Seems kind of cheap if they decide to add reading in lounge chairs to a University pack. Tanning and Sunbathing I could understand keeping that action to an EP because Base game doesn't have summer to tan or sunburn the sims. But the base game does have books so I feel it should be a free update to the base game. especially since so far it looks like the only action you can do with a lounge chair is sit lounge and drink.
Maybe it will be included in a pre-University patch.
It’s by design simgurunick asked when someone tweeted him about it. They can drink drinks while relaxing but cannot read or talk to others. I wish they could but hopefully it will be added. At least they are in the game now.
Whoa, wait, they can't talk to other sims while lounging? Or use their phones or read a book? Really? Hmmmm. I know it's part of the patch, but now I'm wondering what on earth we've been waiting for if we're just getting a semi-reclined position where our sims cannot interact with anything but a drink.
It’s by design simgurunick asked when someone tweeted him about it. They can drink drinks while relaxing but cannot read or talk to others. I wish they could but hopefully it will be added. At least they are in the game now.
Whoa, wait, they can't talk to other sims while lounging? Or use their phones or read a book? Really? Hmmmm. I know it's part of the patch, but now I'm wondering what on earth we've been waiting for if we're just getting a semi-reclined position where our sims cannot interact with anything but a drink.
Hmmmm. This is seriously disappointing.
The sims don't even look relaxed in the lounge chair
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The math doesn’t quite add up here. We were told these things were so difficult to create because of multitasking. Ok, fair enough. Sooooooooo how come they aren’t compatible? Multitasking is a core feature of the game, how can it be so easily discarded? This is the definition of poor work. These things do less than they did in Sims 2 and 3, and they didn’t even do much there. Hard to trust anything the studio says when they say one thing and then do a completely different thing.
It’s by design simgurunick asked when someone tweeted him about it. They can drink drinks while relaxing but cannot read or talk to others. I wish they could but hopefully it will be added. At least they are in the game now.
I'm so baffled that they even need feedback about this. Of course people expect to be able to talk on lounge chairs! The whole game is promoted for its emotions and multi-tasking. Obviously we expected some more from a lounge chair than just some lying down animation.
I am just happy we get free stuff at all and now have actual lounge chairs for pools. Who reads at the beach or near water anyways? Good way to ruin books and the beach is meant for swimming and all that. If I want my sim to read, she would do it elsewhere.
Seriously?
Well this statement is definitely why we keep getting half baked content. 🤷
What about keeping open options for those who DO what to do that? I've read by the beach before in the past as well as taken a nap. We all do different things and play different ways and should have the OPEN options to do so.
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Seems kind of cheap if they decide to add reading in lounge chairs to a University pack. Tanning and Sunbathing I could understand keeping that action to an EP because Base game doesn't have summer to tan or sunburn the sims. But the base game does have books so I feel it should be a free update to the base game. especially since so far it looks like the only action you can do with a lounge chair is sit lounge and drink.
Maybe it will be included in a pre-University patch.
Why do you and others who comment like you keep letting EAxis get away with this with comments like this? It's always maybe they will do it next patch or the patch after that. It took how long for us to get lounge chairs and they still half baked it. To be honest I'm sick of it and sick of holding my tongue about it. I didn't pay all this money to get half baked base game content that came COMPLETED, mind you, in previous iterations base game. It's not right. And then we get simmers like you who keep commenting like this is okay. Now wonder this game keeps getting all this problematic half baked content with no real fixes.
Btw don't care if I get banned for saying this. I'm sick of it all. And tired of watching what I say on here. They need to hear this. It's honest feedback from an unsatisfied customers who's been a customer for over a decade.
You sum it up perfectly. Players need to be more vocal if they are dissatisfied with content rather than just sitting and being patient, otherwise nothing will be done. I think Maxis should put out polls or surveys of some kind after every patch that adds content like this, so players can put in responses about each element added in regards to whether they are satisfied or not. That way things might be rectified sooner, and it could bring attention to these kinds of issues. List each feature, list a rating between 1 and 10 and then leave a space for the user to explain their rating.
Waiting this long for content that was done better practically 15 years ago isn't right. People have scolded me for bringing up past games so often, saying that The Sims 4 is more complex, but if it's more complex why aren't we seeing more complex interactions? Why can't Sims perform more multitasking interactions with a lounge chair, in this case?
Seems kind of cheap if they decide to add reading in lounge chairs to a University pack. Tanning and Sunbathing I could understand keeping that action to an EP because Base game doesn't have summer to tan or sunburn the sims. But the base game does have books so I feel it should be a free update to the base game. especially since so far it looks like the only action you can do with a lounge chair is sit lounge and drink.
Maybe it will be included in a pre-University patch.
Why do you and others who comment like you keep letting EAxis get away with this with comments like this? It's always maybe they will do it next patch or the patch after that. It took how long for us to get lounge chairs and they still half baked it. To be honest I'm sick of it and sick of holding my tongue about it. I didn't pay all this money to get half baked base game content that came COMPLETED, mind you, in previous iterations base game. It's not right. And then we get simmers like you who keep commenting like this is okay. Now wonder this game keeps getting all this problematic half baked content with no real fixes.
Btw don't care if I get banned for saying this. I'm sick of it all. And tired of watching what I say on here. They need to hear this. It's honest feedback from an unsatisfied customers who's been a customer for over a decade.
You're giving me, and others who comment like me, too much credit. There is a fixed budget for animations. You'll never know what would have been left out if sleeping, reading, and reclined talking animations had been added to lounge chairs but there is always a trade off. It's been almost 5 years. You should know that by now.
Seems kind of cheap if they decide to add reading in lounge chairs to a University pack. Tanning and Sunbathing I could understand keeping that action to an EP because Base game doesn't have summer to tan or sunburn the sims. But the base game does have books so I feel it should be a free update to the base game. especially since so far it looks like the only action you can do with a lounge chair is sit lounge and drink.
Maybe it will be included in a pre-University patch.
Why do you and others who comment like you keep letting EAxis get away with this with comments like this? It's always maybe they will do it next patch or the patch after that. It took how long for us to get lounge chairs and they still half baked it. To be honest I'm sick of it and sick of holding my tongue about it. I didn't pay all this money to get half baked base game content that came COMPLETED, mind you, in previous iterations base game. It's not right. And then we get simmers like you who keep commenting like this is okay. Now wonder this game keeps getting all this problematic half baked content with no real fixes.
Btw don't care if I get banned for saying this. I'm sick of it all. And tired of watching what I say on here. They need to hear this. It's honest feedback from an unsatisfied customers who's been a customer for over a decade.
You're giving me, and others who comment like me, too much credit. There is a fixed budget for animations. You'll never know what would have been left out if sleeping, reading, and reclined talking animations had been added to lounge chairs but there is always a trade off. It's been almost 5 years. You should know that by now.
I wonder why tradeoffs even exist with a BILLION dollar gaming company? In 2019?
Seems kind of cheap if they decide to add reading in lounge chairs to a University pack. Tanning and Sunbathing I could understand keeping that action to an EP because Base game doesn't have summer to tan or sunburn the sims. But the base game does have books so I feel it should be a free update to the base game. especially since so far it looks like the only action you can do with a lounge chair is sit lounge and drink.
Maybe it will be included in a pre-University patch.
Why do you and others who comment like you keep letting EAxis get away with this with comments like this? It's always maybe they will do it next patch or the patch after that. It took how long for us to get lounge chairs and they still half baked it. To be honest I'm sick of it and sick of holding my tongue about it. I didn't pay all this money to get half baked base game content that came COMPLETED, mind you, in previous iterations base game. It's not right. And then we get simmers like you who keep commenting like this is okay. Now wonder this game keeps getting all this problematic half baked content with no real fixes.
Btw don't care if I get banned for saying this. I'm sick of it all. And tired of watching what I say on here. They need to hear this. It's honest feedback from an unsatisfied customers who's been a customer for over a decade.
You're giving me, and others who comment like me, too much credit. There is a fixed budget for animations. You'll never know what would have been left out if sleeping, reading, and reclined talking animations had been added to lounge chairs but there is always a trade off. It's been almost 5 years. You should know that by now.
I wonder why tradeoffs even exist with a BILLION dollar gaming company? In 2019?
*raises hand* Oh, I know, I know! Because they can get away with it!
In all seriousness, it's ridiculous how people are protective as if TS4 is developed by some small indie company with 2 people. It is not. But why bother with more resources when there is no competition at all and people will buy all DLC, no matter what.
You might have to wait for Island Life to be out before you get to lie down on lounge chairs I expect. Maxis might unlock it for everybody then. At least you might wait until after that to complain if you don't.
You might have to wait for Island Life to be out before you get to lie down on lounge chairs I expect. Maxis might unlock it for everybody then. At least you might wait until after that to complain if you don't.
Everybody got lounge chairs with the latest patch.
Seems kind of cheap if they decide to add reading in lounge chairs to a University pack. Tanning and Sunbathing I could understand keeping that action to an EP because Base game doesn't have summer to tan or sunburn the sims. But the base game does have books so I feel it should be a free update to the base game. especially since so far it looks like the only action you can do with a lounge chair is sit lounge and drink.
Maybe it will be included in a pre-University patch.
Why do you and others who comment like you keep letting EAxis get away with this with comments like this? It's always maybe they will do it next patch or the patch after that. It took how long for us to get lounge chairs and they still half baked it. To be honest I'm sick of it and sick of holding my tongue about it. I didn't pay all this money to get half baked base game content that came COMPLETED, mind you, in previous iterations base game. It's not right. And then we get simmers like you who keep commenting like this is okay. Now wonder this game keeps getting all this problematic half baked content with no real fixes.
Btw don't care if I get banned for saying this. I'm sick of it all. And tired of watching what I say on here. They need to hear this. It's honest feedback from an unsatisfied customers who's been a customer for over a decade.
You're giving me, and others who comment like me, too much credit. There is a fixed budget for animations. You'll never know what would have been left out if sleeping, reading, and reclined talking animations had been added to lounge chairs but there is always a trade off. It's been almost 5 years. You should know that by now.
We were told the cost of producing lounge chairs that were compatible with multitasking was literally the hold up. We were told this was the reason we would never see them in any pack other than an expansion because the sheer cost of doing them the right way was too much for any other pack.
So instead of defending the poor work put on display with the lounger why not try being realistic? Why are we now settling for trade offs when literally we were told exactly what the holdup was, and now that all is said and done that wasn’t even remotely true.
What would have been cut if they would have done what they said they were doing all along? No idea, but I’m not going to pretend that their rational makes sense here - at all. They have discarded a core component of the game, does that kind of thing really not matter to you? Stand up for this game if you like it so much, complacency is just allowing them to take advantage of people who defend the straight up lies they tell.
ETA: like if they were gonna do so little they should have came out with this years ago. They brought backlash on themselves by misleading players here 110% for YEARS. Can’t even disagree there because they absolutely did that, and they did it because they know a handful of simmers will defend anything they do no matter what. No offense but that’s exactly what you have been doing this whole thread and it’s very annoying.
I'm not at all offended because I do understand the sentiments expressed in this thread. Call it defending EA or whatever you want but it's just not an issue for me. Even with it's shortcomings I still enjoy the game and prefer this version over the others. Sorry. 🤷
it's really kind of sad when even the constantly happy sims in 4 are disappointed in the lounge chairs. I played a little bit with them last night and they can 'relax' my sim was focused the entire time in the lounger, and they can nap. That was all I was able to get her to do.
I feel like we could multitask better on loungers in older iterations of the game than in sims 4, which multitasking was never a selling point for 2 or 3. My sim never even got a relaxed moodlet from the lounger. Didn't even pull out her phone either, just sat there like this staring at the concrete. I can't believe they waited almost 5 years to put out this lounger.
The fact that lounge chairs have basically no interactions other than just lying there is very disappointing. I have no idea why they couldn't add the same things we can do on regular chair to lounge chairs.
Seems kind of cheap if they decide to add reading in lounge chairs to a University pack. Tanning and Sunbathing I could understand keeping that action to an EP because Base game doesn't have summer to tan or sunburn the sims. But the base game does have books so I feel it should be a free update to the base game. especially since so far it looks like the only action you can do with a lounge chair is sit lounge and drink.
Maybe it will be included in a pre-University patch.
Why do you and others who comment like you keep letting EAxis get away with this with comments like this? It's always maybe they will do it next patch or the patch after that. It took how long for us to get lounge chairs and they still half baked it. To be honest I'm sick of it and sick of holding my tongue about it. I didn't pay all this money to get half baked base game content that came COMPLETED, mind you, in previous iterations base game. It's not right. And then we get simmers like you who keep commenting like this is okay. Now wonder this game keeps getting all this problematic half baked content with no real fixes.
Btw don't care if I get banned for saying this. I'm sick of it all. And tired of watching what I say on here. They need to hear this. It's honest feedback from an unsatisfied customers who's been a customer for over a decade.
You're giving me, and others who comment like me, too much credit. There is a fixed budget for animations. You'll never know what would have been left out if sleeping, reading, and reclined talking animations had been added to lounge chairs but there is always a trade off. It's been almost 5 years. You should know that by now.
I wonder why tradeoffs even exist with a BILLION dollar gaming company? In 2019?
*raises hand* Oh, I know, I know! Because they can get away with it!
In all seriousness, it's ridiculous how people are protective as if TS4 is developed by some small indie company with 2 people. It is not. But why bother with more resources when there is no competition at all and people will buy all DLC, no matter what.
That is what I am getting and it is like they are looking at the companies spreadsheet or sitting at the board meetings if they are I sure like to sit on one. However for me an excuse has an range of zero.
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Seems kind of cheap if they decide to add reading in lounge chairs to a University pack. Tanning and Sunbathing I could understand keeping that action to an EP because Base game doesn't have summer to tan or sunburn the sims. But the base game does have books so I feel it should be a free update to the base game. especially since so far it looks like the only action you can do with a lounge chair is sit lounge and drink.
Maybe it will be included in a pre-University patch.
Why do you and others who comment like you keep letting EAxis get away with this with comments like this? It's always maybe they will do it next patch or the patch after that. It took how long for us to get lounge chairs and they still half baked it. To be honest I'm sick of it and sick of holding my tongue about it. I didn't pay all this money to get half baked base game content that came COMPLETED, mind you, in previous iterations base game. It's not right. And then we get simmers like you who keep commenting like this is okay. Now wonder this game keeps getting all this problematic half baked content with no real fixes.
Btw don't care if I get banned for saying this. I'm sick of it all. And tired of watching what I say on here. They need to hear this. It's honest feedback from an unsatisfied customers who's been a customer for over a decade.
You're giving me, and others who comment like me, too much credit. There is a fixed budget for animations. You'll never know what would have been left out if sleeping, reading, and reclined talking animations had been added to lounge chairs but there is always a trade off. It's been almost 5 years. You should know that by now.
I wonder why tradeoffs even exist with a BILLION dollar gaming company? In 2019?
*raises hand* Oh, I know, I know! Because they can get away with it!
In all seriousness, it's ridiculous how people are protective as if TS4 is developed by some small indie company with 2 people. It is not. But why bother with more resources when there is no competition at all and people will buy all DLC, no matter what.
I did a rough estimate of how much money they would make from X amount of people buying the whole collection of Sims 4 games and the figures I came up with should be FAR more than enough for the Sims 4 and the content to not only meet standards, but exceed them.
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It’s by design simgurunick asked when someone tweeted him about it. They can drink drinks while relaxing but cannot read or talk to others. I wish they could but hopefully it will be added. At least they are in the game now.
Whoa, wait, they can't talk to other sims while lounging? Or use their phones or read a book? Really? Hmmmm. I know it's part of the patch, but now I'm wondering what on earth we've been waiting for if we're just getting a semi-reclined position where our sims cannot interact with anything but a drink.
Hmmmm. This is seriously disappointing.
You have to look at how Maxis Marketing works. You might get the actions for the lounge chair later in another pack for $40 when they introduce relaxing on bed, that way you will have to buy those actions all under the guise of hey, we included relax on bed for $40 and all those actions are now on lounge chairs, too! Just think kids, we heard you, just hand us another $40!
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The lounger was the least disappointment, but the announcement hype about the chance of Sim losing their bathings when swimming was the biggest joke. All you get is the info moodlet that your sim lost its bikini or what not, but nothing. Sim hasn‘t lost anything nor has he/she reacted in any kind of way. Just the info and that‘s it. Same as lounger hype - sitting and staring at the concrete - oh yeah right, it was free.
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It is incredible how much you can feel disappointed when you're expecting nothing. It is even more incredible to see just how little people are willing to accept from a multi-billion dollar video game developer. Yes, trade-offs will always exist in development, but come on. This is ridiculous. There are plenty of things that are wrong with this game, and a lot of it has to do with some of the people in this community just settling for less. Or at the very least, some people here settle for less until the feature they want gets added in a watered-down fashion.
Look on the bright side. We got 350 new swatches for base game doors.
Which I for one am very happy about, especially the additional swatches for gender neutral doors and the gender neutral bathroom door for Spa Day. I've been enjoying remodeling my venues with the new bathroom doors.
It's possible that they had some issues with some of the interactions and the lounge chairs, and rather than leave out lounge chairs altogether they went with what they had so they can continue to work on them, and patch in additional interactions later on. They're not sitting around in their cubicles wondering, "Hmmm, what can we leave out and make the community even more frustrated?"
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Maybe it will be included in a pre-University patch.
Whoa, wait, they can't talk to other sims while lounging? Or use their phones or read a book? Really? Hmmmm. I know it's part of the patch, but now I'm wondering what on earth we've been waiting for if we're just getting a semi-reclined position where our sims cannot interact with anything but a drink.
Hmmmm. This is seriously disappointing.
The sims don't even look relaxed in the lounge chair
Looked up the tweet because I was curious
I'm so baffled that they even need feedback about this. Of course people expect to be able to talk on lounge chairs! The whole game is promoted for its emotions and multi-tasking. Obviously we expected some more from a lounge chair than just some lying down animation.
Seriously?
Well this statement is definitely why we keep getting half baked content. 🤷
What about keeping open options for those who DO what to do that? I've read by the beach before in the past as well as taken a nap. We all do different things and play different ways and should have the OPEN options to do so.
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You sum it up perfectly. Players need to be more vocal if they are dissatisfied with content rather than just sitting and being patient, otherwise nothing will be done. I think Maxis should put out polls or surveys of some kind after every patch that adds content like this, so players can put in responses about each element added in regards to whether they are satisfied or not. That way things might be rectified sooner, and it could bring attention to these kinds of issues. List each feature, list a rating between 1 and 10 and then leave a space for the user to explain their rating.
Waiting this long for content that was done better practically 15 years ago isn't right. People have scolded me for bringing up past games so often, saying that The Sims 4 is more complex, but if it's more complex why aren't we seeing more complex interactions? Why can't Sims perform more multitasking interactions with a lounge chair, in this case?
You're giving me, and others who comment like me, too much credit. There is a fixed budget for animations. You'll never know what would have been left out if sleeping, reading, and reclined talking animations had been added to lounge chairs but there is always a trade off. It's been almost 5 years. You should know that by now.
I wonder why tradeoffs even exist with a BILLION dollar gaming company? In 2019?
*raises hand* Oh, I know, I know! Because they can get away with it!
In all seriousness, it's ridiculous how people are protective as if TS4 is developed by some small indie company with 2 people. It is not. But why bother with more resources when there is no competition at all and people will buy all DLC, no matter what.
Everybody got lounge chairs with the latest patch.
We were told the cost of producing lounge chairs that were compatible with multitasking was literally the hold up. We were told this was the reason we would never see them in any pack other than an expansion because the sheer cost of doing them the right way was too much for any other pack.
So instead of defending the poor work put on display with the lounger why not try being realistic? Why are we now settling for trade offs when literally we were told exactly what the holdup was, and now that all is said and done that wasn’t even remotely true.
What would have been cut if they would have done what they said they were doing all along? No idea, but I’m not going to pretend that their rational makes sense here - at all. They have discarded a core component of the game, does that kind of thing really not matter to you? Stand up for this game if you like it so much, complacency is just allowing them to take advantage of people who defend the straight up lies they tell.
ETA: like if they were gonna do so little they should have came out with this years ago. They brought backlash on themselves by misleading players here 110% for YEARS. Can’t even disagree there because they absolutely did that, and they did it because they know a handful of simmers will defend anything they do no matter what. No offense but that’s exactly what you have been doing this whole thread and it’s very annoying.
it's really kind of sad when even the constantly happy sims in 4 are disappointed in the lounge chairs. I played a little bit with them last night and they can 'relax' my sim was focused the entire time in the lounger, and they can nap. That was all I was able to get her to do.
I feel like we could multitask better on loungers in older iterations of the game than in sims 4, which multitasking was never a selling point for 2 or 3. My sim never even got a relaxed moodlet from the lounger. Didn't even pull out her phone either, just sat there like this staring at the concrete. I can't believe they waited almost 5 years to put out this lounger.
That is what I am getting and it is like they are looking at the companies spreadsheet or sitting at the board meetings if they are I sure like to sit on one. However for me an excuse has an range of zero.
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I did a rough estimate of how much money they would make from X amount of people buying the whole collection of Sims 4 games and the figures I came up with should be FAR more than enough for the Sims 4 and the content to not only meet standards, but exceed them.
You have to look at how Maxis Marketing works. You might get the actions for the lounge chair later in another pack for $40 when they introduce relaxing on bed, that way you will have to buy those actions all under the guise of hey, we included relax on bed for $40 and all those actions are now on lounge chairs, too! Just think kids, we heard you, just hand us another $40!
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It's possible that they had some issues with some of the interactions and the lounge chairs, and rather than leave out lounge chairs altogether they went with what they had so they can continue to work on them, and patch in additional interactions later on. They're not sitting around in their cubicles wondering, "Hmmm, what can we leave out and make the community even more frustrated?"
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