which won't come up until March 27th. We have three green deals in this section of the rotation, starting with the Steampunk Refrigerator, then the Forever Living Plant, and finally the Storybook Bathroom Set (wish I could have a whole new bathroom for 78sp - my RL one cost $5000). There are also two white deals - the Romantique Double Bed and Athena's Olive Tree. Happy Shopping!
Current Deal:
126 ) Steampunk Kitchen- Artic Keen Cog and Sprocket Refridgerator / 37 / 81 / 54% / 2 hours Part of: Steampunk Kitchen; New Year, New Kitchen!; January 2012 Compilation Repeat Deal: This is the least expensive price for this item (Less than # 864)
Upcoming Deals:
If you want this set, it is worth waiting for deal # 295 which is 325 sp compared to the three other times the set is offered for 715 sp, 728 sp and 780 sp
127 ) Wretched Threads / 728 / 1300 / 44% / 2 hours Part of: Front Row Center Bedroom + Wretched Threads Repeat Deal: This is a medium price for this item (More than # 295, # 432 but less than # 743)
128 ) Safari Living Set / 273 / 548 / 50% / 2 hours Part of: Adventurous Life!; World Inspiration Compilation
Safari Living Set and Adventurous Life! are not available for CYS discount BUTWorld
Inspiration Compilation is. Repeat Deal: This is a medium price for this item (This deal is 52 sp more than # 313 but 98 sp less than # 825)
129 ) Forever Living Plant / 8 / 25 / 68% / 2 hours Part of: Mid-Century Fantasy; May 2011 Compilation; Blast From the Past Compilation Repeat Deal: This is the least expensive price for this item (Less than # 49)
130 ) Laganaphyllis Simnovorii (aka The Cow Plant) / 324 / 706 / 54% / 2 hours Part of: Killer Classics; January 2012 Compilation Repeat Deal: This is the most expensive price for this item (More than # 334, # 734)
131 ) Le Cirque Esprit / 512 / 1797 / 72% / 2 hours Part of: Le Cirque Celebration! Repeat Deal: This is a medium price for this item (More than # 717 but less than # 324, # 57, # 624, # 538)
132 ) Adventurous Life! / 1160 / 2000 / 42% / 2 hours Part of: World Inspiration Compilation Includes: Safari Living Set; Africa Inspiration Collection Repeat Deal: This is the most expensive price for this item (More than # 585, # 3, # 570)
133 ) More Magic! / 968 / 1782 / 46% / 2 hours Part of: January 2012 Compilation; parts of More Magic! are included in Enchanted Bundle of Dark Dealings Includes: The Soothsayers Crystal Ball Set Repeat Deal: This is a medium price for this item (More than # 748 but less than # 672, # 143)
134 ) Romantique Double Bed / 42 / 54 / 22% / 2 hours Part of: Storybook Bedroom Set; Full Storybook Set; Make a Wish Compilation This is the only time the item is offered on the DD
135 ) Storybook Bathroom Set / 78 / 228 / 66% / 2 hours Part of: Full Storybook Set; Make a Wish Compilation Repeat Deal: This is the least expensive price for this item (Less than # 225, # 81, # 646)
136 ) Athena's Olive Tree / 19 / 58 / 67% / 2 hours Part of: Muse Luxury Set; Quaint Cottage Collection This is the only time the item is offered on the DD
137 ) Glitter and Glam Bedroom / 264 / 401 / 34% / 2 hours Part of: Glitter and Glam + Diva and Divo Repeat Deal: This is a medium price for this item (More than # 428 but less than # 254)
This is a 3 hour deal
138 ) Lullabies and Nursery Rhymes / 1140 / 1987 / 43% / 3 hours Part of: January 2013 Compilation; 2 items included in Sandy Shoals Sea Shanty Repeat Deal: This is the most expensive price for this item (More than # 418, # 357)
a.k.a. Samantha (though Sam is just fine, too. Also, Simmantha, according to my husband.)
Thanks to a lot of amazing sim friends I have owned the store for a while now. If you'd like to help out a really good friend of mine who just started playing the game, here is his wishlist. Thanks!
LOL!! @Lexers615 That made me laugh so hard, almost spit out my coffee!! I did wake up!!! My body clock actually woke me up an hour before my alarm!! I got the Prism Art Studio!!!!!!!! Yeah!!! I'm guessing you did too?
Hope everyone else did too!! @fabeme????? *fingers crossed*
I am not sure to understand. My math were to find the "normal" CYS and then use the answer with the calculator. I thought that using the amount given with the sale and finding it's original price (by removing the % of the sale) I would get the original CYS. You are saying that it doesn't work like that ? This is so complicated xD
Also thank you @calents for the gift this is very nice from you. It happens to forget things
The problem is that the "Percentage of set owned" is calculated differently than the "CYS price." I can't remember how exactly percentage of set owned is calculated, unfortunately, I just know it isn't directly related to CYS.
Yeah, I think as far as we can make out the "percentage owned" just sort of relates to the number of items in the set but the important thing in working out the discount and CYS price is the value of the items. So you could own just one expensive item (so a low percentage) and have a very low CYS price or you could own nearly everything but they are all cheap items so you get a high percentage but still have a high CYS price.
As @calents suggests, I would totally ignore the percentage and just look at the number of Simpoints it wants.
Oh, and congrats on getting the Prism Studio, and also to @Bird166 and especially @Lexers615
I officially dislike my job... I missed the Prism Art Studio thanks to staying at work overtime (unpaid)
And I've been waiting for it, considering the amazing deal they had on it.
My Studio
My Traits: Socially Awkward / Artistic / Family Oriented / Hopelessly Romantic / Absent Minded
Academic Trait: Adventurous
Social Group Trait (Should I ever become "Nerd" enough): Computer Whiz ______
“Instead of putting players in the role of Luke Skywalker, or Frodo Baggins, I'd rather put them in the role of George Lucas.” Will Wright
"Anything that can go wrong will go wrong." Cpt. Edward A. Murphy Jr, USAF
Got it! I can now claim to own the store! (With the exception that I own every elements of the Seeing Star collection though don't own the collection... Hoping they add CYS discount on it soon!)
Congratulations @Lexer615 on becoming a member of the I Own the Store Club. You do own the store if you have every item in a set even though the store database does not show the set as being owned.
I have updated my signature by removing the link to the Fix the Exchange thread. It appears to be fixed. Now, I hope EA fixes the problem with in-game gifting and Simport not working because our games are not being recognized as being registered.
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No, you are correct, it should just be the regular price, the DD spreadsheet is just an easy place to get it. I think the issue may be calculating your percentage owned. More on that below.
This is the underlying problem. Although you are mathematically sound here, the underlying issue is that CYS does NOT work like normal percentages. The percentage of set owned number doesn't actually factor into the math at all, so the above 78% doesn't factor into the calculation. There's a lot of fuzzy math involved. Each item you purchase gives you 90% of its sp cost off the total set, but the first item from a set you buy gives you a "bonus" percentage off (that's why we say always get at least a 25 sp item from a set before going for the full set). It looks kind of like this under the hood:
The basic rule for working out the CYS price is (Set Price*.9)-(Item Cost*.9) rounded up to the nearest 5sp.
So, for example, if a set normally costs 1000sp and the price of all the items in it that you have bought individually is 300sp then your CYS price would be about 630sp (900 - 270). There's a good post by @MiaSkywalker about this at: http://simsdailydeals.proboards.com/thread/18/daily-deal-stalker-important-information
Unfortunately, your CYS price is also affected when an item goes on sale, and you can't see your "normal" CYS price needed to use the calculator effectively. This is the part I forgot in my initial post and what is missing in the math. Sorry about that, it's been awhile since I've calculated CYS.
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Thank you so much for the outfit too. I can get 5th avenue for 15sps now yayyyy xx
I am not sure to understand. My math were to find the "normal" CYS and then use the answer with the calculator. I thought that using the amount given with the sale and finding it's original price (by removing the % of the sale) I would get the original CYS. You are saying that it doesn't work like that ? This is so complicated xD
Also thank you @calents for the gift this is very nice from you. It happens to forget things
Me too! And it's the last item before I own the store!
My Traits: Socially Awkward / Artistic / Family Oriented / Hopelessly Romantic / Absent Minded
Academic Trait: Adventurous
Social Group Trait (Should I ever become "Nerd" enough): Computer Whiz
______
“Instead of putting players in the role of Luke Skywalker, or Frodo Baggins, I'd rather put them in the role of George Lucas.” Will Wright
"Anything that can go wrong will go wrong." Cpt. Edward A. Murphy Jr, USAF
Yayyy well done on almost owning the store, I bet you are very excited
The problem is that the "Percentage of set owned" is calculated differently than the "CYS price." I can't remember how exactly percentage of set owned is calculated, unfortunately, I just know it isn't directly related to CYS.
Anyways, you are all welcome for the gifts! I hope they help!
Thanks for the gifties @Franny and @ZombieMew! I la la LOVE them!
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My Traits: Socially Awkward / Artistic / Family Oriented / Hopelessly Romantic / Absent Minded
Academic Trait: Adventurous
Social Group Trait (Should I ever become "Nerd" enough): Computer Whiz
______
“Instead of putting players in the role of Luke Skywalker, or Frodo Baggins, I'd rather put them in the role of George Lucas.” Will Wright
"Anything that can go wrong will go wrong." Cpt. Edward A. Murphy Jr, USAF
My Traits: Socially Awkward / Artistic / Family Oriented / Hopelessly Romantic / Absent Minded
Academic Trait: Adventurous
Social Group Trait (Should I ever become "Nerd" enough): Computer Whiz
______
“Instead of putting players in the role of Luke Skywalker, or Frodo Baggins, I'd rather put them in the role of George Lucas.” Will Wright
"Anything that can go wrong will go wrong." Cpt. Edward A. Murphy Jr, USAF
Thanks to a lot of amazing sim friends I have owned the store for a while now. If you'd like to help out a really good friend of mine who just started playing the game, here is his wishlist. Thanks!
Current Deal:
126 ) Steampunk Kitchen- Artic Keen Cog and Sprocket Refridgerator / 37 / 81 / 54% / 2 hours
Part of: Steampunk Kitchen; New Year, New Kitchen!; January 2012 Compilation
Repeat Deal: This is the least expensive price for this item (Less than # 864)
Upcoming Deals:
If you want this set, it is worth waiting for deal # 295 which is 325 sp compared to the three other times the set is offered for 715 sp, 728 sp and 780 sp
127 ) Wretched Threads / 728 / 1300 / 44% / 2 hours
Part of: Front Row Center Bedroom + Wretched Threads
Repeat Deal: This is a medium price for this item (More than # 295, # 432 but less than # 743)
128 ) Safari Living Set / 273 / 548 / 50% / 2 hours
Part of: Adventurous Life!; World Inspiration Compilation
Safari Living Set and Adventurous Life! are not available for CYS discount BUT World
Inspiration Compilation is.
Repeat Deal: This is a medium price for this item (This deal is 52 sp more than # 313 but 98 sp less than # 825)
129 ) Forever Living Plant / 8 / 25 / 68% / 2 hours
Part of: Mid-Century Fantasy; May 2011 Compilation; Blast From the Past Compilation
Repeat Deal: This is the least expensive price for this item (Less than # 49)
130 ) Laganaphyllis Simnovorii (aka The Cow Plant) / 324 / 706 / 54% / 2 hours
Part of: Killer Classics; January 2012 Compilation
Repeat Deal: This is the most expensive price for this item (More than # 334, # 734)
131 ) Le Cirque Esprit / 512 / 1797 / 72% / 2 hours
Part of: Le Cirque Celebration!
Repeat Deal: This is a medium price for this item (More than # 717 but less than # 324, # 57, # 624, # 538)
132 ) Adventurous Life! / 1160 / 2000 / 42% / 2 hours
Part of: World Inspiration Compilation
Includes: Safari Living Set; Africa Inspiration Collection
Repeat Deal: This is the most expensive price for this item (More than # 585, # 3, # 570)
133 ) More Magic! / 968 / 1782 / 46% / 2 hours
Part of: January 2012 Compilation; parts of More Magic! are included in Enchanted Bundle of Dark Dealings
Includes: The Soothsayers Crystal Ball Set
Repeat Deal: This is a medium price for this item (More than # 748 but less than # 672, # 143)
134 ) Romantique Double Bed / 42 / 54 / 22% / 2 hours
Part of: Storybook Bedroom Set; Full Storybook Set; Make a Wish Compilation
This is the only time the item is offered on the DD
135 ) Storybook Bathroom Set / 78 / 228 / 66% / 2 hours
Part of: Full Storybook Set; Make a Wish Compilation
Repeat Deal: This is the least expensive price for this item (Less than # 225, # 81, # 646)
136 ) Athena's Olive Tree / 19 / 58 / 67% / 2 hours
Part of: Muse Luxury Set; Quaint Cottage Collection
This is the only time the item is offered on the DD
137 ) Glitter and Glam Bedroom / 264 / 401 / 34% / 2 hours
Part of: Glitter and Glam + Diva and Divo
Repeat Deal: This is a medium price for this item (More than # 428 but less than # 254)
This is a 3 hour deal
138 ) Lullabies and Nursery Rhymes / 1140 / 1987 / 43% / 3 hours
Part of: January 2013 Compilation; 2 items included in Sandy Shoals Sea Shanty
Repeat Deal: This is the most expensive price for this item (More than # 418, # 357)
Thanks to a lot of amazing sim friends I have owned the store for a while now. If you'd like to help out a really good friend of mine who just started playing the game, here is his wishlist. Thanks!
LOL!! @Lexers615 That made me laugh so hard, almost spit out my coffee!! I did wake up!!! My body clock actually woke me up an hour before my alarm!! I got the Prism Art Studio!!!!!!!! Yeah!!! I'm guessing you did too?
Hope everyone else did too!! @fabeme????? *fingers crossed*
Me too! Now I have hardly any SP's so I hope I can find some ads today!
Glad you got it too!
Yess same for me lol !
As @calents suggests, I would totally ignore the percentage and just look at the number of Simpoints it wants.
Oh, and congrats on getting the Prism Studio, and also to @Bird166 and especially @Lexers615
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And I've been waiting for it, considering the amazing deal they had on it.
Oh my goodness... she gifted it
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Academic Trait: Adventurous
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“Instead of putting players in the role of Luke Skywalker, or Frodo Baggins, I'd rather put them in the role of George Lucas.” Will Wright
"Anything that can go wrong will go wrong." Cpt. Edward A. Murphy Jr, USAF
Congratulations to all of you who are getting great deals.
Congratulations @Lexer615 on becoming a member of the I Own the Store Club. You do own the store if you have every item in a set even though the store database does not show the set as being owned.
I have updated my signature by removing the link to the Fix the Exchange thread. It appears to be fixed. Now, I hope EA fixes the problem with in-game gifting and Simport not working because our games are not being recognized as being registered.
To help you organize your stalking of the Daily Deal, please join us on the Daily Deal Rotation and Sales Help thread and please view the DD Spreadsheet