And its like the only truthful review HAS to be a negative one
The only truthful review is one that shows added gameplay, CAS and B/B and the options available within those areas.
Does this or that element work correctly? Yes or no?
Did I experience glitches, routing issues, bugs etc.
Positive, negative, love, hate is all opinion.
Most reviews will be biased to some degree but so is reader perception.
Maybe I shouldn't stir this up, but I REALLY miss Quxxn. She was an awesome person, and my favorite reviewer. She never seemed too biased or anything, she always just showed off the content and THEN put her input both good and bad. Really miss her
Are any of you really surprised?
He literally tears them to shreds every single time. Now, i'm not saying hes wrong but why would they keep giving free stuff to someone who drags them through the dirt?
Are any of you really surprised?
He literally tears them to shreds every single time. Now, i'm not saying hes wrong but why would they keep giving free stuff to someone who drags them through the dirt?
Because withholding copies from critics has the Streisand effect, making it equally as "damaging."
Sims 4's base game withheld review copies entirely. Perhaps this made them more profit in the grand scheme of things, but this was so bad it was newsworthy and all the gaming journalist websites were making sure people knew this was an unorthodox move, while people such as myself and others saw it as evidence they had no faith in the title on release.
What's worse: one reviewer saying your game stinks or review copies mysteriously disappearing from the hands of more critical reviewers to the point that people conclude the game must stink and cautiously avoid it? Both have their ups and downs, but something about withholding copies just seems more desperate and as if they want to hide something/avoid any bad press long enough to close a sale.
I enjoy watching LGR's review, but I'm not sure why most people (especially here on the forums) put him on such a high pedestal. Not sure what makes him any more special than the other YouTube simmers... I know he's the only serious reviewer about it, but still...
I don't really think it's a pedestal. It's just that they value his opinion.
It's like getting advice from your best friend on a dress. Sure it might be bias, might even be the last kind thing you want to hear (especially from your bestie lol). But you value it regardless of how you agree or disagree with , because she's being honest in how she feels (good or bad) about it and giving you a heads up.
It's not exactly that people "buy/not buy it if LGR says it's good/bad" but rather "If this pack has x issue, then i'm out." or "Wow I didn't know about that. I may have to get this". and lets be honest (I'm talking about the sims in general), I think everyone has a bit of a "dealbreaker" and a "must have" scenario at some point in this series, I mean look at how some simmers feel about a laundry stuff pack or buggy things in the game, or how the sims 2 and 3 are talked about.
LGR just points out the pros and cons in the ways he sees it. Which is good for many simmers so they know the pros and cons that help them in their decision. Not everyone wants to dive into a pack head first (after doing such for 4 iterations..I'm wising up ). Other Youtubers, it feels as if their only giving pros, and in doing so a person buys the pack and finding a lot of things that they don't like that weren't exactly mentioned in livestreams/blogs/etc. Not because "the you-tuber told me to buy" but more like "I had no idea about this" Then they come to the forums to talk about it and boom, the cycle continues.
Maybe that's just how I see it though lol. But I guess from one simmer to another, I get it.
And its like the only truthful review HAS to be a negative one
The only truthful review is one that shows added gameplay, CAS and B/B and the options available within those areas.
Does this or that element work correctly? Yes or no?
Did I experience glitches, routing issues, bugs etc.
Positive, negative, love, hate is all opinion.
Most reviews will be biased to some degree but so is reader perception.
Maybe I shouldn't stir this up, but I REALLY miss Quxxn. She was an awesome person, and my favorite reviewer. She never seemed too biased or anything, she always just showed off the content and THEN put her input both good and bad. Really miss her
And that's what I always thought about LGR until TS4.
IMO the review style disagreements are more about the delivery than the content.
To me, the cheerleading can go over the top and come across like a politician kissing babies after a speech.
Then again, if EA/Maxis belonged to me I wouldn't give LGR a free copy either.
I don't think anything in this iteration of the game will truly be to his liking.
Why beat a dead horse?
It's like begging someone to go out with you after they've told you "no".
Are any of you really surprised?
He literally tears them to shreds every single time. Now, i'm not saying hes wrong but why would they keep giving free stuff to someone who drags them through the dirt?
Because withholding copies from critics has the Streisand effect, making it equally as "damaging."
Sims 4's base game withheld review copies entirely. Perhaps this made them more profit in the grand scheme of things, but this was so bad it was newsworthy and all the gaming journalist websites were making sure people knew this was an unorthodox move, while people such as myself and others saw it as evidence they had no faith in the title on release.
What's worse: one reviewer saying your game stinks or review copies mysteriously disappearing from the hands of more critical reviewers to the point that people conclude the game must stink and cautiously avoid it? Both have their ups and downs, but something about withholding copies just seems more desperate and as if they want to hide something/avoid any bad press long enough to close a sale.
I don't see it as damaging, people get kicked off of Press Release lists all the time for having negative opinions. It's how the nature of the business.
I agree that they likely have not much faith in this latest release, unless you've experienced previous sims pet expansions, you're not going to know what you are missing and what you are gaining. It's lack luster and filled with bugs. however it all comes down to it being their choice in who they want to give PR items to.
In the beauty guru community on youtube people are kicked off of lists all the time, thats how it is. It's the same with this. His opinions are rarely good, they know this for sure now, so why invest the time and money into it.
@mirta000 For more detail. (this is sims 4 not irl) my dog kept whining and crying. I had no idea what was wrong with him. I kept feeding him, petting him etc and I could just not figure out why he was upset. Then it hit me. I saw him looking at the fireplace and shaking. He's afraid of fire. Sure enough I turned off the fireplace and he went back to running around happy.
There is story telling purpose. How boring would it be if I looked at his UI and saw "Afraid of fire" YAWN.
Instead of seeing a meter that said his bladder was low, he stood by the back door and started barking, waking up my sim. She then got up and let him out to go pee. When he was hungry he stood by his bowl in the kitchen and started whining.
MY female dog wasn't fixed, so she went by the doors and constantly was howling over and over again with woohoo hearts swirling around her. I loved it, so realistic! So instead of telling me she was in heat with a moodlet etc, it showed it. Took her to the vet and she stopped.
MY cat wouldn't shut up and it turns out she had a trait where she liked to go outside a lot. IT was more fun NOT seeing the trait because I got to learn and adapt to her situation.
I'm almost positive I've seen you make threads before asking for less tell and more show, and if you haven't I sure as heck have seen multiple people.
These pets show and not tell, and that's what I love about them. I never really played with pets in sims 2 or 3, being completely honest. I REALLY love the pets in sims 4. The lack of pet beds and dog houses bother me, yes. But I think they 100% nailed the pets AI.
Go back and play with pets in TS2 and TS3. You're acting as if they did not DO these things (hint, they did).
To me it's tedious. You no longer have a companion, you have a portrait to babysit. In real life I do not need to babysit my cats. They will approach me when they want attention and that's exactly what they did in TS3 and TS2 (In TS3 the cats kept on sitting on my sims lap while they were watching TV and it was the cutest thing ever. In TS2 they loved sitting on counters, destroying furniture, digging holes, hissing at each other and it was up to you to teach them not to behave that way, yet you still had the opportunity to see their relationships and needs. Because we're playing a game and we're playing with the cat. We're not babysitting a portrait).
I totally agree with this. My sims 2 dog came home from the pet shop and destroyed the couch straight away, my sims 2 cats jump on the counters and eat food. My sims 3 dog in my current house brings the newspaper in every day, sometimes if no one picks it up he chews it to bits. My sim went to work and he dug up the yard and the neighbours. My sims 3 cat destroyed her cat condo, refuses to use her cat litter when it’s dirty and follows her family from room to room.
This pack was bough for me as a surprise gift and I feel bad feeling this way about it. There are some things I enjoy about it but I really despise not being able to view my pets needs/skills and relationship panel. I see no excuse for it. Can’t call the realism card when this is a game with vampires and aliens, pets wearing clothes and kids skipping school to hang out in clubs.
Its one thing to say just watch your pet and they tell you what they need but I disagree. I made a aloof, glutton lazy cat and a vocal, friendly and frisky cat. Both of them NEVER stop meowing. I expect it to a degree from a vocal cat but as the owner of s real life “vocal” cat I beg to differ, the breed in question is not vocal to the point they never shut up. The strangest thing is the aloof cat is more vocal. They keep waking my sims up. They always have a full bowl of food and according to their portraits they are “fine” but I beg to differ. My sims are having to spend all their time interacting with them and if they go to work the cats needs tank into red for a simple shift. So is the alternative they come everywhere from now on?
For the first time ever in the history of the entire series one of my pets ran away. Why? I have no idea. His mood was fine. Apparently. I genuinely have no idea why the cat ran away. He had food, company, access to the outside and comfy bed inside.
It’s not realistic in any way to not view how a pet feels about another pet, if a pet is feeling neglected or whatever. It’s especially not realistic to not know what behaviours your pets have learned. I,e say you teach your car to stop going through the trash. There’s no record of this I’m gsme that I can see.
@mirta000 For more detail. (this is sims 4 not irl) my dog kept whining and crying. I had no idea what was wrong with him. I kept feeding him, petting him etc and I could just not figure out why he was upset. Then it hit me. I saw him looking at the fireplace and shaking. He's afraid of fire. Sure enough I turned off the fireplace and he went back to running around happy.
There is story telling purpose. How boring would it be if I looked at his UI and saw "Afraid of fire" YAWN.
Instead of seeing a meter that said his bladder was low, he stood by the back door and started barking, waking up my sim. She then got up and let him out to go pee. When he was hungry he stood by his bowl in the kitchen and started whining.
MY female dog wasn't fixed, so she went by the doors and constantly was howling over and over again with woohoo hearts swirling around her. I loved it, so realistic! So instead of telling me she was in heat with a moodlet etc, it showed it. Took her to the vet and she stopped.
MY cat wouldn't shut up and it turns out she had a trait where she liked to go outside a lot. IT was more fun NOT seeing the trait because I got to learn and adapt to her situation.
I'm almost positive I've seen you make threads before asking for less tell and more show, and if you haven't I sure as heck have seen multiple people.
These pets show and not tell, and that's what I love about them. I never really played with pets in sims 2 or 3, being completely honest. I REALLY love the pets in sims 4. The lack of pet beds and dog houses bother me, yes. But I think they 100% nailed the pets AI.
Go back and play with pets in TS2 and TS3. You're acting as if they did not DO these things (hint, they did).
To me it's tedious. You no longer have a companion, you have a portrait to babysit. In real life I do not need to babysit my cats. They will approach me when they want attention and that's exactly what they did in TS3 and TS2 (In TS3 the cats kept on sitting on my sims lap while they were watching TV and it was the cutest thing ever. In TS2 they loved sitting on counters, destroying furniture, digging holes, hissing at each other and it was up to you to teach them not to behave that way, yet you still had the opportunity to see their relationships and needs. Because we're playing a game and we're playing with the cat. We're not babysitting a portrait).
Do you even have the sims 4 cats and dogs? Because the things they do in sims 4 they definitely did NOT do in 3 or 2. You don't need to baby sit your cats. The cats are just like IRL. Make sure they have food and a clean litterbox and they pretty much take care of themselves.
Dogs on the other hand are much more high maintenence, just like irl.
I agree it’s good the pets act rather than just get a moodlet. But I really wish for the ability to view their needs and relationships and skills. I don’t understand why a vital thing has been left out.
I can’t say I’ve noticed a huge difference in their behaviours vs the previous versions. My sims 3 cats can sit on laps, haven’t seen that in 4,the hug interaction is identical to the sims 3, pets can go through the trash cans in previous versions, they can roll in dirty puddles and drink from dirty puddles in previous versions. Previous versions pets could run away particularly after a trumatic event. Cats and dogs could socialise and nuzzle each other in previous versions, it’s still here in the sims 4. I like many of the animations in the sims 4, some are very cute but I think the only new thing is cats going on fridges.
I don’t mind not having control but it bothers me way more than I thought it would that I can’t see the pets needs or anything relating to them. In one house with 3 pets my sims loves revolved around the pets because they were constantly unhappy even thoug their emotion said “fine” I love pets in game but pets shouldn’t be the focus of a house to the point it’s to the detriment of the sims living there. I’m playing sims not Petz. It’s not realistic that my sims can’t go to work because their cats needs will tank and there’s no clear indication of what’s going on when all their basic needs are met. And I’m left watching the pets all the time trying to work out why my aloof cat is howling and keeping the house awake.
I wonder why they didn't give him an early access for this pack. I mean, IF they watch his youtube channel, they can see that he loves EVERYTHING that is real-life based (aka not aliens, vampires and such) so I mean, if I were EA/maxis, I would absolutely give him a copy because there's like a 99% chance he'd like it a lot and he has a lot of followers...
Literally EVERYTHING he says is negative. He picks whatever he can and makes it a huge deal. I'd much rather watch someone like Deligracy who does genuinely love the game and got her subscribers from being passionate about it than someone who just moans and makes everyone feel negative. Or you know, just play it myself.
I agree. I think he's pretty bias, I mean it's clear he doesn't like the game at all no matter what it offers and is just doing it for a "job". It's fine if he generally just doesn't like something, it's great, because I do like hearing what others dislike as much as they like.
With a Simmer like Deligracy, yeah she does genuine love the Sims BUT I've watched videos where she discusses her disappointment with something or "missed opportunities" or just things she really doesn't like about the game or a certain pack. She's just not as harsh when she does this. But her criticism gets dismissed because people see the Sims team giving her early access and think "oh, she HAS to say good stuff." Lmao no she doesn't and certainly hasn't praised them all the time.
The different criticisms from the two Simmers is what I find amusing, though and why I watch both. He seems to see the game as a huge chore and just generally does not want to be around it, but is making reviews for the sake of his "job". Whereas, she's usually pretty excited and curious to see what's new, like opening presents haha and when she's disappointed she doesn't drone on and nit pick about it but she lets you know and moves on.
I wonder why they didn't give him an early access for this pack. I mean, IF they watch his youtube channel, they can see that he loves EVERYTHING that is real-life based (aka not aliens, vampires and such) so I mean, if I were EA/maxis, I would absolutely give him a copy because there's like a 99% chance he'd like it a lot and he has a lot of followers...
Literally EVERYTHING he says is negative. He picks whatever he can and makes it a huge deal. I'd much rather watch someone like Deligracy who does genuinely love the game and got her subscribers from being passionate about it than someone who just moans and makes everyone feel negative. Or you know, just play it myself.
Not everything he says is negative -- he actually praised the in-depth nature of the vampire pack even though he's not into playing supernaturals, but he really was impressed with the toddler patch.
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Yes, I really think the pets in TS2 were better... I was expecting too much and since we only have cats and dogs, not a single new small pet, I was having huge expectations for them to be as good as the toddlers.
I wonder why they didn't give him an early access for this pack. I mean, IF they watch his youtube channel, they can see that he loves EVERYTHING that is real-life based (aka not aliens, vampires and such) so I mean, if I were EA/maxis, I would absolutely give him a copy because there's like a 99% chance he'd like it a lot and he has a lot of followers...
Literally EVERYTHING he says is negative. He picks whatever he can and makes it a huge deal. I'd much rather watch someone like Deligracy who does genuinely love the game and got her subscribers from being passionate about it than someone who just moans and makes everyone feel negative. Or you know, just play it myself.
Not everything he says is negative -- he actually praised the in-depth nature of the vampire pack even though he's not into playing supernaturals, but he really was impressed with the toddler patch.
YH,i dont understand why peopke say he is negative.Even with the things he didn;t likwe . He still says there well done
his reviews don't come across as informative or constructive to me. The last time we tried to explain this to his fangirls, they told us "Well, he doesn't call himself Lazy Game Reviews for no reason"
To me that's not a good excuse. Be negative if you want. Rip the packs to shreds. But being constructive or at least explaining your frustrations is lesson number one for a reviewer.
I wonder why they didn't give him an early access for this pack. I mean, IF they watch his youtube channel, they can see that he loves EVERYTHING that is real-life based (aka not aliens, vampires and such) so I mean, if I were EA/maxis, I would absolutely give him a copy because there's like a 99% chance he'd like it a lot and he has a lot of followers...
Literally EVERYTHING he says is negative. He picks whatever he can and makes it a huge deal. I'd much rather watch someone like Deligracy who does genuinely love the game and got her subscribers from being passionate about it than someone who just moans and makes everyone feel negative. Or you know, just play it myself.
Then you're free to watch Deligracy while those who want a critical review can watch his. The goal is not to force any of us to watch a specific Youtuber, and there's enough people on the market to satisfy all tastes.
....Except now they just kinda left out the last bastion of critical reviews within the community, and this should make people ask why they chose to do that.
They are a business, they don't owe anyone a free game or an early copy.
Saying "not to be rude", then blatently being rude does not excuse rude behavior.
Sorry but Eveything he says about the Sims is bad he called it all meh in one of he videos I can see why he wasn't givin a review copy and I think lgr just didn't like the sims
What ? No he said at the two years . It was Sims 4 two years of meh. He was being critical. Even in that vidio he said he didn't hate the sims . He still enjoyed the previouse games at that time Sims 4 contents wasn't that great .They still gave him review copiseis . In all his reviews he is honest . If he like something or think something was well done he will say.
If one goes against the grain regardless of how good or bad the product is that person is looked at like an outsider being he/she does not feel like others do. Say something negative about the game and all danger breaks loose. For me it feels like a hive mentality if you dislike one part of the game you are an outsider. I agree with his analysis of the product and rather have an honest one instead on an inhonest one. Because he did not get an free pack that may not stop him from critiquing the EP. I look forward to it I must say because the game still do not have the tools I do need.
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his reviews don't come across as informative or constructive to me. The last time we tried to explain this to his fangirls, they told us "Well, he doesn't call himself Lazy Game Reviews for no reason"
To me that's not a good excuse. Be negative if you want. Rip the packs to shreds. But being constructive or at least explaining your frustrations is lesson number one for a reviewer.
I think he makes some good constructive points every now and then in the reviews I've seen. But I think that overall, he is using a format that just doesn't fit video games. Especially a video game like the sims, where there is so much little details.
He's essentially using the kind of format you might use to make a quick review of a book or movie. But this format has never worked for video games because games (particularly the big budget ones that draw the most reviewer attention) are only increasingly complex in scope and detail, so it's just impractical to attempt to boil down their entire essence into a 5-10 minute review, after having put in a few hours of gameplay.
I like the format I've seen Jim Sterling using for games (and I think there are others like him doing this). They'll essentially make a "first impressions" review, where they are reviewing based on their first impressions of the game. Then sometimes they'll do a second review some time later, finishing up their impressions and doubling down on certain opinions, or changing up things that their mindset changed on.
I feel this gives a more accurate picture to the audience overall and it's helpful to the reviewer too, in a way, since they have an excuse to make a second video about the same topic and get more views on it.
But see, I don't know if LGR could actually do that with the sims, as the way he's talked in some of his reviews, it sounds like he pretty much logs into the sims around pack release time to make a review and then logs out again. So how would he do that kind of format if he's so disinterested that he can't bring myself to play it for fun in the first place.
Honestly, I neither like nor dislike LGR or Deligracy's reviews. Both are on two different ends of the spectrum. You can kind of tell that both are pushing their side to the point where the content feels a little overzealous and not genuine.
IF I were to recommend someone: hit up James from the Sim Supply. Sure, he's Deligracy's friend, but he will praise and "roast" parts of the pack (Kids Room Stuff ballpit especially) that he doesn't like. His fair input is pretty respected by the Gurus, so most of the time, his complaints are usually fixed through patches and new packs.
That's what we should all be. State honest feedback and disagreement might lead to change. (obviously this may not always happen asap, because EA/Maxis are big companies that can't act right away, but they are listening!)
Nobody watches LGR's reviews to help them decide whether to purchase or not. Those who don't like the game are waiting, probably even hoping to hear it's the worst version of pets ever. They then feel vindicated and the I told you's will soon follow.
@Horrorgirl6 Thats fine. But that doesnt mean his opinion is more meaningful than the next person.
The facegroup im in has a ton of sims 4 fans in it and everyone is HAPPY Those that have a copy , that is. To me that says more than some guy on you tube
So your “facegroup” is a know-all place to get an accurate review of Sims content? After reading your responses in this thread, and a few previous responses on other threads, I would like to challenge you to give me one thing you do not like about any content that has been put out for TS4 since it’s inception! With as many bugs that have popped up and the lack of tools that MANY people have complained about, I think that your “facegroup” is a bit biased towards constant praise instead of honest reviews about new content.
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@Horrorgirl6 Thats fine. But that doesnt mean his opinion is more meaningful than the next person.
The facegroup im in has a ton of sims 4 fans in it and everyone is HAPPY Those that have a copy , that is. To me that says more than some guy on you tube
So your “facegroup” is a know-all place to get an accurate review of Sims content? After reading your responses in this thread, and a few previous responses on other threads, I would like to challenge you to give me one thing you do not like about any content that has been put out for TS4 since it’s inception! With as many bugs that have popped up and the lack of tools that MANY people have complained about, I think that your “facegroup” is a bit biased towards constant praise instead of honest reviews about new content.
Why are people allowed to post time after time about negative things or this and that but plum forbid someone actually likes the game?
What about you and your build threads? What if I challenged you to name one thing you liked. .
@Zeldaboy180 I have always respected your opinion about TS4 and I don’t understand why you keep attacking mine? As I have said many times before, everyone is entitled to their own opinion! If you have followed my threads in the past, you would know that I love the Sims and only want to see it improve for everyone! Here is one of my latest threads praising EA for the newest content added to the game.
There are things I really like about TS4, but as a veteran player, there are many things I have seen in TS4 that have regressed compared to previous versions of the game. Even with other games that EA has put out you will see progression compared to previous versions. John Madden NFL is one good example that comes to mind. So, if you need your proof of me liking something in the new content coming out, there it is!
I know you have challenged me in the past to post changes to what specific improvements I would like to see in the game, but, as a matter of fact, I have done that in several threads before. I see no reason to keep repeating myself. Please use the search option to see for yourself.
I respect your opinion, please respect mine.
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Honestly, I neither like nor dislike LGR or Deligracy's reviews. Both are on two different ends of the spectrum. You can kind of tell that both are pushing their side to the point where the content feels a little overzealous and not genuine.
IF I were to recommend someone: hit up James from the Sim Supply. Sure, he's Deligracy's friend, but he will praise and "roast" parts of the pack (Kids Room Stuff ballpit especially) that he doesn't like. His fair input is pretty respected by the Gurus, so most of the time, his complaints are usually fixed through patches and new packs.
That's what we should all be. State honest feedback and disagreement might lead to change. (obviously this may not always happen asap, because EA/Maxis are big companies that can't act right away, but they are listening!)
I enjoy LGR's reviews a lot on the sims even though he doesn't like some of the same things that I do (pets, toddlers). I've been watching his videos on Sims since the beginning of Sims 3. I was a little bit surprised that he didn't get a code, but not more surprised than when he got his first code for free. I normally have a good or great amount of information on the upcoming content (mainly the ones I find interesting) being released before watching his. His videos don't help determine my decisions to get something as I always have my mind made up already. I am looking forward to his review on The Sims 4 Pets.
Do you even have the sims 4 cats and dogs? Because the things they do in sims 4 they definitely did NOT do in 3 or 2. You don't need to baby sit your cats. The cats are just like IRL. Make sure they have food and a clean litterbox and they pretty much take care of themselves.
Dogs on the other hand are much more high maintenence, just like irl.
except that sometimes they don't sleep or eat without being ordered to.
Do you really think their youtube jobs don't pay enough that they can't afford to spare $40 every year? Why is it LGR is telling it like it is and speaking his opinion, but if it's positive then they're just always positive to get free stuff.
Are they not allowed to like the pack and express excitement?
I would believe in that excitement more if they were not sponsored by EA and spent their own cash.
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Maybe I shouldn't stir this up, but I REALLY miss Quxxn. She was an awesome person, and my favorite reviewer. She never seemed too biased or anything, she always just showed off the content and THEN put her input both good and bad. Really miss her
He literally tears them to shreds every single time. Now, i'm not saying hes wrong but why would they keep giving free stuff to someone who drags them through the dirt?
Because withholding copies from critics has the Streisand effect, making it equally as "damaging."
Sims 4's base game withheld review copies entirely. Perhaps this made them more profit in the grand scheme of things, but this was so bad it was newsworthy and all the gaming journalist websites were making sure people knew this was an unorthodox move, while people such as myself and others saw it as evidence they had no faith in the title on release.
What's worse: one reviewer saying your game stinks or review copies mysteriously disappearing from the hands of more critical reviewers to the point that people conclude the game must stink and cautiously avoid it? Both have their ups and downs, but something about withholding copies just seems more desperate and as if they want to hide something/avoid any bad press long enough to close a sale.
I don't really think it's a pedestal. It's just that they value his opinion.
It's like getting advice from your best friend on a dress. Sure it might be bias, might even be the last kind thing you want to hear (especially from your bestie lol). But you value it regardless of how you agree or disagree with , because she's being honest in how she feels (good or bad) about it and giving you a heads up.
It's not exactly that people "buy/not buy it if LGR says it's good/bad" but rather "If this pack has x issue, then i'm out." or "Wow I didn't know about that. I may have to get this". and lets be honest (I'm talking about the sims in general), I think everyone has a bit of a "dealbreaker" and a "must have" scenario at some point in this series, I mean look at how some simmers feel about a laundry stuff pack or buggy things in the game, or how the sims 2 and 3 are talked about.
LGR just points out the pros and cons in the ways he sees it. Which is good for many simmers so they know the pros and cons that help them in their decision. Not everyone wants to dive into a pack head first (after doing such for 4 iterations..I'm wising up
Maybe that's just how I see it though lol. But I guess from one simmer to another, I get it.
And that's what I always thought about LGR until TS4.
IMO the review style disagreements are more about the delivery than the content.
To me, the cheerleading can go over the top and come across like a politician kissing babies after a speech.
Then again, if EA/Maxis belonged to me I wouldn't give LGR a free copy either.
I don't think anything in this iteration of the game will truly be to his liking.
Why beat a dead horse?
It's like begging someone to go out with you after they've told you "no".
I agree that they likely have not much faith in this latest release, unless you've experienced previous sims pet expansions, you're not going to know what you are missing and what you are gaining. It's lack luster and filled with bugs. however it all comes down to it being their choice in who they want to give PR items to.
In the beauty guru community on youtube people are kicked off of lists all the time, thats how it is. It's the same with this. His opinions are rarely good, they know this for sure now, so why invest the time and money into it.
I totally agree with this. My sims 2 dog came home from the pet shop and destroyed the couch straight away, my sims 2 cats jump on the counters and eat food. My sims 3 dog in my current house brings the newspaper in every day, sometimes if no one picks it up he chews it to bits. My sim went to work and he dug up the yard and the neighbours. My sims 3 cat destroyed her cat condo, refuses to use her cat litter when it’s dirty and follows her family from room to room.
This pack was bough for me as a surprise gift and I feel bad feeling this way about it. There are some things I enjoy about it but I really despise not being able to view my pets needs/skills and relationship panel. I see no excuse for it. Can’t call the realism card when this is a game with vampires and aliens, pets wearing clothes and kids skipping school to hang out in clubs.
Its one thing to say just watch your pet and they tell you what they need but I disagree. I made a aloof, glutton lazy cat and a vocal, friendly and frisky cat. Both of them NEVER stop meowing. I expect it to a degree from a vocal cat but as the owner of s real life “vocal” cat I beg to differ, the breed in question is not vocal to the point they never shut up. The strangest thing is the aloof cat is more vocal. They keep waking my sims up. They always have a full bowl of food and according to their portraits they are “fine” but I beg to differ. My sims are having to spend all their time interacting with them and if they go to work the cats needs tank into red for a simple shift. So is the alternative they come everywhere from now on?
For the first time ever in the history of the entire series one of my pets ran away. Why? I have no idea. His mood was fine. Apparently. I genuinely have no idea why the cat ran away. He had food, company, access to the outside and comfy bed inside.
It’s not realistic in any way to not view how a pet feels about another pet, if a pet is feeling neglected or whatever. It’s especially not realistic to not know what behaviours your pets have learned. I,e say you teach your car to stop going through the trash. There’s no record of this I’m gsme that I can see.
I agree it’s good the pets act rather than just get a moodlet. But I really wish for the ability to view their needs and relationships and skills. I don’t understand why a vital thing has been left out.
I can’t say I’ve noticed a huge difference in their behaviours vs the previous versions. My sims 3 cats can sit on laps, haven’t seen that in 4,the hug interaction is identical to the sims 3, pets can go through the trash cans in previous versions, they can roll in dirty puddles and drink from dirty puddles in previous versions. Previous versions pets could run away particularly after a trumatic event. Cats and dogs could socialise and nuzzle each other in previous versions, it’s still here in the sims 4. I like many of the animations in the sims 4, some are very cute but I think the only new thing is cats going on fridges.
I don’t mind not having control but it bothers me way more than I thought it would that I can’t see the pets needs or anything relating to them. In one house with 3 pets my sims loves revolved around the pets because they were constantly unhappy even thoug their emotion said “fine” I love pets in game but pets shouldn’t be the focus of a house to the point it’s to the detriment of the sims living there. I’m playing sims not Petz. It’s not realistic that my sims can’t go to work because their cats needs will tank and there’s no clear indication of what’s going on when all their basic needs are met. And I’m left watching the pets all the time trying to work out why my aloof cat is howling and keeping the house awake.
I agree. I think he's pretty bias, I mean it's clear he doesn't like the game at all no matter what it offers and is just doing it for a "job". It's fine if he generally just doesn't like something, it's great, because I do like hearing what others dislike as much as they like.
With a Simmer like Deligracy, yeah she does genuine love the Sims BUT I've watched videos where she discusses her disappointment with something or "missed opportunities" or just things she really doesn't like about the game or a certain pack. She's just not as harsh when she does this. But her criticism gets dismissed because people see the Sims team giving her early access and think "oh, she HAS to say good stuff." Lmao no she doesn't and certainly hasn't praised them all the time.
The different criticisms from the two Simmers is what I find amusing, though and why I watch both. He seems to see the game as a huge chore and just generally does not want to be around it, but is making reviews for the sake of his "job". Whereas, she's usually pretty excited and curious to see what's new, like opening presents haha and when she's disappointed she doesn't drone on and nit pick about it but she lets you know and moves on.
Not everything he says is negative -- he actually praised the in-depth nature of the vampire pack even though he's not into playing supernaturals, but he really was impressed with the toddler patch.
Fun must be always -- Tomas Hertl (San Jose Sharks hockey player)
YH,i dont understand why peopke say he is negative.Even with the things he didn;t likwe . He still says there well done
To me that's not a good excuse. Be negative if you want. Rip the packs to shreds. But being constructive or at least explaining your frustrations is lesson number one for a reviewer.
They are a business, they don't owe anyone a free game or an early copy.
Saying "not to be rude", then blatently being rude does not excuse rude behavior.
He's essentially using the kind of format you might use to make a quick review of a book or movie. But this format has never worked for video games because games (particularly the big budget ones that draw the most reviewer attention) are only increasingly complex in scope and detail, so it's just impractical to attempt to boil down their entire essence into a 5-10 minute review, after having put in a few hours of gameplay.
I like the format I've seen Jim Sterling using for games (and I think there are others like him doing this). They'll essentially make a "first impressions" review, where they are reviewing based on their first impressions of the game. Then sometimes they'll do a second review some time later, finishing up their impressions and doubling down on certain opinions, or changing up things that their mindset changed on.
I feel this gives a more accurate picture to the audience overall and it's helpful to the reviewer too, in a way, since they have an excuse to make a second video about the same topic and get more views on it.
But see, I don't know if LGR could actually do that with the sims, as the way he's talked in some of his reviews, it sounds like he pretty much logs into the sims around pack release time to make a review and then logs out again. So how would he do that kind of format if he's so disinterested that he can't bring myself to play it for fun in the first place.
IF I were to recommend someone: hit up James from the Sim Supply. Sure, he's Deligracy's friend, but he will praise and "roast" parts of the pack (Kids Room Stuff ballpit especially) that he doesn't like. His fair input is pretty respected by the Gurus, so most of the time, his complaints are usually fixed through patches and new packs.
That's what we should all be. State honest feedback and disagreement might lead to change. (obviously this may not always happen asap, because EA/Maxis are big companies that can't act right away, but they are listening!)
So your “facegroup” is a know-all place to get an accurate review of Sims content? After reading your responses in this thread, and a few previous responses on other threads, I would like to challenge you to give me one thing you do not like about any content that has been put out for TS4 since it’s inception! With as many bugs that have popped up and the lack of tools that MANY people have complained about, I think that your “facegroup” is a bit biased towards constant praise instead of honest reviews about new content.
"If you build it, they will come." - Movie: Field of Dreams
Why are people allowed to post time after time about negative things or this and that but plum forbid someone actually likes the game?
What about you and your build threads? What if I challenged you to name one thing you liked. .
Why does it matter either way?
http://forums.thesims.com/en_US/discussion/928113/thank-you-ea-maxis-for-adding-to-build-mode#latest
There are things I really like about TS4, but as a veteran player, there are many things I have seen in TS4 that have regressed compared to previous versions of the game. Even with other games that EA has put out you will see progression compared to previous versions. John Madden NFL is one good example that comes to mind. So, if you need your proof of me liking something in the new content coming out, there it is!
I know you have challenged me in the past to post changes to what specific improvements I would like to see in the game, but, as a matter of fact, I have done that in several threads before. I see no reason to keep repeating myself. Please use the search option to see for yourself.
I respect your opinion, please respect mine.
"If you build it, they will come." - Movie: Field of Dreams
I LOVE James's feedback on the ball pit. Especially that video he made when the patch improved it.
Race Against the Clock: Can your elder sim turn back the clock before their time runs out?
except that sometimes they don't sleep or eat without being ordered to.
I would believe in that excitement more if they were not sponsored by EA and spent their own cash.