I'm going to drop here a comment extracted for a Parent-Review website, were a parent ask that TS4 should remove more content.
*************************************************************************************** Bug says: November 7, 2018 at 11:15 pm
The company needs to delete the sexual content. This is another example of media telling girls that having enlarged breasts and butt is more attractive. Also, showing that if they put a few good things into the video game, like managing money, consumers should ignore the inappropriate material. There is no need for the sexual aspects to be included in this game. ***************************************************************************************
And another one:
*************************************************************************************** Is there a password protection option on the SIMS4 game? We only want our daughter (8 years) to play this game when we are about. She was beside herself when some of the characters inexplicably(!?) died (much to our horror – yes, it was our fault for not understanding the game!). I have had a scout round in the options menu but nothing obvious there. Thanks ***************************************************************************************
I think catering to girls is not the problem, catering to parents is. Source: geekdad.com, parents-should-know-about-the-sims-4
(You will have to search for it, I'm not able to post the link)
I'm going to drop here a comment extracted for a Parent-Review website, were a parent ask that TS4 should remove more content.
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Bug says:
November 7, 2018 at 11:15 pm
The company needs to delete the sexual content. This is another example of media telling girls that having enlarged breasts and butt is more attractive. Also, showing that if they put a few good things into the video game, like managing money, consumers should ignore the inappropriate material. There is no need for the sexual aspects to be included in this game.
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And another one:
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Is there a password protection option on the SIMS4 game? We only want our daughter (8 years) to play this game when we are about. She was beside herself when some of the characters inexplicably(!?) died (much to our horror – yes, it was our fault for not understanding the game!). I have had a scout round in the options menu but nothing obvious there. Thanks
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I think catering to girls is not the problem, catering to parents is.
Source: geekdad.com, parents-should-know-about-the-sims-4
(You will have to search for it, I'm not able to post the link)
Don’t those parents know there are games out there for their kids? Other games? Suitable games? And that Sims isn’t it?
I get it's your opinion, Cinebar, and TBH mostly the reason I come to these forums is to read your posts and others from people like you, ones that are well-written, logical, and not silly gushing praise.
Yes, EA has stereotyped teen girls and as a former teen girl (a loooooong time ago!) it makes me want to barf. Nevertheless, I stand by **my** opinion that strong intelligent women could make this game series better just as well as strong intelligent men could. Testosterone not required. But I think we all know that all EA sees is dollar signs. On the minor points, can we agree to respectfully disagree?
I agree so much with this sentiment - I wonder what women who "grow up" to be our doctors, first responders, etc., think of being peg-holed into mindless "girlie" rainbows & sunshine teens who can't handle any sort of consequences in a game, of all things...
Like someone else pointed out - there are men already working on this game. Are we to assume they think like teenage girls now and this is all they are capable of producing in what used to be a more challenging game overall?
You seem to forget that EA highly supports that in their Girls who Code program. One of the very few big companies that does support female working on games. https://www.ea.com/news/girls-who-code-2017
Yeah, but The Sims is not a game for young girls only. It‘s also for boys and adults, it‘s a life simulator!
I agree, Sims 4 does appear to be aimed at a young girly audience, which is strange because they knew when they made the game that they have many different kinds and ages of people playing previous sims games. Sims 4 is much too young and happy for me to enjoy it as a valid life simulation game. Maybe a life simulation for very young people but not for many of the people who played Sims 2 and 3. I have seen many older players, just like me! It just doesn't match up at all. It doesn't compare. In fact it should have been advertised as a completely new game specifically aimed at females between 10 and 15. It should definitely not have been advertised as a follow on from Sims 2 and 3. It's nothing like the same. They know it, the players know it. What I honestly can't understand is why they think their players would have been happy with it. And I honestly can't understand why they are sticking with Sims 4 for such a long time! What a major disappointment from what should have been a brilliant game.
I don't really think this is fair. Young girls can appreciate a realistic life simulation game, in fact, I think many of them would prefer it. After all, myself and a huge number of others in the community started playing Sims 2 and 3 as young girls. I started playing TS2 when I was eleven years old, in 5th grade. I don't know who TS4 is designed for, but I don't really like this attitude that it's a bad game because it's marketed to young/teen girls. It's a bad game because it's a shallow, poorly designed game lol.
My post wasn't really about the younger female generation - I'm not getting at them at all so perhaps I did sound a little unfair with my words. They have their place in the world just like older people like me, lol. I was younger once I like that you say that young girls can appreciate a realistic life simulation game and that they may indeed prefer it. I should have said this game must be aimed at 7 to 10 years olds - I probably would have been closer to the truth!
I'm not really saying it's a bad game 'because' it's aimed at young girls. What I'm really saying is it's a bad game because it doesn't cater for all generations - generations they absolutely KNOW play the game. They left older people out completely, for some reason, because they made the game pretty childish (in my humble opinion). And you're right, teens aren't childish at all - I certainly wasn't, although if I'm honest I don't think I was ever childish - I've always been a little on the serious side
And I also agree with you, it is a very shallow, poorly designed game. We are definitely on the same team.
"What I'm really saying is it's a bad game because it doesn't cater for all generations - generations they absolutely KNOW play the game."
In my opinion, generations of players don't have anything to do with that... I think, that someone from the company planned this game as simpler, (and cheaper) version of old solutions plus some new things, like moodlets and, of course, new graphics. They knew, that the title is popular, many "new and old Simmers" will buy it no matter what.
Guys, you are the elite of players. Most of EA customers playing "from time to time", making fast challenges, enjoying cute clothes and furniture, wanting laundry and other "home, realistic stuff". They don't need chemistry, complicated situations in game, but they will be happy, because they get a horse.
Of course, they will say, that the game is quite boring, but they do not know why... Maybe a car will save the world?
So, we are paying, and paying, and waiting and this is all, what the developers want.
Why they bother with complicated things like families connections, Sims reactions, relationship, when they just add some new animations and simple quest? It's easier and cheaper...
Origin ID: ukyojin
Unofficial Polish Forum - simtopia.pl
I'm going to drop here a comment extracted for a Parent-Review website, were a parent ask that TS4 should remove more content.
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Bug says:
November 7, 2018 at 11:15 pm
The company needs to delete the sexual content. This is another example of media telling girls that having enlarged breasts and butt is more attractive. Also, showing that if they put a few good things into the video game, like managing money, consumers should ignore the inappropriate material. There is no need for the sexual aspects to be included in this game.
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And another one:
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Is there a password protection option on the SIMS4 game? We only want our daughter (8 years) to play this game when we are about. She was beside herself when some of the characters inexplicably(!?) died (much to our horror – yes, it was our fault for not understanding the game!). I have had a scout round in the options menu but nothing obvious there. Thanks
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I think catering to girls is not the problem, catering to parents is.
Source: geekdad.com, parents-should-know-about-the-sims-4
(You will have to search for it, I'm not able to post the link)
Lol this would explaine why this game has become kids game. "There is no need for sexual aspects to in this game" in lifesimulation? So did her kids fall from sky if life simulation game dont need 'innaprobable material'
People are way too sensivity these days.
People want to farm gamepa0ck but we cant eat the meat. Some wish we could just hug the animals and dont allow other players to have a choice because of them.
So parends, just lock up you're kids in a room so they can't see anything 'bad'
One thing that I really don't like with this is how they do not seem to have scaled down on their marketing with their trailers and pictures showcasing the game. Those trailers and pictures are made by their marketing team and are showing stuff that are either not in the game, or made to look like it is a much more developed feature in the game. They have clearly edited all the sims and given them custom animations so the game looks better, and they are always showing it off so it looks better than it is.
Seriously, just look on the picture they have on origin, anyone seeing this would think that you could swim underwater like that.
Yeah they made custom animations for the trailer too. Just like Strangerville; they put more money into making the packs look good than they do developing the packs! I can only imagine how much of the dev budget they spent getting the voice actress from Moana to provide 30 seconds of audio for the trailer. Meanwhile the pack is barren and full of half-finished ideas and bad ideas they ripped from other packs because it’s easier and cheaper than making something new :eye roll:
But hey the backdrop is gorgeous!
Yes! This also bothered me. Why did they hire Moana, which undeniably is more expensive than a regular voice actor? Like, spend those dollars on gameplay and not a pretty trailer voice.
A good expansion sells better than an expansion whose trailer has a voice-over by Moana herself
I'm going to drop here a comment extracted for a Parent-Review website, were a parent ask that TS4 should remove more content.
***************************************************************************************
Bug says:
November 7, 2018 at 11:15 pm
The company needs to delete the sexual content. This is another example of media telling girls that having enlarged breasts and butt is more attractive. Also, showing that if they put a few good things into the video game, like managing money, consumers should ignore the inappropriate material. There is no need for the sexual aspects to be included in this game.
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And another one:
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Is there a password protection option on the SIMS4 game? We only want our daughter (8 years) to play this game when we are about. She was beside herself when some of the characters inexplicably(!?) died (much to our horror – yes, it was our fault for not understanding the game!). I have had a scout round in the options menu but nothing obvious there. Thanks
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I think catering to girls is not the problem, catering to parents is.
Source: geekdad.com, parents-should-know-about-the-sims-4
(You will have to search for it, I'm not able to post the link)
Lol this would explaine why this game has become kids game. "There is no need for sexual aspects to in this game" in lifesimulation? So did her kids fall from sky if life simulation game dont need 'innaprobable material'
People are way too sensivity these days.
People want to farm gamepa0ck but we cant eat the meat. Some wish we could just hug the animals and dont allow other players to have a choice because of them.
So parends, just lock up you're kids in a room so they can't see anything 'bad'
I btw started to play the sims when i was like 5y.
I remember the time when all my sims just get stuck in one bathroom and they all die one by one. I couldn't do anything and i cry because i missed those sims hahaa.
But didn't get any trauma. Lol
This game is totally childish in my humble opinion. It's full of rainbows everywhere you look. Whose life is actually like that? There's simply no content in Sims 4; there is nothing to do and no consequences to face. No challenges, no options whatsoever to make up any story the players' imaginations can stir up because the sims have their own agenda going on, ALL the time. No matter what a player wants to create, it's not possible because the sims are like robots, getting on with their own thing, oblivious of the player.
I find it very difficult to believe that someone, somewhere, has decided to keep such a game running for such a long time, knowing how much has been spoken about its lack of content; its lack of reality; its lack of player control .... I could go on for some time about this but I'm not going to. It's sufficient to say only that this game does not measure up, plain and simple. It's pretty, it runs well but in comparison to previous games, it's so lacking that life is too short to list what's missing or what has been glossed over.
I managed to get my old Sims 3 game running again on my older pc this afternoon and time passed so quickly I couldn't believe what time it was when I finally ended the game. The reason I lost track of time was because I was lost in all that content; there was so much to do and nothing like enough time to do it all in. So many things to do! I was totally absorbed. I had forgotten just how much I used to enjoy playing Sims 3. What a difference! It hits you in the face!
I really don't know who they aimed this game at. (I'm not sure who 'they' are) I feel they were either not informed about what players really want in a sims game or they seriously overlooked it, for some reason. Who knows? Whoever is making Sims 4 should definitely spend some a good amount of time playing the game in an effort to discover for themselves whether they become absorbed or not. The people making decisions about what to add into the game are adults, like many of their players, so they must surely know for themselves how impossible it is for a player to really enjoy this game as much as they should. Would anyone making the game enjoy making sand castles all day? Would they enjoy sailing around in circles? Would they enjoy watching a sim pick up and put down a book repeatedly? Would they enjoy watching their sims sitting at a computer every single spare moment? Do they really enjoy watching sims 'chat' constantly, with the player never really knowing exactly what they are chatting about? I tend to think not.
Maybe I'm being a bit harsh but seriously, does everyone who designs content for this game not have any idea how important colour schemes are, or how important it is to create a story line where your sims actually do what you ask? Do they not realise that when gameplay becomes tedious as it inevitably does after a time, that the player might then go on to building and decorating a home with 'colour schemes' in mind?
Now that I've managed to get my Sims 3 game back, I'm moving back to it again with the hope that sometime in the not too distant future, someone will say 'Hey, we need to up our game a bit and create what our players actually want in a Sims game.' At that point, if it ever happens, I will return to spend some of my money on a Sims game but for now, it's just a ....... massive disappointment ..... from so many perspectives.
"We only want our daughter (8 years) to play this game when we are about. She was beside herself when some of the characters inexplicably(!?) died (much to our horror – yes, it was our fault for not understanding the game!)"
Now that I've managed to get my Sims 3 game back, I'm moving back to it again with the hope that sometime in the not too distant future, someone will say 'Hey, we need to up our game a bit and create what our players actually want in a Sims game.' At that point, if it ever happens, I will return to spend some of my money on a Sims game but for now, it's just a ....... massive disappointment ..... from so many perspectives.
Sims 5 hopefully is a mixture of Sims 3‘s freedom of open world and color wheel and Sims 2‘s gameplay!
One thing that I really don't like with this is how they do not seem to have scaled down on their marketing with their trailers and pictures showcasing the game. Those trailers and pictures are made by their marketing team and are showing stuff that are either not in the game, or made to look like it is a much more developed feature in the game. They have clearly edited all the sims and given them custom animations so the game looks better, and they are always showing it off so it looks better than it is.
Seriously, just look on the picture they have on origin, anyone seeing this would think that you could swim underwater like that.
Yeah they made custom animations for the trailer too. Just like Strangerville; they put more money into making the packs look good than they do developing the packs! I can only imagine how much of the dev budget they spent getting the voice actress from Moana to provide 30 seconds of audio for the trailer. Meanwhile the pack is barren and full of half-finished ideas and bad ideas they ripped from other packs because it’s easier and cheaper than making something new :eye roll:
But hey the backdrop is gorgeous!
Yes! This also bothered me. Why did they hire Moana, which undeniably is more expensive than a regular voice actor? Like, spend those dollars on gameplay and not a pretty trailer voice.
A good expansion sells better than an expansion whose trailer has a voice-over by Moana herself
Thy did what ?Off topic but I saw pictures of the island restrooms featuring Moana.
I agree, Sims 4 does appear to be aimed at a young girly audience, which is strange because they knew when they made the game that they have many different kinds and ages of people playing previous sims games. Sims 4 is much too young and happy for me to enjoy it as a valid life simulation game. Maybe a life simulation for very young people but not for many of the people who played Sims 2 and 3. I have seen many older players, just like me! It just doesn't match up at all. It doesn't compare. In fact it should have been advertised as a completely new game specifically aimed at females between 10 and 15. It should definitely not have been advertised as a follow on from Sims 2 and 3. It's nothing like the same. They know it, the players know it. What I honestly can't understand is why they think their players would have been happy with it. And I honestly can't understand why they are sticking with Sims 4 for such a long time! What a major disappointment from what should have been a brilliant game.
I don't really think this is fair. Young girls can appreciate a realistic life simulation game, in fact, I think many of them would prefer it. After all, myself and a huge number of others in the community started playing Sims 2 and 3 as young girls. I started playing TS2 when I was eleven years old, in 5th grade. I don't know who TS4 is designed for, but I don't really like this attitude that it's a bad game because it's marketed to young/teen girls. It's a bad game because it's a shallow, poorly designed game lol.
My post wasn't really about the younger female generation - I'm not getting at them at all so perhaps I did sound a little unfair with my words. They have their place in the world just like older people like me, lol. I was younger once I like that you say that young girls can appreciate a realistic life simulation game and that they may indeed prefer it. I should have said this game must be aimed at 7 to 10 years olds - I probably would have been closer to the truth!
I'm not really saying it's a bad game 'because' it's aimed at young girls. What I'm really saying is it's a bad game because it doesn't cater for all generations - generations they absolutely KNOW play the game. They left older people out completely, for some reason, because they made the game pretty childish (in my humble opinion). And you're right, teens aren't childish at all - I certainly wasn't, although if I'm honest I don't think I was ever childish - I've always been a little on the serious side
And I also agree with you, it is a very shallow, poorly designed game. We are definitely on the same team.
"What I'm really saying is it's a bad game because it doesn't cater for all generations - generations they absolutely KNOW play the game."
In my opinion, generations of players don't have anything to do with that... I think, that someone from the company planned this game as simpler, (and cheaper) version of old solutions plus some new things, like moodlets and, of course, new graphics. They knew, that the title is popular, many "new and old Simmers" will buy it no matter what.
Guys, you are the elite of players. Most of EA customers playing "from time to time", making fast challenges, enjoying cute clothes and furniture, wanting laundry and other "home, realistic stuff". They don't need chemistry, complicated situations in game, but they will be happy, because they get a horse.
Of course, they will say, that the game is quite boring, but they do not know why... Maybe a car will save the world?
So, we are paying, and paying, and waiting and this is all, what the developers want.
Why they bother with complicated things like families connections, Sims reactions, relationship, when they just add some new animations and simple quest? It's easier and cheaper...
Had to laugh at horse comment, Aericia!
Spot on in your last sentence. You get it.
They would make so much more $$$$ long term if they developed the complicated stuff into one game and created the happy pony game as an offshoot.
I found a comment from user Honeywell over on Mod The Sims from July 2014 talking about The Sims 4.
Soap opera like gameplay... Shallow stage dressing... Concerns the game is even stable...
Issues we complain about nowadays were being complained about five years ago. Nothing has changed. We still have shallow gameplay, we still have rife set dressing as seen with recent expansions and we still have plenty of bugs, both old and new. At this point I believe no amount of complaining will change anything, we're way too far in.
I think that it's going to be at least 2 years before they even start working on TS5.. I think they said they wanted to have so many packs before they even started on a new game. Who knows though, maybe it's already in production.
I don't think it will change anything though. If you are unhappy with the game now I feel like you will continue to be disappointed. Just because you feel like something should be one way, doesn't mean that is the direction the devs want to go with it. At the end of the day, the devs are going to win.
I do think listening to the consumers is an extremely beneficial business tactic, however, think of all the many different opinions that are conflicting and coming to you as a dev. Who do you listen to? People that want it A or people who want it B? Usually what happens is they go down the middle to try to compromise for all the consumers, then it ends up feeling incomplete because neither side got what they truly wanted and it just becomes a mess of opinions again.
I'm not vouching for them; even I have complaints about the game. However if I was that unhappy with the game, I wouldn't continue to support it and purchase future games/DLC.
They would make so much more $$$$ long term if they developed the complicated stuff into one game and created the happy pony game as an offshoot.
You think like a player, my friend.
Think like a developer. "If you don't have to do something, don't do it".
Of course, the critics reviews might be worse, but till they do not have any competitors and people paying for their games, nothing will change, I'm afraid.
Origin ID: ukyojin
Unofficial Polish Forum - simtopia.pl
"We only want our daughter (8 years) to play this game when we are about. She was beside herself when some of the characters inexplicably(!?) died (much to our horror – yes, it was our fault for not understanding the game!)"
I know right...... T for TEEN yet they're shocked when something they don't want their 8 year old CHILD exposed to happens? Imagine what they'll do if that child figures out how to make her sims woohoo?
I think that it's going to be at least 2 years before they even start working on TS5.. I think they said they wanted to have so many packs before they even started on a new game. Who knows though, maybe it's already in production.
I don't think it will change anything though. If you are unhappy with the game now I feel like you will continue to be disappointed. Just because you feel like something should be one way, doesn't mean that is the direction the devs want to go with it. At the end of the day, the devs are going to win.
I do think listening to the consumers is an extremely beneficial business tactic, however, think of all the many different opinions that are conflicting and coming to you as a dev. Who do you listen to? People that want it A or people who want it B? Usually what happens is they go down the middle to try to compromise for all the consumers, then it ends up feeling incomplete because neither side got what they truly wanted and it just becomes a mess of opinions again.
I'm not vouching for them; even I have complaints about the game. However if I was that unhappy with the game, I wouldn't continue to support it and purchase future games/DLC.
I don't think anyone is asking for A or B. I don't think it's because anyone wants the game to go 'this way' or 'that way'. Sims 4 isn't a compromise of anything really. It's gone a completely different way from previous sims games, which is a shame because they had an awful lot of loyal followers who they have thrown by the wayside.
I think it's a pity that their most loyal players are unable to support the game further. That's not generally how I was taught to conduct a business, but you're right of course - the best thing to do when you're unhappy with something, is abandon it and move on.
They would make so much more $$$$ long term if they developed the complicated stuff into one game and created the happy pony game as an offshoot.
You think like a player, my friend.
Think like a developer. "If you don't have to do something, don't do it".
Of course, the critics reviews might be worse, but till they do not have any competitors and people paying for their games, nothing will change, I'm afraid.
Unfortunately, you are right.
I wish the developers had the freedom and leeway that we players want back in the game.
What a shame.
I thought the consumer was always right - but I guess when a company becomes too big and doesn't "need" us - it obviously shows.
Too bad - this will be their legacy - the killing of any intelligence left of what was a great series.
I think that it's going to be at least 2 years before they even start working on TS5.. I think they said they wanted to have so many packs before they even started on a new game. Who knows though, maybe it's already in production.
I don't think it will change anything though. If you are unhappy with the game now I feel like you will continue to be disappointed. Just because you feel like something should be one way, doesn't mean that is the direction the devs want to go with it. At the end of the day, the devs are going to win.
I do think listening to the consumers is an extremely beneficial business tactic, however, think of all the many different opinions that are conflicting and coming to you as a dev. Who do you listen to? People that want it A or people who want it B? Usually what happens is they go down the middle to try to compromise for all the consumers, then it ends up feeling incomplete because neither side got what they truly wanted and it just becomes a mess of opinions again.
I'm not vouching for them; even I have complaints about the game. However if I was that unhappy with the game, I wouldn't continue to support it and purchase future games/DLC.
TS5 is already in production, SimGuruGrant recently changed his leading position to “work on the podcasts“, which we to this date have only seen one.
He‘s definitely working on Sims 5, he just isn‘t allowed to admit it
Imagine what they'll do if that child figures out how to make her sims woohoo?
Call the exorcist, I'm afraid.
And this is funny too... OMG, no adult content, kissing like on scout camp, but when your male Sim is taken by aliens and be pregnant against his will it ok and funny. Do not mention vampire romantic skill, who make Sims flirting with vampire... Yes, it makes sense.
(And I like it! But could they stop talking "no adult content" when they want to make a life simulator. It's like GTA producers make game without guns and cars only for a ride).
Origin ID: ukyojin
Unofficial Polish Forum - simtopia.pl
I think that it's going to be at least 2 years before they even start working on TS5.. I think they said they wanted to have so many packs before they even started on a new game. Who knows though, maybe it's already in production.
I don't think it will change anything though. If you are unhappy with the game now I feel like you will continue to be disappointed. Just because you feel like something should be one way, doesn't mean that is the direction the devs want to go with it. At the end of the day, the devs are going to win.
I do think listening to the consumers is an extremely beneficial business tactic, however, think of all the many different opinions that are conflicting and coming to you as a dev. Who do you listen to? People that want it A or people who want it B? Usually what happens is they go down the middle to try to compromise for all the consumers, then it ends up feeling incomplete because neither side got what they truly wanted and it just becomes a mess of opinions again.
I'm not vouching for them; even I have complaints about the game. However if I was that unhappy with the game, I wouldn't continue to support it and purchase future games/DLC.
I think there is a simple formula - listen to what works and then build from that.
The original game got everybody hooked. They built upon that - added more. The third - they opened up the worlds and pulled back a bit on the depth of what Sims 2 had in gameplay - but, because, from what I understand, limitations to people's systems - they had to make it accessible to all and not many can afford high end systems that can run everything.
Take all of those - we are now coming into 2019/2020 - you would think they would have common sense not to take away everything that everybody has become used to playing with and reselling them half-baked and piecemeal.
It is one thing to say it is the consumer's faults because there are conflicting wants for the game - but there is a simple solution - go back to what worked.
The formula is already there. Just bring it up to date - make a base game with seasons, open world, etc. Then build from there - but a real base game.
Bugs and bugs that main issue with Sims 4. I am looking forward to day where there is fresh gaming engine for this series.
And we get new game engine whit same bugs and problems. Then we buy same things over again for many hundreds dollars and see how much they cut off features this time like before. This cycle just keep running if ea dont change things.
Thats why i'm not that looking forvard to next sims searie.
This is so true. If the (EA) past predicts the future, I'm not too optimistic about the state of Sims 5. If I had not played Sims since the beginning (and have such great memories of playing) I wouldn't be playing Sims 4 now. I guess EA is counting on that history to keep us fans buying the series, but that only works for so long before long term fans give up in despair at the loss of such a great (decade and a half of) gaming experience.
edit: and I'm saying "decade and a half" of "great" experience even though I've been playing sims since 2000.
Honestly, Sims 4 should have improved on Sims 3 and not take away features from the base game.
It should have had open world, but without lag (it‘s possible) and easy to use color wheel for customization! Instead they went the lazy route by giving us a repurposed, scrapped multiplayer Sims game with a 2D map last seen at The Sims 1.
While Sims 4 improved in areas like CAS, they completely dropped meaningful gameplay features such as Sims having meaningful traits that give you more than just a random moodlet or the open world and the ability to customize your own town like in Sims 2 and Sims 3. Also no color wheel/ Create A Style!
I'm going to drop here a comment extracted for a Parent-Review website, were a parent ask that TS4 should remove more content.
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Bug says:
November 7, 2018 at 11:15 pm
The company needs to delete the sexual content. This is another example of media telling girls that having enlarged breasts and butt is more attractive. Also, showing that if they put a few good things into the video game, like managing money, consumers should ignore the inappropriate material. There is no need for the sexual aspects to be included in this game.
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And another one:
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Is there a password protection option on the SIMS4 game? We only want our daughter (8 years) to play this game when we are about. She was beside herself when some of the characters inexplicably(!?) died (much to our horror – yes, it was our fault for not understanding the game!). I have had a scout round in the options menu but nothing obvious there. Thanks
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I think catering to girls is not the problem, catering to parents is.
Source: geekdad.com, parents-should-know-about-the-sims-4
(You will have to search for it, I'm not able to post the link)
Reading those "reviews" made me roll my eyes. Why are you buying a game for your kid and have no ieda what its about? Its like parents today have lost common sense and dont do any research on games then want to get angry that the content is mature for their children. Start looking at ratings and stop willy nilly buying your kids any game. Plus the sims 4 in my personal opinion isnt even that mature or a real teen rated game, nothing bad happens and all you see two blobs moving around under sheets. Instead asking to remove features from an already feature lacking game, buy your kid a game rated for their age. Just.. Ugh annoying lol
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Bug says:
November 7, 2018 at 11:15 pm
The company needs to delete the sexual content. This is another example of media telling girls that having enlarged breasts and butt is more attractive. Also, showing that if they put a few good things into the video game, like managing money, consumers should ignore the inappropriate material. There is no need for the sexual aspects to be included in this game.
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Is there a password protection option on the SIMS4 game? We only want our daughter (8 years) to play this game when we are about. She was beside herself when some of the characters inexplicably(!?) died (much to our horror – yes, it was our fault for not understanding the game!). I have had a scout round in the options menu but nothing obvious there. Thanks
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I think catering to girls is not the problem, catering to parents is.
Source: geekdad.com, parents-should-know-about-the-sims-4
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Yeah, but The Sims is not a game for young girls only. It‘s also for boys and adults, it‘s a life simulator!
"What I'm really saying is it's a bad game because it doesn't cater for all generations - generations they absolutely KNOW play the game."
In my opinion, generations of players don't have anything to do with that... I think, that someone from the company planned this game as simpler, (and cheaper) version of old solutions plus some new things, like moodlets and, of course, new graphics. They knew, that the title is popular, many "new and old Simmers" will buy it no matter what.
Guys, you are the elite of players. Most of EA customers playing "from time to time", making fast challenges, enjoying cute clothes and furniture, wanting laundry and other "home, realistic stuff". They don't need chemistry, complicated situations in game, but they will be happy, because they get a horse.
Of course, they will say, that the game is quite boring, but they do not know why... Maybe a car will save the world?
So, we are paying, and paying, and waiting and this is all, what the developers want.
Why they bother with complicated things like families connections, Sims reactions, relationship, when they just add some new animations and simple quest? It's easier and cheaper...
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Lol this would explaine why this game has become kids game. "There is no need for sexual aspects to in this game" in lifesimulation? So did her kids fall from sky if life simulation game dont need 'innaprobable material'
People are way too sensivity these days.
People want to farm gamepa0ck but we cant eat the meat. Some wish we could just hug the animals and dont allow other players to have a choice because of them.
So parends, just lock up you're kids in a room so they can't see anything 'bad'
Yes! This also bothered me. Why did they hire Moana, which undeniably is more expensive than a regular voice actor? Like, spend those dollars on gameplay and not a pretty trailer voice.
A good expansion sells better than an expansion whose trailer has a voice-over by Moana herself
I btw started to play the sims when i was like 5y.
I remember the time when all my sims just get stuck in one bathroom and they all die one by one. I couldn't do anything and i cry because i missed those sims hahaa.
But didn't get any trauma. Lol
I find it very difficult to believe that someone, somewhere, has decided to keep such a game running for such a long time, knowing how much has been spoken about its lack of content; its lack of reality; its lack of player control .... I could go on for some time about this but I'm not going to. It's sufficient to say only that this game does not measure up, plain and simple. It's pretty, it runs well but in comparison to previous games, it's so lacking that life is too short to list what's missing or what has been glossed over.
I managed to get my old Sims 3 game running again on my older pc this afternoon and time passed so quickly I couldn't believe what time it was when I finally ended the game. The reason I lost track of time was because I was lost in all that content; there was so much to do and nothing like enough time to do it all in. So many things to do! I was totally absorbed. I had forgotten just how much I used to enjoy playing Sims 3. What a difference! It hits you in the face!
I really don't know who they aimed this game at. (I'm not sure who 'they' are) I feel they were either not informed about what players really want in a sims game or they seriously overlooked it, for some reason. Who knows? Whoever is making Sims 4 should definitely spend some a good amount of time playing the game in an effort to discover for themselves whether they become absorbed or not. The people making decisions about what to add into the game are adults, like many of their players, so they must surely know for themselves how impossible it is for a player to really enjoy this game as much as they should. Would anyone making the game enjoy making sand castles all day? Would they enjoy sailing around in circles? Would they enjoy watching a sim pick up and put down a book repeatedly? Would they enjoy watching their sims sitting at a computer every single spare moment? Do they really enjoy watching sims 'chat' constantly, with the player never really knowing exactly what they are chatting about? I tend to think not.
Maybe I'm being a bit harsh but seriously, does everyone who designs content for this game not have any idea how important colour schemes are, or how important it is to create a story line where your sims actually do what you ask? Do they not realise that when gameplay becomes tedious as it inevitably does after a time, that the player might then go on to building and decorating a home with 'colour schemes' in mind?
Now that I've managed to get my Sims 3 game back, I'm moving back to it again with the hope that sometime in the not too distant future, someone will say 'Hey, we need to up our game a bit and create what our players actually want in a Sims game.' At that point, if it ever happens, I will return to spend some of my money on a Sims game but for now, it's just a ....... massive disappointment ..... from so many perspectives.
Pardon me... On my cover there is a big, yellow 12yo.
https://images.app.goo.gl/RNzp9eb9RexpcFB89
12yo... No comment.
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Sims 5 hopefully is a mixture of Sims 3‘s freedom of open world and color wheel and Sims 2‘s gameplay!
Thy did what ?Off topic but I saw pictures of the island restrooms featuring Moana.
Had to laugh at horse comment, Aericia!
Spot on in your last sentence. You get it.
They would make so much more $$$$ long term if they developed the complicated stuff into one game and created the happy pony game as an offshoot.
Soap opera like gameplay... Shallow stage dressing... Concerns the game is even stable...
Issues we complain about nowadays were being complained about five years ago. Nothing has changed. We still have shallow gameplay, we still have rife set dressing as seen with recent expansions and we still have plenty of bugs, both old and new. At this point I believe no amount of complaining will change anything, we're way too far in.
I don't think it will change anything though. If you are unhappy with the game now I feel like you will continue to be disappointed. Just because you feel like something should be one way, doesn't mean that is the direction the devs want to go with it. At the end of the day, the devs are going to win.
I do think listening to the consumers is an extremely beneficial business tactic, however, think of all the many different opinions that are conflicting and coming to you as a dev. Who do you listen to? People that want it A or people who want it B? Usually what happens is they go down the middle to try to compromise for all the consumers, then it ends up feeling incomplete because neither side got what they truly wanted and it just becomes a mess of opinions again.
I'm not vouching for them; even I have complaints about the game. However if I was that unhappy with the game, I wouldn't continue to support it and purchase future games/DLC.
You think like a player, my friend.
Think like a developer. "If you don't have to do something, don't do it".
Of course, the critics reviews might be worse, but till they do not have any competitors and people paying for their games, nothing will change, I'm afraid.
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I know right...... T for TEEN yet they're shocked when something they don't want their 8 year old CHILD exposed to happens? Imagine what they'll do if that child figures out how to make her sims woohoo?
I don't think anyone is asking for A or B. I don't think it's because anyone wants the game to go 'this way' or 'that way'. Sims 4 isn't a compromise of anything really. It's gone a completely different way from previous sims games, which is a shame because they had an awful lot of loyal followers who they have thrown by the wayside.
I think it's a pity that their most loyal players are unable to support the game further. That's not generally how I was taught to conduct a business, but you're right of course - the best thing to do when you're unhappy with something, is abandon it and move on.
Unfortunately, you are right.
I wish the developers had the freedom and leeway that we players want back in the game.
What a shame.
I thought the consumer was always right - but I guess when a company becomes too big and doesn't "need" us - it obviously shows.
Too bad - this will be their legacy - the killing of any intelligence left of what was a great series.
TS5 is already in production, SimGuruGrant recently changed his leading position to “work on the podcasts“, which we to this date have only seen one.
He‘s definitely working on Sims 5, he just isn‘t allowed to admit it
And this is funny too... OMG, no adult content, kissing like on scout camp, but when your male Sim is taken by aliens and be pregnant against his will it ok and funny.
(And I like it! But could they stop talking "no adult content" when they want to make a life simulator. It's like GTA producers make game without guns and cars only for a ride).
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I think there is a simple formula - listen to what works and then build from that.
The original game got everybody hooked. They built upon that - added more. The third - they opened up the worlds and pulled back a bit on the depth of what Sims 2 had in gameplay - but, because, from what I understand, limitations to people's systems - they had to make it accessible to all and not many can afford high end systems that can run everything.
Take all of those - we are now coming into 2019/2020 - you would think they would have common sense not to take away everything that everybody has become used to playing with and reselling them half-baked and piecemeal.
It is one thing to say it is the consumer's faults because there are conflicting wants for the game - but there is a simple solution - go back to what worked.
The formula is already there. Just bring it up to date - make a base game with seasons, open world, etc. Then build from there - but a real base game.
This is so true. If the (EA) past predicts the future, I'm not too optimistic about the state of Sims 5. If I had not played Sims since the beginning (and have such great memories of playing) I wouldn't be playing Sims 4 now. I guess EA is counting on that history to keep us fans buying the series, but that only works for so long before long term fans give up in despair at the loss of such a great (decade and a half of) gaming experience.
edit: and I'm saying "decade and a half" of "great" experience even though I've been playing sims since 2000.
It should have had open world, but without lag (it‘s possible) and easy to use color wheel for customization! Instead they went the lazy route by giving us a repurposed, scrapped multiplayer Sims game with a 2D map last seen at The Sims 1.
While Sims 4 improved in areas like CAS, they completely dropped meaningful gameplay features such as Sims having meaningful traits that give you more than just a random moodlet or the open world and the ability to customize your own town like in Sims 2 and Sims 3. Also no color wheel/ Create A Style!
Reading those "reviews" made me roll my eyes. Why are you buying a game for your kid and have no ieda what its about? Its like parents today have lost common sense and dont do any research on games then want to get angry that the content is mature for their children. Start looking at ratings and stop willy nilly buying your kids any game. Plus the sims 4 in my personal opinion isnt even that mature or a real teen rated game, nothing bad happens and all you see two blobs moving around under sheets. Instead asking to remove features from an already feature lacking game, buy your kid a game rated for their age. Just.. Ugh annoying lol