We got planting in base game. We got more plants in Jungle Adventure, Island Living and a basegame overhaul of planting. We got flower arranging with Seasons along with weather and plants now being effected by seasons. We even got more plants with Realm of Magic! Enough with the farming updates already, we've had it sprinkled through lots of packs of already and I'm sick of this done to death topic! Move on to another theme Sims please!
And speaking of moving on, how many more packs are we going to keep going with the same dreary Animals theme? Bees in Seasons, a WHOLE EP on just two animals, a stuff pack just for rodents! Animals, done, done, done, enough already.
so they came out with a globilist climate change pack? must be made in california lol
Yep. On all counts. It's supposed to be set in a coastal place, so maybe we get Frisco? Saw the video and it comes across as PC propaganda. I'm all in favor of living in an environmentally responsible manner, even do it, but this is just using a 'game' as a tool for indoctrination. Not to mention not being new at all.
I hate the idea of this pack as much as the next guy, but I will never for the life of me understand why taking care of the earth is considered political.
It's not. Someone has to clean up after the trash that tourists and homeless and slobs and hoarders leave on the ground and everywhere. Places don't stay clean if no one looks out after them otherwise people would be swimming in trash at the beaches, lakes, and rivers.
I think there two movements.Yhere is clean up the earth the in political one, and than there is the political other one.
Yeah I'm confused. Environment awareness has been around for 5,000 years, so it isn't a political movement or trend. I mean I'm not a kid and have been learning about it since 3rd grade with gardening. Started cleaning up trash in first grade. Did community service to graduate from high school as a requirement. I mean if people hadn't known about it for that long, world would have been in a lot worst shape that it is now with natural disasters and all many years ago. https://www.greenpeace.org/international/story/11658/a-brief-history-of-environmentalism/
It is sad regardless of someone's background not to care about the earth they live on. Has more to do with being a good Samaritan which is a term that is thousands of years old too. Probably why there have been so many disaster movies and shows of people destroying the earth as of late which actually is a trend right now is pollution in movies. I mean if capitalism being all over the Sims 4 is what people want the game to be, well I don't want Tom Nook all over my Sims packs. There is more to life than money and fame.
Tom Nook:
“Although the world is full of suffering, it is full also of the overcoming of it.” –Helen Keller
Which bits in laundry day and tiny living were about eco living? I'm a little confused.
I guess the part that you can use the base game assets to make tiny homes? I don't know. It was a pretty modern and fancy pack using a lot of energy with objects. I mean murphy bed didn't even get a pulley option.
“Although the world is full of suffering, it is full also of the overcoming of it.” –Helen Keller
> @elanorbreton said: > Which bits in laundry day and tiny living were about eco living? I'm a little confused.
Laundry day included the option to handwash clothes and dry them on clotheslines, thus saving energy from not using a washer/dryer. Tiny livings selling point was in building smaller homes and living a more minimalist lifestyle, which is pretty eco friendly
I don't mind there being a dedicated pack for something eco-friendly-themed. The do like the theme itself. A lot of people have been asking for something like that for awhile now, too.
My concern lies in the fact that from what I've seen, and while I understand it isn't a lot yet, I feel it should've at least been a gamepack.
I honestly don't think farming should've been made alongside this. I get it, but I don't like when they multitask different features in the same pack, because one of them usually ends up botched.
I'm not big on the farming theme to begin with, but I think it would be a lot better off as its own pack.
I don't mind there being a dedicated pack for something eco-friendly-themed. The do like the theme itself. A lot of people have been asking for something like that for awhile now, too.
My concern lies in the fact that from what I've seen, and while I understand it isn't a lot yet, I feel it should've at least been a gamepack.
I honestly don't think farming should've been made alongside this. I get it, but I don't like when they multitask different features in the same pack, because one of them usually ends up botched.
I'm not big on the farming theme to begin with, but I think it would be a lot better off as its own pack.
I doubt a gamepack budget could produce a full world, a world with mechanisms for changing it, a new voting system, and multiple new gameplay objects.
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Speaking as an environmentalist, this doesn't have enough legs to stand as an entire EP. Wind turbines and solar panels? Sure. Keep those. They're useful, and something the community, by and large, has actually been asking for.
But they're really scraping the bottom of the barrel with everything else. Candle-making? Big whoop. Why not just buy them? Why should I care about making my own?
Homemade fruit juice? Not... uh... nectar? Aka wine? You know, that thing we've been asking for for years?
Giant maggots? Yeah..................... sure. Why not chickens? Again, something we've been asking for. Who cares about pet maggots?
Walls of meat? Again, why should I care? It's not like I'll be able to make a kebab shop with it. It'll sell for next to nothing in Get to Work, and in Dine Out the kebab meat won't be carved, it'll just be made at the chef's station. It's completely worthless. Or is it meant to be homemade bacon? Because... sure. That makes sense in a pack meant to appeal to my fellow environmentalists, a community that is almost universally vegan.
Community gardens? Yeah, we've already got those. In every basegame neighborhood. Why should I care that I can build them? I could already do that with a park.
Saving the environment? In the Sims, you're playing in a socialist utopia where everything runs on sustainable energy already. NOTHING BAD EVER HAPPENS IN THE SIMS 4. There's no environment to save. And anyway, we already had that in Island Living. And instead of cleaning up oil spills and saving seagulls from six-pack rings, you know, the kind of conservation that matters on an island we're picking up piles of trash buried in the sand over and over until the algae miraculously goes away. It was extremely half-baked then, I have ZERO faith that they'll make it impactful now.
It's yet another instance of The Sims 4 being a Hipster Simulator. It's too niche. We can make maybe one family out of the concept, but after that it'll get boring.
Expansion Packs are supposed to EXPAND the game. This is a one-and-done Game Pack AT BEST.
With regards to the title of the thread, I'm gonna say that no, those three packs do not satisfy any needs I have for ecology and - this does not mean you HAVE to play in a green world - they shouldn't satisfy anybody who wants to 'go green' because if they did you'd have some SERIOUSLY low standards for it. Island Living is the only pack that comes close, and that's not the focus anyway. In fact Island Living doesn't really have a focus apart its Mermaid/Hawaii theme, which kind of spoils it.
I imagine there will be players desperate to make the world as polluted and dirty as possible. And it's your world. You rule. Populate it with Indians and rename the city New New Dehli. We'll see humourous Let's Plays on it, like the guy who deliberately put water pipes downstream of sewer pipes in Cities Skylines, or those who delight in forcing their Sims to die in their own filth.
It's not something to be ashamed of, nor is it a reason to think the pack is bad, because that kind of experimentation is part of the game in The Sims. I'd be more disappointed if it wasn't a continuous thing.
Have you not seen the homes in the trailer? It has Tiny Living written all over it.
People were building tiny homes LONG before the release of Tiny Living.
If this is "enough" for eco-friendly packs, then I think we've had "enough" packs for rich people. Moschino, Get Famous, Vintage Glamour, Luxury Party.
I like that there's more of a down-and-out vibe to Eco Lifestyle, like Strangerville had. I like more stuff for normal sims to get into.
.... are you saying that Gentrification: The EP isn't targeted at rich Sims?
This is a pack about taking a poor neighborhood and making it bougie.
It's the definition of a Rich Sims Pack.
Isn't it the point of this pack? Bad things will start happening. That's why it's different from Laundry, Tiny Living and even Island Living (I don't own it, but I believe the island is already in the worst state, you can't make it even worse).
Isn't it the point of this pack? Bad things will start happening. That's why it's different from Laundry, Tiny Living and even Island Living (I don't own it, but I believe the island is already in the worst state, you can't make it even worse).
"Pay us if you want consequences in your game" - Electronic Arts
That's the issue. Yes, it adds bad stuff into your game, but it's artificial. You're stopping bad things from happening, but only if you shell out the 40 bucks that adds those bad things in the first place.
Basically, it costs real-world money to make your game "badness-free", but if you DON'T pay EA, then your game is already badness-free. So why are we paying for it?
Willow Creek already HAS blue skies. Why do I need to pay money to make its skies blue?
Isn't it the point of this pack? Bad things will start happening. That's why it's different from Laundry, Tiny Living and even Island Living (I don't own it, but I believe the island is already in the worst state, you can't make it even worse).
"Pay us if you want consequences in your game" - Electronic Arts
That's the issue. Yes, it adds bad stuff into your game, but it's artificial. You're stopping bad things from happening, but only if you shell out the 40 bucks that adds those bad things in the first place.
Yeah, but it has always been like that, not only in TS4. We pay for weather, for pets, for family gameplay. It's how DLCs work (quality and price of those DLCs is another question).
Basically, it costs real-world money to make your game "badness-free", but if you DON'T pay EA, then your game is already badness-free. So why are we paying for it?
Willow Creek already HAS blue skies. Why do I need to pay money to make its skies blue?
You don't need to if you don't like the concept? I like it, I'm gonna play with it a lot. 90% of my gameplay starts as rags to riches, so living in a bad miserable world suits it. Yes, this pack isn't for everyone, maybe it's niche, but I know a lot of people who are also tired of perfect suburbs and want something different.
Isn't it the point of this pack? Bad things will start happening. That's why it's different from Laundry, Tiny Living and even Island Living (I don't own it, but I believe the island is already in the worst state, you can't make it even worse).
"Pay us if you want consequences in your game" - Electronic Arts
That's the issue. Yes, it adds bad stuff into your game, but it's artificial. You're stopping bad things from happening, but only if you shell out the 40 bucks that adds those bad things in the first place.
Yeah, but it has always been like that, not only in TS4. We pay for weather, for pets, for family gameplay. It's how DLCs work (quality and price of those DLCs is another question).
Basically, it costs real-world money to make your game "badness-free", but if you DON'T pay EA, then your game is already badness-free. So why are we paying for it?
Willow Creek already HAS blue skies. Why do I need to pay money to make its skies blue?
You don't need to if you don't like the concept? I like it, I'm gonna play with it a lot. 90% of my gameplay starts as rags to riches, so living in a bad miserable world suits it. Yes, this pack isn't for everyone, maybe it's niche, but I know a lot of people who are also tired of perfect suburbs and want something different.
Weather is not difficulty. Family gameplay is not difficulty. Pets are not difficulty. Those are additional ways to play the game.
This pack's entire goal is to get your worlds back to the state they would be in without buying the pack. It's presented as a challenge to overcome.
As for "if you don't like it, don't buy it," what you're saying to me is to sit down, shut up, and stop voicing dissent. I am SICK TO DEATH of that attitude, people trying to silence anybody who disagrees with them.
I'm NOT buying the pack. But if you get to praise it, then I get to complain. Deal with it.
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And speaking of moving on, how many more packs are we going to keep going with the same dreary Animals theme? Bees in Seasons, a WHOLE EP on just two animals, a stuff pack just for rodents! Animals, done, done, done, enough already.
See how this works.
https://www.greenpeace.org/international/story/11658/a-brief-history-of-environmentalism/
It is sad regardless of someone's background not to care about the earth they live on. Has more to do with being a good Samaritan which is a term that is thousands of years old too. Probably why there have been so many disaster movies and shows of people destroying the earth as of late which actually is a trend right now is pollution in movies. I mean if capitalism being all over the Sims 4 is what people want the game to be, well I don't want Tom Nook all over my Sims packs. There is more to life than money and fame.
Tom Nook:
> Which bits in laundry day and tiny living were about eco living? I'm a little confused.
Laundry day included the option to handwash clothes and dry them on clotheslines, thus saving energy from not using a washer/dryer. Tiny livings selling point was in building smaller homes and living a more minimalist lifestyle, which is pretty eco friendly
Waiting on Sims 4 to fully reach its potential at this point, kinda seems pointless. *shrugs*
I want news too..I am more than ready to move on.
https://realsport101.com/sims/the-sims-5-ea-play-to-reveal-new-details-on-the-upcoming-game-release-date-online-features-graphics/
Sorry just don't want to get any hopes up and then it not being true, so keeping it speculation.
Oh I secretly hope so, but if they don't I can wait longer if I have to..but I won't be exactly happy xD
This world is unique I don't plan to change it.
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The Sims 4 General DiscussionMy concern lies in the fact that from what I've seen, and while I understand it isn't a lot yet, I feel it should've at least been a gamepack.
I honestly don't think farming should've been made alongside this. I get it, but I don't like when they multitask different features in the same pack, because one of them usually ends up botched.
I'm not big on the farming theme to begin with, but I think it would be a lot better off as its own pack.
I doubt a gamepack budget could produce a full world, a world with mechanisms for changing it, a new voting system, and multiple new gameplay objects.
I feel like I am the only one who liked the Katy Perry Sweet Treats lol!
I would have like it to but they don't sell it any more @KaeChan2089
But they're really scraping the bottom of the barrel with everything else. Candle-making? Big whoop. Why not just buy them? Why should I care about making my own?
Homemade fruit juice? Not... uh... nectar? Aka wine? You know, that thing we've been asking for for years?
Giant maggots? Yeah..................... sure. Why not chickens? Again, something we've been asking for. Who cares about pet maggots?
Walls of meat? Again, why should I care? It's not like I'll be able to make a kebab shop with it. It'll sell for next to nothing in Get to Work, and in Dine Out the kebab meat won't be carved, it'll just be made at the chef's station. It's completely worthless. Or is it meant to be homemade bacon? Because... sure. That makes sense in a pack meant to appeal to my fellow environmentalists, a community that is almost universally vegan.
Community gardens? Yeah, we've already got those. In every basegame neighborhood. Why should I care that I can build them? I could already do that with a park.
Saving the environment? In the Sims, you're playing in a socialist utopia where everything runs on sustainable energy already. NOTHING BAD EVER HAPPENS IN THE SIMS 4. There's no environment to save. And anyway, we already had that in Island Living. And instead of cleaning up oil spills and saving seagulls from six-pack rings, you know, the kind of conservation that matters on an island we're picking up piles of trash buried in the sand over and over until the algae miraculously goes away. It was extremely half-baked then, I have ZERO faith that they'll make it impactful now.
It's yet another instance of The Sims 4 being a Hipster Simulator. It's too niche. We can make maybe one family out of the concept, but after that it'll get boring.
Expansion Packs are supposed to EXPAND the game. This is a one-and-done Game Pack AT BEST.
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http://forums.thesims.com/en_US/discussion/924539/features-that-needs-depth-and-ways-to-improve
.... are you saying that Gentrification: The EP isn't targeted at rich Sims?
This is a pack about taking a poor neighborhood and making it bougie.
It's the definition of a Rich Sims Pack.
"Pay us if you want consequences in your game" - Electronic Arts
That's the issue. Yes, it adds bad stuff into your game, but it's artificial. You're stopping bad things from happening, but only if you shell out the 40 bucks that adds those bad things in the first place.
Basically, it costs real-world money to make your game "badness-free", but if you DON'T pay EA, then your game is already badness-free. So why are we paying for it?
Willow Creek already HAS blue skies. Why do I need to pay money to make its skies blue?
Yeah, but it has always been like that, not only in TS4. We pay for weather, for pets, for family gameplay. It's how DLCs work (quality and price of those DLCs is another question).
You don't need to if you don't like the concept? I like it, I'm gonna play with it a lot. 90% of my gameplay starts as rags to riches, so living in a bad miserable world suits it. Yes, this pack isn't for everyone, maybe it's niche, but I know a lot of people who are also tired of perfect suburbs and want something different.
Weather is not difficulty. Family gameplay is not difficulty. Pets are not difficulty. Those are additional ways to play the game.
This pack's entire goal is to get your worlds back to the state they would be in without buying the pack. It's presented as a challenge to overcome.
As for "if you don't like it, don't buy it," what you're saying to me is to sit down, shut up, and stop voicing dissent. I am SICK TO DEATH of that attitude, people trying to silence anybody who disagrees with them.
I'm NOT buying the pack. But if you get to praise it, then I get to complain. Deal with it.
It was good for a kids room or if you played as a Singer as there were a lot of weird and wacky outfits for those types of sims.