Phones are fast becoming a mini PC and not to many want this huge thing sitting in there living room when they can have something that goes in there pocket. Sadly the Sims are headed the same as vinyl records.
The great irony is that mobile phone games look like the came out during the era of vinyl records. I guess it's consoles that are killing the pc market. But if Sims 4 is the way they planned on heading with it's reduction in quality and quantity it's probably better that Sims PC ends on this sour note.
I bounced back and forth with this for a while but ultimately I think my answer is yes. With the lack of news, push for Sims Mobile, and the departure of quite a few gurus this year, TS4 feels like it's on unsteady ground. The rumors running around right now are also disconcerting.
after cats & dogs we had a big increase in the number of players. There will be no cancellation of the main series. News are coming! In fact, the sims mobile reached the 10 million download mark in the play store very fast. We already had a period of lack of information and the departure of Daniel from the team only made us worried, but the reality is that before his exit, the team had other stuffs in progress. Just wait for the news.
The game is not made by a single developer, it is by a team. Everyone who has worked with daniel has learned a lot about how he sees the game and how it does things. So just wait for the news.
after cats & dogs we had a big increase in the number of players. There will be no cancellation of the main series. News are coming! In fact, the sims mobile reached the 10 million download mark in the play store very fast. We already had a period of lack of information and the departure of Daniel from the team only made us worried, but the reality is that before his exit, the team had other stuffs in progress. Just wait for the news.
The game is not made by a single developer, it is by a team. Everyone who has worked with daniel has learned a lot about how he sees the game and how it does things. So just wait for the news.
More than one developer have been layed off. And according to news sources many developers are moving into the mobile division.
Also I don't think Cats and Dogs increased the number of players, the console release did, but those numbers were never truly specified by EA. Many people that own TS4 on pc also bought it on console so new players is relative.
Phones are fast becoming a mini PC and not to many want this huge thing sitting in there living room when they can have something that goes in there pocket. Sadly the Sims are headed the same as vinyl records.
The great irony is that mobile phone games look like the came out during the era of vinyl records. I guess it's consoles that are killing the pc market. But if Sims 4 is the way they planned on heading with it's reduction in quality and quantity it's probably better that Sims PC ends on this sour note.
Not at all - I play x-box games on my pc -Microsoft made that possible. I can also play mobiles games on it - but I do not care for mobile games even though I have a few on my pc for young relatives that come to visit. The little ones like mobile games. I have my pc set though so no one but me can buy anything on my pc - so no micro-transitions are allowed for them. - I don't buy devices of any kind - I have no need - all I need is my pc and top of the line internet. I do own a flip phone for the very rare instances I have to go out of my house -it's such an ordeal just to do that - but I just carry a flip phone in case of emergency. I will never buy any tablet or any other portable device when my pc can do it all. I can even read e-books on it - if I want but I still like to read and buy real books - so no point - but I do have the software.
Funny my 9 year old nephew was annoyed my pc plays his fave mobile game way better than his expensive Smart phone does. On top of it he can see his game full screen with no distortion and doesn't have to squirt or get neck or finger pain.
Tell me again why I would want anything else or why pc is not the way we should be going. I mean think of it my neighbors son stood in line waiting for the newest x-box to play his new game - and I could already play the game with out even leaving my house.
But I still prefer PC games over any other game - and if I get the choice between console or pc - I will always go with pc.
Besides that new X-box doesn't hold a candle to my pc....
But The Sims pc is still my fav game.... I just can't imagine it ending...
I do not believe Sims mobile will work on pc - but even if it does - not interested. It's like Sims social - horrible idea.
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To attempt to bring a modicum of reason to the frenzied discourse, it has yet to be seen what the layoffs will mean in this situation. What we are seeing here is the reality of AAA game development. These poor souls are milked for what they are worth and then cast off after spending countless nights sleeping under their desks during crunch time. That someone has been with a studio for 20 years is an outlier, and not representative of reality.
The Sims 4 is, by EA's own admission, making money hand-over-fist. But cutting staff has been the publisher's MO even in success. I do not see an end to The Sims 4 anytime soon, nor an end to The Sims series. While I do suspect that mobile will be the future, I do forsee a Seasons EP this year. Perhaps even a University pack on the horizon. How much else is dubious.
Regardless, the market will sort things in the end. It did with the case of city builders, and I suspect the same going forward.
The Sims franchise is too valuable for even the short-sighted EA to give up on it on multiple consoles. Now, it doesn't mean we'll get a glorious Sim 5 where each one of our complaints were listened, more likely the opposite. They'll hold on to their cow and milk the life out of it until there is no doubt it's dead.
Get ready for spin-offs and half-baked money-grabbers using The Sims™ to promote it. It's already on course.
Yes I think this is the beginning of the end... Sims can sell well but its not the revenue driver... People spend hundreds of dollars on FIFA, Nba and star wars is profiable too, both pc and mobile versions... Sims is just one more game for them.. The developers must feel frustrated due budget cuts.. I mean its like... make a cake with eggs only... and make it profitable...
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1: I had a bad feeling back when I was reading that funding was being channeled to the Star Wars game, from the proceeds of SIMS4 sales. Seemed to me that the corporate office saw this franchise as a guaranteed source of revenue, and that they assumed that the customers were so stupid that they'd accept any pile of garbage they produced under the Sims name.... sadly, they were right.
2: Sims 4 became part of the Mobile division, which in my opinion was the first shot at wounding the franchise.
As far as the whole mobile thing goes, count me out. It may be the trend, it may be great for a quick profit, but it isn't quality, it doesn't have depth, and it has no soul. Not to mention that it's a cheap money grabbing maneuver.
3: LAYING OFF SENIOR SIM GURU'S .....this is the kiss of death to the franchise. These people had the creative vision and skill to guide this franchise for MANY YEARS...and to me they ARE THE SIMS.... IF what is posted on Reddit is true, it's over. I'm not a fan of other EA/MAXIS games...so if the Sims that I've loved for nearly twenty years is finished, then I'm finished with them. ( Not that EA/Maxis will care...nope not after the hundreds and hundreds and HUNDREDS of dollars I've happily spent since TS1)
My comments to the SENIOR SIM GURU'S: ( Those who have been "laid off" ( DANIEL) and those who remain)
I want to thank you, all of you for providing me with nearly two decades of absolute joy. How I loved building homes in TS3 that extended out over lakes and oceans, building those houseboats, watching my sims scuba dive, or play in the snow.
I've laughed at those brilliant little videos that play on the Sims TV's and computers, at the sometimes hilarious furniture and build/ buy object descriptions...the incredible detail in animations, sounds.... that made the Sims so amazingly special. No other group has accomplished anything close to this. It was evident in every single version of the Sims, that you loved what you were doing....and I loved you for that. I especially loved you for CAW...you have no idea how many months my husband and I would spend on creating worlds, putting just the right shading on those mountains, on crafting roads and placing rivers and bridges...I think that I loved CAW more than any feature in any game that I've ever played. I still love it, and giving that to us was priceless. So, thank you so much for that.
I imagine that working on Sims4 might have been a little tougher....but I give you credit, you nailed it on the toddlers, on the pets, and while I absolutely loathed " Get Together" and it's whole 🐸🐸🐸🐸 presentation.....I could see glimmers of the old Sims peeking through in the Ep's and Game packs. If you are being " laid off" I truly hope that all of you can, somehow, someway, reunite...and do this again, without the shackles of EA and MAXIS. What you did in creating and building the Sims was groundbreaking, actually pretty amazing to be honest....and I've yet to see any developer come close to what you've done...
Just know that you are appreciated...
Sincerely,
Olivia
Maybe it's because I'm an optimist or maybe it's because I don't want to fathom a world without a new Sims game that I won't... can't believe that this is the end. I've been playing since I was 12 and now I'm about to be 29. It seems surreal to think that something I've loved this long and have put so many hours and money into could be ending. The sims have so much potential and so much life left that it seems unfair and cruel to end it now. There were some low points in my life that the sims kept me going. I have the sims mobile but it's nothing compared to the pc game. I haven't even played it in a few weeks. I don't like playing the sims on console either. I hope that I'm right and that the sims have many more years left with many more memories.
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This isn't the end. If it was EA wouldn't be showing off their next Sims 4 Expeirence at EA Play. I don't want Seasons to be the last pack but if it is I guess I'll have to rely on modders to create new content. New mods are releasing all the time eg the slowdance mod.
This isn't the end. If it was EA wouldn't be showing off their next Sims 4 Expeirence at EA Play. I don't want Seasons to be the last pack but if it is I guess I'll have to rely on modders to create new content. New mods are releasing all the time eg the slowdance mod.
I'm pretty sure the person was trying to ask if everyone thought that The Sims 4 would be the last game. Not that it was ending.
The question was, "Do you truly think that The Sims 4 is the end of the road for the PC franchise?" If you look at the way it's worded it's notice it says 'is' instead of 'at.' It's a minor word change but it makes a huge difference.
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This isn't the end. If it was EA wouldn't be showing off their next Sims 4 Expeirence at EA Play. I don't want Seasons to be the last pack but if it is I guess I'll have to rely on modders to create new content. New mods are releasing all the time eg the slowdance mod.
I'm pretty sure the person was trying to ask if everyone thought that The Sims 4 would be the last game. Not that it was ending.
The question was, "Do you truly think that The Sims 4 is the end of the road for the PC franchise?" If you look at the way it's worded it's notice it says 'is' instead of 'at.' It's a minor word change but it makes a huge difference.
Well in that case then I would say maybe as I don't think they've even started on Sims 5 yet. If it is the last sims game I hope that EA will sell it to another game studio.
Whether it is, or it is not, it does not bode well for the future of the franchise, and Maxis. There is a reason EA is EA, and the reputation it has, that is all what I am going to say about that. All I hope now is that just like Sim City had Cities: Skylines, The Sims has a worthy, to more superior competitor going forward.
I just hope that some official source can give a statement considering this. Just a simple "No we're not dead" They know that the community is afraid about the end of The Sims franchise since they're firing amazing developers that have been there since the beginning and who know everything about the game.
Thus far we've only seen a hand full of SimGurus saying "I love this game!!!". That's not what we're talking about here.
This poor game reached the worst purpore ever. You cannot make more awful a game. So yes I hope it's the end, I don't want to hear anymore about EA. Please another company take this Franchise and EA go back.
Too valuable? Umm....Sim City was too valuable too and now its Mobile instead of a PC game. 2013 doesn't get anything new. Sims 4 is Sim City 2013 of The Sims. It will be the end and EA will focus on Mobile.
1. The Sims 2
2. The Sims 3
3. The Sims 4 (5 years later its decent)
4. The Sims 1
Phones are fast becoming a mini PC and not to many want this huge thing sitting in there living room when they can have something that goes in there pocket. Sadly the Sims are headed the same as vinyl records.
The great irony is that mobile phone games look like the came out during the era of vinyl records. I guess it's consoles that are killing the pc market. But if Sims 4 is the way they planned on heading with it's reduction in quality and quantity it's probably better that Sims PC ends on this sour note.
Not at all - I play x-box games on my pc -Microsoft made that possible. I can also play mobiles games on it - but I do not care for mobile games even though I have a few on my pc for young relatives that come to visit. The little ones like mobile games. I have my pc set though so no one but me can buy anything on my pc - so no micro-transitions are allowed for them. - I don't buy devices of any kind - I have no need - all I need is my pc and top of the line internet. I do own a flip phone for the very rare instances I have to go out of my house -it's such an ordeal just to do that - but I just carry a flip phone in case of emergency. I will never buy any tablet or any other portable device when my pc can do it all. I can even read e-books on it - if I want but I still like to read and buy real books - so no point - but I do have the software.
Funny my 9 year old nephew was annoyed my pc plays his fave mobile game way better than his expensive Smart phone does. On top of it he can see his game full screen with no distortion and doesn't have to squirt or get neck or finger pain.
Tell me again why I would want anything else or why pc is not the way we should be going. I mean think of it my neighbors son stood in line waiting for the newest x-box to play his new game - and I could already play the game with out even leaving my house.
But I still prefer PC games over any other game - and if I get the choice between console or pc - I will always go with pc.
Besides that new X-box doesn't hold a candle to my pc....
But The Sims pc is still my fav game.... I just can't imagine it ending...
I do not believe Sims mobile will work on pc - but even if it does - not interested. It's like Sims social - horrible idea.
I have a $4k rig myself but not every title of every game I want comes out on PC, even stores that owe their success to the once thriving PC gaming market mostly stock console games. It's a death that you cant deny but I guess consoles do put everyone on an even keel. I mean Iwas playing Sims 4 on this rig while someone was also playing it on a 10 year old laptop...
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It’s a mobile game.
The great irony is that mobile phone games look like the came out during the era of vinyl records. I guess it's consoles that are killing the pc market. But if Sims 4 is the way they planned on heading with it's reduction in quality and quantity it's probably better that Sims PC ends on this sour note.
I probably think "new project" means a non Sims game...
His title changed to the mobile division, so it is a new mobile game.
The game is not made by a single developer, it is by a team. Everyone who has worked with daniel has learned a lot about how he sees the game and how it does things. So just wait for the news.
More than one developer have been layed off. And according to news sources many developers are moving into the mobile division.
Also I don't think Cats and Dogs increased the number of players, the console release did, but those numbers were never truly specified by EA. Many people that own TS4 on pc also bought it on console so new players is relative.
Not at all - I play x-box games on my pc -Microsoft made that possible. I can also play mobiles games on it - but I do not care for mobile games even though I have a few on my pc for young relatives that come to visit. The little ones like mobile games. I have my pc set though so no one but me can buy anything on my pc - so no micro-transitions are allowed for them. - I don't buy devices of any kind - I have no need - all I need is my pc and top of the line internet. I do own a flip phone for the very rare instances I have to go out of my house -it's such an ordeal just to do that - but I just carry a flip phone in case of emergency. I will never buy any tablet or any other portable device when my pc can do it all. I can even read e-books on it - if I want but I still like to read and buy real books - so no point - but I do have the software.
Funny my 9 year old nephew was annoyed my pc plays his fave mobile game way better than his expensive Smart phone does. On top of it he can see his game full screen with no distortion and doesn't have to squirt or get neck or finger pain.
Tell me again why I would want anything else or why pc is not the way we should be going. I mean think of it my neighbors son stood in line waiting for the newest x-box to play his new game - and I could already play the game with out even leaving my house.
But I still prefer PC games over any other game - and if I get the choice between console or pc - I will always go with pc.
Besides that new X-box doesn't hold a candle to my pc....
But The Sims pc is still my fav game.... I just can't imagine it ending...
I do not believe Sims mobile will work on pc - but even if it does - not interested. It's like Sims social - horrible idea.
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The Sims 4 is, by EA's own admission, making money hand-over-fist. But cutting staff has been the publisher's MO even in success. I do not see an end to The Sims 4 anytime soon, nor an end to The Sims series. While I do suspect that mobile will be the future, I do forsee a Seasons EP this year. Perhaps even a University pack on the horizon. How much else is dubious.
Regardless, the market will sort things in the end. It did with the case of city builders, and I suspect the same going forward.
Get ready for spin-offs and half-baked money-grabbers using The Sims™ to promote it. It's already on course.
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1: I had a bad feeling back when I was reading that funding was being channeled to the Star Wars game, from the proceeds of SIMS4 sales. Seemed to me that the corporate office saw this franchise as a guaranteed source of revenue, and that they assumed that the customers were so stupid that they'd accept any pile of garbage they produced under the Sims name.... sadly, they were right.
2: Sims 4 became part of the Mobile division, which in my opinion was the first shot at wounding the franchise.
As far as the whole mobile thing goes, count me out. It may be the trend, it may be great for a quick profit, but it isn't quality, it doesn't have depth, and it has no soul. Not to mention that it's a cheap money grabbing maneuver.
3: LAYING OFF SENIOR SIM GURU'S .....this is the kiss of death to the franchise. These people had the creative vision and skill to guide this franchise for MANY YEARS...and to me they ARE THE SIMS.... IF what is posted on Reddit is true, it's over. I'm not a fan of other EA/MAXIS games...so if the Sims that I've loved for nearly twenty years is finished, then I'm finished with them. ( Not that EA/Maxis will care...nope not after the hundreds and hundreds and HUNDREDS of dollars I've happily spent since TS1)
My comments to the SENIOR SIM GURU'S: ( Those who have been "laid off" ( DANIEL) and those who remain)
I want to thank you, all of you for providing me with nearly two decades of absolute joy. How I loved building homes in TS3 that extended out over lakes and oceans, building those houseboats, watching my sims scuba dive, or play in the snow.
I've laughed at those brilliant little videos that play on the Sims TV's and computers, at the sometimes hilarious furniture and build/ buy object descriptions...the incredible detail in animations, sounds.... that made the Sims so amazingly special. No other group has accomplished anything close to this. It was evident in every single version of the Sims, that you loved what you were doing....and I loved you for that. I especially loved you for CAW...you have no idea how many months my husband and I would spend on creating worlds, putting just the right shading on those mountains, on crafting roads and placing rivers and bridges...I think that I loved CAW more than any feature in any game that I've ever played. I still love it, and giving that to us was priceless. So, thank you so much for that.
I imagine that working on Sims4 might have been a little tougher....but I give you credit, you nailed it on the toddlers, on the pets, and while I absolutely loathed " Get Together" and it's whole 🐸🐸🐸🐸 presentation.....I could see glimmers of the old Sims peeking through in the Ep's and Game packs. If you are being " laid off" I truly hope that all of you can, somehow, someway, reunite...and do this again, without the shackles of EA and MAXIS. What you did in creating and building the Sims was groundbreaking, actually pretty amazing to be honest....and I've yet to see any developer come close to what you've done...
Just know that you are appreciated...
Sincerely,
Olivia
I'm pretty sure the person was trying to ask if everyone thought that The Sims 4 would be the last game. Not that it was ending.
The question was, "Do you truly think that The Sims 4 is the end of the road for the PC franchise?" If you look at the way it's worded it's notice it says 'is' instead of 'at.' It's a minor word change but it makes a huge difference.
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They've said they want to keep doing it until it no longer makes sense.
Who knows though, I just don't see a Sims 5 happenig
Well in that case then I would say maybe as I don't think they've even started on Sims 5 yet. If it is the last sims game I hope that EA will sell it to another game studio.
This.
Thus far we've only seen a hand full of SimGurus saying "I love this game!!!". That's not what we're talking about here.
2. The Sims 3
3. The Sims 4 (5 years later its decent)
4. The Sims 1
I have a $4k rig myself but not every title of every game I want comes out on PC, even stores that owe their success to the once thriving PC gaming market mostly stock console games. It's a death that you cant deny but I guess consoles do put everyone on an even keel. I mean Iwas playing Sims 4 on this rig while someone was also playing it on a 10 year old laptop...
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