I don't want an M rated Sims game, but I would enjoy more than T rated... Don't need drug dealing, or bloddy violence... Just more relatable and funny things...
Dragon Age and Mass Effect are M rated because there are nudity and blood.
It's not things which would make The Sims better.
Need For Speed and EA Sports games aren't M-rated but the concept is more for adult players.
The Sims is maybe the only game designed for everybody (men, women, elder, adult, teen and children), it would be strange if it became like the other games a "White straight adult man" game.
I started a thread about a more mature game earlier but myself don't want a shoot-em-up one. Nor an oversexed game either. Maybe those modders who like it can release their imaginations fully in the Legacy Game as EA/Maxis will stop patching it.
I wouldn't want to see an M-rated Sims game, either. As everyone else has said, there's mods for that. Now, I don't think mods should be necessary to make the game function as intended. (AKA when mods are needed to fix a bug.) But M-rated material wasn't how the game was intended. It would involve completely changing a well-established image and brand. There's zero reason for them to do that.
I like the fact that I can play this with my kids in the room. I like the funny, nonsense deaths, like going by cowplant or embarrassment. If I wanted a more explicit or violent game, I'd buy it.
@Simburian Good point about the Legacy Game. Seems like the perfect solution.
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Giving sims5 this ranking means that they would lose their younger player base I think EA would only do this if they would think that there is a larger player base out there that are older, have not played the sims much before and would buy it if it the game would have more things that appeal to them.
So I think a higher rating could be interesting for the next sims game, but only of they add more complex mechanics to it. Otherwise I think the older generation would not really be interested in playing it.
Personally, I prefer "M" rated games because I find the content more interesting and usually more fun to play. However, above and beyond all that... a well-made, interesting "T" rated game will get my money long before a shoddy, dull "M" rated game. Give me quality, 🐸🐸🐸🐸.
What would you all think of a Sims game going above the current rating that could provide a different type of level of realism? I don't want to see the game turn violent or anything but something that could push the boundaries a little.
I want to see a more darker approach to realism. For players like me who have played nearly 20 years we are now 20 years older and although I cannot say how old I am now but I have aged up at least a couple of times now!
A more gritty approach should be fun for players who like to play advanced. It has been done in the past but I feel like they have moved away from it too much with these 'emotions' if that is still a thing. If there is a divorce or something in the family it should effect Sims a lot more in the long term. What about cheating? Should Sims gain trust issues?
Of course the nice stuff like family play should still remain but I feel that we should be able to move a few steps forward and allow us to play with life like never before.
A T rating is really too limited for some players.
Suggestions?
I think 2 releases should be done for Sims 5. I think it should be a limited release of a mature or adult rating with a later release date and a release with a teen rating which would not be a limited edition.
Playtesting - not just tabletop games and card games any more. Really that should have been playtested in Beta and not [img]just with accounting and marketing but actual players. https://i.imgur.com/t48COW6.jpg[/img]
I'd say to push the boundaries of t rating like sims medieval did, definitely. I wouldn't mind m content though or more dark humor like the cow plant. Actually, we already have woohoo, bubbles, juice and slapping, so we're good with adult themes. But I'd rather have deeper and more meaningful gameplay with more consequences.
I want to play ALL the premade families! One day...
I wouldn't want to see an M-rated Sims game, either. As everyone else has said, there's mods for that. Now, I don't think mods should be necessary to make the game function as intended. (AKA when mods are needed to fix a bug.) But M-rated material wasn't how the game was intended. It would involve completely changing a well-established image and brand. There's zero reason for them to do that.
I like the fact that I can play this with my kids in the room. I like the funny, nonsense deaths, like going by cowplant or embarrassment. If I wanted a more explicit or violent game, I'd buy it.
@Simburian Good point about the Legacy Game. Seems like the perfect solution.
Since I want a TS5: Medieval instead of yet another modern-day simulation, yes. I'd like sims to be able to spar, rob and kill each other - in a non-violent way, of course. But this kind of content would make the rating higher.
Personally, I prefer the way the game is rated now. It means more people can play if they want; widening the market and it’s okay if a child sees their parent playing and wants to play too.
What would you all think of a Sims game going above the current rating that could provide a different type of level of realism? I don't want to see the game turn violent or anything but something that could push the boundaries a little.
I want to see a more darker approach to realism. For players like me who have played nearly 20 years we are now 20 years older and although I cannot say how old I am now but I have aged up at least a couple of times now!
A more gritty approach should be fun for players who like to play advanced. It has been done in the past but I feel like they have moved away from it too much with these 'emotions' if that is still a thing. If there is a divorce or something in the family it should effect Sims a lot more in the long term. What about cheating? Should Sims gain trust issues?
Of course the nice stuff like family play should still remain but I feel that we should be able to move a few steps forward and allow us to play with life like never before.
A T rating is really too limited for some players.
I would vote for a more mature game, but consider what is rated teen in the current game, it doesn't have any darker elements to it like the older games. Maybe return of the true teen rating would be helpful to players like me and the OP. You know, burglars, muggings, arrests, times in jail, death by disease (in TS2 and TSM), even illness by too much socialising (in The Sims Medieval). It seems the T rating for TS4 is actually E for Everyone, so yes, if we had the T ratings of the past, I would enjoy a more 'mature' game.
"Games Are Not The Place To Tell Stories, Games Are Meant To Let People Tell Their Own Stories"...Will Wright.
I would be happy if this happenes. Maybe they could make two versions of the game, one T and one above.
2 versions. I was thinking the same thing too. I really need the game sexual theme to be louder (not to the extend excessively overboard or cross the line) but now the game sexual theme is like child's play; mundane and boring. If S5 is going to be like S4, I'm so ready to quit the sims after a decade of playing this game.
"That impact, however, has worried some who fear the idea of a virtual life leads people to neglect their physical lives, or worse, gives people licence to escape real life laws and social constraints.
Last year, the darker side of Sims life was revealed by philosophy professor Peter Ludlow.
As a resident of Alphaville, the biggest city in Sims spin-off The Sims Online, he revealed the criminal elements and seedier activities that had bled into the "game", including the Sims Mafioso, prostitution, and thieves.
This shadier side of virtual life is something that concerns, but also interests Wright.
"It makes the game more interesting. It is pretty playful and harmless," he said.
"It is something our society is grappling with. There is a whole generation of kids who have real and virtual communities, which is almost alien to the generation above.
"We need to learn to live with it as a society." "
I would be interested to see the business case for an M-rated Sims. I suspect there isn't a good one. Clearly, however, the game is successful with a T rating and good mod support.
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Sims doesn’t need to move above a T rating. To be entirely honest, they can do A LOT more risqué things without jeopardizing the T rating they have now. The super kid-friendly direction they’ve went with Sims 4 isn’t due to the ESRB, as much as they would like to attribute them for it.
The solution is as simple as eliminating the targeting of kids for their marketing. The game is rated T for teen, no reason that children should factor into what shapes the game. Children potentially seeing a PG13 movie doesn’t stop the creators from including what gave it that rating in the first place. Video games shouldn’t be held back by such nonsense either.
Sims doesn’t need to move above a T rating. To be entirely honest, they can do A LOT more risqué things without jeopardizing the T rating they have now. The super kid-friendly direction they’ve went with Sims 4 isn’t due to the ESRB, as much as they would like to attribute them for it.
The solution is as simple as eliminating the targeting of kids for their marketing. The game is rated T for teen, no reason that children should factor into what shapes the game. Children potentially seeing a PG13 movie doesn’t stop the creators from including what gave it that rating in the first place. Video games shouldn’t be held back by such nonsense either.
I tried to like this but it didn't work so I will say I agree. I can't understand if they can have muggings in TSM in 2011 why Sims can't get mugged in the pc series and look like they were hurt with wrapped arm or holding their side and need salve for a black eye or a visit to the doctor. That would be considered M by players of TS4, in my opinion. But it's actually T rated. Not getting fired is another pet peeve, people get fired, so I don't understand why Sims in TS4 don't get fired and should be as unhappy and miserable as they were in TS1 and TS2. They wouldn't even look for another job until they felt better.
"Games Are Not The Place To Tell Stories, Games Are Meant To Let People Tell Their Own Stories"...Will Wright.
I don't want a more mature game. As the Sims is now, I can play with my four year old sister and five year old brother in the room and feel comfortable. I can bond with my other siblings who are old enough to play Sims but not old enough to play mature themes. Also, I don't feel like I am missing things, even as an adult player myself. If I wanted mature themes, I could download mature mods. (I don't want them.) Several players do this. The game now is so fun and easy going. I love it. It isn't like any other game I have ever played. It's refreshing, honestly. The teen rating is what draws a lot of people to Sims. There isn't anything else quite like it.
I don't think that the game makers would ever make the game rated above teen. They would lose a huge part of their audience of they did so. They can still make the game slightly more mature without having to change the rating above teen.
Not getting fired is another pet peeve, people get fired, so I don't understand why Sims in TS4 don't get fired and should be as unhappy and miserable as they were in TS1 and TS2. They wouldn't even look for another job until they felt better.
Sims can get fired. At least...mine can. Haha. If the suck at their job, miss too many days, etc, they will get fired.
Not getting fired is another pet peeve, people get fired, so I don't understand why Sims in TS4 don't get fired and should be as unhappy and miserable as they were in TS1 and TS2. They wouldn't even look for another job until they felt better.
Sims can get fired. At least...mine can. Haha. If the suck at their job, miss too many days, etc, they will get fired.
I've not seen it. But are they miserable about it and won't take another job or will a $2 painting make them forget they were horrible at their job?
"Games Are Not The Place To Tell Stories, Games Are Meant To Let People Tell Their Own Stories"...Will Wright.
Since I can't edit posts to add anything, sorry about the spam but I hope someday someone builds a darker (just a little) life simulator for all us folks who have been around for twenty years and way past fourty, and all others can play TS4.
"Games Are Not The Place To Tell Stories, Games Are Meant To Let People Tell Their Own Stories"...Will Wright.
I don't want a more mature game. As the Sims is now, I can play with my four year old sister and five year old brother in the room and feel comfortable. I can bond with my other siblings who are old enough to play Sims but not old enough to play mature themes. Also, I don't feel like I am missing things, even as an adult player myself. If I wanted mature themes, I could download mature mods. (I don't want them.) Several players do this. The game now is so fun and easy going. I love it. It isn't like any other game I have ever played. It's refreshing, honestly. The teen rating is what draws a lot of people to Sims. There isn't anything else quite like it.
I don't think that the game makers would ever make the game rated above teen. They would lose a huge part of their audience of they did so. They can still make the game slightly more mature without having to change the rating above teen.
Couldn’tve summed it up better myself! This is pretty much exactly what I meant with my comment but of course more personal. 👍🏻
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It's not things which would make The Sims better.
Need For Speed and EA Sports games aren't M-rated but the concept is more for adult players.
The Sims is maybe the only game designed for everybody (men, women, elder, adult, teen and children), it would be strange if it became like the other games a "White straight adult man" game.
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The Sims 4 General DiscussionI like the fact that I can play this with my kids in the room. I like the funny, nonsense deaths, like going by cowplant or embarrassment. If I wanted a more explicit or violent game, I'd buy it.
@Simburian Good point about the Legacy Game. Seems like the perfect solution.
So I think a higher rating could be interesting for the next sims game, but only of they add more complex mechanics to it. Otherwise I think the older generation would not really be interested in playing it.
I think 2 releases should be done for Sims 5. I think it should be a limited release of a mature or adult rating with a later release date and a release with a teen rating which would not be a limited edition.
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2 versions. I was thinking the same thing too. I really need the game sexual theme to be louder (not to the extend excessively overboard or cross the line) but now the game sexual theme is like child's play; mundane and boring. If S5 is going to be like S4, I'm so ready to quit the sims after a decade of playing this game.
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Below taken from BBC News 17th September 2004
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/3645552.stm
"That impact, however, has worried some who fear the idea of a virtual life leads people to neglect their physical lives, or worse, gives people licence to escape real life laws and social constraints.
Last year, the darker side of Sims life was revealed by philosophy professor Peter Ludlow.
As a resident of Alphaville, the biggest city in Sims spin-off The Sims Online, he revealed the criminal elements and seedier activities that had bled into the "game", including the Sims Mafioso, prostitution, and thieves.
This shadier side of virtual life is something that concerns, but also interests Wright.
"It makes the game more interesting. It is pretty playful and harmless," he said.
"It is something our society is grappling with. There is a whole generation of kids who have real and virtual communities, which is almost alien to the generation above.
"We need to learn to live with it as a society." "
So is Will Wright right in 2019?
The solution is as simple as eliminating the targeting of kids for their marketing. The game is rated T for teen, no reason that children should factor into what shapes the game. Children potentially seeing a PG13 movie doesn’t stop the creators from including what gave it that rating in the first place. Video games shouldn’t be held back by such nonsense either.
I tried to like this but it didn't work so I will say I agree. I can't understand if they can have muggings in TSM in 2011 why Sims can't get mugged in the pc series and look like they were hurt with wrapped arm or holding their side and need salve for a black eye or a visit to the doctor. That would be considered M by players of TS4, in my opinion. But it's actually T rated. Not getting fired is another pet peeve, people get fired, so I don't understand why Sims in TS4 don't get fired and should be as unhappy and miserable as they were in TS1 and TS2. They wouldn't even look for another job until they felt better.
I don't think that the game makers would ever make the game rated above teen. They would lose a huge part of their audience of they did so. They can still make the game slightly more mature without having to change the rating above teen.
Sims can get fired. At least...mine can. Haha. If the suck at their job, miss too many days, etc, they will get fired.
I've not seen it. But are they miserable about it and won't take another job or will a $2 painting make them forget they were horrible at their job?
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Yes, I agree with this. There's a lot they can still do that falls under the T rating.