Dear Gurus, developers and game designers,
You'll have seen some ugliness here over something as innocuous as traditional headwear. I'll admit, I found that a bit dismaying, myself.
Please do not allow vocal displays of intolerance to dissuade you from the diverse and inclusive vision you have for the game. I'd rather see a hundred packs of content that doesn't especially cater or appeal to me personally, than to see bigotry coddled.
You have all done a superb job so far, navigating difficult terrain, making your best effort, and correcting where actual mistakes have been made. Please, trust your principles are in the right place, and carry on.
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Well said !
TYVM Sims team. 💛💜💚🧡💙❤
- Leeloo
Let's make Liberty and Justice For All a reality.
In the end of the day, they are a business and they depend on customers. It is not wise to alienate and push away some customers.
Lets make this a reality!
You mean like how they added those stupid Star Wars and Final Fantasy (or whatever game it was) costumes and I have to see them every time my Sims go to geek-con?
I wasn't a TS4 player when those were added. Was there a big whoopdedoo ragefest then about how Twi'leks are oppressed, and how Mandalorians are a conquest culture? I might have enjoyed that. Or "Why isn't the senator from MY star system represented by a hairdo?"
Sorry - the collision of ideas here is way too entertaining. I could go on but won't.
There is a lot of content I don't like and don't use, that I have no say over being in my game. That's fine, because someone will enjoy it.
best thing to do is report it. Fair is fair right?
OUTER SENSHI PRIDE
I never saw that.All I saw was people getting on Ea hyprocripsy,want items for other religions,or just does not want it in their personal game.
My dog in this fight is that I am in fact a minority underrepresented in games, and historically harassed in gaming communities. That is gradually changing, but a huge part of what The Sims has been for me is a game where I don't actually face that. I would in the past have said "and game community", but sadly, since migrating to TS4 from TS3/TSM, I have not found that to actually still be the case. So, while I am not a black gamer, or a female gamer, or a Muslim gamer, where I see attacks directed at any of these, or anyone in a similar position, I empathize.
I also think it is problematic to segregate content, rather than casually including it for everyone. It is the opposite of inclusive. It hard-codes marginalization which is the problem it is intended to address. This is a subtle point, and it may seem minor, It's difficult to explain. But, observing Maxis over time, and reading industry interviews with the guiding minds of the studio, I know they get it. That's a huge part of what keeps me coming back. It's an outlook I especially value, because it's rare. It's what I made this thread to encourage.
Is there free content I find intrusive in my own games, that I don't care to see? Yes, there is. I have a personal bugaboo against real-world text rather than Simlish in my game, even in endorsement of causes I support. But I understand partnerships, and branding, and the business aspect involved, and I don't impute sinister motives to Maxis on account of it. I find mods that correct it, and play on. My issue, my problem. Problem solved.
Of course not everyone is going to agree. But they don't need to drag me to do it, or brigade my thread. I made a general statement, and people took it personally, and then tell me it's not about me? No, it's not. It's about everyone else, making it about them. Do moms not give hugs anymore? What is up with that? Anyhow, time to go have a life, so I'm out for now. Toodles.
I say EA keep it coming, the more culturally inspired ppl of color content the better. We haven't even reached the brink. I want it all and I want it now!
@Sindocat
Stand in your truth! I agree 100. Thanks for posting your thoughts.
And yet not all women who wear hijab aren't Muslim its very much cultural as it is religious
Typo
They don’t where I am from. It is strictly Muslim garb. Along with burkas.
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Nope not always. Born and raised in the US plenty of my friends weren't active Muslims but it was part of their culture. I don't celebrate religious holidays yet we have that in gamem I respect ppl just want representation.
Well I'm in the US and it's not always the case here. There are other religious items that I don't observe in game.
I think EA including a custom calender and custom holidays was the best part of Seasons.I don't believe in Christmas and all that. So I deleted winterfest and made my own celebration called Blacktivus that all my Sims of different races and cultures observe. I also made a native Sulani holiday to celebrate their culture. EA is just trying to be more inclusive as they should because all sorts of ppl play this game and spend money on it.
People have been asking for hijabs, specifically. There's a thread about it that is still in the EA Ideas corner, I believe.
Personally, I would love to see a pack that is inspired by clothing from the African continent, a sampling of the different cultures and countries there. TS3 did a bit, I'd like to see it in TS4. Some of the headwraps are good and the Caribbean items. I would love to see more.
EA_Joz