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    PyrondonPyrondon Posts: 159 Member

    WTH? lol

    The Sims Online was EXACTLY about game play objective both personal and as a group.
    You own a lot and the group objective is to get that lot into the top 10 list and if ranked Number One! Bravo!
    Because that took a LOT of real life skill in RL socialising and many many hours running the lot and managing your staff who were also real people.

    Perhaps people who are against the concept have spent too much time talking to imaginary NPCs all these years that the thought of making conversation with a real person is all too much for them (?)

    The gist of TSO was this:

    There was a list of 100 houses from various skill genres, Charisma, Cooking (Pizza Making) Creativity (Music) Physical (Weights etc) and the rest of skills which I cannot recall.

    There was more than 100 houses per skill or genre only the top 100 were listed and this was based on the amount of visits from other players and how long the visitors hung out at your lot. This pushed your house further up the list.
    In turn the houses/lots at the top of the list got the most visitors as the more people that were gathered and skilling the faster your sim skilled up in that particular skill.

    The higher up your skill the more perks and rewards your Sim got such as items of clothing, furniture, rare pets etc

    It was a LOT of fun and the social aspect was revolutionary. It was the first time I ever spoke to people from other counties and whilst there may have been anti social behaviour, it was no worse or better than that we see online at Facebook, YouTube, Twitter or indeed any multi player game such as WOW only just like any online MMO if someone reports you for breaching rules and the TOS you face being suspended or banned.

    I met and spoke to a lot of people from all over the world and had lots of laughter and fun but at the same time also following the game play objective. It was "because" there was a common shared goal and objective that made talking to strangers easy and not awkward.

    I had a "newbie" house which helped noobs. They would refresh their needs at the noob houses and ask questions and not feel intimidated by more seasoned game players as they found their feet. You named your house/lot what you wanted. Mine was UK Newbies R US which encouraged other British people to pay a visit and rent a bed. Other lots were named all kinds of things mostly relating to the nationality of the lot owner and/or the skill that lot focused on.
    You also had the ability to create art on your lot roof so that when people went to the MAP view they might see national Maps or names of the lot or cartoon art etc, a skill in itself and one that people paid other "simmers" to do for them.

    You would have "staff" (Other players) that had build and move rights and the ability to allow visitors or eject visitors, ban certain people etc they also ran the lot in your absence as if your lot was offline due to you not being there to open it and play hostess or host (Important if you want returning visitors) then your lot moved down the list as it was all about volume of visitors and hours visitors stayed at the lot. So keeping the atmosphere funny and entertaining was vital and a huge part of that was actually talking to people and playing games such as trivia and offering prizes etc

    All this talk of "creepy offensive conversations" is over the top.

    You have PLENTY of options to deal with this such as:
    1) Mute or Block said sim/person from contacting or communicating with your sim
    2) Report the person
    3) Ask the lot owner to eject and ban
    Of course you grew to know the lots that had a reputation for clean game play and those that didn't. Or you could run your own lot and set your own rules ALL of which were displayed at the loading screen when you waited to enter a particular lot.

    There was never kids in The Sims Online and these days you are providing you age by way of payment (PayPal) so 18 would need to be the minimum age because just as in RL you will encounter things that a child should not hear but as an adult, my advise is get over it. If you dont like what you are seeing in a chat bubble, leave and go to another lot. Complain to the lot owner or make an official complaint but stop whining over what may or may not happen if the Sims was to go online. No one would force you to play.

    TSO is actually where I met my current spouse whom I have been with since that time 2002

    They stopped adding new content and new objectives and people got bored. The graphics grew old as new online social based games were released such as There.com and Secondlife.com and they eventually pulled the plug on it.

    I miss it. I am bored with playing with AI and NPCs. It's hollow and empty and kind of creepy to me.

    I bought Sims 4 and all the previous releases and now 12 years on from The Sims 1, I am bored.
    Nothing would ignite my interest in playing this game again other than the ability to REALLY talk to ACTUAL people.

    Why anyone in this day and age would find that weird is beyond me. We have dozens of social media websites we all chat to strangers on and dozens of games that offer the same.

    The sims to me would be the perfect platform to reintroduce a more sophisticated way of interacting with real people from all over the world.

    But make it an option not compulsory so people had a choice.

    I am baffled and slightly creeped out watching grown up adults who prefer to play "Dolls Houses" or "Mommies and Daddies' with their imaginary friends complete with imaginary backstories... Seriously? That's not considered weird but talking to real players with real life stories is (?)
    The original point still stands, the game was a failure. There is data to back that up, if I remember correctly.
    I'm not against them trying again, but I'd prefer that they focus on TS4.

    Also, that last part,
    I am baffled and slightly creeped out watching grown up adults who prefer to play "Dolls Houses" or "Mommies and Daddies' with their imaginary friends complete with imaginary backstories... Seriously? That's not considered weird but talking to real players with real life stories is (?)

    was rude and completely unnecessary. Different people enjoy different things, there's no need to try to insult anyone.
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    roseenglishroseenglish Posts: 71 Member
    > @Pyrondon said:
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    > The original point still stands, the game was a failure. There is data to back that up, if I remember correctly.
    > I'm not against them trying again, but I'd prefer that they focus on TS4.
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    > Also, that last part,
    > roseenglish wrote: ยป
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    > I am baffled and slightly creeped out watching grown up adults who prefer to play "Dolls Houses" or "Mommies and Daddies' with their imaginary friends complete with imaginary backstories... Seriously? That's not considered weird but talking to real players with real life stories is (?)
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    > was rude and completely unnecessary. Different people enjoy different things, there's no need to try to insult anyone.


    I was not responding to you nor did I quote you so I fail to see why you are responding to me and giving me the care bear routine.
    People in this thread are passionate about their reasons for NOT having an online version and recite their experiences of how "creepy" they found TSO and in turn, I am responding to them (not you) in an equal amount of passion by reciting my experiences and my definition of "creepy"

    Did you feel I was in somehow referring that you personally were creepy ?

    Not sure how or why, but sorry for what it's worth. I have no idea who you are or what your opinions are on this subject. I actually only read the first 2 pages of "shock horror No No No!" posts on the subject of Sims 4 becoming an online option.
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    PyrondonPyrondon Posts: 159 Member

    I was not responding to you nor did I quote you so I fail to see why you are responding to me and giving me the care bear routine.
    People in this thread are passionate about their reasons for NOT having an online version and recite their experiences of how "creepy" they found TSO and in turn, I am responding to them (not you) in an equal amount of passion by reciting my experiences and my definition of "creepy"

    Did you feel I was in somehow referring that you personally were creepy ?

    Not sure how or why, but sorry for what it's worth. I have no idea who you are or what your opinions are on this subject. I actually only read the first 2 pages of "shock horror No No No!" posts on the subject of Sims 4 becoming an online option.

    I never stated that you were responding to me. It's a forum. In this forum there are multiple people. I am one of those people.
    I don't know what you mean by "the care bear routine", I was just stating that it was unnecessary. I never implied that you said I personally am creepy, but your statements implied that I, and everyone who likes to make up stories for their sims, are.

    People finding TSO "creepy" did not have to do with the actual content of the game. In basically any online game, there are going to be creepy people, so that's actually a pretty terrible argument for why there shouldn't be a new online game. While I agree that the argument is poor, as obviously you're going to run into some "creepy" people, you were still being rude in your comment, and it was a poor counterargument.

    Sorry that my replying to you apparently offended you, since evidently everyone else here can only speak when spoken to by you.
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    TarruviTarruvi Posts: 1,227 Member
    No, I cringe in the face of Online Crashes and losing all my hard work.
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    roseenglishroseenglish Posts: 71 Member
    > @Pyrondon said:
    > roseenglish wrote: ยป
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    > I was not responding to you nor did I quote you so I fail to see why you are responding to me and giving me the care bear routine.
    > People in this thread are passionate about their reasons for NOT having an online version and recite their experiences of how "creepy" they found TSO and in turn, I am responding to them (not you) in an equal amount of passion by reciting my experiences and my definition of "creepy"
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    > Did you feel I was in somehow referring that you personally were creepy ?
    >
    > Not sure how or why, but sorry for what it's worth. I have no idea who you are or what your opinions are on this subject. I actually only read the first 2 pages of "shock horror No No No!" posts on the subject of Sims 4 becoming an online option.
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    > I never stated that you were responding to me. It's a forum. In this forum there are multiple people. I am one of those people.
    > I don't know what you mean by "the care bear routine", I was just stating that it was unnecessary. I never implied that you said I personally am creepy, but your statements implied that I, and everyone who likes to make up stories for their sims, are.
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    > People finding TSO "creepy" did not have to do with the actual content of the game. In basically any online game, there are going to be creepy people, so that's actually a pretty terrible argument for why there shouldn't be a new online game. While I agree that the argument is poor, as obviously you're going to run into some "creepy" people, you were still being rude in your comment, and it was a poor counterargument.
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    > Sorry that my replying to you apparently offended you, since evidently everyone else here can only speak when spoken to by you.


    Erm?...Happy New Year!
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    luthienrisingluthienrising Posts: 37,628 Member
    I'd love to play a Sims game online with a select friend or two the way my son gets to play his games with his friends. Technically, I'm fairly certain it would have to be separate from the main game not an expansion of it. And it would support mods only if it also had private server hosting. But I think it would be fun to play with some of you :). I was never interested in an MMO Sims game - I don't want to play with strangers in this kind of game.
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    PyrondonPyrondon Posts: 159 Member
    Erm?...Happy New Year!

    Lol, Happy New Year to you too! :grin:
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    RoboSpongieRoboSpongie Posts: 1,042 Member
    Only if they fix most of the gallery bugs and so then maybe multiplayer online play could be a possibility
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    TianaahoyTianaahoy Posts: 2 New Member
    Being given the option to play online would be incredible, some have mentioned the fact that houses and lots would be challenging to get, so maybe there could be a fresh new Town with empty lots for 6 people to share, what if there was a chat room where you can discuss everything, and what if our sims could text others to invite them over or go on dates?
    I do understand that there will be ups and downs for online play but not everyone has to play it... Imagine going to the clubs with your real life friends or people you've met in your game? What about going camping or being work buddies to help eachother out?
    Simcity was fun to play online because you could provide resources to the fellow players, so how cool would it be to do the same on sims 4!
    You could create your own competitions within the same town and really play with life and imagination.
    For now it is all a what if, but how great would it be if an online play really was created?
    And I mentioned having our own town because then there's no houses that people fight over, and the unplayed sims can live in their own town that we can visit and a still spend time with them.
    Get together only just came out and that game itself is to spend time with friends, so imagine creating your own club with real people?!
    And for those who disagree, look around you nearly every good rated game involves or is only an online game. This is the future, and this online feature is what sims needs to keep us indulged in the game, so let's play with life like we haven't before and become social in this life simulation game.
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    PlayerSinger2010PlayerSinger2010 Posts: 3,267 Member
    Please no!

    If I want to play with "Real people", I'll invite my friends over and they can play on my laptop like I've done in the past.
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    TianaahoyTianaahoy Posts: 2 New Member
    I've done the same in the past and it ends up being very boring for the ones who aren't controlling the single player game
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    SyphousSyphous Posts: 1 New Member
    I wouldn't mind if you can play on a LAN network with a friend or significant other. I would love to be able to play Sims with my wife. As for online play, I would rather eat a bowl of dirt than to play online with a bunch of crazy individuals with little or no respect for the game. The only way I would consider playing online is if it were designed for small groups of individuals on each map. Similar to a guild. You and about 4 friends living in the same neighborhood and sharing the same experiences. That would be worth playing.
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    ShadowzzNinjaShadowzzNinja Posts: 1 New Member
    > @katoregama said:
    > Sims 4 Online would not work. What about house building and lots? What if me and 17,000 other players all want to live in that nice empty lot next to the Calientes? And what about the lag? You know that would end up with players burning/drowing/starving/laughing to death because of lag.
    >
    > And seriously, no offense, but I want my game to be my own personal experience. I don't want other people messing that up.

    I believe that they would do it in a way similar to GTA Online, have say 20-40 people in 1 world, and that lot, everyone can buy build on and then someone will have to be invited or request to be allowed in, and places outside of residential lots were public, and they could do something cool with jobs with it too.
    And they wouldn't force it on you, it would be something to Buy and then you would have the option for online/local
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    BroutyMaxBroutyMax Posts: 1 New Member
    Did anyone play on ps2/xbox/gamecube ? We could play on coop, i don't see why this couldn't be a thing over internet connections, there are a lot of games with much more content and graphically demanding than the sims yet we can still play online without massive lag. I think this would be the best way to play online in the sims is by making a coop mode or some game modes where a few players could build their houses in the same neighbor as some suggested here and you could invite others to your house or go out together. I think the best would be a up-to 4 players coop in the same house, that would be nice with friends, i'd suggest we can't play when the others are not online so they can't get in an kill your players or move things around/messup the game.
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    ginnypinnyginnypinny Posts: 15 New Member
    I would LOVE if the TS4 was a multiplayer game. Watching streamers play Grand Theft Auto V (roleplayer servers) has made me want it so much more. I like TS4, but I get bored by myself. It would be so much fun to play with others. Just make it an option. Like, have a few servers that players can choose to play on with each other, while still keeping the regular ones - if that's possible.
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    ferngirlsferngirls Posts: 26 Member
    Hey guys i really need you to read this and make sure that the SimGurus see it!! I would like the sims 4 to have a seperate money system. There could be a setting in options asking if you want the money to be seperate for all sims or have the money as a family. If you check the first option each sim will have their own money(click on one sim and they will have their money, click on another sim and they will have theirs). If you check the second option the money will be like how it is currently. This helps because for example if you want two siblings to live together then they wont have to share money. They can make their own money and spend it how they wish. It could also make the game more realistic because you would have to click on the parents in order to buy their kids stuff. The teens would still be able to make their own money if they wish because they can get a part time job, but the parents can also buy their teens stuff. Please SimGurus i would love to see this idea in the sims 4 soon!! It should also be more simpler to incorporate into the game as well since we already have the second option. Just add the first one for me will ya?
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    Eschie93Eschie93 Posts: 3 New Member
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    I would love a multiplayer expansion. You know, SimCity was heavily dependent on it and due to that; I think that was partially the reason for it failing (also the plots were way too small..and every city after a while looked the same). Anywho, I think Maxis could really hit it out of the park if done right. By allow an expansion it would give players the chance to either have a single player or multiple player experience and it wouldn't leave any player out. You could add players through the EA ID or could search for open/closed lobbies (closed being invitation through forums or such with password) and it could really open up new storytelling and would make the Sims 4 feel like a living breathing world. Not sure what Maxis has planned, but I'm optimistic that hopefully they are listening to the fans on terms of quality and quantity.
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    NYESNYES Posts: 4 New Member
    it would be so cool with co-op mode, like in sims 3 or 4(doesnt have to be sims 4, or like a own game called The sims multiplayer or something. Like just a dlc that made it so u could play online with one friend would be amazing, ik its not supposed to be a mmo stuff like some people says, but thats not what im talking about, just co-op to play with one friend,
    people also says its supposed to be a singleplayer experience, but cmon, wouldnt it be fun playing sims with a friend? living in a house togheter etc, like it would make sense that a game like this would have a co-op mode

    Ik some people are against it, but a lot of people want it.

    And to those who are against it, does it hurt u in any way? u simply ignore it and keep playing the game as always, alone if thats what u want. simple as that, instead of crying about it saying NAH that would be a terrible idea etc. If they do it right this would be awesome.
    And if u cant see sims being a good game to play with a friend ur straight up stupid, living in the same house, having jobs building the house togheter, decorating, going places and all the other stuff u can do in the game would be so fun to do togheter with a friend,
    AND ITS JUST AN OPTION, u dont have to play co-op if they add it, u just simply then would have the option to enjoy the game with a friend.

    and if u reading this and just gonna complain about how it shouldnt be a thing,
    just shh ok.
    As i said if they would add it as a dlc or something, would that hurt you? You can ignore it and simply play the game as normal, its not a big deal. im saying thing because ive seen people complaining and crying like crazy about how a bad idea it would be, its pretty sad tbh.

    Im sry that my english is not perfect, yes, feel like i gotta say that too, or some kid is gonna be like:
    hahahahah ur english isnt as gud as a native speaking english person eksdee.

    and do u really have much to lose by making a little co-op mode ea(probably not reading this but fek it, ik ur ea, and u want the moneymoney,
    so even put a price on it if u absolutely have to, like 10dollars or something, me and i know a lot of others would still get it.
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    NYESNYES Posts: 4 New Member
    > @PlayerSinger2010 said:
    > Please no!
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    > If I want to play with "Real people", I'll invite my friends over and they can play on my laptop like I've done in the past.

    ... rly?
    ye lets play on different computers on different saves YAY SO MUCH FUN RIGHT...
    why is it a problem that a co-op mode would be added? IT DOESNT HURT U IN ANY WAY.
    u can simply ignore it and keep playing the game as normal, alone if u want to. its not a big ๐Ÿธ๐Ÿธ๐Ÿธ๐Ÿธ deal.
    instead of being such a cry baby about it, why not look at it at something good? what about all the people that would love playing a game like this togheter? its a game that fits to be a singleplayer and a awesome co-op game. so just shh
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    NYESNYES Posts: 4 New Member
    > @ShadowzzNinja said:
    > > @katoregama said:
    > > Sims 4 Online would not work. What about house building and lots? What if me and 17,000 other players all want to live in that nice empty lot next to the Calientes? And what about the lag? You know that would end up with players burning/drowing/starving/laughing to death because of lag.
    > >
    > > And seriously, no offense, but I want my game to be my own personal experience. I don't want other people messing that up.
    >
    > I believe that they would do it in a way similar to GTA Online, have say 20-40 people in 1 world, and that lot, everyone can buy build on and then someone will have to be invited or request to be allowed in, and places outside of residential lots were public, and they could do something cool with jobs with it too.
    > And they wouldn't force it on you, it would be something to Buy and then you would have the option for online/local

    WE ARE TALKING ABOUT A LITTLE CO-OP MODE WITH MAYBE A FRIEND OR 2 living in the same house or something like that,
    NOT A ๐Ÿธ๐Ÿธ๐Ÿธ๐Ÿธ MMO GAME, yes im a bit mad, because comments like this one a so ๐Ÿธ๐Ÿธ๐Ÿธ๐Ÿธ its insane.
    and why would others mess it up if it was a co-op mode in the game?
    U could simply just click singleplayer instead of co-op and keep playing the game alone if thats what u really want. instead of being against it, cant u just ๐Ÿธ๐Ÿธ๐Ÿธ๐Ÿธ support it? it would be awesome if they made it work right.
    like it doesnt hurt u in any way, u can keep playing singleplayer, no problems at all.
    simply ignore it and you can keep playing the game the way u have always done.
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    NYESNYES Posts: 4 New Member
    > @ShadowzzNinja said:
    > > @katoregama said:
    > > Sims 4 Online would not work. What about house building and lots? What if me and 17,000 other players all want to live in that nice empty lot next to the Calientes? And what about the lag? You know that would end up with players burning/drowing/starving/laughing to death because of lag.
    > >
    > > And seriously, no offense, but I want my game to be my own personal experience. I don't want other people messing that up.
    >
    > I believe that they would do it in a way similar to GTA Online, have say 20-40 people in 1 world, and that lot, everyone can buy build on and then someone will have to be invited or request to be allowed in, and places outside of residential lots were public, and they could do something cool with jobs with it too.
    > And they wouldn't force it on you, it would be something to Buy and then you would have the option for online/local

    its obviousllsslylyly like the way u say at the end we want it,
    sry for being so triggered in the other comment, just dumb that people dont want this into the game :p
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    FurkeanFurkean Posts: 177 Member
    I thought about it before when I was around 12-13 it seemed fair enough to play it online but now thinking about the idea makes me sick. The Sims franchise wouldn't have the same reputation if it was online. Online games are stressing me out everytime when I try to play one. Thus I like playing the game off of stress and have fun more, I hope they won't make such a mistake by making it online.
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    ginnypinnyginnypinny Posts: 15 New Member
    > @Furkean said:
    > I thought about it before when I was around 12-13 it seemed fair enough to play it online but now thinking about the idea makes me sick. The Sims franchise wouldn't have the same reputation if it was online. Online games are stressing me out everytime when I try to play one. Thus I like playing the game off of stress and have fun more, I hope they won't make such a mistake by making it online.

    Why not both? Have online servers as an option. That wouldn't effect your gameplay.
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    FloppyFishFloppyFish Posts: 3,881 Member
    If this were implemented correctly, it could be interesting.

    Too bad I don't know anyone IRL who plays SIms 4 xD
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    FurkeanFurkean Posts: 177 Member
    > @Furkean said:
    > I thought about it before when I was around 12-13 it seemed fair enough to play it online but now thinking about the idea makes me sick. The Sims franchise wouldn't have the same reputation if it was online. Online games are stressing me out everytime when I try to play one. Thus I like playing the game off of stress and have fun more, I hope they won't make such a mistake by making it online.

    Why not both? Have online servers as an option. That wouldn't effect your gameplay.

    That would be superb for both sides but on the realistic aspect it wouldn't have both options because having them both at the same time means more effort on the gameplay. Effort requires budget. People prefer to download the game and the packs for free instead of buying them and supporting the company yet people who does that still complain about the 'missing' features. It bugs me the most. Anyways let's get back to the point, thinking about everything they had to give up for the sake of performance from TS3 to TS4 tells me that we can never have them both.
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