Hey Simmers, I’ve just been catching up on the thread. A big thank you for all who have shared their feedback on the pack. Please continue to do so, there are some great posts to be found with excellent critiques. Just a reminder, let’s look to keep posts constructive when relaying feedback whether that be negative or positive. Share your thoughts on the SP. What would you have liked to have seen in the SP? How you would have liked it to go? What are your critiques, thoughts and feelings on the content? Please let us know.
I do want to also acknowledge this too. There have been a lot of pointed comments targeting Guru's multiple times throughout this thread and it really isn't ok. I can see from the posts in here that many are feeling disappointed and it’s ok to share that here. Please note however, that once the discussion becomes focused on people rather than content it's no longer an appropriate discussion to have as per the rules in place. If the rules continue to be broken, the thread will be closed, and users moderated for how they've conducted themselves and the conversation. We encourage your feedback, but we do not support the targeting of others; members and staff alike. So, with that please do aim to keep critiques to the content.
I have merged some threads with this one. The same points were being discussed so to limit duplicate threads they've been merged.
New Simmers, take a moment to read through this thread.
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I have to admit I am completely baffled by the intensity of the outrage.
EA hasn't ripped anyone off, because they can't reach in and take money away from people. It's all choice. How is that being ripped off ? How can you be "abused" by an offer of something that you have 100% choice over?
Person has X. Person is feeling fine.
Company: "Do you want Y too?"
Person: "You're ripping us off! You're abusing us!" Person is feeling sad/mad.
Nothing has actually changed. Person still has X. Person hasn't lost anything. Actually, Person now has options.
I can understand if the option makes it seem that you're NOT going to get something you were hoping for. Like, you want really wanted in-depth Plantsims and instead they release the temporary Plantsims during the challenge month. But that's not exactly the case here. More pet clothes and a hamster doesn't prevent future pets. In fact, somebody in one of these threads said they didn't expect any further pets, and they had adjusted to the idea we were just getting Cats and Dogs. Now that there's another pet, they are upset.
I don't mean to put people down who feel this way. I honestly don't get it.
I see it more like this:
That's EXACTLY how it is! (Though to be honest I feel C&D is even less than that...)
Well I'm glad that they put something out for this month, kinda of like what we had for the sims 3 store. I hope they continue putting out stuff every month now. I was tried of all the dry months.
You're going to be right back in your position a day after owning the pack.
It's a fundamental problem with the new business model introduced with The Sims 4. It will continue happening to you over and over.
Good. I like it. The more stuff - the better I like it. To each their own.
"Games Are Not The Place To Tell Stories, Games Are Meant To Let People Tell Their Own Stories"...Will Wright.
In dreams - I LIVE!
In REALITY, I simply exist.....
Hey Simmers, I’ve just been catching up on the thread. A big thank you for all who have shared their feedback on the pack. Please continue to do so, there are some great posts to be found with excellent critiques. Just a reminder, let’s look to keep posts constructive when relaying feedback whether that be negative or positive. Share your thoughts on the SP. What would you have liked to have seen in the SP? How you would have liked it to go? What are your critiques, thoughts and feelings on the content? Please let us know.
I do want to also acknowledge this too. There have been a lot of pointed comments targeting Guru's multiple times throughout this thread and it really isn't ok. I can see from the posts in here that many are feeling disappointed and it’s ok to share that here. Please note however, that once the discussion becomes focused on people rather than content it's no longer an appropriate discussion to have as per the rules in place. If the rules continue to be broken, the thread will be closed, and users moderated for how they've conducted themselves and the conversation. We encourage your feedback, but we do not support the targeting of others; members and staff alike. So, with that please do aim to keep critiques to the content.
I have merged some threads with this one. The same points were being discussed so to limit duplicate threads they've been merged.
If you're really taking critique:
- postpone the product to design extra pets themed items in order to replace the items that you're taking out
- all cats and dogs related things - remove that from the stuff pack right now and release it as a free patch. All you did was make your customers feel like they've bought an incomplete product. Specifically when some furniture fits into specific item collections, making it very obvious that it was developed alongside and for cats and dogs.
Otherwise, I'm sorry, but how expressing critique will do any good to anything? By the time this pack is out and passed, reputation is already damaged regardless of what you do with other packs. Trust has been ruined. Next expansion, the first thought to cross peoples minds will be "am I buying an incomplete product?"
If this had been a Game pack, with a plethora of small pets (birds, reptiles, ferrets, hamsters, guinea pigs, etc etc etc) that had fun interactions beyond view/feed/pet I would have been super on board.
But... This is an abomination. Not the content itself per se. Some of it looks nice and I would greatly enjoy more types of pets. Its the blatant money grab aspect and its rather insulting.
I hope the disgust from the community keeps up in regards to this pack and they start rethinking on how they release content. Long shot, but I can still hope.
Hey Simmers, I’ve just been catching up on the thread. A big thank you for all who have shared their feedback on the pack. Please continue to do so, there are some great posts to be found with excellent critiques. Just a reminder, let’s look to keep posts constructive when relaying feedback whether that be negative or positive. Share your thoughts on the SP. What would you have liked to have seen in the SP? How you would have liked it to go? What are your critiques, thoughts and feelings on the content? Please let us know.
I do want to also acknowledge this too. There have been a lot of pointed comments targeting Guru's multiple times throughout this thread and it really isn't ok. I can see from the posts in here that many are feeling disappointed and it’s ok to share that here. Please note however, that once the discussion becomes focused on people rather than content it's no longer an appropriate discussion to have as per the rules in place. If the rules continue to be broken, the thread will be closed, and users moderated for how they've conducted themselves and the conversation. We encourage your feedback, but we do not support the targeting of others; members and staff alike. So, with that please do aim to keep critiques to the content.
I have merged some threads with this one. The same points were being discussed so to limit duplicate threads they've been merged.
If you're really taking critique:
- postpone the product to design extra pets themed items
- all cats and dogs related things - remove that from the stuff pack right now and release it as a free patch. All you did was make your customers feel like they've bought an incomplete product. Specifically when some furniture fits into specific item collections, making it very obvious that it was developed alongside and for cats and dogs.
Otherwise, I'm sorry, but how expressing critique will do any good to anything? By the time this pack is out and passed, reputation is already damaged regardless of what you do with other packs. Trust has been ruined. Next expansion, the first thought to cross peoples minds will be "am I buying an incomplete product?"
I don't feel this way about the GPs (yet...), but yes indeed, I'll analyze the next EP much more carefully than I ever have before... if they cut seasons into parts like this, I'm done with this franchise .. And I don't want that
Hey Simmers, I’ve just been catching up on the thread. A big thank you for all who have shared their feedback on the pack. Please continue to do so, there are some great posts to be found with excellent critiques. Just a reminder, let’s look to keep posts constructive when relaying feedback whether that be negative or positive. Share your thoughts on the SP. What would you have liked to have seen in the SP? How you would have liked it to go? What are your critiques, thoughts and feelings on the content? Please let us know.
I do want to also acknowledge this too. There have been a lot of pointed comments targeting Guru's multiple times throughout this thread and it really isn't ok. I can see from the posts in here that many are feeling disappointed and it’s ok to share that here. Please note however, that once the discussion becomes focused on people rather than content it's no longer an appropriate discussion to have as per the rules in place. If the rules continue to be broken, the thread will be closed, and users moderated for how they've conducted themselves and the conversation. We encourage your feedback, but we do not support the targeting of others; members and staff alike. So, with that please do aim to keep critiques to the content.
I have merged some threads with this one. The same points were being discussed so to limit duplicate threads they've been merged.
If you're really taking critique:
- postpone the product to design extra pets themed items
- all cats and dogs related things - remove that from the stuff pack right now and release it as a free patch. All you did was make your customers feel like they've bought an incomplete product. Specifically when some furniture fits into specific item collections, making it very obvious that it was developed alongside and for cats and dogs.
Otherwise, I'm sorry, but how expressing critique will do any good to anything? By the time this pack is out and passed, reputation is already damaged regardless of what you do with other packs. Trust has been ruined. Next expansion, the first thought to cross peoples minds will be "am I buying an incomplete product?"
I don't feel this way about the GPs (yet...), but yes indeed, I'll analyze the next EP much more carefully than I ever have before... if they cut seasons into parts like this, I'm done with this franchise .. And I don't want that
I've been doing it since City Living to be honest, I still find it to be one of the worst EPs made and I'm skeptical ever since
I keep coming on this board periodically today waiting to hear an announcement that the Pets Stuff Pack will now be a free download due to all the backlash.
I keep coming on this board periodically today waiting to hear an announcement that the Pets Stuff Pack will now be a free download due to all the backlash.
Clearly, that's a no on that. haha
It won't be. You'll have to purchase it but we're getting an Update Tomorrow most likely and chances are it will add something to the base game.
I have to admit I am completely baffled by the intensity of the outrage.
EA hasn't ripped anyone off, because they can't reach in and take money away from people. It's all choice. How is that being ripped off ? How can you be "abused" by an offer of something that you have 100% choice over?
Person has X. Person is feeling fine.
Company: "Do you want Y too?"
Person: "You're ripping us off! You're abusing us!" Person is feeling sad/mad.
Nothing has actually changed. Person still has X. Person hasn't lost anything. Actually, Person now has options.
I can understand if the option makes it seem that you're NOT going to get something you were hoping for. Like, you want really wanted in-depth Plantsims and instead they release the temporary Plantsims during the challenge month. But that's not exactly the case here. More pet clothes and a hamster doesn't prevent future pets. In fact, somebody in one of these threads said they didn't expect any further pets, and they had adjusted to the idea we were just getting Cats and Dogs. Now that there's another pet, they are upset.
I don't mean to put people down who feel this way. I honestly don't get it.
I see it more like this:
This reminds me of something my husband said happened every year for his birthday. Hubby's b-day is on 12/20. I'm sure many simmers who have birthdays around Christmas will understand this. It seemed to him (his perception, of course) that his mom usually forgot to get him a "birthday" present. So, she'd take an already wrapped Christmas present (in Christmas wrapping paper) and give that to him instead. So, technically, he got one less b-day present (or more) every year because everyone forgot it was his birthday. Eventually, he just let it go, but he always felt 🐸🐸🐸🐸 when that happened. Poor guy. Now, I go out of my way to separate his birthday from Christmas. It's not fun to feel underappreciated.
Well I'm glad that they put something out for this month, kinda of like what we had for the sims 3 store. I hope they continue putting out stuff every month now. I was tried of all the dry months.
You're going to be right back in your position a day after owning the pack.
It's a fundamental problem with the new business model introduced with The Sims 4. It will continue happening to you over and over.
Good. I like it. The more stuff - the better I like it. To each their own.
I agree. I love having all kinds of items for my sims because it helps tell stories.
I have to admit I am completely baffled by the intensity of the outrage.
EA hasn't ripped anyone off, because they can't reach in and take money away from people. It's all choice. How is that being ripped off ? How can you be "abused" by an offer of something that you have 100% choice over?
Person has X. Person is feeling fine.
Company: "Do you want Y too?"
Person: "You're ripping us off! You're abusing us!" Person is feeling sad/mad.
Nothing has actually changed. Person still has X. Person hasn't lost anything. Actually, Person now has options.
I can understand if the option makes it seem that you're NOT going to get something you were hoping for. Like, you want really wanted in-depth Plantsims and instead they release the temporary Plantsims during the challenge month. But that's not exactly the case here. More pet clothes and a hamster doesn't prevent future pets. In fact, somebody in one of these threads said they didn't expect any further pets, and they had adjusted to the idea we were just getting Cats and Dogs. Now that there's another pet, they are upset.
I don't mean to put people down who feel this way. I honestly don't get it.
I see it more like this:
This reminds me of something my husband said happened every year for his birthday. Hubby's b-day is on 12/20. I'm sure many simmers who have birthdays around Christmas will understand this. It seemed to him (his perception, of course) that his mom usually forgot to get him a "birthday" present. So, she'd take an already wrapped Christmas present (in Christmas wrapping paper) and give that to him instead. So, technically, he got one less b-day present (or more) every year because everyone forgot it was his birthday. Eventually, he just let it go, but he always felt plum when that happened. Poor guy. Now, I go out of my way to separate his birthday from Christmas. It's not fun to feel underappreciated.
I have to admit I am completely baffled by the intensity of the outrage.
EA hasn't ripped anyone off, because they can't reach in and take money away from people. It's all choice. How is that being ripped off ? How can you be "abused" by an offer of something that you have 100% choice over?
Person has X. Person is feeling fine.
Company: "Do you want Y too?"
Person: "You're ripping us off! You're abusing us!" Person is feeling sad/mad.
Nothing has actually changed. Person still has X. Person hasn't lost anything. Actually, Person now has options.
I can understand if the option makes it seem that you're NOT going to get something you were hoping for. Like, you want really wanted in-depth Plantsims and instead they release the temporary Plantsims during the challenge month. But that's not exactly the case here. More pet clothes and a hamster doesn't prevent future pets. In fact, somebody in one of these threads said they didn't expect any further pets, and they had adjusted to the idea we were just getting Cats and Dogs. Now that there's another pet, they are upset.
I don't mean to put people down who feel this way. I honestly don't get it.
I see it more like this:
This reminds me of something my husband said happened every year for his birthday. Hubby's b-day is on 12/20. I'm sure many simmers who have birthdays around Christmas will understand this. It seemed to him (his perception, of course) that his mom usually forgot to get him a "birthday" present. So, she'd take an already wrapped Christmas present (in Christmas wrapping paper) and give that to him instead. So, technically, he got one less b-day present (or more) every year because everyone forgot it was his birthday. Eventually, he just let it go, but he always felt plum when that happened. Poor guy. Now, I go out of my way to separate his birthday from Christmas. It's not fun to feel underappreciated.
Ok, I've gotta admit, I think all the furniture and decorations for this stuff pack are super cute. I don't have the Cats and Dogs pack, and I don't plan on purchasing this one. I'm super cheap and my computer cannot handle too many packs (someday...someday...I'll get around to getting laundry stuff. I really want that one, I just putter around whenever I wanna buy something )
However, I find the clothes for the pets a little bit silly. I know if I had C&D I don't think I'd use them. I dunno man, this pack's announcement and stuff...it just feels 'off'.
(I think the kids activity table from this pack is super cute. I would've loved having that object in real life as a child! )
Hey Simmers, I’ve just been catching up on the thread. A big thank you for all who have shared their feedback on the pack. Please continue to do so, there are some great posts to be found with excellent critiques. Just a reminder, let’s look to keep posts constructive when relaying feedback whether that be negative or positive. Share your thoughts on the SP. What would you have liked to have seen in the SP? How you would have liked it to go? What are your critiques, thoughts and feelings on the content? Please let us know.
I do want to also acknowledge this too. There have been a lot of pointed comments targeting Guru's multiple times throughout this thread and it really isn't ok. I can see from the posts in here that many are feeling disappointed and it’s ok to share that here. Please note however, that once the discussion becomes focused on people rather than content it's no longer an appropriate discussion to have as per the rules in place. If the rules continue to be broken, the thread will be closed, and users moderated for how they've conducted themselves and the conversation. We encourage your feedback, but we do not support the targeting of others; members and staff alike. So, with that please do aim to keep critiques to the content.
I have merged some threads with this one. The same points were being discussed so to limit duplicate threads they've been merged.
I can't wait for the pack to come out! Any new content is welcomed by me. Most looking forward to the coffee table, it looks beautiful, and the new game death sounds hilarious. The only thing I would have liked to have seen maybe added with this pack is a turtle and frog. I had both of those as pets as a child, would be cool if my Sims could also.
Hey Simmers, I’ve just been catching up on the thread. A big thank you for all who have shared their feedback on the pack. Please continue to do so, there are some great posts to be found with excellent critiques. Just a reminder, let’s look to keep posts constructive when relaying feedback whether that be negative or positive. Share your thoughts on the SP. What would you have liked to have seen in the SP? How you would have liked it to go? What are your critiques, thoughts and feelings on the content? Please let us know.
I do want to also acknowledge this too. There have been a lot of pointed comments targeting Guru's multiple times throughout this thread and it really isn't ok. I can see from the posts in here that many are feeling disappointed and it’s ok to share that here. Please note however, that once the discussion becomes focused on people rather than content it's no longer an appropriate discussion to have as per the rules in place. If the rules continue to be broken, the thread will be closed, and users moderated for how they've conducted themselves and the conversation. We encourage your feedback, but we do not support the targeting of others; members and staff alike. So, with that please do aim to keep critiques to the content.
I have merged some threads with this one. The same points were being discussed so to limit duplicate threads they've been merged.
I can't wait for the pack to come out! Any new content is welcomed by me. Most looking forward to the coffee table, it looks beautiful, and the new game death sounds hilarious. The only thing I would have liked to have seen maybe added with this pack is a turtle and frog. I had both of those as pets as a child, would be cool if my Sims could also.
Wow.. okay I've decide for sure I'll be buying the pack now. I do like some elements of it.. some others I could do without. What changed my mind at this point is all of the thinly veiled and not so thinly veiled suggestions to boycott the product and company that makes it. I enjoy this game and I'm not going to be shamed for spending my money on a product I enjoy.
Compromise indeed.
Wouldn’t be more upset if there was a small pets GP instead of just an SP though?
That's not the point. The point is it should already be in a "Pets" expansion pack and so should the recoloured and retexture build/buy items shown in that SP too.
My prediction, based on zero psychic talent:
They will reveal something about this pack that will make many people say, "Oh, well then! Should have told us about that awesome thing."
> @applefeather2 said: > My prediction, based on zero psychic talent: > They will reveal something about this pack that will make many people say, "Oh, well then! Should have told us about that awesome thing."
and probably that awesome thing was created these past two days haha
My prediction, based on zero psychic talent:
They will reveal something about this pack that will make many people say, "Oh, well then! Should have told us about that awesome thing."
That might be the new illness that can kill Sims, infect other Sims, etc. Graham talked about it in a couple posts already. Deviant players should look into it.
Wow.. okay I've decide for sure I'll be buying the pack now. I do like some elements of it.. some others I could do without. What changed my mind at this point is all of the thinly veiled and not so thinly veiled suggestions to boycott the product and company that makes it. I enjoy this game and I'm not going to be shamed for spending my money on a product I enjoy.
Compromise indeed.
How is criticizing something shaming? The reason people are upset about this isn't because they hate the game. You can enjoy a game and still be critical of it. In fact, I'd go as far as to say that if people didn't love this game, they simply wouldn't care enough to voice their opinion.
Maybe I missed some posts because this thread has been merged a few times but I don't think anybody wants to stop someone else from buying the pack if they actually want to get it. People should be able to do what they want to do - buy it, don't buy it, praise it, critique it, or don't say anything if they don't want to.
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I'm sorry, but how expressing critique will do any good to anything?
Apologies for the delay in response, I had some things crop up, but I've found a window, so I'll aim to be short and sweet with this: Constructive criticism, critiques and feedback 100% do help. It's how anybody learns and improves. Without it it's like walking in the dark. I would always encourage you to share your thoughts and feelings– in a constructive manner - as a result. It can make all the difference.
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I do want to also acknowledge this too. There have been a lot of pointed comments targeting Guru's multiple times throughout this thread and it really isn't ok. I can see from the posts in here that many are feeling disappointed and it’s ok to share that here. Please note however, that once the discussion becomes focused on people rather than content it's no longer an appropriate discussion to have as per the rules in place. If the rules continue to be broken, the thread will be closed, and users moderated for how they've conducted themselves and the conversation. We encourage your feedback, but we do not support the targeting of others; members and staff alike. So, with that please do aim to keep critiques to the content.
I have merged some threads with this one. The same points were being discussed so to limit duplicate threads they've been merged.
Good. I like it. The more stuff - the better I like it. To each their own.
"Games Are Not The Place To Tell Stories, Games Are Meant To Let People Tell Their Own Stories"...Will Wright.
In dreams - I LIVE!
In REALITY, I simply exist.....
If you're really taking critique:
- postpone the product to design extra pets themed items in order to replace the items that you're taking out
- all cats and dogs related things - remove that from the stuff pack right now and release it as a free patch. All you did was make your customers feel like they've bought an incomplete product. Specifically when some furniture fits into specific item collections, making it very obvious that it was developed alongside and for cats and dogs.
Otherwise, I'm sorry, but how expressing critique will do any good to anything? By the time this pack is out and passed, reputation is already damaged regardless of what you do with other packs. Trust has been ruined. Next expansion, the first thought to cross peoples minds will be "am I buying an incomplete product?"
But... This is an abomination. Not the content itself per se. Some of it looks nice and I would greatly enjoy more types of pets. Its the blatant money grab aspect and its rather insulting.
I hope the disgust from the community keeps up in regards to this pack and they start rethinking on how they release content. Long shot, but I can still hope.
I don't feel this way about the GPs (yet...), but yes indeed, I'll analyze the next EP much more carefully than I ever have before... if they cut seasons into parts like this, I'm done with this franchise .. And I don't want that
Clearly, that's a no on that. haha
It won't be. You'll have to purchase it but we're getting an Update Tomorrow most likely and chances are it will add something to the base game.
This reminds me of something my husband said happened every year for his birthday. Hubby's b-day is on 12/20. I'm sure many simmers who have birthdays around Christmas will understand this. It seemed to him (his perception, of course) that his mom usually forgot to get him a "birthday" present. So, she'd take an already wrapped Christmas present (in Christmas wrapping paper) and give that to him instead. So, technically, he got one less b-day present (or more) every year because everyone forgot it was his birthday.
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I agree. I love having all kinds of items for my sims because it helps tell stories.
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Aw that’s sweet.
I'd want the same.
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However, I find the clothes for the pets a little bit silly. I know if I had C&D I don't think I'd use them. I dunno man, this pack's announcement and stuff...it just feels 'off'.
(I think the kids activity table from this pack is super cute. I would've loved having that object in real life as a child!
I can't wait for the pack to come out! Any new content is welcomed by me. Most looking forward to the coffee table, it looks beautiful, and the new game death sounds hilarious. The only thing I would have liked to have seen maybe added with this pack is a turtle and frog. I had both of those as pets as a child, would be cool if my Sims could also.
A turtle would be awesome!
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Anyone have any thoughts?
Compromise indeed.
That's not the point. The point is it should already be in a "Pets" expansion pack and so should the recoloured and retexture build/buy items shown in that SP too.
They will reveal something about this pack that will make many people say, "Oh, well then! Should have told us about that awesome thing."
> My prediction, based on zero psychic talent:
> They will reveal something about this pack that will make many people say, "Oh, well then! Should have told us about that awesome thing."
and probably that awesome thing was created these past two days haha
That might be the new illness that can kill Sims, infect other Sims, etc. Graham talked about it in a couple posts already. Deviant players should look into it.
How is criticizing something shaming? The reason people are upset about this isn't because they hate the game. You can enjoy a game and still be critical of it. In fact, I'd go as far as to say that if people didn't love this game, they simply wouldn't care enough to voice their opinion.
Maybe I missed some posts because this thread has been merged a few times but I don't think anybody wants to stop someone else from buying the pack if they actually want to get it. People should be able to do what they want to do - buy it, don't buy it, praise it, critique it, or don't say anything if they don't want to.