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Anyone else wonder why there are 57 thousand types of foos ball tables in the sims but not one air hockey table or a board game or a simple card table (not the robotic casino tables, I have those, I mean to hang with friends playing cards) - I'm from MI, we all play Euchre here but my grandparents and parents use to play all sorts of card games. Half of my friends play board games irl (one of my friends even owns a combo coffee bar tabletop game shop/hangout called The Dragon's Roost - best place in the world <3 ) but they're markedly absent from the game. Not even bingo, and believe it or not there are giant groups of people who love to play bingo! (I don't, but they must be crawling out of the woodwork because half the churches I drive by have bingo nights every week! :lol: ) I mean I don't even own all of the ownable foos and I have 6! lol

What about you? Any type of entertainment you're surprised isn't in the game?

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    puzzlezaddictpuzzlezaddict Posts: 1,877 Member
    Anyone else wonder why there are 57 thousand types of foos ball tables in the sims but not one air hockey table or a board game or a simple card table

    Maybe because after they wrote the code for the original foosball table all those years ago, all they had to do was design a few new shells for the table and resell each one as new content. A card or board game would require new animations, and can you imagine the work it would take to program the puck on an air hockey table to properly ricochet? Much less effort to stick with what already exists.

    Case in point: The store sells this hockey game as a separate item, but of course it's just foosball-themed hockey, with a design that vaguely suggests a hockey rink instead of a soccer field.
    https://store.thesims3.com/productDetail.html?productId=OFB-SIM3:21858

    I think there are mods for other kinds of games though, if you're interested.
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    lisasc360lisasc360 Posts: 19,286 Member
    Yeah I wish that EA had added board games as well but at least I can download that ones on ATS3 to use. They just use the chess animations when you have your Sims playing them but I guess that is good enough for me... :)
    https://aroundthesims3.com/objects/function_entertainment_hobbies_02.shtml
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    igazorigazor Posts: 19,330 Member
    edited August 2019
    There is one (up to) 4 person table game that I use frequently for family and group game night -- dominoes. It comes with Showtime, for whatever reason. Anyway, I see that one as a pretty good representative of board/card games. Other than that there's video games and pool (billiards). But I don't remember hanging out at my friends' houses shooting pool very much as a child, and the selections of video games we had back in the Stone Age before most houses had electricity game consoles was pretty limited. :)

    Bingo is another matter. I was lamenting the lack of that one back at NRaas not long ago and was thinking of it more as a community lot activity with a Role Sim calling the numbers, excitement builds as players get close to completing their card, and the winners get a cash prize or some small kitchen appliance that no one needs. Probably modding all of that in would be more complicated than just designing a whole new game or expansion pack to house it, though. :/
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    AbellaKellaherAbellaKellaher Posts: 852 Member
    Anyone else wonder why there are 57 thousand types of foos ball tables in the sims but not one air hockey table or a board game or a simple card table

    Maybe because after they wrote the code for the original foosball table all those years ago, all they had to do was design a few new shells for the table and resell each one as new content.
    Oh this obviously is the reason they recycled the foos, sure, but there are plenty of other things they could have recycled. They recycled the Gnubb set with horseshoes, a poker table for home was already in TS2 and the animations were already in TS3 so a card table would have been easy. Board game games would be pretty easy to adapt other animations as well - shaking dice could be accomplished with the same animation to make a drink, moving pieces could easily be recycled from chess or dominoes. Heck, dominoes could have been recycled as Scrabble easily. :)


    A card or board game would require new animations, and can you imagine the work it would take to program the puck on an air hockey table to properly ricochet? Much less effort to stick with what already exists.

    Actually that animation already exists, too, with pool tables. And honestly that's not that difficult really. I like to consider myself slightly more computer savy than most but in my family I'm surrounded by coder savants lol. Mimicking ricochet is nothing but math really. It's direction + speed + redirection - speed. In fact if you want to be technical, it'd be more difficult to program pool table ricochet due to the 3 dimensions of the sphere and the 360 degrees of possible english, but I haven't watched the pool games in this game closely enough to see if they account for english as well as direction and speed. They also use ricochet with the foos table balls I think, though I could be wrong :)


    I think there are mods for other kinds of games though, if you're interested.


    Other than a few basic NRAAS mods (and a couple other well known ones like anylotsize) I strive to remain CC free. It's just always been bad news for me lol. But thank you for the suggestion! I get pretty tempted for CC now and again but so far this time around I've remained strong :)
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    SuzyCue72SuzyCue72 Posts: 526 Member
    What about you? Any type of entertainment you're surprised isn't in the game?

    Yes... lawn mowing and vacuum cleaning! :D:D:D
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    igazorigazor Posts: 19,330 Member
    LOL, now those sound like fun. But TS3 does have vacuum cleaners, so there's an already in-game object (from Supernatural) just begging to be re-used for some purpose other than speedy transportation.
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    AbellaKellaherAbellaKellaher Posts: 852 Member
    igazor wrote: »
    There is one (up to) 4 person table game that I use frequently for family and group game night -- dominoes. It comes with Showtime, for whatever reason. Anyway, I see that one as a pretty good representative of board/card games. Other than that there's video games and pool (billiards). But I don't remember hanging out at my friends' houses shooting pool very much as a child, and the selections of video games we had back in the Stone Age before most houses had electricity game consoles was pretty limited. :)

    I grew up a gamer, from my first 2600 on :) We had a pool table but I never wanted to hang with my friends at my house lol. But even still my family and friends even now play all sorts of board games, card games, etc. irl. Poker, Gin, Hearts, Spades, Cribbage, Euchre, you name it. Card games from Uno to Exploding Kittens or Bears Vs Babies, board games from Trivial Pursuit, to Dominion, to LNOE. A friend of my husband's even owns a super cool table top game coffee shop called The Dragon's Roost. Maybe it's a regional thing? I played board games with my friends all the time growing up, too.

    Bingo is another matter. I was lamenting the lack of that one back at NRaas not long ago and was thinking of it more as a community lot activity with a Role Sim calling the numbers, excitement builds as players get close to completing their card, and the winners get a cash prize or some small kitchen appliance that no one needs. Probably modding all of that in would be more complicated than just designing a whole new game or expansion pack to house it, though. :/

    that would be so awesome <3 Little old lady sims have nothing to do besides drink tea. No Bridge clubs or quilting circles, no bingo! :lol::lol:
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    AbellaKellaherAbellaKellaher Posts: 852 Member
    lisasc360 wrote: »
    Yeah I wish that EA had added board games as well but at least I can download that ones on ATS3 to use. They just use the chess animations when you have your Sims playing them but I guess that is good enough for me... :)
    https://aroundthesims3.com/objects/function_entertainment_hobbies_02.shtml

    I use to be an ATS junkie! Gah, I wish Maxis would have been even half as clever lol.
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    lisasc360lisasc360 Posts: 19,286 Member
    lisasc360 wrote: »
    Yeah I wish that EA had added board games as well but at least I can download that ones on ATS3 to use. They just use the chess animations when you have your Sims playing them but I guess that is good enough for me... :)
    https://aroundthesims3.com/objects/function_entertainment_hobbies_02.shtml

    I use to be an ATS junkie! Gah, I wish Maxis would have been even half as clever lol.

    I will admit that I am a ATS3 junkie myself but I haven't really downloaded much from there now as I have what I want. I did download The Palm Tree Loveseat that Sandy made and put out on July 11th. But yeah, you're right, I too wish that most of the CC that's out there was put in by EA themselves such as the clutter and all as it makes my Sims houses more real and not looking like a model home... :)
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    MikezumiMikezumi Posts: 49,697 Member
    On one hand I would like for there to be different types of games that sims could play together but, on the other, I dread the thought of how much time it would take for them to do so. When my sims invite friends over it's all I can do to have my sims talk with them for a while and, by the time they eat a meal and have a few chats, it's time for them to go home. I can just imagine one sim hour disappearing while everyone was taking their places just to play a game together. It's all well and good if sims visit for the whole day but a visit which lasts a few hours (which is what I would consider the perfect visit in real life) would make playing a game together impossible with the way sim time flies.
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    AbellaKellaherAbellaKellaher Posts: 852 Member
    Mikezumi wrote: »
    On one hand I would like for there to be different types of games that sims could play together but, on the other, I dread the thought of how much time it would take for them to do so. When my sims invite friends over it's all I can do to have my sims talk with them for a while and, by the time they eat a meal and have a few chats, it's time for them to go home. I can just imagine one sim hour disappearing while everyone was taking their places just to play a game together. It's all well and good if sims visit for the whole day but a visit which lasts a few hours (which is what I would consider the perfect visit in real life) would make playing a game together impossible with the way sim time flies.

    :lol::lol::lol: SO TRUE!!
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    MikezumiMikezumi Posts: 49,697 Member

    Little old lady sims have nothing to do besides drink tea. No Bridge clubs or quilting circles, no bingo! :lol::lol:

    Sounds fine to me ;) I drink tea all day while playing the sims or going through the forum.
    My elder SS, though, has a very full life and doesn't have time for bridge clubs, quilting circles or bingo. ;)
    I used to wish that sims could knit or crochet because that's what I enjoy but, unless there were an actual garment or usable item produced from handcrafts, I would find it pointless.
    I can see how different types of games/activities would be desirable to those simmers who tell stories with their sims but I like to think of a sim's day as just being the snippets we can see rather than their whole day given my sims' lives are usually over in less than 100 days.

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    AuroraskiesAuroraskies Posts: 1,834 Member
    Can't say I'm surprised since that would require an expectation or anticipation of things being different; but I do wish there would have been a 'cue-able' purely social activity that the particular things sims can say to eachother could follow, like a timed interaction with a subsequent pie menu of chat options. I find the domino table charming but if it were like the games I played as younger it should raise language and painting and social skills; not just logic as it is now. And a great entertainment in life I have always thought to be eating and drinking in good company, and that for hours on end; but playing on high free will as I always do, the sims just don't stay put in the sofa socializing, or sit down together for a bite, unless I take actions to make their surroundings boring enough with nothing to draw their sweet, but rather short in attention spent, minds towards.
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    jillbgjillbg Posts: 4,600 Member
    edited August 2019
    @AbellaKellaher Sandy's monopoly and board games using the chess animation! Enjoy! :)

    https://aroundthesims3.com/objects/function_entertainment_hobbies_02.shtml

    There's a poker game, too.
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    AbellaKellaherAbellaKellaher Posts: 852 Member
    Thanks everyone who is pointing me toward CC that offer range of various board games - I appreciate that so much! :) I don't really use CC but if I change my mind I'll definitely be happy with everything that everyone has offered :) It was more meant just a rhetorical comment and a conversation but it's so nice that so many people are trying to help! :) It's one of the reasons I like this forum :)
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    AbellaKellaherAbellaKellaher Posts: 852 Member
    Oh and I know this isn't a board game, but I really wish sims could hold hands (like we do irl, not the animation in the game) like for walking or even just standing, especially with parents/children. And I wish that "shake hands" was an interaction. The only time you can shake hands in the game now is when sims first meet. The people I've known irl do a LOT of handshaking. Half the men on my husband's side of the family shake hands every time they see each other. When I owned my own business I shook my clients hands every time I met with them, etc.

    I guess I must just know very handsy people :lol::lol:
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    igazorigazor Posts: 19,330 Member
    edited August 2019
    Sims will also shake hands when you have them visit another household's lot in order to be greeted and allowed inside. Sometimes that looks fine, but I have to say it looks ridiculous when you are visiting your best friend's house or that of someone your sim is dating. Or even more silly, when your sim's parents or grown children come over for a visit. :|
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    cwaddellcwaddell Posts: 4,960 Member
    edited August 2019
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    What about you? Any type of entertainment you're surprised isn't in the game?

    I have fund memories of playing cribbage in bars in the Alaskan "bush". I would like to see that but it would probably be easiest to implement on a table rather than on a bar top. And how about mah jong using the domino animations, or do they already have that?
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    igazorigazor Posts: 19,330 Member
    edited August 2019
    @cwaddell - Off-topic I guess, but my dad and I still play cribbage whenever I am visiting and there's no one else around to play multi-player games. Could never stand the 3- and 4-player versions, but 2-handed is still fun. He is of the opinion that no one else on the planet plays this game anymore, but I didn't think that was quite right. :)

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    bekkasanbekkasan Posts: 10,171 Member

    off topic but hubby and I played cribbage and when he was in hospital we played when he felt up to it and taught some of the staff how to play. A few had never heard of it.

    I would love to have seen sims play twister! I really am dating myself here but, I think most of y'all already know I am ancient.
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    cwaddellcwaddell Posts: 4,960 Member
    igazor wrote: »
    @cwaddell - Off-topic I guess, but my dad and I still play cribbage whenever I am visiting and there's no one else around to play multi-player games. Could never stand the 3- and 4-player versions, but 2-handed is still fun. He is of the opinion that no one else on the planet plays this game anymore, but I didn't think that was quite right. :)

    There's a 3 and 4 player version? Don't think I'd like that either. Haven't played cribbage in ages.

    My family plays a lot of card games and board games when we get together - latest favorites are Settlers of Catan and Ticker to Ride.
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    EvalenEvalen Posts: 10,223 Member
    I don't think I want my elder sims to be knitting, drinking tea, and sitting around quilting groups. Why my male sim Bo Dexter is still doing Karate, jogs, fishes and a lot of other things like going to France and etc. I want them to be active until they pass away.
    I can't do all those things at my age, but my sims can and I love it. It is nice to pretend that being old does not stop you. My sims can do everything a younger sim can.
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    AbellaKellaherAbellaKellaher Posts: 852 Member
    igazor wrote: »
    @cwaddell - Off-topic I guess, but my dad and I still play cribbage whenever I am visiting and there's no one else around to play multi-player games. Could never stand the 3- and 4-player versions, but 2-handed is still fun. He is of the opinion that no one else on the planet plays this game anymore, but I didn't think that was quite right. :)
    My mom (RIP) and bro stopped playing with me because I'm fairly adept at math and calculating odds and they got tired of losing to me :lol: but my brother and SIL play cribbage all the time. They even have 2 29's pinned to their wall :) My grandpa was a mean ol' cus to play with I guess, stealing points, etc. I never played with him but that might be because I was his favorite and he couldn't be even remotely mean to me :lol: I've played with my dad a couple times, but it just feels awkward, he's not really a cards kind of guy :lol:
    cwaddell wrote: »
    There's a 3 and 4 player version? Don't think I'd like that either. Haven't played cribbage in ages.

    My family plays a lot of card games and board games when we get together - latest favorites are Settlers of Catan and Ticker to Ride.

    You just put different amounts of cards in the kitty. For three handed you just deal an extra card to the kitty iirc.
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    igazorigazor Posts: 19,330 Member
    edited August 2019
    Yes, but the issue I have with 3- and 4-handed is that the player has far less control over things. I can't play a card in hopes that you will pair it so I can make three-of-a-kind (a "pair royal" to purists) or play a sequential card hoping to extend a run (straight) that gets started because another player or two get to go in between. And only being able to put one card in the crib rather than two just never felt right, you can't put a pair or a 7-8 for example in your own crib that way. The game becomes more luck than strategy when locked into these things, although the mechanics and scoring are the same.

    Somehow I think our sims would enjoy it, though.

    My dad and I play cut-throat in the sense that we will pounce on unclaimed points if one of us makes a mistake in scoring and misses something, but we would never cheat or be unfair. We might try to distract each other ("hey, what is that outside of the window?") when adding up the points for a complicated hand or if a run (straight) is formed during play, but that's just part of the fun for us. :)
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