In fact this is also important for people who do basically want that new feature. EA is great in overdoing features, making basically good ideas a nuisance. And they can do it right, even without a toggle. Genies in Sims 3 prove it. It takes some effort to get them in your game and even when you do they will never become a plague. No toggle needed.
I don't think vampires in TS4 are overdone or a nuisance. I think the way they are implemented is perfect.
I've never really "played" a vampire before in the sims. I've been playing since 2002 or 2003. Except to get their powers, I saw no point. And notorious cheater that I am, I always knew I could go back and forth whenever I wanted. Like, literally. I didn't bite or feed off other sims and I rarely even used the more nefarious abilities previous iterations of vampires possessed.
This time, though. This time? Oh, my gosh. Great Cats! Vampires are over the top! Their abilities actually have a purpose (gaining more abilities!) and the interactions end up being ... maybe not beneficial... but at the least not as destructive as they were in past versions. Everyone I've fed from is still my friend, everyone I've turned (except the one that must have died from it) is still willing to hang out and party with me.
The one that I think I accidentally caused to die actually showed up at my house as a furious ghost. She started an argument, kicked over my trash can and eventually became part of the household. It was just too good a joke to waste.
I primarily play her as vindictive and really, really mad. Which is no stretch. She's a handful. But I also like to purposefully use her to possess things or break things that I knew my vampire wants or constantly uses.
Just because I feel like that's what my vampire gets for turning half the town in her power mad state.
op vampires will only visit your lot if you have 1 living with you right now i do not have any vampires living in my household so there are none showing up if you do not have vampires living with your sims or made 1 in create a sim you will not see them spawn in your game.
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Personally i find it odd with sims 4 how many people, myself included, need to buy every pack/EP and SP for the game. With both sims 2 and 3 I only bought packs that appealed to me. I didn't care if it had hair/clothes/stuff that I liked if the feature didn't appeal to me. Not dissing anyone here like I said myself included, I always want every new thing they come out with. I took a long break and didn't get city life until recently, but as soon as I came back to the game I got it.
Maybe it's because there was a store to buy certain things. I don't know it's weird, but it's like everyone wants whatever they add even if they don't like the city, or vamps or whatever,
i feel like maybe the game itself is lacking somehow so we all need new content constantly or it gets old. I know I was so pumped about vamps and toddlers and now I'm already ready for something new. I haven't even played in over a week. I get bored after awhile and then really excited when we get an update and then bored again.
Sorry for my rambling thoughts. It just seems like I'm not the only one.
If the game in general appealed to more people, maybe everyone wouldn't care if they missed one DLC??
I don't quite know why people seem to feel the need to make their point by dissing the game or others for wanting some things and not others. I wanted the items in the vampire pack so I bought it. I wanted the extra neighborhood. I have always used mods so I have no issue with using them here. And no, I don't find the game lacking, or empty. And if something doesn't appeal to me I will pass on in (Sweet treats anyone).
I think the point and or well it's mine, if you don't want a new 'feature' such as vampires in your game, then for heavens' sake don't buy a pack strictly about them then cry to tone it down....I think that attitude really does take the cake. If you choose to buy a pack with a very focused feature such as vampires and you don't want vampires then it should be up to the player and not EA to figure out how to mod them out. EA shouldn't have to bend to those who knew what they were getting then demand it be toned down since it's a very focused pack. That's on the player and their own responsibility. And always will be.
In fact this is also important for people who do basically want that new feature. EA is great in overdoing features, making basically good ideas a nuisance. And they can do it right, even without a toggle. Genies in Sims 3 prove it. It takes some effort to get them in your game and even when you do they will never become a plague. No toggle needed.
As many have explained these vamps aren't spawning everywhere. It has become the 'alien abduction pregnancy' argument all over again. It's a farce. True, maybe aliens were abducting other players Sims more than necessary, I really don't know, but now there aren't any at all getting pregnant.
This time they put vampires in their own pack. Guess what, you play one, or build one, or let one in, then you may get a few more as a townie working in a store. However, it's not at all like TS3 vampires where they just auto spawned in the rest of the town, because you talked to some. I totally have four or five vampires who I didn't build and or already lived in the town. Two in disguise who were spawned but easily deleted, but I decided to leave them for now. And two I made my vampire kill off/turn. It's not a whole army.
And it's a little bit ridiculous in my eyes at least, to buy a pack strictly about vampires, it's not about goth living, or Victorian times, it's about vampires then go and complain about seeing some...really? I can understand if you buy Pets then have a dozen wild/stray horses all over town but this pack was known to be about 'vampires' it's like not wanting to be pregnant. Best course, no woohoo will 100% for sure, not produce a Sim baby. No vampire pack, 100% not one in your game.
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Of course - if Maxis are working on a Pets expansion they could expand the "no dogs on lot sign" used in an earlier iteration to a "no vampires on lot" sign. One could put them all the lots to be visited if wanted. (or would this be regarded as speciesism)?
I would have loved a "Van Hellsing" Sim with the power to hunt and kill them off!
I bought the pack and explored vampires for a while. It's not really for me though -- for the most part. I do have one sim that's a vampire that I play though. He was born a vampire. My only small rant is that he was at birthday party for his little sister (I wasn't controlling him since he lived in another household) and he died in the front yard. I was horrified. Luckily his Mom plead for him with Grim and he was brought back to life. I immediately moved him into my active household to keep eyes on him at all time.
Anywho he's pretty much the only vampire I see around now. I haven't had a vampire visit my lot since he was a child.
I bought the pack and explored vampires for a while. It's not really for me though -- for the most part. I do have one sim that's a vampire that I play though. He was born a vampire. My only small rant is that he was at birthday party for his little sister (I wasn't controlling him since he lived in another household) and he died in the front yard. I was horrified. Luckily his Mom plead for him with Grim and he was brought back to life. I immediately moved him into my active household to keep eyes on him at all time.
Anywho he's pretty much the only vampire I see around now. I haven't had a vampire visit my lot since he was a child.
Taking care of your guests was your responsibility. Don't go toning down death by sunlight in this game, either. You have a responsibility to yourself and if you like your vampire, to give him the ability to stay outdoors in the sunlight. That's why it is there, in case you don't want him to keel over somewhere out of your control. Also, you could have easily invited him into the building for a chat to get him out of the sun when he first arrived, or under a canopy as long as his head is covered by a roof. Etc. Etc. Why do players in 2017 not take responsibility for their Sims? lol In TS2 there were many times vampires were out and it getting late and sun rising it was up to player to try to rush those Sims home or shew them so they would go home if you don't want to see one burn. A toggle and watered down gameplay has never been necessary. It's about using that gray matter. ETA: Why did you have a party and invite him knowing the sun was shining, anyway? See, it was all player triggered because you knew he couldn't survive the sun.
"Games Are Not The Place To Tell Stories, Games Are Meant To Let People Tell Their Own Stories"...Will Wright.
I dont get some people. Buying some expansions for new decos, places to build and visit and styles is acceptable. But one expansion suddenly is different?
Mayhaps, if some people think vampires really do exist or are uncertain if they do, they feel they will be inviting unknown evil into themselves by playing a game containing them. Same thing with aliens and maybe even ghosts. Games do tend to ignore the boundaries of what is normally considered plausible. I reckon it might scare some people. It's okay in my book and fortunately game and stuff packs are optional
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Now that I have the pack, I have a feeling the first time any vamp breaks into my Sim's home, I'm gonna end up a 'deviant' player by going out of my way to make sure they all burn in the brightest sunlight, on a lot with the sunlight-named trait too just for extra measure.
Now that I have the pack, I have a feeling the first time any vamp breaks into my Sim's home, I'm gonna end up a 'deviant' player by going out of my way to make sure they all burn in the brightest sunlight, on a lot with the sunlight-named trait too just for extra measure.
I tried that with Vlad. He ended up in my science career as a co-worker. I put everyone to sleep and then destroyed the building so everyone was out in the sun. No luck at all. I just had the hassle of trying to replace the building.
I really don't understand how it works. I started a new game and played Vlad. I left him in the sun in front of his house and he burnt up fairly fast.
I see aliens and vampires. After being attacked in my house I learned to lock the door. Otherwise they have never bothered my sim. But to each his own!
If you don't want the vampire pack but want the Victorian type items go download some maxis match gothic cc. If you're not against custom content of course.
I like the idea of the vampires, witches etc being sold in individual game packs that way if it is something that interests a person then buy it if not then don't. At first, I did not think that way but as Sims 4 advances, I begin to feel more so towards individual packs.
I really have to ask this question. Why bother ranting? Seems a complete waste of time and energy to me. Vampires are popular in the Sims and they are expected. They have been in every Sims game since the first and people practically campaign to get them in from the base pack on. What exactly did you seek to accomplish by ranting? There must have been an objective to it. If it was to express your displeasure, then duly noted. Nobody really cares though. If they make a Sims 5 there will Vampires in it too. Just forewarning you.
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@redrogue60 the rant was more of a way to find out if others felt the same way, or what they did about it....I would like some content but I don't do vampires, etc. I used to have nightmares about them when I was little and can't even be in the same room when my husband watches Walking Dead...that said I'll just pass on this one. Thanks for the input.
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I don't think vampires in TS4 are overdone or a nuisance. I think the way they are implemented is perfect.
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This time, though. This time? Oh, my gosh. Great Cats! Vampires are over the top! Their abilities actually have a purpose (gaining more abilities!) and the interactions end up being ... maybe not beneficial... but at the least not as destructive as they were in past versions. Everyone I've fed from is still my friend, everyone I've turned (except the one that must have died from it) is still willing to hang out and party with me.
The one that I think I accidentally caused to die actually showed up at my house as a furious ghost. She started an argument, kicked over my trash can and eventually became part of the household. It was just too good a joke to waste.
I primarily play her as vindictive and really, really mad. Which is no stretch. She's a handful. But I also like to purposefully use her to possess things or break things that I knew my vampire wants or constantly uses.
Just because I feel like that's what my vampire gets for turning half the town in her power mad state.
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As many have explained these vamps aren't spawning everywhere. It has become the 'alien abduction pregnancy' argument all over again. It's a farce. True, maybe aliens were abducting other players Sims more than necessary, I really don't know, but now there aren't any at all getting pregnant.
This time they put vampires in their own pack. Guess what, you play one, or build one, or let one in, then you may get a few more as a townie working in a store. However, it's not at all like TS3 vampires where they just auto spawned in the rest of the town, because you talked to some. I totally have four or five vampires who I didn't build and or already lived in the town. Two in disguise who were spawned but easily deleted, but I decided to leave them for now. And two I made my vampire kill off/turn. It's not a whole army.
And it's a little bit ridiculous in my eyes at least, to buy a pack strictly about vampires, it's not about goth living, or Victorian times, it's about vampires then go and complain about seeing some...really? I can understand if you buy Pets then have a dozen wild/stray horses all over town but this pack was known to be about 'vampires' it's like not wanting to be pregnant. Best course, no woohoo will 100% for sure, not produce a Sim baby. No vampire pack, 100% not one in your game.
I would have loved a "Van Hellsing" Sim with the power to hunt and kill them off!
Anywho he's pretty much the only vampire I see around now. I haven't had a vampire visit my lot since he was a child.
Taking care of your guests was your responsibility. Don't go toning down death by sunlight in this game, either. You have a responsibility to yourself and if you like your vampire, to give him the ability to stay outdoors in the sunlight. That's why it is there, in case you don't want him to keel over somewhere out of your control. Also, you could have easily invited him into the building for a chat to get him out of the sun when he first arrived, or under a canopy as long as his head is covered by a roof. Etc. Etc. Why do players in 2017 not take responsibility for their Sims? lol In TS2 there were many times vampires were out and it getting late and sun rising it was up to player to try to rush those Sims home or shew them so they would go home if you don't want to see one burn. A toggle and watered down gameplay has never been necessary. It's about using that gray matter.
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I tried that with Vlad. He ended up in my science career as a co-worker. I put everyone to sleep and then destroyed the building so everyone was out in the sun. No luck at all. I just had the hassle of trying to replace the building.
I really don't understand how it works. I started a new game and played Vlad. I left him in the sun in front of his house and he burnt up fairly fast.