Make their last days as happy as possible (e.g. granting most wishes, letting them do things they enjoy, etc.)
@ZeeGee He is indeed! although not so hairy now that he is elder and the hair is so fair it is barely visible I was actually kind of hoping that I would get the rare one where the artist strips off instead of the subject. That's always good for a laugh
@Joanne65 I had read one of your posts in another thread where you said that single sims are most likely to be culled in your game. It's been many years since I played without Nraas SP but I remember how sad I would get when sims I had my eye on would vanish.
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How do you configure NRaas SP not to emigrate out sims?
I was playing a sim trying to get the LTW of heartbreaker. He had no problem becoming a boyfriend of a sim but once he broke up with them they disappeared from town. When that happened 1 would be subtracted from his LTW total. I suspect they got moved out of town because their relationship with my sim was so low.
@Joanne65 I had read one of your posts in another thread where you said that single sims are most likely to be culled in your game. It's been many years since I played without Nraas SP but I remember how sad I would get when sims I had my eye on would vanish.
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How do you configure NRaas SP not to emigrate out sims?
I was playing a sim trying to get the LTW of heartbreaker. He had no problem becoming a boyfriend of a sim but once he broke up with them they disappeared from town. When that happened 1 would be subtracted from his LTW total. I suspect they got moved out of town because their relationship with my sim was so low.
I wonder what happened there...
There is no autonomous emigration with NRaas SP under default settings because many players hate it so much, at least there isn't supposed to be, and it's actually very difficult to arrange for so it can't really be switched on by accident. There is a Run Out of Town scenario that can fire, but I believe that requires the sim having awful enemy type relationships with everyone they know in town and no friends at all. I don't think even that should happen by itself if emigration is shut down. Maybe one of the SP Personality modules allows for it, but that's reaching a bit.
Of course if you evict a sim from a household, actively being played or otherwise, if they cannot afford housing with the cash they are left with and they have no friends or relatives to move in with (or even if they do) ,then they become homeless and may just wander out of your game so it could look like emigration. But it really isn't exactly that because from the moment of the eviction they really no longer have a household to belong to.
@Joanne65 I had read one of your posts in another thread where you said that single sims are most likely to be culled in your game. It's been many years since I played without Nraas SP but I remember how sad I would get when sims I had my eye on would vanish.
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How do you configure NRaas SP not to emigrate out sims?
I was playing a sim trying to get the LTW of heartbreaker. He had no problem becoming a boyfriend of a sim but once he broke up with them they disappeared from town. When that happened 1 would be subtracted from his LTW total. I suspect they got moved out of town because their relationship with my sim was so low.
I wonder what happened there...
There is no autonomous emigration with NRaas SP under default settings because many players hate it so much, at least there isn't supposed to be, and it's actually very difficult to arrange for so it can't really be switched on by accident. There is a Run Out of Town scenario that can fire, but I believe that requires the sim having awful enemy type relationships with everyone they know in town and no friends at all. I don't think even that should happen by itself if emigration is shut down. Maybe one of the SP Personality modules allows for it, but that's reaching a bit.
Of course if you evict a sim from a household, actively being played or otherwise, if they cannot afford housing with the cash they are left with and they have no friends or relatives to move in with (or even if they do) ,then they become homeless and may just wander out of your game so it could look like emigration. But it really isn't exactly that because from the moment of the eviction they really no longer have a household to belong to.
They did become enemies with him and it was the very beginning of the game so they probably had not developed any other relationships yet but they did live in their own houses so not homeless.
By having emigration shut down you mean the emigration ration set to zero? I don't change the emigration options but I was wondering if I should change the "check active relationship" to true and use MC to change their relationship to acquaintance or friend instead of in the red.
I was being very cheaty in acquiring his girlfriends. I used the purple dragon to teleport someone he didn't know into his house and make them instant good friends. Then he would ask them to go steady and soon after break up with them. The next day or two they would disappear from town. I guess the game was trying to compensate for my underhanded process.
I like to let them do as they please! I love my elders as well. As soon as they've completed their LTW they can do whatever they want. Usually they'll help take care of kids and do chores on free will. Other times they'll jump on the trampoline or flirt with their daughter-in-law.
Edit: I didn't think of sending them to university! I'll have to try that! @Mikezumi I love that first grumpy picture lol
@cwaddell -
Emigration Ratio = 0 keeps debt-related emigration shut down. I don't think it keeps two other types shut down, Elder Emigration and Too Crowded which would both otherwise be hiding under General Options > Options:Sims (not Lots). But Elder is only relevant for elder sims themselves (in already full households) and Too Crowded is only relevant if the town has zero empty available houses (or I think maybe is over its SP population cap) AND there are households who don't know or have any relationships with other households in town. It would be pretty unusual for these to trigger without the player realizing they are playing under these conditions.
Run Out of Town is not actually documented, or at least I can't find where it is right now, so you may have something there with the Check Active Relationship option especially near the beginning of the game as you said if Too Crowded is not what is happening. But the more solid relationship can be with some other sim or an ad hoc relative, not the one having broken up with them, if you are trying to prevent this from happening. Strange...I've never seen this and I've certainly had inactive sims who were not liked by anyone in town. But maybe they just weren't disliked "enough" for the scenario to trigger.
For anyone else trying to follow along here and possibly getting lost, we're talking about not so often changed NRaas SP options related to emigration, which is not something that is asked for every day. The SP Population add-on module is required for most to all of these options to even appear.
We should probably take this conversation elsewhere if there is more, though I think we've covered most of it, as it's kind of off-topic for this thread.
We should probably take this conversation elsewhere if there is more, though I think we've covered most of it, as it's kind of off-topic for this thread.
Yes, you are right but I think this is all I need. Thanks for your help.
Make their last days as happy as possible (e.g. granting most wishes, letting them do things they enjoy, etc.)
@cwaddell I'm glad igazor saw your question since I would not have been able to answer it other than to say I know that emigration is off by default.
@5782341b77vl At least you have sims there to look after them
@Tempurrance Flirting with in-laws is never fun! I can't remember what SP settings I changed but that never happens in my games anymore. It's always good to know that some people treat their elders right
@Mikezumi I just love the way you play your elders, giving them a good ending to a full sim life! I'm still playing Granny Grey, who's found love on her old days. She's really getting old with health problems, and now she's away to Groenland on a quest, nobody knows what the future might hold for her...
Make their last days as happy as possible (e.g. granting most wishes, letting them do things they enjoy, etc.)
@jillbg Since my SS is an elder, it would just be wrong to mistreat them! Besides, I get really attached to them and want them to be happy since they have so little time.
Good for Granny Grey finding love! I hope her health problems don't mean her time is coming to an end
@Mikezumi I'm preparing something I hope will be if not OK, at least brings tears to your eyes! But she's got time left yet, I can't just kill her off before letting her have a little happiness too...
Make their last days as happy as possible (e.g. granting most wishes, letting them do things they enjoy, etc.)
@meerkattime Thank you Jordan has always had a very expressive face and John's not too shabby himself. He's the "twin brother" of Eddy Mullis from the University world and when I played Eddy recently he was also very expressive
Here's John, Jordan and Eddy just after I "made" John.
Make their last days as happy as possible (e.g. granting most wishes, letting them do things they enjoy, etc.)
My boys passed and are now safely back home When they have been home a couple of days (because I want to get started on a new grandchild for them), I might have to send them to Champs Les Sims since they never had a honeymoon
I'll be honest here, I've never actually played with elders. The closest thing I've ever done to playing with them is taking them into CAS and aging them down (out of boredom ). I was simply curious to see what they look like as YAs.
I haven't found anything very promising so far, except for one: Margarita Manzano. She's an elder at the start of the game, living in Isla Paradiso. Here she is as an elder:
Here she is in my game now. I kept her as YA, no tweaking done to her face. The only edits were changing her hair and adding a custom skin:
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Zumi and the Winchester Brothers
The Watcher's Caretaker - A Limited ISBI
https://youtu.be/X2eiCUQDNvQ
Zumi and the Winchester Brothers
The Watcher's Caretaker - A Limited ISBI
https://youtu.be/X2eiCUQDNvQ
Zumi and the Winchester Brothers
The Watcher's Caretaker - A Limited ISBI
How do you configure NRaas SP not to emigrate out sims?
I was playing a sim trying to get the LTW of heartbreaker. He had no problem becoming a boyfriend of a sim but once he broke up with them they disappeared from town. When that happened 1 would be subtracted from his LTW total. I suspect they got moved out of town because their relationship with my sim was so low.
It only had 3 employee that (took care?) of the other elders, but I figured since my Sims weren't going to be there long...
There is no autonomous emigration with NRaas SP under default settings because many players hate it so much, at least there isn't supposed to be, and it's actually very difficult to arrange for so it can't really be switched on by accident. There is a Run Out of Town scenario that can fire, but I believe that requires the sim having awful enemy type relationships with everyone they know in town and no friends at all. I don't think even that should happen by itself if emigration is shut down. Maybe one of the SP Personality modules allows for it, but that's reaching a bit.
Of course if you evict a sim from a household, actively being played or otherwise, if they cannot afford housing with the cash they are left with and they have no friends or relatives to move in with (or even if they do) ,then they become homeless and may just wander out of your game so it could look like emigration. But it really isn't exactly that because from the moment of the eviction they really no longer have a household to belong to.
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They did become enemies with him and it was the very beginning of the game so they probably had not developed any other relationships yet but they did live in their own houses so not homeless.
By having emigration shut down you mean the emigration ration set to zero? I don't change the emigration options but I was wondering if I should change the "check active relationship" to true and use MC to change their relationship to acquaintance or friend instead of in the red.
I was being very cheaty in acquiring his girlfriends. I used the purple dragon to teleport someone he didn't know into his house and make them instant good friends. Then he would ask them to go steady and soon after break up with them. The next day or two they would disappear from town. I guess the game was trying to compensate for my underhanded process.
Edit: I didn't think of sending them to university! I'll have to try that! @Mikezumi I love that first grumpy picture lol
Emigration Ratio = 0 keeps debt-related emigration shut down. I don't think it keeps two other types shut down, Elder Emigration and Too Crowded which would both otherwise be hiding under General Options > Options:Sims (not Lots). But Elder is only relevant for elder sims themselves (in already full households) and Too Crowded is only relevant if the town has zero empty available houses (or I think maybe is over its SP population cap) AND there are households who don't know or have any relationships with other households in town. It would be pretty unusual for these to trigger without the player realizing they are playing under these conditions.
Run Out of Town is not actually documented, or at least I can't find where it is right now, so you may have something there with the Check Active Relationship option especially near the beginning of the game as you said if Too Crowded is not what is happening. But the more solid relationship can be with some other sim or an ad hoc relative, not the one having broken up with them, if you are trying to prevent this from happening. Strange...I've never seen this and I've certainly had inactive sims who were not liked by anyone in town. But maybe they just weren't disliked "enough" for the scenario to trigger.
For anyone else trying to follow along here and possibly getting lost, we're talking about not so often changed NRaas SP options related to emigration, which is not something that is asked for every day. The SP Population add-on module is required for most to all of these options to even appear.
We should probably take this conversation elsewhere if there is more, though I think we've covered most of it, as it's kind of off-topic for this thread.
NRaas has moved!
Our new site is at http://nraas.net
ETA: Sorry for hijacking the thread.
@5782341b77vl At least you have sims there to look after them
@Tempurrance Flirting with in-laws is never fun! I can't remember what SP settings I changed but that never happens in my games anymore. It's always good to know that some people treat their elders right
Zumi and the Winchester Brothers
The Watcher's Caretaker - A Limited ISBI
Zumi and the Winchester Brothers
The Watcher's Caretaker - A Limited ISBI
Good for Granny Grey finding love! I hope her health problems don't mean her time is coming to an end
Zumi and the Winchester Brothers
The Watcher's Caretaker - A Limited ISBI
Zumi and the Winchester Brothers
The Watcher's Caretaker - A Limited ISBI
Zumi and the Winchester Brothers
The Watcher's Caretaker - A Limited ISBI
Here's John, Jordan and Eddy just after I "made" John.
Zumi and the Winchester Brothers
The Watcher's Caretaker - A Limited ISBI
Zumi and the Winchester Brothers
The Watcher's Caretaker - A Limited ISBI
I haven't found anything very promising so far, except for one: Margarita Manzano. She's an elder at the start of the game, living in Isla Paradiso. Here she is as an elder:
Here she is in my game now. I kept her as YA, no tweaking done to her face. The only edits were changing her hair and adding a custom skin:
TS4 Sims in TS3
*coughs*
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