@GITTE2001 Looks like your using a skin. If you want to compare you need to do it vanilla.
I love both games, I really don't undersand why people feel the need to compare. Taste is taste.
I don't think it matters with or without a skin. This is what can be done in the game. I think TS4 sims are ugly Lego looking things, but I can make them gorgeous with a skin and regular looking hair. Same goes for TS3. I don't like the default lips. They look like they aren't getting enough oxygen. So I have a default skin to make them look better for me.
That's the beauty of any game. With some CC, we can make the game look better. You know what I can't do, though? I can't create gameplay that isn't already there. That's why it is important for Maxis to understand that we don't need stuff and things. We need gameplay that has longevity. Not collections, not socializing. We need for the world and sims to matter, have wants and fears, to be unique, to be influenced, to react, to have meaningful relationships with one another. The modding community has always taken care of the rest. Silly objects are only entertaining for 10 minutes. It's what is at the core that has kept us entertained for years on end. And TS4 doesn't have a core. They removed 95% of what made the game great and lasting.
I see, your not a sims 4 fan
Like I said before I like both games, both have things I like and don't like.
And both bore me if I play to long.
I don't think it has anything to do with being a fan or not. TS4 does have limited game play compared to TS3--and I don't even like TS3! The issue is you can make any sim from any iteration (including 1) look amazing. TS4 just makes this easier with their CAS. That said, what is the point of creating gorgeous sims you can't care about because they have the same personality of every other sim and at the end of the day there is a limit to what you can do with them CC can enable players to 'rule' in regards to looks and build possibilities, but shoddy gameplay isn't something that modders can fix.
I don't think they all have the same personality, I do see differences. The problem is they switch to quickly from emotion to emotion and act on it. I also think the game isn't shoddy. At some parts I think there is more depths in game play then sims 3 basegame.
My sims care and interact more with their children then in sims 3.
Also the interaction between siblings is better. I think sims 3 family game play became better with generations.
Get together also gave the game more depth for groups. I have build schools and let clubs meet there, its great for picture taking.
I also love the little things, like when they are embarrassed they hide beneath the bedcovers.
I hear a lot of people say that they had more to do with sims 3 basegame, but I don't see it like that.
I rather watch movies at home with a group of sims, then go to the theater in sims 3 and disappear.
It all really depends on what you want in a game.
I agree with you. Everyone have their own opinion. Like if the game that bad then why bother to keep on playing it? The game must not be that bad if you continuing playing it like nothing is wrong.
The problem is most of us are not it. For example, I bought the game when it first came out, and I can count on my hands the number of times I've loaded up my game in the past year and a half. I don't even have cumulatively a month's play out of this game.
Some of us are still holding out hoping that the game will get better, but a lot of players have given up on this franchise entirely. If EA doesn't step up the gameplay this year, I'm pretty sure the 'a lot' from the 'some' of us are also going to give up. Hopefully, the sales reflect enough of the discontentment so that EA will be forced to take action--if not, oh well. The Sims was great while it lasted
@GITTE2001 Looks like your using a skin. If you want to compare you need to do it vanilla.
I love both games, I really don't undersand why people feel the need to compare. Taste is taste.
I don't think it matters with or without a skin. This is what can be done in the game. I think TS4 sims are ugly Lego looking things, but I can make them gorgeous with a skin and regular looking hair. Same goes for TS3. I don't like the default lips. They look like they aren't getting enough oxygen. So I have a default skin to make them look better for me.
That's the beauty of any game. With some CC, we can make the game look better. You know what I can't do, though? I can't create gameplay that isn't already there. That's why it is important for Maxis to understand that we don't need stuff and things. We need gameplay that has longevity. Not collections, not socializing. We need for the world and sims to matter, have wants and fears, to be unique, to be influenced, to react, to have meaningful relationships with one another. The modding community has always taken care of the rest. Silly objects are only entertaining for 10 minutes. It's what is at the core that has kept us entertained for years on end. And TS4 doesn't have a core. They removed 95% of what made the game great and lasting.
I see, your not a sims 4 fan
Like I said before I like both games, both have things I like and don't like.
And both bore me if I play to long.
I don't think it has anything to do with being a fan or not. TS4 does have limited game play compared to TS3--and I don't even like TS3! The issue is you can make any sim from any iteration (including 1) look amazing. TS4 just makes this easier with their CAS. That said, what is the point of creating gorgeous sims you can't care about because they have the same personality of every other sim and at the end of the day there is a limit to what you can do with them CC can enable players to 'rule' in regards to looks and build possibilities, but shoddy gameplay isn't something that modders can fix.
I don't think they all have the same personality, I do see differences. The problem is they switch to quickly from emotion to emotion and act on it. I also think the game isn't shoddy. At some parts I think there is more depths in game play then sims 3 basegame.
My sims care and interact more with their children then in sims 3.
Also the interaction between siblings is better. I think sims 3 family game play became better with generations.
Get together also gave the game more depth for groups. I have build schools and let clubs meet there, its great for picture taking.
I also love the little things, like when they are embarrassed they hide beneath the bedcovers.
I hear a lot of people say that they had more to do with sims 3 basegame, but I don't see it like that.
I rather watch movies at home with a group of sims, then go to the theater in sims 3 and disappear.
It all really depends on what you want in a game.
But it was just as easy to make a theater in TS3, just like it was in TS4. Townies will always use the objects you place for them.
People who play the vanilla game and never change anything have no idea what they're missing. I place all the major content on community lots and my lots are always full. I have a casino that is full of adults and elders that just love squandering their family funds. Everyone in town was obsessed with my SimFu academy that I had to add a second one on the other side of town. It was a popping business. They hung out at the school to play on the basketball hoops outside. They went to the roller rink. They played soccer at the park. They used instruments and painted at the community center. They hunted Easter eggs at the park. They ate that shaved ice stuff at the beach.
The games have always been what you make of them. Some just offered a lot more than others.
@GITTE2001 Looks like your using a skin. If you want to compare you need to do it vanilla.
I love both games, I really don't undersand why people feel the need to compare. Taste is taste.
I don't think it matters with or without a skin. This is what can be done in the game. I think TS4 sims are ugly Lego looking things, but I can make them gorgeous with a skin and regular looking hair. Same goes for TS3. I don't like the default lips. They look like they aren't getting enough oxygen. So I have a default skin to make them look better for me.
That's the beauty of any game. With some CC, we can make the game look better. You know what I can't do, though? I can't create gameplay that isn't already there. That's why it is important for Maxis to understand that we don't need stuff and things. We need gameplay that has longevity. Not collections, not socializing. We need for the world and sims to matter, have wants and fears, to be unique, to be influenced, to react, to have meaningful relationships with one another. The modding community has always taken care of the rest. Silly objects are only entertaining for 10 minutes. It's what is at the core that has kept us entertained for years on end. And TS4 doesn't have a core. They removed 95% of what made the game great and lasting.
I see, your not a sims 4 fan
Like I said before I like both games, both have things I like and don't like.
And both bore me if I play to long.
I don't think it has anything to do with being a fan or not. TS4 does have limited game play compared to TS3--and I don't even like TS3! The issue is you can make any sim from any iteration (including 1) look amazing. TS4 just makes this easier with their CAS. That said, what is the point of creating gorgeous sims you can't care about because they have the same personality of every other sim and at the end of the day there is a limit to what you can do with them CC can enable players to 'rule' in regards to looks and build possibilities, but shoddy gameplay isn't something that modders can fix.
I don't think they all have the same personality, I do see differences. The problem is they switch to quickly from emotion to emotion and act on it. I also think the game isn't shoddy. At some parts I think there is more depths in game play then sims 3 basegame.
My sims care and interact more with their children then in sims 3.
Also the interaction between siblings is better. I think sims 3 family game play became better with generations.
Get together also gave the game more depth for groups. I have build schools and let clubs meet there, its great for picture taking.
I also love the little things, like when they are embarrassed they hide beneath the bedcovers.
I hear a lot of people say that they had more to do with sims 3 basegame, but I don't see it like that.
I rather watch movies at home with a group of sims, then go to the theater in sims 3 and disappear.
It all really depends on what you want in a game.
I see, your a sims 4 fan
And a sims 3 fan
I'm neither, but I do love the way TS4 sims look, so I'm going to stick by my point that the criticism of TS4's limitations compared to TS3 is not a 'fan' thing while ignoring the game's limitations is a 'fan' thing.
I'm a fan of some really sucky music groups, and their flaws--in my opinion--are what make up their charm. So yeah, if someone told my one of my favourite musicians was a bad singer and demonstrated through comparison what makes a skilled vocalist, my only response would be I don't think so, because I'm a fan. Their criticism might be based on the fact that they understand music better than I do, or maybe because they aren't a fan--but it's not just because they are not a fan of the musician.
The comment "I see, your not a sims 4 fan" dismisses the critical argument, the same way "I see, your a sims 4 fan" dismisses the argument, but as they say: if you have to expain it...
@GITTE2001 Looks like your using a skin. If you want to compare you need to do it vanilla.
I love both games, I really don't undersand why people feel the need to compare. Taste is taste.
I don't think it matters with or without a skin. This is what can be done in the game. I think TS4 sims are ugly Lego looking things, but I can make them gorgeous with a skin and regular looking hair. Same goes for TS3. I don't like the default lips. They look like they aren't getting enough oxygen. So I have a default skin to make them look better for me.
That's the beauty of any game. With some CC, we can make the game look better. You know what I can't do, though? I can't create gameplay that isn't already there. That's why it is important for Maxis to understand that we don't need stuff and things. We need gameplay that has longevity. Not collections, not socializing. We need for the world and sims to matter, have wants and fears, to be unique, to be influenced, to react, to have meaningful relationships with one another. The modding community has always taken care of the rest. Silly objects are only entertaining for 10 minutes. It's what is at the core that has kept us entertained for years on end. And TS4 doesn't have a core. They removed 95% of what made the game great and lasting.
I see, your not a sims 4 fan
Like I said before I like both games, both have things I like and don't like.
And both bore me if I play to long.
I don't think it has anything to do with being a fan or not. TS4 does have limited game play compared to TS3--and I don't even like TS3! The issue is you can make any sim from any iteration (including 1) look amazing. TS4 just makes this easier with their CAS. That said, what is the point of creating gorgeous sims you can't care about because they have the same personality of every other sim and at the end of the day there is a limit to what you can do with them CC can enable players to 'rule' in regards to looks and build possibilities, but shoddy gameplay isn't something that modders can fix.
I don't think they all have the same personality, I do see differences. The problem is they switch to quickly from emotion to emotion and act on it. I also think the game isn't shoddy. At some parts I think there is more depths in game play then sims 3 basegame.
My sims care and interact more with their children then in sims 3.
Also the interaction between siblings is better. I think sims 3 family game play became better with generations.
Get together also gave the game more depth for groups. I have build schools and let clubs meet there, its great for picture taking.
I also love the little things, like when they are embarrassed they hide beneath the bedcovers.
I hear a lot of people say that they had more to do with sims 3 basegame, but I don't see it like that.
I rather watch movies at home with a group of sims, then go to the theater in sims 3 and disappear.
It all really depends on what you want in a game.
But it was just as easy to make a theater in TS3, just like it was in TS4. Townies will always use the objects you place for them.
People who play the vanilla game and never change anything have no idea what they're missing. I place all the major content on community lots and my lots are always full. I have a casino that is full of adults and elders that just love squandering their family funds. Everyone in town was obsessed with my SimFu academy that I had to add a second one on the other side of town. It was a popping business. They hung out at the school to play on the basketball hoops outside. They went to the roller rink. They played soccer at the park. They used instruments and painted at the community center. They hunted Easter eggs at the park. They ate that shaved ice stuff at the beach.
The games have always been what you make of them. Some just offered a lot more than others.
A lot of those things you are naming are not in the basegame of sims 3.
To be fair watching movies was also not in sims 4 base game.
So just taking family interactions between basegames, sims 4 has more depth in my opinion.
I think with both games they grow better with more expansion packs, because it means more things to do and interactions.
I do miss my pets and supernaturals from sims 3 and hope they will be back soon in sims 4.
Oh and of course toddlers, that is one life stage they should have never removed. Personally I didn't play them much after doing everthing a couple of times, but they just belong in the sims, from the moment they were born in sims 2.
I agree with you. Everyone have their own opinion. Like if the game that bad then why bother to keep on playing it? The game must not be that bad if you continuing playing it like nothing is wrong.
The problem is most of us are not it. For example, I bought the game when it first came out, and I can count on my hands the number of times I've loaded up my game in the past year and a half. I don't even have cumulatively a month's play out of this game.
Some of us are still holding out hoping that the game will get better, but a lot of players have given up on this franchise entirely. If EA doesn't step up the gameplay this year, I'm pretty sure the 'a lot' from the 'some' of us are also going to give up. Hopefully, the sales reflect enough of the discontentment so that EA will be forced to take action--if not, oh well. The Sims was great while it lasted
Yep that's it. I've 'played' 42 hours according to origin. I'm pretty sure that included the CAS demo and I pop in to try things with patches to see if anything has changed to draw me in but as of yet it's a no.
Luckily I never used mods so I went back and modded TS2 and TS3 to mess about with-so it was like having two 'new' games to play when TS4 wasn't fun for me.
@GITTE2001 Looks like your using a skin. If you want to compare you need to do it vanilla.
I love both games, I really don't undersand why people feel the need to compare. Taste is taste.
I don't think it matters with or without a skin. This is what can be done in the game. I think TS4 sims are ugly Lego looking things, but I can make them gorgeous with a skin and regular looking hair. Same goes for TS3. I don't like the default lips. They look like they aren't getting enough oxygen. So I have a default skin to make them look better for me.
That's the beauty of any game. With some CC, we can make the game look better. You know what I can't do, though? I can't create gameplay that isn't already there. That's why it is important for Maxis to understand that we don't need stuff and things. We need gameplay that has longevity. Not collections, not socializing. We need for the world and sims to matter, have wants and fears, to be unique, to be influenced, to react, to have meaningful relationships with one another. The modding community has always taken care of the rest. Silly objects are only entertaining for 10 minutes. It's what is at the core that has kept us entertained for years on end. And TS4 doesn't have a core. They removed 95% of what made the game great and lasting.
I see, your not a sims 4 fan
Like I said before I like both games, both have things I like and don't like.
And both bore me if I play to long.
I don't think it has anything to do with being a fan or not. TS4 does have limited game play compared to TS3--and I don't even like TS3! The issue is you can make any sim from any iteration (including 1) look amazing. TS4 just makes this easier with their CAS. That said, what is the point of creating gorgeous sims you can't care about because they have the same personality of every other sim and at the end of the day there is a limit to what you can do with them CC can enable players to 'rule' in regards to looks and build possibilities, but shoddy gameplay isn't something that modders can fix.
I don't think they all have the same personality, I do see differences. The problem is they switch to quickly from emotion to emotion and act on it. I also think the game isn't shoddy. At some parts I think there is more depths in game play then sims 3 basegame.
My sims care and interact more with their children then in sims 3.
Also the interaction between siblings is better. I think sims 3 family game play became better with generations.
Get together also gave the game more depth for groups. I have build schools and let clubs meet there, its great for picture taking.
I also love the little things, like when they are embarrassed they hide beneath the bedcovers.
I hear a lot of people say that they had more to do with sims 3 basegame, but I don't see it like that.
I rather watch movies at home with a group of sims, then go to the theater in sims 3 and disappear.
It all really depends on what you want in a game.
But it was just as easy to make a theater in TS3, just like it was in TS4. Townies will always use the objects you place for them.
People who play the vanilla game and never change anything have no idea what they're missing. I place all the major content on community lots and my lots are always full. I have a casino that is full of adults and elders that just love squandering their family funds. Everyone in town was obsessed with my SimFu academy that I had to add a second one on the other side of town. It was a popping business. They hung out at the school to play on the basketball hoops outside. They went to the roller rink. They played soccer at the park. They used instruments and painted at the community center. They hunted Easter eggs at the park. They ate that shaved ice stuff at the beach.
The games have always been what you make of them. Some just offered a lot more than others.
A lot of those things you are naming are not in the basegame of sims 3.
To be fair watching movies was also not in sims 4 base game.
So just taking family interactions between basegames, sims 4 has more depth in my opinion. I think with both games they grow better with more expansion packs, because it means more things to do and interactions.
I do miss my pets and supernaturals from sims 3 and hope they will be back soon in sims 4.
I hope you're right. That is at least what I'm banking on!
@GITTE2001 Looks like your using a skin. If you want to compare you need to do it vanilla.
I love both games, I really don't undersand why people feel the need to compare. Taste is taste.
I don't think it matters with or without a skin. This is what can be done in the game. I think TS4 sims are ugly Lego looking things, but I can make them gorgeous with a skin and regular looking hair. Same goes for TS3. I don't like the default lips. They look like they aren't getting enough oxygen. So I have a default skin to make them look better for me.
That's the beauty of any game. With some CC, we can make the game look better. You know what I can't do, though? I can't create gameplay that isn't already there. That's why it is important for Maxis to understand that we don't need stuff and things. We need gameplay that has longevity. Not collections, not socializing. We need for the world and sims to matter, have wants and fears, to be unique, to be influenced, to react, to have meaningful relationships with one another. The modding community has always taken care of the rest. Silly objects are only entertaining for 10 minutes. It's what is at the core that has kept us entertained for years on end. And TS4 doesn't have a core. They removed 95% of what made the game great and lasting.
I see, your not a sims 4 fan
Like I said before I like both games, both have things I like and don't like.
And both bore me if I play to long.
I don't think it has anything to do with being a fan or not. TS4 does have limited game play compared to TS3--and I don't even like TS3! The issue is you can make any sim from any iteration (including 1) look amazing. TS4 just makes this easier with their CAS. That said, what is the point of creating gorgeous sims you can't care about because they have the same personality of every other sim and at the end of the day there is a limit to what you can do with them CC can enable players to 'rule' in regards to looks and build possibilities, but shoddy gameplay isn't something that modders can fix.
I don't think they all have the same personality, I do see differences. The problem is they switch to quickly from emotion to emotion and act on it. I also think the game isn't shoddy. At some parts I think there is more depths in game play then sims 3 basegame.
My sims care and interact more with their children then in sims 3.
Also the interaction between siblings is better. I think sims 3 family game play became better with generations.
Get together also gave the game more depth for groups. I have build schools and let clubs meet there, its great for picture taking.
I also love the little things, like when they are embarrassed they hide beneath the bedcovers.
I hear a lot of people say that they had more to do with sims 3 basegame, but I don't see it like that.
I rather watch movies at home with a group of sims, then go to the theater in sims 3 and disappear.
It all really depends on what you want in a game.
I see, your a sims 4 fan
And a sims 3 fan
I'm neither, but I do love the way TS4 sims look, so I'm going to stick by my point that the criticism of TS4's limitations compared to TS3 is not a 'fan' thing while ignoring the game's limitations is a 'fan' thing.
I'm a fan of some really sucky music groups, and their flaws--in my opinion--are what make up their charm. So yeah, if someone told my one of my favourite musicians was a bad singer and demonstrated through comparison what makes a skilled vocalist, my only response would be I don't think so, because I'm a fan. Their criticism might be based on the fact that they understand music better than I do, or maybe because they aren't a fan--but it's not just because they are not a fan of the musician.
The comment "I see, your not a sims 4 fan" dismisses the critical argument, the same way "I see, your a sims 4 fan" dismisses the argument, but as they say: if you have to expain it...
I feel for you. To not be a fan of either must be kind of sad actually. When the sims 5 comes out i hope it's a better alternative to the sims 3, but until then i'm more then happy with the game. I can skip one generation just fine, but i may have trouble with 2 we will see.
@GITTE2001 Looks like your using a skin. If you want to compare you need to do it vanilla.
I love both games, I really don't undersand why people feel the need to compare. Taste is taste.
I don't think it matters with or without a skin. This is what can be done in the game. I think TS4 sims are ugly Lego looking things, but I can make them gorgeous with a skin and regular looking hair. Same goes for TS3. I don't like the default lips. They look like they aren't getting enough oxygen. So I have a default skin to make them look better for me.
That's the beauty of any game. With some CC, we can make the game look better. You know what I can't do, though? I can't create gameplay that isn't already there. That's why it is important for Maxis to understand that we don't need stuff and things. We need gameplay that has longevity. Not collections, not socializing. We need for the world and sims to matter, have wants and fears, to be unique, to be influenced, to react, to have meaningful relationships with one another. The modding community has always taken care of the rest. Silly objects are only entertaining for 10 minutes. It's what is at the core that has kept us entertained for years on end. And TS4 doesn't have a core. They removed 95% of what made the game great and lasting.
I see, your not a sims 4 fan
Like I said before I like both games, both have things I like and don't like.
And both bore me if I play to long.
I don't think it has anything to do with being a fan or not. TS4 does have limited game play compared to TS3--and I don't even like TS3! The issue is you can make any sim from any iteration (including 1) look amazing. TS4 just makes this easier with their CAS. That said, what is the point of creating gorgeous sims you can't care about because they have the same personality of every other sim and at the end of the day there is a limit to what you can do with them CC can enable players to 'rule' in regards to looks and build possibilities, but shoddy gameplay isn't something that modders can fix.
I don't think they all have the same personality, I do see differences. The problem is they switch to quickly from emotion to emotion and act on it. I also think the game isn't shoddy. At some parts I think there is more depths in game play then sims 3 basegame.
My sims care and interact more with their children then in sims 3.
Also the interaction between siblings is better. I think sims 3 family game play became better with generations.
Get together also gave the game more depth for groups. I have build schools and let clubs meet there, its great for picture taking.
I also love the little things, like when they are embarrassed they hide beneath the bedcovers.
I hear a lot of people say that they had more to do with sims 3 basegame, but I don't see it like that.
I rather watch movies at home with a group of sims, then go to the theater in sims 3 and disappear.
It all really depends on what you want in a game.
I see, your a sims 4 fan
And a sims 3 fan
I'm neither, but I do love the way TS4 sims look, so I'm going to stick by my point that the criticism of TS4's limitations compared to TS3 is not a 'fan' thing while ignoring the game's limitations is a 'fan' thing.
I'm a fan of some really sucky music groups, and their flaws--in my opinion--are what make up their charm. So yeah, if someone told my one of my favourite musicians was a bad singer and demonstrated through comparison what makes a skilled vocalist, my only response would be I don't think so, because I'm a fan. Their criticism might be based on the fact that they understand music better than I do, or maybe because they aren't a fan--but it's not just because they are not a fan of the musician.
The comment "I see, your not a sims 4 fan" dismisses the critical argument, the same way "I see, your a sims 4 fan" dismisses the argument, but as they say: if you have to expain it...
I feel for you. To not be a fan of either must be kind of sad actually. When the sims 5 comes out i hope it's a better alternative to the sims 3, but until then i'm more then happy with the game. I can skip one generation just fine, but i may have trouble with 2 we will see.
It's more of a disappointment thing. I was super gung-ho when TS4 announced because it was originally marketed to be TS2.5, and I wrongly assumed that it was going to take all the awesome of TS3, worlds, content, more gameplay and customisation and combine that with a refocus on the Sims themselves. The Sims in TS4 are so boring, my stats show that without cheats my sim is Energised, Happy, or Uncomfortable all of the time. And the Energised just comes from the brisk shower It's really frustrating, but hopefully the devs are listening and working to improve the game with each update--at least that is what I hear from the fans. I remain both sceptical and hopeful.
In case my post doesn't make sense: I thought TS4 would be the best of TS2 (gorgeous sims with emotional, unique personalities and interactions) and TS3 (amazing worlds, content, adventures, etc). Instead we got sims less smart than TS3 sims, and loading screens. It's like they took the worst part of both games and said "there are you happy?!"
@GITTE2001 Looks like your using a skin. If you want to compare you need to do it vanilla.
I love both games, I really don't undersand why people feel the need to compare. Taste is taste.
I don't think it matters with or without a skin. This is what can be done in the game. I think TS4 sims are ugly Lego looking things, but I can make them gorgeous with a skin and regular looking hair. Same goes for TS3. I don't like the default lips. They look like they aren't getting enough oxygen. So I have a default skin to make them look better for me.
That's the beauty of any game. With some CC, we can make the game look better. You know what I can't do, though? I can't create gameplay that isn't already there. That's why it is important for Maxis to understand that we don't need stuff and things. We need gameplay that has longevity. Not collections, not socializing. We need for the world and sims to matter, have wants and fears, to be unique, to be influenced, to react, to have meaningful relationships with one another. The modding community has always taken care of the rest. Silly objects are only entertaining for 10 minutes. It's what is at the core that has kept us entertained for years on end. And TS4 doesn't have a core. They removed 95% of what made the game great and lasting.
I see, your not a sims 4 fan
Like I said before I like both games, both have things I like and don't like.
And both bore me if I play to long.
I don't think it has anything to do with being a fan or not. TS4 does have limited game play compared to TS3--and I don't even like TS3! The issue is you can make any sim from any iteration (including 1) look amazing. TS4 just makes this easier with their CAS. That said, what is the point of creating gorgeous sims you can't care about because they have the same personality of every other sim and at the end of the day there is a limit to what you can do with them CC can enable players to 'rule' in regards to looks and build possibilities, but shoddy gameplay isn't something that modders can fix.
I don't think they all have the same personality, I do see differences. The problem is they switch to quickly from emotion to emotion and act on it. I also think the game isn't shoddy. At some parts I think there is more depths in game play then sims 3 basegame.
My sims care and interact more with their children then in sims 3.
Also the interaction between siblings is better. I think sims 3 family game play became better with generations.
Get together also gave the game more depth for groups. I have build schools and let clubs meet there, its great for picture taking.
I also love the little things, like when they are embarrassed they hide beneath the bedcovers.
I hear a lot of people say that they had more to do with sims 3 basegame, but I don't see it like that.
I rather watch movies at home with a group of sims, then go to the theater in sims 3 and disappear.
It all really depends on what you want in a game.
But it was just as easy to make a theater in TS3, just like it was in TS4. Townies will always use the objects you place for them.
People who play the vanilla game and never change anything have no idea what they're missing. I place all the major content on community lots and my lots are always full. I have a casino that is full of adults and elders that just love squandering their family funds. Everyone in town was obsessed with my SimFu academy that I had to add a second one on the other side of town. It was a popping business. They hung out at the school to play on the basketball hoops outside. They went to the roller rink. They played soccer at the park. They used instruments and painted at the community center. They hunted Easter eggs at the park. They ate that shaved ice stuff at the beach.
The games have always been what you make of them. Some just offered a lot more than others.
A lot of those things you are naming are not in the basegame of sims 3.
To be fair watching movies was also not in sims 4 base game.
So just taking family interactions between basegames, sims 4 has more depth in my opinion.
I think with both games they grow better with more expansion packs, because it means more things to do and interactions.
I do miss my pets and supernaturals from sims 3 and hope they will be back soon in sims 4.
Oh and of course toddlers, that is one life stage they should have never removed. Personally I didn't play them much after doing everthing a couple of times, but they just belong in the sims, from the moment they were born in sims 2.
I created movie theaters in both TS3 and TS4 base games. Because I use my imagination to find alternative ways to play using the content I am given. And I will mod the heck out of my game because I love to create my own way of playing.
You are right, there was not a lot of content in TS3 base. There was even less in TS4. What you call family interactions in 4, I call meaningless. In 4, any sim can perform any interaction with any child if their relationship points are high enough, except the family kiss. That breaks my family bond because they treat every child like their own child. I don't think there was much in the game for families in TS3 base game. I complained then, too. It came around eventually, which is what I am hoping for here. That's why I've been all over that toddler thread. I want it. They only need to kind of sort of ask for my opinion. I'll tell them everything I want until I'm blue in the face.
@GITTE2001 Looks like your using a skin. If you want to compare you need to do it vanilla.
I love both games, I really don't undersand why people feel the need to compare. Taste is taste.
I don't think it matters with or without a skin. This is what can be done in the game. I think TS4 sims are ugly Lego looking things, but I can make them gorgeous with a skin and regular looking hair. Same goes for TS3. I don't like the default lips. They look like they aren't getting enough oxygen. So I have a default skin to make them look better for me.
That's the beauty of any game. With some CC, we can make the game look better. You know what I can't do, though? I can't create gameplay that isn't already there. That's why it is important for Maxis to understand that we don't need stuff and things. We need gameplay that has longevity. Not collections, not socializing. We need for the world and sims to matter, have wants and fears, to be unique, to be influenced, to react, to have meaningful relationships with one another. The modding community has always taken care of the rest. Silly objects are only entertaining for 10 minutes. It's what is at the core that has kept us entertained for years on end. And TS4 doesn't have a core. They removed 95% of what made the game great and lasting.
I see, your not a sims 4 fan
Like I said before I like both games, both have things I like and don't like.
And both bore me if I play to long.
I don't think it has anything to do with being a fan or not. TS4 does have limited game play compared to TS3--and I don't even like TS3! The issue is you can make any sim from any iteration (including 1) look amazing. TS4 just makes this easier with their CAS. That said, what is the point of creating gorgeous sims you can't care about because they have the same personality of every other sim and at the end of the day there is a limit to what you can do with them CC can enable players to 'rule' in regards to looks and build possibilities, but shoddy gameplay isn't something that modders can fix.
I don't think they all have the same personality, I do see differences. The problem is they switch to quickly from emotion to emotion and act on it. I also think the game isn't shoddy. At some parts I think there is more depths in game play then sims 3 basegame.
My sims care and interact more with their children then in sims 3.
Also the interaction between siblings is better. I think sims 3 family game play became better with generations.
Get together also gave the game more depth for groups. I have build schools and let clubs meet there, its great for picture taking.
I also love the little things, like when they are embarrassed they hide beneath the bedcovers.
I hear a lot of people say that they had more to do with sims 3 basegame, but I don't see it like that.
I rather watch movies at home with a group of sims, then go to the theater in sims 3 and disappear.
It all really depends on what you want in a game.
I see, your a sims 4 fan
And a sims 3 fan
I'm neither, but I do love the way TS4 sims look, so I'm going to stick by my point that the criticism of TS4's limitations compared to TS3 is not a 'fan' thing while ignoring the game's limitations is a 'fan' thing.
I'm a fan of some really sucky music groups, and their flaws--in my opinion--are what make up their charm. So yeah, if someone told my one of my favourite musicians was a bad singer and demonstrated through comparison what makes a skilled vocalist, my only response would be I don't think so, because I'm a fan. Their criticism might be based on the fact that they understand music better than I do, or maybe because they aren't a fan--but it's not just because they are not a fan of the musician.
The comment "I see, your not a sims 4 fan" dismisses the critical argument, the same way "I see, your a sims 4 fan" dismisses the argument, but as they say: if you have to expain it...
I feel for you. To not be a fan of either must be kind of sad actually. When the sims 5 comes out i hope it's a better alternative to the sims 3, but until then i'm more then happy with the game. I can skip one generation just fine, but i may have trouble with 2 we will see.
It's more of a disappointment thing. I was super gung-ho when TS4 announced because it was originally marketed to be TS2.5, and I wrongly assumed that it was going to take all the awesome of TS3, worlds, content, more gameplay and customisation and combine that with a refocus on the Sims themselves. The Sims in TS4 are so boring, my stats show that without cheats my sim is Energised, Happy, or Uncomfortable all of the time. And the Energised just comes from the brisk shower It's really frustrating, but hopefully the devs are listening and working to improve the game with each update--at least that is what I hear from the fans. I remain both sceptical and hopeful.
Well i certainly hope everyone gets what they are looking for out of any1 of the sims series. I knew a long long time ago that the sims 4 wasn't going to be for me due to the lack of an open world so i was never ever disappointed, quite the opposite really. I found that almost immediately after the last EP that EA announced a sims 4. i was kind of worried that it wasn't going to be as good as the sims 3 and i was just starting to get into that game at the time. I almost feel that when a sims series ends its so complete that people just want time to play it for at least 2 or 3 years before a new game gets released. It kind of worked out in a good way for me because now I'm guaranteed a few more great years of sims 3 play.
I guess all I can say is that I don't know what to to do I go on the forums and see people talk about wanting toddlers and many things from other sims games cause I been doing rotational play but it's been okay cause sims 2 rotational play is more fun and sims 3 open world and having more content, but I just can't play sims 4 for more than 1 hour or 2 but that's its to boring just getting sims together and having kids what's the point with no toddlers come on ea I means toddlers and babies look more fun in the sims 3 2, and babies look more fun in sims 1.
All sims games depend 50% on imaginations and scenarios/stories the player can make
If you spice up the game with them then any game will be enjoyable.
My case with TS3 is an exception, because when I start that game and see how ugly the sims are I'm about to throw up. Even with tons and tons of CC I could never make them look decent to my taste. And not to forget also the awful loading times when trying to do something in CAS. That was too horrible. Thank goodness the Sims 4 sims are very beautiful without much effort. The look of the sims gives me lots of motivation to play the game and build my stories.
The sims 4 is absolutely not boring to me. I put over 730 hours playing it. Imagine it, all these hours and we still did not get seasons, university, generations, pets etc... The hours played will most probably double or triple once one of the popular EPs is released.
But my case with Sims 4 is an exception in that respect as well, in almost exactly the same way as you, because I basically very much dislike the sims in the game. They all look very fake and over the top to me and not beautiful at all. They feel like puppets, not humans. I in fact constantly delete and adjust passers-by because I can't stand their looks. And somehow I completely fail to feel their emotions. They all have this similar appearance and the only thing I like about them is the way they look in CAS with normal faces or when I make them completely cartoony. On top of that I'm not into the art style at all, it looks too candy land and plastic to me. Sims 3 art style often takes my breath away. I constantly feel like taking screenshots (and do), in Sims 4 never (except for the facial expressions of my own sims in the game). There is a lot to be improved where it comes to graphics in Sims 3 and the appearance of the sims (the default ones, I strongly disagree with your opinion about what you can achieve when you take the effort to get to know how the sliders work and CC definitely can improve them). So what is your point really. Sims 3 can't be enjoyable for you and Sims 4 can't be for others. Your whole post contradicts with what you say in the first paragraph (I hope you're not imagining your opinion is factual). Your only point here is that you like Sims 4 and that's great. And that you dislike Sims 3 and that's great too.
Wait... You are telling me Sims 4 sims all look the same but Sims 3 sims are unique?
What is the unique about these? The pudding face?
And these four sims look identical?
I strongly disagree. You can say you prefer Sims 3 art style, look, worlds, game play etc, but one thing is not Sims 3 sims and that is unique. The randomizer gives you the most horrible looking sims. All with piggish face syndrome
Anybody who has Sims 3 can try the randomizer and see. The townies are the most ugly townies. Even more than TS2.
Fortunately Sims 4 doesn't suffer from this and I find the randomizer and the game generated sims to be excellent in 90% of the time.
Oh dear. If those were your sims I can see why you hated the game. The four Sims 4 sims are different by the way, but I see their prototypes back in every story.
(we're derailing this topic by the way because it's not about the looks of sims, it's about the game being boring but ok)
All sims games depend 50% on imaginations and scenarios/stories the player can make
If you spice up the game with them then any game will be enjoyable.
My case with TS3 is an exception, because when I start that game and see how ugly the sims are I'm about to throw up. Even with tons and tons of CC I could never make them look decent to my taste. And not to forget also the awful loading times when trying to do something in CAS. That was too horrible. Thank goodness the Sims 4 sims are very beautiful without much effort. The look of the sims gives me lots of motivation to play the game and build my stories.
The sims 4 is absolutely not boring to me. I put over 730 hours playing it. Imagine it, all these hours and we still did not get seasons, university, generations, pets etc... The hours played will most probably double or triple once one of the popular EPs is released.
I agree with you to an extent. TS4 does have some very lovely sims (even without CC) but I've seen some really gorgeous sims over in the TS3 picture thread as well. Sure it does require a moderate amount of time, talent (and CC) to make those sims..but that's besides the point. I'm just saying that both games are capable of producing amazing results. I might not like TS3 non-cc sims but I wouldn't go as far as to say I'd "throw up" from looking at them. I feel you could have worded that a little better. I know how it feels to have my favorite TS game (TS4) be bashed on so I can sympathize with any simmer who considers TS3 game to be their favorite TS game and sees a ..uh... "not very nice comment" in that sentence of yours.
^^ I'm sorry if this reply may offend you.. but that's not my intention! We should all try to get along without tearing down each other's favorite games especially since they're all from the same franchise. All of them have issues one way or another. It doesn't stop us from playing and enjoying them though.~
No don't worry. It does not offend me.
What I am trying to say here in Sims 3 all you will find very ugly townies roaming in the town and you have to take lots of time in fixing every one of them. It was impossible. And by the time you fixed them all some will move out and others will move in. Hardly there is any control there.
How the Sims 3 sims looked was one of the main reasons why I could never get into The Sims 3. Even with ton of CC I was still not satisfied.
Ah, yes... well.. I mean, you may see it that way but other folks don't. There's no point in arguing that they're ugly because there's always going to be someone that disagree's and finds them to be appealing. It's just like @luthienrising said. It's a matter of taste. Trying to get a person who dislikes TS4 art style to like it (or TS4 person to like TS3 style) is like trying to get a hardcore rocker to suddenly start jamming to pop music. Not going to happen.
I didn't like what @Piperbird said but I'm not gonna uh.. "Bark up their tree" just because I disagree with them and they may disagree with me. We live in a world where everyone's tastes differ from our own and we just have to learn to deal with that. Sorry if it sounds like I'm preaching to you but...I just don't want you to make yourself look like a unreasonable self righteous person. ^^''
Well, there was this guy Kurt Cobain...
(agree with you again)
@GITTE2001 Looks like your using a skin. If you want to compare you need to do it vanilla.
I love both games, I really don't undersand why people feel the need to compare. Taste is taste.
Why do you 'need to' do that? If you don't like the looks of the sims you can use CC, why not?
The thing is, this game isn't originally meant to create catwalk models. I mean, you can do that and the results can be amazing, but gamewise it's meant to simulate lives and you need characters to do that with. And when you're fine with their looks you play the game with vanilla sims (I did between 2009-a month ago) and when you're not satisfied you search the internet to find CC that will suit your taste. I can assure you there's a lot of CC out there that looks worse to me than a vanilla Sims 3 sim, but that's me. The people who use it are very happy with it.
Since a month or so I'm using the skin Gitte is using as well (Primer HD skin from Kurasoberina) because it finally gave me what I was looking for: Sims 3 art style but a little bit better. One thing was important for me: I had to be able to still recognize my sim and I do.
@GITTE2001 Looks like your using a skin. If you want to compare you need to do it vanilla.
I love both games, I really don't undersand why people feel the need to compare. Taste is taste.
That's everything I use. A skin, but I know people who did make the prettiest sims for years with absolutely no cc. @JoAnne65 throw the Kobayne's around here again.
I already seen his Kobayne's and they look good, but in my opinion, sims 4 looks better vanilla.
And that's perfectly alright, but I don't. I tried to recreate one of my Sims 3 guys in Sims 4, but he's just meh.
The Sims 3 version is a guy I could fall in love with, the Sims 4 version is, I don't know, dull (ignore his hair, I downloaded the wrong cc). Nothing in his appearance 'touches' me, his Sims 3 version does. So you see, like everybody here explains, there's no right or wrong here, it's all a matter of preference. Because I created another guy in Sims 4 and I thought he was dull as well, but somebody sent me a message spontaneously and asked if she could have him because she liked him. I was genuinely surprised but there you go: she liked him and I hope he had a good life in her game.
I'm not all negative about sims in 4 by the way, I like them like this:
I could never create sims like that in Sims 3 and to bring it back on topic: I could really really enjoy this game with the sims I created here. I created them over the top and their behaviour suited them. But the game itself just couldn't hold my attention and that's the issue here.
@Joanne65 I never said I don't like the look of the sims 3, I just said I like the look of the sims 4 vanilla better. And I only said if you compare sims you have to compare them both in their vanilla state. And why you "need to do that?" Because its a more honest comparison.
Plus I have nothing against cc. I have used tons in both sims 3 and 4. And like we all have said many times, its all about taste.
@Swiftlover13 That would be a great sims game. Also with quicker loading time. Who knows for sims 5!
@Joanne65 I never said I don't like the look of the sims 3, I just said I like the look of the sims 4 vanilla better. And I only said if you compare sims you have to compare them both in their vanilla state. And why you "need to do that?" Because its a more honest comparison.
Plus I have nothing against cc. I have used tons in both sims 3 and 4. And like we all have said many times, its all about taste.
@Swiftlover13 That would be a great sims game. Also with quicker loading time. Who knows for sims 5!
I think you may have missed the inducement of Gitte's comment. Halimali1980 said that even with tons and tons of CC she could never make the sims in 3 look decent to her taste. After that she responded to me with a lot of pictures, some of them with CC. So CC or no CC wasn't the issue. The issue was: is it possible to play Sims 3 with attractive and varied sims. No, said Halimali. Yes, said Gitte, and showed hers.
@Joanne65 I never said I don't like the look of the sims 3, I just said I like the look of the sims 4 vanilla better. And I only said if you compare sims you have to compare them both in their vanilla state. And why you "need to do that?" Because its a more honest comparison.
Plus I have nothing against cc. I have used tons in both sims 3 and 4. And like we all have said many times, its all about taste.
@Swiftlover13 That would be a great sims game. Also with quicker loading time. Who knows for sims 5!
I think you may have missed the inducement of Gitte's comment. Halimali1980 said that even with tons and tons of CC she could never make the sims in 3 look decent to her taste. After that she responded to me with a lot of pictures, some of them with CC. So CC or no CC wasn't the issue. The issue was: is it possible to play Sims 3 with attractive and varied sims. No, said Halimali. Yes, said Gitte, and showed hers.
I don't think I read that post. Also @CravenLestat makes really good looking sims 3 sims, without cc. I wish I could. I would love to dump my cc folder like I did for sims 4.
@Joanne65 I never said I don't like the look of the sims 3, I just said I like the look of the sims 4 vanilla better. And I only said if you compare sims you have to compare them both in their vanilla state. And why you "need to do that?" Because its a more honest comparison.
Plus I have nothing against cc. I have used tons in both sims 3 and 4. And like we all have said many times, its all about taste.
@Swiftlover13 That would be a great sims game. Also with quicker loading time. Who knows for sims 5!
I think you may have missed the inducement of Gitte's comment. Halimali1980 said that even with tons and tons of CC she could never make the sims in 3 look decent to her taste. After that she responded to me with a lot of pictures, some of them with CC. So CC or no CC wasn't the issue. The issue was: is it possible to play Sims 3 with attractive and varied sims. No, said Halimali. Yes, said Gitte, and showed hers.
I don't think I read that post. Also @CravenLestat makes really good looking sims 3 sims, without cc. I wish I could. I would love to dump my cc folder like I did for sims 4.
Yes, I love what CravenLestat does to the (female) premades too. I played Sims 3 vanilla for years, but that's slowly changing. I embraced some NRaas mods and I have this skin now. That's all I need. I play Sims 4 sims vanilla too, I don't need CC for them (I for instance like their hair, in contrast to many) but I have some mods for the game as well.
I guess everything gets boring after a while. But I agree that I find myself more easily bored with Ts4 than with Ts2. As other have pointed out, in my case it all comes down to predictability. EA has taken the "you rule" thing a little too far and now I feel like I have too much control over my sims lives (and I thought I was a micro-manager!). There are no random accidents or deaths (I even downloaded a mod so that fires occur more often), I don't think your sims can get fired if they pick the wrong option in chance cards, etc. sims lives are way too predictable...an event-less life in real life can be a good thing (for some) but for the sims 4 It can be pretty boring.
Also I guess things will get better when we have more content and stuff for our sims to do (restaurants, toddlers, hobbies etc)
I think I have to agree with @luthienrising that a lot of this is a matter of taste. Whether TS3 sims or TS4 sims look better is very subjective. They are very different art styles.
In terms of gameplay, it depends on what you're looking for. I will say that the base of TS4 had less than TS3 (or TS2 for that matter), although I enjoyed the aesthetics and playability of TS4 more than TS3 (I would say TS2 is my favorite of the series). That said, I have enjoyed TS4 more since some of the DLC has come out. For example, Get Together is a game-changer for me because I could do a lot more in terms of gameplay, even with children, than I had been able to previously. For example, I just finished from taking my girl scout troop on a camping trip. That's the kind of stuff I couldn't do even in previous iterations of the game.
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And a sims 3 fan
The problem is most of us are not it. For example, I bought the game when it first came out, and I can count on my hands the number of times I've loaded up my game in the past year and a half. I don't even have cumulatively a month's play out of this game.
Some of us are still holding out hoping that the game will get better, but a lot of players have given up on this franchise entirely. If EA doesn't step up the gameplay this year, I'm pretty sure the 'a lot' from the 'some' of us are also going to give up. Hopefully, the sales reflect enough of the discontentment so that EA will be forced to take action--if not, oh well. The Sims was great while it lasted
But it was just as easy to make a theater in TS3, just like it was in TS4. Townies will always use the objects you place for them.
People who play the vanilla game and never change anything have no idea what they're missing. I place all the major content on community lots and my lots are always full. I have a casino that is full of adults and elders that just love squandering their family funds. Everyone in town was obsessed with my SimFu academy that I had to add a second one on the other side of town. It was a popping business. They hung out at the school to play on the basketball hoops outside. They went to the roller rink. They played soccer at the park. They used instruments and painted at the community center. They hunted Easter eggs at the park. They ate that shaved ice stuff at the beach.
The games have always been what you make of them. Some just offered a lot more than others.
I'm neither, but I do love the way TS4 sims look, so I'm going to stick by my point that the criticism of TS4's limitations compared to TS3 is not a 'fan' thing while ignoring the game's limitations is a 'fan' thing.
I'm a fan of some really sucky music groups, and their flaws--in my opinion--are what make up their charm. So yeah, if someone told my one of my favourite musicians was a bad singer and demonstrated through comparison what makes a skilled vocalist, my only response would be I don't think so, because I'm a fan. Their criticism might be based on the fact that they understand music better than I do, or maybe because they aren't a fan--but it's not just because they are not a fan of the musician.
The comment "I see, your not a sims 4 fan" dismisses the critical argument, the same way "I see, your a sims 4 fan" dismisses the argument, but as they say: if you have to expain it...
A lot of those things you are naming are not in the basegame of sims 3.
To be fair watching movies was also not in sims 4 base game.
So just taking family interactions between basegames, sims 4 has more depth in my opinion.
I think with both games they grow better with more expansion packs, because it means more things to do and interactions.
I do miss my pets and supernaturals from sims 3 and hope they will be back soon in sims 4.
Oh and of course toddlers, that is one life stage they should have never removed. Personally I didn't play them much after doing everthing a couple of times, but they just belong in the sims, from the moment they were born in sims 2.
Yep that's it. I've 'played' 42 hours according to origin. I'm pretty sure that included the CAS demo and I pop in to try things with patches to see if anything has changed to draw me in but as of yet it's a no.
Luckily I never used mods so I went back and modded TS2 and TS3 to mess about with-so it was like having two 'new' games to play when TS4 wasn't fun for me.
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I hope you're right. That is at least what I'm banking on!
I feel for you. To not be a fan of either must be kind of sad actually. When the sims 5 comes out i hope it's a better alternative to the sims 3, but until then i'm more then happy with the game. I can skip one generation just fine, but i may have trouble with 2 we will see.
It's more of a disappointment thing. I was super gung-ho when TS4 announced because it was originally marketed to be TS2.5, and I wrongly assumed that it was going to take all the awesome of TS3, worlds, content, more gameplay and customisation and combine that with a refocus on the Sims themselves. The Sims in TS4 are so boring, my stats show that without cheats my sim is Energised, Happy, or Uncomfortable all of the time. And the Energised just comes from the brisk shower
In case my post doesn't make sense: I thought TS4 would be the best of TS2 (gorgeous sims with emotional, unique personalities and interactions) and TS3 (amazing worlds, content, adventures, etc). Instead we got sims less smart than TS3 sims, and loading screens. It's like they took the worst part of both games and said "there are you happy?!"
I created movie theaters in both TS3 and TS4 base games. Because I use my imagination to find alternative ways to play using the content I am given. And I will mod the heck out of my game because I love to create my own way of playing.
You are right, there was not a lot of content in TS3 base. There was even less in TS4. What you call family interactions in 4, I call meaningless. In 4, any sim can perform any interaction with any child if their relationship points are high enough, except the family kiss. That breaks my family bond because they treat every child like their own child. I don't think there was much in the game for families in TS3 base game. I complained then, too. It came around eventually, which is what I am hoping for here. That's why I've been all over that toddler thread. I want it. They only need to kind of sort of ask for my opinion. I'll tell them everything I want until I'm blue in the face.
Well i certainly hope everyone gets what they are looking for out of any1 of the sims series. I knew a long long time ago that the sims 4 wasn't going to be for me due to the lack of an open world so i was never ever disappointed, quite the opposite really. I found that almost immediately after the last EP that EA announced a sims 4. i was kind of worried that it wasn't going to be as good as the sims 3 and i was just starting to get into that game at the time. I almost feel that when a sims series ends its so complete that people just want time to play it for at least 2 or 3 years before a new game gets released. It kind of worked out in a good way for me because now I'm guaranteed a few more great years of sims 3 play.
(we're derailing this topic by the way because it's not about the looks of sims, it's about the game being boring but ok)
(agree with you again)
The thing is, this game isn't originally meant to create catwalk models. I mean, you can do that and the results can be amazing, but gamewise it's meant to simulate lives and you need characters to do that with. And when you're fine with their looks you play the game with vanilla sims (I did between 2009-a month ago) and when you're not satisfied you search the internet to find CC that will suit your taste. I can assure you there's a lot of CC out there that looks worse to me than a vanilla Sims 3 sim, but that's me. The people who use it are very happy with it.
Since a month or so I'm using the skin Gitte is using as well (Primer HD skin from Kurasoberina) because it finally gave me what I was looking for: Sims 3 art style but a little bit better. One thing was important for me: I had to be able to still recognize my sim and I do. And that's perfectly alright, but I don't. I tried to recreate one of my Sims 3 guys in Sims 4, but he's just meh.
The Sims 3 version is a guy I could fall in love with, the Sims 4 version is, I don't know, dull (ignore his hair, I downloaded the wrong cc). Nothing in his appearance 'touches' me, his Sims 3 version does. So you see, like everybody here explains, there's no right or wrong here, it's all a matter of preference. Because I created another guy in Sims 4 and I thought he was dull as well, but somebody sent me a message spontaneously and asked if she could have him because she liked him. I was genuinely surprised but there you go: she liked him and I hope he had a good life in her game.
I'm not all negative about sims in 4 by the way, I like them like this:
I could never create sims like that in Sims 3 and to bring it back on topic: I could really really enjoy this game with the sims I created here. I created them over the top and their behaviour suited them. But the game itself just couldn't hold my attention and that's the issue here.
My perfect Sims game would be Sims 3 with smoother animations, less lag and Sims 4 CAS.
What's a 'best of' section?
Right on top
Plus I have nothing against cc. I have used tons in both sims 3 and 4. And like we all have said many times, its all about taste.
@Swiftlover13 That would be a great sims game. Also with quicker loading time. Who knows for sims 5!
I don't think I read that post. Also @CravenLestat makes really good looking sims 3 sims, without cc. I wish I could. I would love to dump my cc folder like I did for sims 4.
Also I guess things will get better when we have more content and stuff for our sims to do (restaurants, toddlers, hobbies etc)
In terms of gameplay, it depends on what you're looking for. I will say that the base of TS4 had less than TS3 (or TS2 for that matter), although I enjoyed the aesthetics and playability of TS4 more than TS3 (I would say TS2 is my favorite of the series). That said, I have enjoyed TS4 more since some of the DLC has come out. For example, Get Together is a game-changer for me because I could do a lot more in terms of gameplay, even with children, than I had been able to previously. For example, I just finished from taking my girl scout troop on a camping trip. That's the kind of stuff I couldn't do even in previous iterations of the game.
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