Some bugs may require an certain routine to be activated and may be the reason that not everybody is experiencing problems. Another thing do not think an glitch and bug are one and the same. Some glitches can happen when an program does not meet specs and hard to reproduce, an bug tends to be written in the code.
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Some bugs may require an certain routine to be activated and may be the reason that not everybody is experiencing problems. Another thing do not think an glitch and bug are one and the same. Some glitches can happen when an program does not meet specs and hard to reproduce, an bug tends to be written in the code.
To be honest I always get kind of sad when simmers are blamed for bugs. Because every time I have one in Sims 3, I notice I blame myself. Going back in my mind “maybe I shouldn’t have done this” and “maybe I shouldn’t have done that”. And yes, there always seems to be some trigger because quite often, when I return to a previous save, it doesn’t occur again (especially in case of glitches). But quite often it appeared to be something that seemed perfectly alright to do. Like saying yes to that opportunity to send the parents on a free holiday. They could have at least patched out that opportunity showing up but they never did.
Some bugs may require an certain routine to be activated and may be the reason that not everybody is experiencing problems. Another thing do not think an glitch and bug are one and the same. Some glitches can happen when an program does not meet specs and hard to reproduce, an bug tends to be written in the code.
To be honest I always get kind of sad when simmers are blamed for bugs. Because every time I have one in Sims 3, I notice I blame myself. Going back in my mind “maybe I shouldn’t have done this” and “maybe I shouldn’t have done that”. And yes, there always seems to be some trigger because quite often, when I return to a previous save, it doesn’t occur again (especially in case of glitches). But quite often it appeared to be something that seemed perfectly alright to do. Like saying yes to that opportunity to send the parents on a free holiday. They could have at least patched out that opportunity showing up but they never did.
Yep, I can look at the past bugs in previous versions where EA/Maxis never fixed them and what they did was move on to the next version. I am quite sure it will happen here as well.
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Yep, I can look at the past bugs in previous versions where EA/Maxis never fixed them and what they did was move on to the next version. I am quite sure it will happen here as well.
Isnt that whats happening for the past years in sims 4?
For example, since vampires got introcuded there is a bug that the clothes get randomized. Not just for the vampire region but in other regions aswell. But instead of making it possible to see all outfits so we could determine which outfit is bugged, we have to use MCCC or cheats to access and change it to make the sims not look ridiculous. Instead maxis ignored the problem and did not even offer something to fix it for nearly 2 years.
Its not just a bug problem, incompetent developers are the problem. This is something thats a thing in the gaming industry. Unless someone creates a publicity scandal by calling the company out on their lack of action, nothing will change because people who are unaware of the problems keep creating profit for the company. So in the end its just about money while they pretend to care about their game and the community.
I'm so annoyed by the spa day bug where sims wear accessories with the towel.
It's just RUINS all the spa activities
A whole game pack
and they haven't fixed it.
Seriously, there are some bugs that have been in the game for at least three years and STILL haven't been fixed. One of the most glaring bugs in the game has only been partly fixed, and it's been a problem since GTW came out. I'm talking about the bug where Sims will "discover" undisguised aliens. And yes, people were reporting it as soon as it first came out in 2015. I say partly fixed because the aliens no longer get embarrassed while meeting human Sims without a disguise on, nor does that annoying popup show itself, but the human Sims still always either get confident or unreasonably angry at the alien.
Granted, I will at least give the Sims Team credit for finally trying to fix it after all this time. I'm not kidding. This particular bug used to be much, MUCH worse.
I really do wonder if anyone actually extensively play tested the aliens before releasing GTW, though. It's almost hard to believe that a bug as severe as this one slipped by unnoticed. No joke, it's like the game always assumes aliens to be in disguise regardless of if they're actually wearing one or not. Even with the partial fixes to the bug, I still find it hard to enjoy playing aliens because of all the human Sims that still get angry at them for no reason.
Yeah, I know that I commented on this bug earlier in the thread, but I figured I'd post an updated opinion on it now that it seems to be fixed, albeit only partially. On a side note, I got a chuckle out of looking back at my first thread on the issue and seeing that I didn't initially think that it was a bug. I wasn't aware that it was a bug until it was actually confirmed to not be by design.
Yep, I can look at the past bugs in previous versions where EA/Maxis never fixed them and what they did was move on to the next version. I am quite sure it will happen here as well.
Isnt that whats happening for the past years in sims 4?
For example, since vampires got introcuded there is a bug that the clothes get randomized. Not just for the vampire region but in other regions aswell. But instead of making it possible to see all outfits so we could determine which outfit is bugged, we have to use MCCC or cheats to access and change it to make the sims not look ridiculous. Instead maxis ignored the problem and did not even offer something to fix it for nearly 2 years.
Its not just a bug problem, incompetent developers are the problem. This is something thats a thing in the gaming industry. Unless someone creates a publicity scandal by calling the company out on their lack of action, nothing will change because people who are unaware of the problems keep creating profit for the company. So in the end its just about money while they pretend to care about their game and the community.
Your last paragraph is exactly how I feel as well. I have always said that if there were more competition in this particular gaming genre than EA/Maxis would have to put in the same amount of effort the place in their FPS & Sports games. I feel they take advantage of the modding community because in some way they know someone will find a "work around" for just about any issue.
Yep, I can look at the past bugs in previous versions where EA/Maxis never fixed them and what they did was move on to the next version. I am quite sure it will happen here as well.
Isnt that whats happening for the past years in sims 4?
For example, since vampires got introcuded there is a bug that the clothes get randomized. Not just for the vampire region but in other regions aswell. But instead of making it possible to see all outfits so we could determine which outfit is bugged, we have to use MCCC or cheats to access and change it to make the sims not look ridiculous. Instead maxis ignored the problem and did not even offer something to fix it for nearly 2 years.
Its not just a bug problem, incompetent developers are the problem. This is something thats a thing in the gaming industry. Unless someone creates a publicity scandal by calling the company out on their lack of action, nothing will change because people who are unaware of the problems keep creating profit for the company. So in the end its just about money while they pretend to care about their game and the community.
No, it has been in Sims 2 through Sims 3 and also Sim City 2013. I agree with your last point in your post. Regardless of what version, this program needs constant tweaking especially when an new pack is woven into the base game. Imho if they do not stay on top of it and just keep on adding more packs into the game it may get harder to tweak the game for they may have to comb through all that code to find the culprits.
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I havent played previous sims games. But if its true that the same problems happened with previous games, then it only adds to their incompetence. The idea to build a basic platform and implement a database that doesnt interfere with itself obviously is too much to ask after several games. Its just beyond me why these developers are incapable of learning from their mistakes.
My Sim was a vet with her own practice, she had reached 5 stars and had two fully qualified vets and making a small fortune. Then we had the Origin update, went into game and lo and behold, my Sim no longer had a vet.practice, it was up for sale. So I have had to start again. It seems every time there is an origin update something happens, last time, my whole game had disappeared, fortunately this time, only a business, which I am having to build up again. The two vets employed by my Sim were looking for jobs, so had to re-employ them, and their wages because of their experience is crippling the accounts, because the business is having to be built up again. Why does this happen every time there is an origin update. I cringe when I see them now.
I just don't know - but I read about these things - game issues and all but I still rarely see them. I know in past games many issues existed - I ended up fixing myself - I have yet to see things like the above ever. I even have auto up dates on - am always connected to Origin, allow full monitoring and yet never see things like this and I play my game quite a lot as most days I can't do much else. I have no explanation for it all - I just know I don't see all these issues people post and do nothing really special or unique. I don't use mods or cheats or anything to prevent anything - yet my game plays as I expect - nicely day after day.
Baffled here.
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@Writin_Reg You never had a household full of water drinking addicted vampires? Or addicted to mixing drinks? A full household was never standing still? Traveling sims never met a towny with what can only be labeld an accident of an outfit?
@Writin_Reg You never had a household full of water drinking addicted vampires? Or addicted to mixing drinks? A full household was never standing still? Traveling sims never met a towny with what can only be labeld an accident of an outfit?
What irritates me most about the water drinking is when your sim lives in San Myshuno and you have a few key holders and all they do everytime they come over is drink glass after glass of water and leave the glasses literally EVERYWHERE. Like why? majority of the time these guest stand around and drink water. There used to be a post on here about the excessive water drinking and how nothing was being done about it. I wonder if that post is still active or did the OP just give up.
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@Writin_Reg You never had a household full of water drinking addicted vampires? Or addicted to mixing drinks? A full household was never standing still? Traveling sims never met a towny with what can only be labeld an accident of an outfit?
I have never had a housefull of vamps drinking water - no. Never had them drinking period. I have had a Butler in a non-vampire house obsessed with the Globe bar so I removed the bar and put a regular one and no more problem. The last thing I have no idea what you were talking about for townies - unless you mean the weird way they dress and I have always seen that in all the Sims games. We use to laugh a Gumpy Gilsgarbo or what ever his name was in Sims 2 all the time over his strange clothing combos - so if that is what you are talking about - well that's just the Sims NPCs are always like that. I was just glad this time the devs have made many attempts to curb a lot of that in CL - but that is not new. If that is not what you were saying then I have no clue.
But sorry - I don't get those issues. I see plenty of people post them - seen them on videos - it just doesn't happen in my game.
Just to add I rarely have any Sims living in the CL world as i am not fond of the CL apts. So naturally i don't have Sims with glasses all over the place. My Sims go to all the festivals and visit CL a lot but don't live there. My Sims live in all the rest of the worlds though.
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I havent played previous sims games. But if its true that the same problems happened with previous games, then it only adds to their incompetence. The idea to build a basic platform and implement a database that doesnt interfere with itself obviously is too much to ask after several games. Its just beyond me why these developers are incapable of learning from their mistakes.
I am puzzled as to why it takes them so long to release patches, even hotfixes. Pathfinder: Kingmaker was released in not the best condition, but you know the devs are really working hard and providing updates and hotfixes in a timely manner. It's been out for less than a month and they provided over five patches now covering tons of issues. With the Sims devs, it took them like a month to fix a blurry screenshot issue... The teleporting sims and non-interactive sims bugs still haven't been fixed, and they were introduced into the game in that patch before Seasons.
Not to be rude or nothing and I'm just a concerned simmer, but what are they doing with all this time? I was looking at the latest patch for Pathfinder: Kingmaker and that one alone fixed 21 issues, this is on top of the many other patches they released in less than a month. I don't know... Maybe they really should consider hiring more people on the team because they really need to put more effort into fixing these bugs, and in a timely manner. It makes me sad to see such an awesome game that I've grown to love since its release degrading away like this... Bug fixing really should be their number one priority right now.
I told myself that I was not gonna buy anything until they at least get this non-interactive sims bug fixed, but I truly do want to support them because TS4 means a lot to me. So, I am indeed going to pre-ordering Get Famous on my next payday in hopes that they are gonna fix this along with other serious bugs sometime soon down this road.
@Writin_Reg You never had a household full of water drinking addicted vampires? Or addicted to mixing drinks? A full household was never standing still? Traveling sims never met a towny with what can only be labeld an accident of an outfit?
I have never had a housefull of vamps drinking water - no. Never had them drinking period. I have had a Butler in a non-vampire house obsessed with the Globe bar so I removed the bar and put a regular one and no more problem. The last thing I have no idea what you were talking about for townies - unless you mean the weird way they dress and I have always seen that in all the Sims games. We use to laugh a Gumpy Gilsgarbo or what ever his name was in Sims 2 all the time over his strange clothing combos - so if that is what you are talking about - well that's just the Sims NPCs are always like that. I was just glad this time the devs have made many attempts to curb a lot of that in CL - but that is not new. If that is not what you were saying then I have no clue.
But sorry - I don't get those issues. I see plenty of people post them - seen them on videos - it just doesn't happen in my game.
Just to add I rarely have any Sims living in the CL world as i am not fond of the CL apts. So naturally i don't have Sims with glasses all over the place. My Sims go to all the festivals and visit CL a lot but don't live there. My Sims live in all the rest of the worlds though.
To clarify, what I believe @Zasz is talking about with the townies is them walking around in outfits that are not apart of their usual wardrobe. I see this in my game as well. I know what each townie and premades wardrobe because I either gave then all makeovers or created them myself. So at night when they pass by my current households home or are walking around the neighborhood wearing random clothes that are not apart of their usual wardrobe I'm a bit irritated because it took forever to make wardrobes for all of the over 200 sims in my game. It's different when its game generated townies and I see them trotting around wearing random things, but the sims I went in and took so long to give a makeover to? Yea I do not like that very much.
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@Writin_Reg You never had a household full of water drinking addicted vampires? Or addicted to mixing drinks? A full household was never standing still? Traveling sims never met a towny with what can only be labeld an accident of an outfit?
I have never had a housefull of vamps drinking water - no. Never had them drinking period. I have had a Butler in a non-vampire house obsessed with the Globe bar so I removed the bar and put a regular one and no more problem. The last thing I have no idea what you were talking about for townies - unless you mean the weird way they dress and I have always seen that in all the Sims games. We use to laugh a Gumpy Gilsgarbo or what ever his name was in Sims 2 all the time over his strange clothing combos - so if that is what you are talking about - well that's just the Sims NPCs are always like that. I was just glad this time the devs have made many attempts to curb a lot of that in CL - but that is not new. If that is not what you were saying then I have no clue.
But sorry - I don't get those issues. I see plenty of people post them - seen them on videos - it just doesn't happen in my game.
Just to add I rarely have any Sims living in the CL world as i am not fond of the CL apts. So naturally i don't have Sims with glasses all over the place. My Sims go to all the festivals and visit CL a lot but don't live there. My Sims live in all the rest of the worlds though.
To clarify, what I believe @Zasz is talking about with the townies is them walking around in outfits that are not apart of their usual wardrobe. I see this in my game as well. I know what each townie and premades wardrobe because I either gave then all makeovers or created them myself. So at night when they pass by my current households home or are walking around the neighborhood wearing random clothes that are not apart of their usual wardrobe I'm a bit irritated because it took forever to make wardrobes for all of the over 200 sims in my game. It's different when its game generated townies and I see them trotting around wearing random things, but the sims I went in and took so long to give a makeover to? Yea I do not like that very much.
YES like the festival outfits and other random situational outfits that you can't even EDIT.
I hate how the game forces things like that on us. We have, how many now?? 7? outfit slots and they won't use any of those and instead just make up a disaster of an outfit.
How about sims wearing accessories with towels?
or how if you give a butler to multiple households in the same save they swap butlers, always have the same butler, or keep getting new ones??
@Writin_Reg You never had a household full of water drinking addicted vampires? Or addicted to mixing drinks? A full household was never standing still? Traveling sims never met a towny with what can only be labeld an accident of an outfit?
I have never had a housefull of vamps drinking water - no. Never had them drinking period. I have had a Butler in a non-vampire house obsessed with the Globe bar so I removed the bar and put a regular one and no more problem. The last thing I have no idea what you were talking about for townies - unless you mean the weird way they dress and I have always seen that in all the Sims games. We use to laugh a Gumpy Gilsgarbo or what ever his name was in Sims 2 all the time over his strange clothing combos - so if that is what you are talking about - well that's just the Sims NPCs are always like that. I was just glad this time the devs have made many attempts to curb a lot of that in CL - but that is not new. If that is not what you were saying then I have no clue.
But sorry - I don't get those issues. I see plenty of people post them - seen them on videos - it just doesn't happen in my game.
Just to add I rarely have any Sims living in the CL world as i am not fond of the CL apts. So naturally i don't have Sims with glasses all over the place. My Sims go to all the festivals and visit CL a lot but don't live there. My Sims live in all the rest of the worlds though.
To clarify, what I believe @Zasz is talking about with the townies is them walking around in outfits that are not apart of their usual wardrobe. I see this in my game as well. I know what each townie and premades wardrobe because I either gave then all makeovers or created them myself. So at night when they pass by my current households home or are walking around the neighborhood wearing random clothes that are not apart of their usual wardrobe I'm a bit irritated because it took forever to make wardrobes for all of the over 200 sims in my game. It's different when its game generated townies and I see them trotting around wearing random things, but the sims I went in and took so long to give a makeover to? Yea I do not like that very much.
YES like the festival outfits and other random situational outfits that you can't even EDIT.
I hate how the game forces things like that on us. We have, how many now?? 7? outfit slots and they won't use any of those and instead just make up a disaster of an outfit.
How about sims wearing accessories with towels?
or how if you give a butler to multiple households in the same save they swap butlers, always have the same butler, or keep getting new ones??
See I don't even use the butlers. I tried recently using a butler but my butler didn't even show up and I searched everywhere but couldn't find her. I first tried this feature patches ago and it worked fine, so I don't know what's going on at all. The festival outfits are the worst. I mean the whole cosplay thing at the Geekcon is understandable but when you go to the spice fest, humor and hijinks, or romance fest and there are sims in outfits I never made I'm sitting there like, "What the heck game?".
I wish I could play my game bugless. It would make the experience so much better for me especially since there is so much I haven't done in my game. There are features that I paid for in packs and I can't even use them. I have every pack except MFP. I should be able to use every feature included and shouldn't have to use workarounds or avoid certain things because of the bugs.
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This probably violates the Constitution (cruel & unusual punishments clause), but methinks the devs should be chained to workstations with typical normal user level computers and forced to play (or at least attempt to) their own creation. Maybe then they would begin to understand our problems, feel our pain, and do something about it. Have encountered too many things that a proper QC check would have found. Having been in QC for several years (aircraft engines), I know the deal.
I'm wondering if some of the bugs are created because programmers have been sacked, tasks changed or leave before they have completely finishied their first given tasks, leaving others to clear up. Some of the backgrounds to worlds look like that. Plus, having all packs so far I find that I don't get some to the bugs so maybe they were fixed "in pack" not universally?
This probably violates the Constitution (cruel & unusual punishments clause), but methinks the devs should be chained to workstations with typical normal user level computers and forced to play (or at least attempt to) their own creation. Maybe then they would begin to understand our problems, feel our pain, and do something about it. Have encountered too many things that a proper QC check would have found. Having been in QC for several years (aircraft engines), I know the deal.
I'm wondering if some of the bugs are created because programmers have been sacked, tasks changed or leave before they have completely finishied their first given tasks, leaving others to clear up. Some of the backgrounds to worlds look like that. Plus, having all packs so far I find that I don't get some to the bugs so maybe they were fixed "in pack" not universally?
If that's the case then EAxis is worse than we thought...
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@Writin_Reg You never had a household full of water drinking addicted vampires? Or addicted to mixing drinks? A full household was never standing still? Traveling sims never met a towny with what can only be labeld an accident of an outfit?
I have never had a housefull of vamps drinking water - no. Never had them drinking period. I have had a Butler in a non-vampire house obsessed with the Globe bar so I removed the bar and put a regular one and no more problem. The last thing I have no idea what you were talking about for townies - unless you mean the weird way they dress and I have always seen that in all the Sims games. We use to laugh a Gumpy Gilsgarbo or what ever his name was in Sims 2 all the time over his strange clothing combos - so if that is what you are talking about - well that's just the Sims NPCs are always like that. I was just glad this time the devs have made many attempts to curb a lot of that in CL - but that is not new. If that is not what you were saying then I have no clue.
But sorry - I don't get those issues. I see plenty of people post them - seen them on videos - it just doesn't happen in my game.
Just to add I rarely have any Sims living in the CL world as i am not fond of the CL apts. So naturally i don't have Sims with glasses all over the place. My Sims go to all the festivals and visit CL a lot but don't live there. My Sims live in all the rest of the worlds though.
To clarify, what I believe @Zasz is talking about with the townies is them walking around in outfits that are not apart of their usual wardrobe. I see this in my game as well. I know what each townie and premades wardrobe because I either gave then all makeovers or created them myself. So at night when they pass by my current households home or are walking around the neighborhood wearing random clothes that are not apart of their usual wardrobe I'm a bit irritated because it took forever to make wardrobes for all of the over 200 sims in my game. It's different when its game generated townies and I see them trotting around wearing random things, but the sims I went in and took so long to give a makeover to? Yea I do not like that very much.
I have this. Sims wear the hood from the bee keeping suit when at the spa, sometimes with gloves. Sims at the romance festival wearing the llama head. Sims at Geek con going there in their underwear and a t shirt. That's not sims dressing abnormally for fun, that's a bug. I have two high end gaming pcs and I've seen the game on my ps4 pro and it's present on all three. No mods, no cc.
It's not game breaking but it is silly. And the cynical part of me wonders if that's what the influencer career is set to "fix" as in that career we have been told we can offer make overs to sims.
@Writin_Reg You never had a household full of water drinking addicted vampires? Or addicted to mixing drinks? A full household was never standing still? Traveling sims never met a towny with what can only be labeld an accident of an outfit?
I have never had a housefull of vamps drinking water - no. Never had them drinking period. I have had a Butler in a non-vampire house obsessed with the Globe bar so I removed the bar and put a regular one and no more problem. The last thing I have no idea what you were talking about for townies - unless you mean the weird way they dress and I have always seen that in all the Sims games. We use to laugh a Gumpy Gilsgarbo or what ever his name was in Sims 2 all the time over his strange clothing combos - so if that is what you are talking about - well that's just the Sims NPCs are always like that. I was just glad this time the devs have made many attempts to curb a lot of that in CL - but that is not new. If that is not what you were saying then I have no clue.
But sorry - I don't get those issues. I see plenty of people post them - seen them on videos - it just doesn't happen in my game.
Just to add I rarely have any Sims living in the CL world as i am not fond of the CL apts. So naturally i don't have Sims with glasses all over the place. My Sims go to all the festivals and visit CL a lot but don't live there. My Sims live in all the rest of the worlds though.
To clarify, what I believe @Zasz is talking about with the townies is them walking around in outfits that are not apart of their usual wardrobe. I see this in my game as well. I know what each townie and premades wardrobe because I either gave then all makeovers or created them myself. So at night when they pass by my current households home or are walking around the neighborhood wearing random clothes that are not apart of their usual wardrobe I'm a bit irritated because it took forever to make wardrobes for all of the over 200 sims in my game. It's different when its game generated townies and I see them trotting around wearing random things, but the sims I went in and took so long to give a makeover to? Yea I do not like that very much.
I have this. Sims wear the hood from the bee keeping suit when at the spa, sometimes with gloves. Sims at the romance festival wearing the llama head. Sims at Geek con going there in their underwear and a t shirt. That's not sims dressing abnormally for fun, that's a bug. I have two high end gaming pcs and I've seen the game on my ps4 pro and it's present on all three. No mods, no cc.
It's not game breaking but it is silly. And the cynical part of me wonders if that's what the influencer career is set to "fix" as in that career we have been told we can offer make overs to sims.
we can already 'fix' sims with the 'edit in cas' cheat. And it doesn't matter if we go around fixing all the sims we see in the game since the game will just cull them and create new sims with messed up outfits again.
I hate it because it's taking away our control.
I don't know what the other person was saying about never seeing bugs, since they're everywhere in my game. Of course, there's bugs and then there's messed up 'features' that the don't make sense. Like how if you tell sims to sit in a booth they can't do it. Only one will sit. The other will just stand there unless you manually sit one down, scoot him over, and then sit the other. It doens't make sense. The game should recognize that for both sims to sit, one should automatically move over. It's not that big a deal with I'm just sitting my active sims, but NPC's end up not being able to sit because of this 'feature' either.
@Writin_Reg You never had a household full of water drinking addicted vampires? Or addicted to mixing drinks? A full household was never standing still? Traveling sims never met a towny with what can only be labeld an accident of an outfit?
I have never had a housefull of vamps drinking water - no. Never had them drinking period. I have had a Butler in a non-vampire house obsessed with the Globe bar so I removed the bar and put a regular one and no more problem. The last thing I have no idea what you were talking about for townies - unless you mean the weird way they dress and I have always seen that in all the Sims games. We use to laugh a Gumpy Gilsgarbo or what ever his name was in Sims 2 all the time over his strange clothing combos - so if that is what you are talking about - well that's just the Sims NPCs are always like that. I was just glad this time the devs have made many attempts to curb a lot of that in CL - but that is not new. If that is not what you were saying then I have no clue.
But sorry - I don't get those issues. I see plenty of people post them - seen them on videos - it just doesn't happen in my game.
Just to add I rarely have any Sims living in the CL world as i am not fond of the CL apts. So naturally i don't have Sims with glasses all over the place. My Sims go to all the festivals and visit CL a lot but don't live there. My Sims live in all the rest of the worlds though.
To clarify, what I believe @Zasz is talking about with the townies is them walking around in outfits that are not apart of their usual wardrobe. I see this in my game as well. I know what each townie and premades wardrobe because I either gave then all makeovers or created them myself. So at night when they pass by my current households home or are walking around the neighborhood wearing random clothes that are not apart of their usual wardrobe I'm a bit irritated because it took forever to make wardrobes for all of the over 200 sims in my game. It's different when its game generated townies and I see them trotting around wearing random things, but the sims I went in and took so long to give a makeover to? Yea I do not like that very much.
I have this. Sims wear the hood from the bee keeping suit when at the spa, sometimes with gloves. Sims at the romance festival wearing the llama head. Sims at Geek con going there in their underwear and a t shirt. That's not sims dressing abnormally for fun, that's a bug. I have two high end gaming pcs and I've seen the game on my ps4 pro and it's present on all three. No mods, no cc.
It's not game breaking but it is silly. And the cynical part of me wonders if that's what the influencer career is set to "fix" as in that career we have been told we can offer make overs to sims.
That though has been in all the Sims games - NPCs just randomly dress weird no matter how many times we re-dress them and always have. I constantly complained about that in Sims 2 so I know it is no worse in any other sims game. I have actually had better control of it in Sims 4 than 2 or 3 - which usually happens after the Devs again address the issue - which they didn't use to do very much - but definitely not worse in Sims 4 than past games. Sim we don't play with just wear the weirdest new thing that gets added to every pack until the devs try and curb it back. I have just seen it so many years now - I really tend to try and ignore it as it is usually at a fair or in Sims 4 case a Festival. But yes of course I see that - always have at those places. I just try an ignore it - they are NPCs and the AI can pick their stuff at random - so it does.
I do tend to not let my sim associate with the weird dressers though and stick to talking with the rest. LOL.
ETA - Any part of the game under AI control is always going to take away your control. that is how AI is - it controls the play players do not have so even if you change their clothes but they are not your Sims and AI has control of them - it will continue to do what it is programmed to do with Sims you are not truly in control of. It's programming and the way it works - like it or not. Technically your control stops at the Sims you actually play - so the fact you can control anything on an NPC is a step forward - as technically AI is in charge of them.
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@Writin_Reg You never had a household full of water drinking addicted vampires? Or addicted to mixing drinks? A full household was never standing still? Traveling sims never met a towny with what can only be labeld an accident of an outfit?
I have never had a housefull of vamps drinking water - no. Never had them drinking period. I have had a Butler in a non-vampire house obsessed with the Globe bar so I removed the bar and put a regular one and no more problem. The last thing I have no idea what you were talking about for townies - unless you mean the weird way they dress and I have always seen that in all the Sims games. We use to laugh a Gumpy Gilsgarbo or what ever his name was in Sims 2 all the time over his strange clothing combos - so if that is what you are talking about - well that's just the Sims NPCs are always like that. I was just glad this time the devs have made many attempts to curb a lot of that in CL - but that is not new. If that is not what you were saying then I have no clue.
But sorry - I don't get those issues. I see plenty of people post them - seen them on videos - it just doesn't happen in my game.
Just to add I rarely have any Sims living in the CL world as i am not fond of the CL apts. So naturally i don't have Sims with glasses all over the place. My Sims go to all the festivals and visit CL a lot but don't live there. My Sims live in all the rest of the worlds though.
To clarify, what I believe @Zasz is talking about with the townies is them walking around in outfits that are not apart of their usual wardrobe. I see this in my game as well. I know what each townie and premades wardrobe because I either gave then all makeovers or created them myself. So at night when they pass by my current households home or are walking around the neighborhood wearing random clothes that are not apart of their usual wardrobe I'm a bit irritated because it took forever to make wardrobes for all of the over 200 sims in my game. It's different when its game generated townies and I see them trotting around wearing random things, but the sims I went in and took so long to give a makeover to? Yea I do not like that very much.
I have this. Sims wear the hood from the bee keeping suit when at the spa, sometimes with gloves. Sims at the romance festival wearing the llama head. Sims at Geek con going there in their underwear and a t shirt. That's not sims dressing abnormally for fun, that's a bug. I have two high end gaming pcs and I've seen the game on my ps4 pro and it's present on all three. No mods, no cc.
It's not game breaking but it is silly. And the cynical part of me wonders if that's what the influencer career is set to "fix" as in that career we have been told we can offer make overs to sims.
Omg , this would drive me nuts. I saw this sort of bug when the repair person would come over to fix something and was wearing some weird gear head thing, after a patch after we got the repair guy back in this game. It was a literal bug. So, I'm not sure how others can possibly think this is supposed to be normal for Sims who are supposed to be in party outfits, or formals or swimwear show up in a llama head. Reading stuff like this is why I refuse to reinstall TS4, it's such a mess I would be here all day rasing cane. I am sort of interested in the acting career in the new pack but I wonder how many townies will be going around in the beast outfit from the Black Lagoon or something? I bet more than I want to deal with.
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I completely understand that AI takes control when needed, however, to have them in outfits that aren't even in their wardrobes? These are sims wearing outfits that aren't apart of their wardrobe at all how is that normal? What is the point of even giving us the option to make sims over if they will just wear something else completely at random? How does that give the player a choice or coincide with the whole "You Rule" concept of the game? But its part of the programming with the AI so we just have to accept it right? This shouldn't have been a thing. For me, I don't recall this being a huge issue until after city living came out and then it just got worse from there on with each new pack or at least the packs with the most flamboyant clothing. There a huge difference between game generated townies being in random clothing and townies players makeover and create. Yes, randomly dressed townies happened in ALL the games no one is denying that. However, this is happening to Sims who have established wardrobes already. Sims players create and makeover. Sims players rotate with and see when their current household is out and they know that's not apart of their normal wardrobe. That can't be normal. That did not happen in prior games. At least not to my knowledge.
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Yep, I can look at the past bugs in previous versions where EA/Maxis never fixed them and what they did was move on to the next version. I am quite sure it will happen here as well.
For example, since vampires got introcuded there is a bug that the clothes get randomized. Not just for the vampire region but in other regions aswell. But instead of making it possible to see all outfits so we could determine which outfit is bugged, we have to use MCCC or cheats to access and change it to make the sims not look ridiculous. Instead maxis ignored the problem and did not even offer something to fix it for nearly 2 years.
Its not just a bug problem, incompetent developers are the problem. This is something thats a thing in the gaming industry. Unless someone creates a publicity scandal by calling the company out on their lack of action, nothing will change because people who are unaware of the problems keep creating profit for the company. So in the end its just about money while they pretend to care about their game and the community.
It's just RUINS all the spa activities
A whole game pack
and they haven't fixed it.
Granted, I will at least give the Sims Team credit for finally trying to fix it after all this time. I'm not kidding. This particular bug used to be much, MUCH worse.
I really do wonder if anyone actually extensively play tested the aliens before releasing GTW, though. It's almost hard to believe that a bug as severe as this one slipped by unnoticed. No joke, it's like the game always assumes aliens to be in disguise regardless of if they're actually wearing one or not. Even with the partial fixes to the bug, I still find it hard to enjoy playing aliens because of all the human Sims that still get angry at them for no reason.
Yeah, I know that I commented on this bug earlier in the thread, but I figured I'd post an updated opinion on it now that it seems to be fixed, albeit only partially. On a side note, I got a chuckle out of looking back at my first thread on the issue and seeing that I didn't initially think that it was a bug. I wasn't aware that it was a bug until it was actually confirmed to not be by design.
Your last paragraph is exactly how I feel as well. I have always said that if there were more competition in this particular gaming genre than EA/Maxis would have to put in the same amount of effort the place in their FPS & Sports games. I feel they take advantage of the modding community because in some way they know someone will find a "work around" for just about any issue.
No, it has been in Sims 2 through Sims 3 and also Sim City 2013. I agree with your last point in your post. Regardless of what version, this program needs constant tweaking especially when an new pack is woven into the base game. Imho if they do not stay on top of it and just keep on adding more packs into the game it may get harder to tweak the game for they may have to comb through all that code to find the culprits.
Baffled here.
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What irritates me most about the water drinking is when your sim lives in San Myshuno and you have a few key holders and all they do everytime they come over is drink glass after glass of water and leave the glasses literally EVERYWHERE. Like why? majority of the time these guest stand around and drink water. There used to be a post on here about the excessive water drinking and how nothing was being done about it. I wonder if that post is still active or did the OP just give up.
I have never had a housefull of vamps drinking water - no. Never had them drinking period. I have had a Butler in a non-vampire house obsessed with the Globe bar so I removed the bar and put a regular one and no more problem. The last thing I have no idea what you were talking about for townies - unless you mean the weird way they dress and I have always seen that in all the Sims games. We use to laugh a Gumpy Gilsgarbo or what ever his name was in Sims 2 all the time over his strange clothing combos - so if that is what you are talking about - well that's just the Sims NPCs are always like that. I was just glad this time the devs have made many attempts to curb a lot of that in CL - but that is not new. If that is not what you were saying then I have no clue.
But sorry - I don't get those issues. I see plenty of people post them - seen them on videos - it just doesn't happen in my game.
Just to add I rarely have any Sims living in the CL world as i am not fond of the CL apts. So naturally i don't have Sims with glasses all over the place. My Sims go to all the festivals and visit CL a lot but don't live there. My Sims live in all the rest of the worlds though.
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In REALITY, I simply exist.....
I am puzzled as to why it takes them so long to release patches, even hotfixes. Pathfinder: Kingmaker was released in not the best condition, but you know the devs are really working hard and providing updates and hotfixes in a timely manner. It's been out for less than a month and they provided over five patches now covering tons of issues. With the Sims devs, it took them like a month to fix a blurry screenshot issue... The teleporting sims and non-interactive sims bugs still haven't been fixed, and they were introduced into the game in that patch before Seasons.
Not to be rude or nothing and I'm just a concerned simmer, but what are they doing with all this time? I was looking at the latest patch for Pathfinder: Kingmaker and that one alone fixed 21 issues, this is on top of the many other patches they released in less than a month. I don't know... Maybe they really should consider hiring more people on the team because they really need to put more effort into fixing these bugs, and in a timely manner. It makes me sad to see such an awesome game that I've grown to love since its release degrading away like this... Bug fixing really should be their number one priority right now.
I told myself that I was not gonna buy anything until they at least get this non-interactive sims bug fixed, but I truly do want to support them because TS4 means a lot to me. So, I am indeed going to pre-ordering Get Famous on my next payday in hopes that they are gonna fix this along with other serious bugs sometime soon down this road.
To clarify, what I believe @Zasz is talking about with the townies is them walking around in outfits that are not apart of their usual wardrobe. I see this in my game as well. I know what each townie and premades wardrobe because I either gave then all makeovers or created them myself. So at night when they pass by my current households home or are walking around the neighborhood wearing random clothes that are not apart of their usual wardrobe I'm a bit irritated because it took forever to make wardrobes for all of the over 200 sims in my game. It's different when its game generated townies and I see them trotting around wearing random things, but the sims I went in and took so long to give a makeover to? Yea I do not like that very much.
YES like the festival outfits and other random situational outfits that you can't even EDIT.
I hate how the game forces things like that on us. We have, how many now?? 7? outfit slots and they won't use any of those and instead just make up a disaster of an outfit.
How about sims wearing accessories with towels?
or how if you give a butler to multiple households in the same save they swap butlers, always have the same butler, or keep getting new ones??
See I don't even use the butlers. I tried recently using a butler but my butler didn't even show up and I searched everywhere but couldn't find her. I first tried this feature patches ago and it worked fine, so I don't know what's going on at all. The festival outfits are the worst. I mean the whole cosplay thing at the Geekcon is understandable but when you go to the spice fest, humor and hijinks, or romance fest and there are sims in outfits I never made I'm sitting there like, "What the heck game?".
I wish I could play my game bugless. It would make the experience so much better for me especially since there is so much I haven't done in my game. There are features that I paid for in packs and I can't even use them. I have every pack except MFP. I should be able to use every feature included and shouldn't have to use workarounds or avoid certain things because of the bugs.
I'm wondering if some of the bugs are created because programmers have been sacked, tasks changed or leave before they have completely finishied their first given tasks, leaving others to clear up. Some of the backgrounds to worlds look like that. Plus, having all packs so far I find that I don't get some to the bugs so maybe they were fixed "in pack" not universally?
If that's the case then EAxis is worse than we thought...
I have this. Sims wear the hood from the bee keeping suit when at the spa, sometimes with gloves. Sims at the romance festival wearing the llama head. Sims at Geek con going there in their underwear and a t shirt. That's not sims dressing abnormally for fun, that's a bug. I have two high end gaming pcs and I've seen the game on my ps4 pro and it's present on all three. No mods, no cc.
It's not game breaking but it is silly. And the cynical part of me wonders if that's what the influencer career is set to "fix" as in that career we have been told we can offer make overs to sims.
we can already 'fix' sims with the 'edit in cas' cheat. And it doesn't matter if we go around fixing all the sims we see in the game since the game will just cull them and create new sims with messed up outfits again.
I hate it because it's taking away our control.
I don't know what the other person was saying about never seeing bugs, since they're everywhere in my game. Of course, there's bugs and then there's messed up 'features' that the don't make sense. Like how if you tell sims to sit in a booth they can't do it. Only one will sit. The other will just stand there unless you manually sit one down, scoot him over, and then sit the other. It doens't make sense. The game should recognize that for both sims to sit, one should automatically move over. It's not that big a deal with I'm just sitting my active sims, but NPC's end up not being able to sit because of this 'feature' either.
That though has been in all the Sims games - NPCs just randomly dress weird no matter how many times we re-dress them and always have. I constantly complained about that in Sims 2 so I know it is no worse in any other sims game. I have actually had better control of it in Sims 4 than 2 or 3 - which usually happens after the Devs again address the issue - which they didn't use to do very much - but definitely not worse in Sims 4 than past games. Sim we don't play with just wear the weirdest new thing that gets added to every pack until the devs try and curb it back. I have just seen it so many years now - I really tend to try and ignore it as it is usually at a fair or in Sims 4 case a Festival. But yes of course I see that - always have at those places. I just try an ignore it - they are NPCs and the AI can pick their stuff at random - so it does.
I do tend to not let my sim associate with the weird dressers though and stick to talking with the rest. LOL.
ETA - Any part of the game under AI control is always going to take away your control. that is how AI is - it controls the play players do not have so even if you change their clothes but they are not your Sims and AI has control of them - it will continue to do what it is programmed to do with Sims you are not truly in control of. It's programming and the way it works - like it or not. Technically your control stops at the Sims you actually play - so the fact you can control anything on an NPC is a step forward - as technically AI is in charge of them.
"Games Are Not The Place To Tell Stories, Games Are Meant To Let People Tell Their Own Stories"...Will Wright.
In dreams - I LIVE!
In REALITY, I simply exist.....
Omg , this would drive me nuts. I saw this sort of bug when the repair person would come over to fix something and was wearing some weird gear head thing, after a patch after we got the repair guy back in this game. It was a literal bug. So, I'm not sure how others can possibly think this is supposed to be normal for Sims who are supposed to be in party outfits, or formals or swimwear show up in a llama head. Reading stuff like this is why I refuse to reinstall TS4, it's such a mess I would be here all day rasing cane. I am sort of interested in the acting career in the new pack but I wonder how many townies will be going around in the beast outfit from the Black Lagoon or something? I bet more than I want to deal with.