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    Sims 5 is Internet-Only, Cloud-Based Subscription Game?

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    simmeroriginsimmerorigin Posts: 694 Member
    edited October 2022 in Project Rene Community Discussion
    Great analysis/speculation video from @SimmerErin "Sims 5 May REQUIRE A Subscription. Here's Why. (Cloud Gaming)"

    https://youtu.be/Le_lOQhHEXg

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    • bella_gothbella_goth Posts: 1,770 Member
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    • simmeroriginsimmerorigin Posts: 694 Member
      bella_goth wrote: »
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      I know. It's concerning. I don't want a cloud game.
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    • Lady_BalloraLady_Ballora Posts: 654 Member
      How about we stop jumping to conclusions and actaully see what Sims 5 will be like when it comes out? I highly doubt EA/Maxis wants to risk losing loyal customers with any subscrption service,unless EA/Maxis WANTS to lose money. I don't really see EA/Maxis being foolish enough to makes Sims 5 a subscription service.





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    • simmeroriginsimmerorigin Posts: 694 Member
      Lady_Ballora wrote: »
      How about we stop jumping to conclusions and actaully see what Sims 5 will be like when it comes out? I highly doubt EA/Maxis wants to risk losing loyal customers with any subscrption service,unless EA/Maxis WANTS to lose money. I don't really see EA/Maxis being foolish enough to makes Sims 5 a subscription service.
      This is a speculation thread. It's just analyzing the CEO's own statement. No one is saying it's definitive, only that it doesn't look great.

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    • bella_gothbella_goth Posts: 1,770 Member
      edited October 2022
      Lady_Ballora wrote: »
      How about we stop jumping to conclusions and actaully see what Sims 5 will be like when it comes out? I highly doubt EA/Maxis wants to risk losing loyal customers with any subscrption service,unless EA/Maxis WANTS to lose money. I don't really see EA/Maxis being foolish enough to makes Sims 5 a subscription service.





      it's not about jumping to conclusions, we are just letting ea know that we don't want this in case they consider it.
      hopefully more people think the same
    • friendlysimmersfriendlysimmers Posts: 7,407 Member
      edited October 2022
      simmerorigin wrote: »
      Great analysis/speculation video from @SimmerErin "Sims 5 May REQUIRE A Subscription. Here's Why. (Cloud Gaming)"

      https://youtu.be/Le_lOQhHEXg

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      i hope this is a mistake and that sims 5 will not be subscription base because there no way i went to pay for a subcription as well as paying full price for the sims5 no to a subcription service in the sims5 if i went a cloud type game might as well play an ipad game
      If you went the sims5 to remain offline feel free to sign this petition http://chng.it/gtfHPhHK please note that it is also to keep the gallery



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    • SERVERFRASERVERFRA Posts: 6,429 Member
      They can have it. I'll stick to my Sims 3, Sims 4 & Civilization VI. Plus, when I can afford it, Disney Dreamlight Valley. I prefer to choose to play other online or offline.
    • logionlogion Posts: 4,546 Member
      edited October 2022
      Cloud gaming generally refers to making use of servers to stream a game to a device, also called game streaming.

      Cross-Platform is a general term for being able to run the same software like game on multiple devices. In gaming it is often mentioned when they are enabling players to play a multiplayer game together on different devices, like a PS5 and a PC.

      If Project Rene would be making use of Cloud gaming, there would be no point in making it cross-platform. You would just be able to stream the game on whatever device you would like.

    • Cabelle1863Cabelle1863 Posts: 2,228 Member
      If they go the route of a subscription only basis, I won't be buying. I know other games have done well with that but I'm just not interested (and I don't play any of those games). I'm not interested in "social interaction or competition" either. I'd just like them to make a life simulation sandbox game and leave me be to play it.
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    • EricasFreePlayEricasFreePlay Posts: 845 Member
      I watched this video on YouTube when she posted it. In my reply to this video, I already said I will not be buying this if it is a cloud game only. There are games that are being released soon that are doing this so I know I am not interested. I guess Sims 4 will be the last game I will be playing.
    • Ray_TraceRay_Trace Posts: 505 Member
      SimCity was a complete disaster at launch because of its online only requirement. A cloud-based game would be like, 10x worse. Heck, Square Enix made a Kingdom Hearts cloud-based game on the Switch. It's a disaster.
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    • Lady_BalloraLady_Ballora Posts: 654 Member
      Ray_Trace wrote: »
      SimCity was a complete disaster at launch because of its online only requirement. A cloud-based game would be like, 10x worse. Heck, Square Enix made a Kingdom Hearts cloud-based game on the Switch. It's a disaster.



      And that's the reason why EA/Maxis wouldn't make the same stupid mistake twice. They know that a subscription would kill the entire Sims franchise,and they're not going to risk losing all their loyal customers and trillions of dollars on implementing a pointless subscription-based game.



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    • Horrorgirl6Horrorgirl6 Posts: 2,766 Member
      I think people are jumping conclusions here.At the summit they said multiplayer would be optional? Implying there is a single player mode.They said the game cross platform not cloud base gaming.
    • LeGardePourpreLeGardePourpre Posts: 14,528 Member
      edited October 2022
      Internet-only like The Sims FreePlay and The Sims Mobile. Project Rene is also a mobile game.

      Cloud-based like SimCity (2013). It's probably a requirement for multiplayer mode but it could also simplify the life of console/mobile players, it removes all the download time and the huge data storage. TS4 game with all the packs use 60 GB.

      Subscription like online games but it's usually optional.
      For example SWTOR, the EP are free for the members and are paid content for the non-members.


      Cons : Maintenance, server updates and server issues including ISP issues mean you can't play to the game during several hours.
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    • SheriSim57SheriSim57 Posts: 6,337 Member
      edited October 2022
      I was just listening to a YouTuber talking about how she thinks the sims 5 is going to be cross platform, a cloud game and most likely will be a subscription service. I sure hope not. I don’t mind buying Deluxe content,……. But I don’t like the idea of not actually owning the game. I sure hope they don’t go that way. I stopped playing sims FreePlay and bought the sims 4 because I wanted a game I could own and control. They had made it where you had to spend money to stop aging, or go through some big hassle to stop it. If this happens, I may decide not to get it. That is too bad too because I was so looking forward to the sims 5 coming out in a few years.

      So what do you all think the sims 5 is going to be? And do you like the idea?
    • MoonCrossWarrior22MoonCrossWarrior22 Posts: 703 Member
      edited October 2022
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      Sorry, but I don't want to go to the clown (cloud) district today.

      I also noticed the God Hermes is trolling us today due to the weird jester activity that has been going on lately...
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    • LeGardePourpreLeGardePourpre Posts: 14,528 Member
      Now I understand better the partnership with Overwolf.

      It could become a reliable source of mod/CC embedded to the game.
    • simmeroriginsimmerorigin Posts: 694 Member
      SheriSim57 wrote: »
      I was just listening to a YouTuber talking about how she thinks the sims 5 is going to be cross platform, a cloud game and most likely will be a subscription service. I sure hope not. I don’t mind buying Deluxe content,……. But I don’t like the idea of not actually owning the game. I sure hope they don’t go that way. I stopped playing sims FreePlay and bought the sims 4 because I wanted a game I could own and control. They had made it where you had to spend money to stop aging, or go through some big hassle to stop it. If this happens, I may decide not to get it. That is too bad too because I was so looking forward to the sims 5 coming out in a few years.

      So what do you all think the sims 5 is going to be? And do you like the idea?

      Yes, I think that is the YouTube video I posted in this thread. Unless it was a different Youtuber.
      He/him | Simmer since Sims 1 | Wants-based rotational player | My gameplay rules via PleasantSims | Bring back challenge and depth to the Sims: https://forums.thesims.com/en_US/discussion/comment/17959464/#Comment_17959464
    • LeGardePourpreLeGardePourpre Posts: 14,528 Member
      edited October 2022
      Subscription is also a way to reward the players who support the game month after month with exclusive bonus content.

    • simmeroriginsimmerorigin Posts: 694 Member
      LeGardePourpre wrote: »
      Subscription is also a way to reward the players who support the game month after month with bonus content.

      A subscription is complicated. I don't want an add-on subscription on top of paying for base game and packs.

      In theory, the Sims 5 (Rene) could split into free and premium like a lot of games (e.g. Runescape, Roblox).

      Free players only get the base game. Premium players subscribe and get all DLC packs and features. I know this would be very unpopular but there's precedent.

      The one pro I can think of is that all DLC EPs and features can be playtested together for superior integration and compatibility since all "premium" players would have access to all the premium content. Would help with bugs. Pack combinations don't seem to be tested right now in the Sims 4.
      He/him | Simmer since Sims 1 | Wants-based rotational player | My gameplay rules via PleasantSims | Bring back challenge and depth to the Sims: https://forums.thesims.com/en_US/discussion/comment/17959464/#Comment_17959464
    • LeGardePourpreLeGardePourpre Posts: 14,528 Member
      edited October 2022
      @simmerorigin

      SWTOR have PTS (Public Test Server Access)

      The players (only active subscription) can test the new EP months before being launched.
    • LeGardePourpreLeGardePourpre Posts: 14,528 Member
      edited October 2022
      simmerorigin wrote: »
      I don't want an add-on subscription on top of paying for base game and packs.

      If you subscribe then the packs are free in theory.

      SWTOR became free-to-play 1 year after the launch which means the players had to pay for the basegame (subscription) for the first year.

      When you cancel the subscription, you keep your packs but the new packs are paid content until you decide to subscribe again.
      Post edited by LeGardePourpre on
    • ChadSims2ChadSims2 Posts: 4,854 Member
      A subscription service is one way to completely end the Sims at that point I'm out no way am I paying monthly.
      Sims 4 went from "You Rule" to "One of the stories we want you to tell"
    • LeGardePourpreLeGardePourpre Posts: 14,528 Member
      edited October 2022
      Loading screens could also be shorter and the graphic settings set at the best quality if it's a streaming service like GeForce Now.

      I was against online games but now I appreciate it.
      It could be a very good way to do The Sims 5 if the job is done seriously.
    • LeGardePourpreLeGardePourpre Posts: 14,528 Member
      edited November 2022
      The other possible positive point :
      You don't need to pay several times for PC, Console and Mobile versions.

      The Sims 2 : PC (EA) and Mac (Aspyr), paid twice
      The Sims 3 : PC and Mac, paid once
      The Sims 4 : PC/Mac and Console, paid twice (3 times if Xbox + PlayStation)

      The Sims 5 : PC/Mac, Consoles and Mobile, paid once ?
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