In my opinion, laundry really doesn't have much to do with Eco Living. (and I would be seriously annoyed with a pack mostly dedicated to a household chore that many people hate doing)
In my opinion, this pack should be true Eco Friendly items: solar panels to lower our sims bills, technologies that promote sustainability, more ways to "live off the land", objects that have a modern and minimalistic design. If laundry has to be included, then fine, but it should really not be the main focus.
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But I came for laundry lol.
I may be a little hypocritical here because man, I would love for my sims to be able to sweep the floor
I don't get it either. I did it sometimes if one of my sims was a stay at home parent or a live in playable "maid" but otherwise it just annoyed me.
A lot of Simmers who are doing family play have a parent or grandparent who is home all day while the rest of the household is at work or school -- and for a lot of Simmers that's what their real lives look like, too. But there's not a lot to do in the game to simulate that kind of play on the realistic side of Simming. You can do a bit of sink and toilet and tub cleaning, now and then, but unless it's a mansion, that doesn't occupy much of a day. You can garden, but after a while you end up megarich from gardening, which might not be where you're trying to get with your Sims. You can do some cooking, but if you overstuff your fridge it just goes bad before it all gets eaten. So that leaves socializing, TV, games, etc.... and a lot more of it than a lot of Simmers are happy about. The work-play balance is off for Sims who aren't employed and aren't after becoming high-skilled painters or gardeners etc. Adding more work in for those Sims creates a bit more challenge in time management for people playing and simulating domestic life. And a *lot* more challenge if there are also children at home. It's not going to be every Simmer's cup of tea, but then, what is?
That was a very good explanation. I skipped sims 3 completely, so I have never played with laundry but I can see from your description why it would appeal to certain players. I think this pack won because it mentioned laundry so I think that will be the featured gameplay. But I really hope it includes something off the grind based.
That was a very good explanation. I skipped sims 3 completely, so I have never played with laundry but I can see from your description why it would appeal to certain players. I think this pack won because it mentioned laundry so I think that will be the featured gameplay. But I really hope it includes something off the grind based.
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I have a huge garden, including modded plants like peaches, green chilies, vanilla beans, olives, etc. But I only harvest what I actually need, because I don't like being rich. If my sims have the best of everything, I get bored and stop playing them.
So, many of my saves are very down-to-earth, rustic living, and surrounded by nature. The problem is, stay-at-home parents tend to have too much time on their hands. I want them to do more for their families, like laundry.
Now, not all my saves are that way. I have vampires, deviant stories and the like. But that is for something occasionally different. It's not my usual play style.
Before The Sims was named The Sims, the developers called it The Dollhouse. And even after 17 years, growing up and becoming an adult myself, it's still my dollhouse.
If it's in a stuff pack it means I will miss a lot less content that adds other gameplay to my game (because I am refusing to buy anything with laundry in it unless I can turn it off completely. my Sims already make big enough messes) but for the simmers out there who love laundry they can get it added back in. I see it as a good win-win scenario.
Same thing with their suggestion to add funerals in the danger pack, there are simply simmers out there who don't want to bring the somberness of a funeral or the monotony of chores in their game for various reasons and others who love it because it adds more realism. which makes stuff packs a nice spot to add these features that may annoy some people if there in an ep. It's the same reason I liked them giving vampires all there own gp, it makes it so no one has to add one thing they hate to get something they love (except some items but stuff is in everything so I think it is the exception.)
Anyways that's my thoughts on this pack. If there's laundry I won't be buying it but I am still in support of them doing the pack like this. (Which I'm sure ea doesn't care about since there's no $'s attached to my approval.)
I would like to see eco-friendly things such as alternative energy jobs revolving around such, aspirations, concerning it, living off the land situations...although all that sounds more like a game pack that stuff pack. So perhaps laundry is about as far as we can go with the stuff pack. I don't really know I was just very happy to be given a chance to have some say. :-)
I think you put it all in a very good way and I am certain that the devs are aware that the players are divided in the issue about laundry. It must be very challenging for them to please everybody. So far I think they have done an excellent job trying to please the majority.
This ECOpack though, it's not set in stone that it will even have laundry. We will be able to vote again in June.
• Feature Vote (June 24th – June 27th): Select the top gameplay feature(s) you want to have included in the pack.
Personally I feel the same way as you do about laundry, but hey! It's not set in stone yet!
I agree with this, however, I do believe that Laundry will be the main feature, only because it was actually stated as "area of focus". I personally feel bad for the developers in that the people that want laundry along with other household chores are extremely happy right now. Other simmers that voted because of the idea of focusing on more of an eco-friendly lifestyle have completely different ideas. It is possible to include the laundry along with maybe something like a juicer (using sims produce) in the same pack, but I am definitely seeing two very different focuses on this theme and most of the ideas on both sides conflict, so all we can do is see what happens with it.
Yes,so true, to the stuff I highlighted.
To me though, following how it's all put together is something we've never had a chance to do before so I think it is exciting even though it might end up being laundry. I also think that the devs have looked and filed all our suggestions so who knows what else we get from these suggestions. All the awesome ideas I wouldn't mind if they someday turned into a gamepack instead of a stuffpack so in that respect we'd come out ahead and the Laundry Lovers can have their stuff pack. Win, win as I see it.
The worms could be used for fishing, and it would make compost for the garden.
I do like that we get to vote on what will be in the pack but because so many people seem to want laundry I feel like that will get the most votes and other, more actual Eco items, will be left out. In which case they should not call it an Eco Living pack because to me, doing laundry is not eco friendly because many washing machines waste ALOT of water. Hopefully they will provide a long list of gameplay features to vote on and will maybe include the top 2-3 so more people are happy.
If the pack ends up not having laundry as the gameplay I probably won't be that interested in the pack, but that's fine since honestly laundry is definitely not the first thing that comes to mind with eco and I'm sure most people probably voted for it for other reasons.
I'm just not personally interested in things like solar panels or composting toilets or anything like that (in game) since all it'll likely do is lower the bills. Lowering bills doesn't really add to gameplay in any way to me and the bills are already pretty easy so I would probably avoid using those objects anyway since I wouldn't want my bills lowered.
Regardless of what ends up being the gameplay object I'm still interested to see how the pack turns out and interested to see what CAS and build/buy items are added.
What about people who aren't fussed about party stuff or laundry?
I too hope that ECO items will also be included and that it will not end up being just a domestic chores pack. Although a lot of simmers did vote because it specifically said the word laundry, I feel that there were also a lot of simmers that voted for the theme of Eco-Friendly and did not care about laundry. So if no Eco themed ideas are considered or used, I feel like this project will end up causing more division and distrust in the community.
I'm sure there will be plenty of other stuff packs available over these months for people who don't like whatever gameplay gets chosen for this one. It's not like this is the Last Add-on Ever.