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They don't have to release a Generations style pack to release toddlers in a patch though. That's a potential scenario that is often mentionned on the forum but it's far from being the only one possible.
And I doubt the announcement of a Generations EP without any mention of whether toddlers would be included or not would calm people's fear actually, I think it would be quite the opposite !
@Kiwicantdie probably from the interview in the article linked on the first post of the thread, it's not the exact wording, but that's pretty much what it mean.
(Shrug) At this point really, whatever. They're not going to do it and if the standard bearers here and elsewhere want to continuously defend the current course of action on a corporation's part that just leads to discourse then so be it but I'm not going to. I'm going to keep stating that they do have options when it comes to communication because they do.
It's basically been said that if they were coming they would be announced at such a point that it won't overshadow any other content.
There was a great deal of anger and disappointment over Sims 3. And no they should not just scrap it because of "issues" among those that prefer the other games. Believe it or not, the Sims community is much bigger than this forum which is dominated by former Sims 3 players. People such as myself and many others such as those found in the thread below left the forums after Sims 3 because we hated it.
http://forums.thesims.com/en_US/discussion/814780/a-trip-down-sim-memory-lane#latest
So? Just because they've said something doesn't mean that they can't change it. I mean that has happened before- right, you remember that, right? It was a few months before the base game released. And it really doesn't matter where the decision came from which is why I left it vague. I'm not putting the blame on anyone specific BUT whoever did/does make the decisions can change them- right? Are you aware of some law that prevents a company from reversing itself on a previous statement or reversing policies? I'm not. Not overshadowing content? Yeah, okay so I guess when the Sims 5 is going to release they'll just wait until that quarter to tell us, you know that way it won't overshadow any other EA games and current Sims 4 content. That's a great idea and they should stick with it because that's the policy they've set forth. Sure.
Same hype and desire for pets, seasons or anything else. What is the hype of hearing/reading never-ending about it when the forum is full of desires for pets, seasons or supernaturals or whatever. Same difference.
I don't know exactly why, but somehow, reading those interview responses made me stop in my tracks. Already bought CL but that's my last dime to EA for the sims 4. They don't respect me as a player. They don't appreciate me as a fan. They think I'm plum. They think I'll buy their games anyway because I'm so plum. Well not anymore. What MIGHT make me return is a seasons expansion without crazy restrictions on it. Maybe. So that's probably more than a year away at the very least.
Talk to me when the Sims 5 is announced. Then we'll see. I'm going to keep an eye on the news and forums but that's about it (honestly it's what I mostly do anyway because playing the game frustrates me with its limitations).
I'm torn between a headdesk and a facepalm moment.
I didn't say they couldn't reverse any policy. Somebody somewhere makes folks sign contracts to the point that they can't talk. Nobody seems to know where that starts. It could go all the way to the top of the chain for all we know. Then that's more than company policy. Yes, I'm supposing it could be changed somewhere. I'm just highly doubting it would. There's no incentive to do so.
What on earth does Sims 5 have to do with anything? I certainly didn't mention it. I don't even believe it's on the horizon and it wasn't even a passing thought in my head, or in anything I said. IMO they announced TS4 too long before release, but that's a whole other conversation.
This isn't saying toddlers will come either.
And they would have to make new a new functions for toddlers to play with children to elders and furniture.
LMAFOOOO!
No they wouldn't because before the base game was developed people didn't really care for toddlers at the time we were just happy that TS4 was out because it's just so different from TS3, but it's been two years and we're getting annoyed from the little change TS4 has gone through in two years compared to TS3.
But I am not sure anymore. The Sims 4 was announced in May 2013 and released in September 2014. But it could be bought in third party stores too and EA usually announce games later if they only can be bought as digital downloads from Origin. So maybe the Sims 5 will be announced early in 2019 and then released later in 2019. Who knows?
Anyway I still think that EA will deny toddlers for the Sims 4 at some time but then prefer to soften this message by telling us at the same time that toddlers will return in the Sims 5. The question only is if EA can wait that long to say anything?
That's a misquote -- the quote IIRC was that leaving out toddlers "was the best decision at that time", meaning that they chose to focus on other aspects of the base game first. Apparently Rachel Franklin, the source of that quote (who is no longer with The Sims) underestimated the passion of the community for toddlers. And I do think that we'll be getting them at some point.
Fun must be always -- Tomas Hertl (San Jose Sharks hockey player)
The answer to such questions would obviously have been no. So I am sure that Rachel Franklin just saw the omission of toddlers and a lesser evil than the alternatives.
Still it was a decision that the developers never got a chance to change later because EA never game them money to add toddlers later and I believe that EA still won't even though the developers probably still are attempting to find a way to add toddlers. I just don't think that this will ever happen anyway because toddlers would have been released many months ago if there was a way. Now I am quite sure that EA will prefer just to let toddlers return in TS5 instead.
Actually, I finally got all my Sims 2 discs loaded onto Windows 8 ( what a chore figuring that out) and I am loving it. I never realized how rich that game was. My sims baked Christmas cookies and Santa visited and drove my male sim nuts with his ho ho hoing all over the house then we threw a New Years eve party and all guests ended up on the corner of the block outside banging pots and pans and swirling a noise maker while Father Time did his thing and then poof, father time evaporated into the New Years Eve baby doing his little dance. How fun is that?
I also am playing Sims 3 as well. I love roaming all over the open worlds and discovering the beauty and activities that abound.
I play Sims 4 for about fifteen minutes and that is all I can take. I don't know why. I am still trying to figure out what is wrong. Can somebody help me in this department?
First: If a policy governing a division of a company goes all the way to the top of the company- then it's "more" than a company policy? Okay. I missed that in my business courses in college- thanks.
Second: Well, (cough) doesn't get sarcasm (cough), The Sims 5 has nothing to do with it I guess. It has nothing to do with anything.
Third: Have fun making your inevitable next post on this issue on this topic but this is my last post on this issue on this topic. I'm going to go take some pills. My head hurts from the wall.
1) Toddler are future content so they can't talk about it, but we'll get them sooner or later (later is more probable)
2) We'll never have any Toddler in the game but they are not gonna say it because they'll lose customers (and they'll have to face a very angry crowd )
And for the "confuse the player", Wait what ? do they think all of us are 5 years old player ?
Sometime with the sims 4 i feel like i'm on the 5 stages of grief and loss.
To me this reads more like:
"The Sims is not your typical game franchise that maybe gets one expansion halfway through it's lifespan and is then abandoned for the next version. The Sims keeps adding content up until a new version releases. It's only 2 years in"
Or as @SimGuruDrake / @SimGuruTrev says... Please be patient. These things take time. It's not over yet, nor for a while.
the devs can't be so condescendent with customers, that wouldn't be professional.
I think when someone see something wrong with what the devs say, it's only their own understanding...
The devs talk only to tell good with the game and certainly not for being hated by all the people...