@drake_mccarty And some people found live mode in sims 3 very dull.I mainly dabbled in CAS in sims 3 and played the households virtually none. Just because sims 3 had tools to be more creative in build mode and in CAS doesnt mean it had the best SIMS. The sims were bad imo. I commented about Sims 4 having the best sims characters , better than Sims 3 on the sims subreddit, better than before and got plenty of upvotes on that comment and so did the other user who said they find Sims 4 superior,which I was actually responding to, so im just saying, its not everybody who thinks sims 4 is worst in that area, by any stretch. Play whichever game you like. But for me Sims 4 has the strongest live mode so far.
I agree 100%. With multitasking and just how much more emotive the sims are in the Sims 4 with their facial expressions makes live mode far more interesting to me than in any previous iteration of the sims games. Live mode has always been my main focus in every sims game that I have played and I'm personally finding the sims 4 to be most enjoyable.
My only real complaint is the lack of bug fixing. My sims have been randomly teleporting round their homes for far to long now.
There are some things that i really appreciate about The sims 4 over any other version of this game. When I play, i come to realise certain aspects and then I always forget what they were.
Some I can remember:
- Multitasking!
- Easier, faster and smoother routing for sims/pets
- When sims automatically keep talking after clicking just 1 social interaction
- Freelance careers. Actually more the option where u can set ANY type of career description for your sim.
- Travel through worlds
- Electricity/water cuts adds more realism
- Fast loading screens. Even with over 1GB CC
- Different wall heights, roof friezes and glass roofs
Different weather in different worlds.
Clubs
Holidays
Active careers
Not having to throw away the newspaper
Rotational play
Graphics
Multitasking
Restaurants that aren’t rabbit holes
Less jealousy
There is actually a lot of Sims 4 features that I love and going back to Sims 3 was just kinda weird.
-UI is better
-The Sims look gorgeous, most realistic Sims yet and I actually love just admiring my creations.
-Venues actually feel busy and used, clubs are full of people which is awesome unlike Sims 3 where you pulled teeth to get more than 3 sims
-The build mode options are amazing, never could I build what I have built in Sims 4 in other Sims games, especially the friezes, roofs, and other architectural details
-Story progression
-Multi-tasking
-I kinda like the emotions as well
-Gallery is pretty cool and easy compared to old way of sharing lots
-San Myshuno is such a unique world
Not exactly game itself but the mods are really cool I love them.
Roofs have never been easier. I love the camera, and the flexibility in choosing clothes and playing around with sims' gender/pregnancy mechanics. It's a lean game in ways, but it performs so much better than TS3!
I’ll always love the sims 3, but more for nostalgia. I tried playing a while back and was struck by the awkwardness of the sims. No multi tasking means lots of awkward silences while sims do things like eat or paint. There was never any sims at community lots and it was a silent ghost world. Sims move around easier and smoother in sims 4, genetics are amazing and oh my lord the clothing in sims 3 was something else. Truly horrendous options. Emotions make the game more immersive, I find that when I switch to a certain sim in the household more often than not I find them making a funny face or getting up to some kind of shenanigans. In sims 3 they always look murderous and are just less life like, in my opinion. Sims 4 is missing a lot of features but what they have added is so much better than previous games, like toddlers, pets, weather etc. (toddlers are so boring in sims 3 wow) Sims 4 really captures the obsurdity and silliness of the game, for me.
That's my main thing. The sims. The characters. sims in 3 often did look angry and ready to kill someone when standing still lol. I just think sims 4 has the most lifelike, believable sims we've had so far
"Let Our Hearts And Hands Be Streched Out In Compassion Toward Others."
The Sims has a few things that I find better than previous Sims games,
Toddlers
Buy mode has some of the best furniture I have seen. I like almost all of it!
CAS
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@drake_mccarty I love live mode and I agree with @Sharonia . You might not enjoy this game. We all have our reasons, but live mode is awesome for those of us who enjoy it.
Good for you. I think live mode is very repetitive, very dull, and VERY predictable. If you don’t mind me asking; what reasons make you love live mode or feel it’s awesome?
Regardless of anything live mode is without a doubt the weakest part of the game. For most of it’s development it was designed for multiplayer over the internet not single player at all. It was slapped together into what we have super quickly and poorly. Hence why so many people complain about it.
@drake_mccarty And some people found live mode in sims 3 very dull.I mainly dabbled in CAS in sims 3 and played the households virtually none. Just because sims 3 had tools to be more creative in build mode and in CAS doesnt mean it had the best SIMS. The sims were bad imo. I commented about Sims 4 having the best sims characters , better than Sims 3 on the sims subreddit, better than before and got plenty of upvotes on that comment and so did the other user who said they find Sims 4 superior,which I was actually responding to, so im just saying, its not everybody who thinks sims 4 is worst in that area, by any stretch. Play whichever game you like. But for me Sims 4 has the strongest live mode so far.
So you prefer more animation? That’s the only real noticeable difference between the two. In terms of simulation Sims 4 is terrible. Traits mean nothing, your Sims don’t have personalities, AI is similarly just as bad. But hey, if it has good looking characters that’s all that matters right? Live mode in Sims 4 is sooooooo watered down. Not even just compared to Sims 3, even Sims 2 had a more engaging live mode with more enjoyable characters albeit graphically it wasn’t designed to resemble a cartoon like this game so I guess that’s why you found it dull. Saying Sims 4 is the best is like saying Boone's farm is top shelf wine. Experience with better things says otherwise, but the young ones will take what they can get.
Toddlers, clubs and multitasking are the only features I would say Sims 4 excelled at over past games. Sure CAS has some nice improvements over past games but it also has limitations like set colors on hair, clothing and no body hair so in some ways it has gone backwards.
Sims 4 went from "You Rule" to "One of the stories we want you to tell"
Im not young or new to the sims. I can afford to buy Sims 3 and all the DLC. But I never would because I dont like that game. It seems to me, that you cant seem to process the fact that better or worse is a matter of opinion. I dont like live mode in Sims 3. The sims are wooden , ugly and lack any personality that might otherwise make them endearing. Say what you wish, I prefer Sims 4. Ive been in this sims game stuff since the Sims 1, all of the fake condescension in the world doesnt make you any more of an expert than I am @drake_mccarty
Saying that your opinion is fact is like...well, not a fact
As far as using cartoon as an insult. I find that funny. I see many many people who like the cartoony look. Sims 3's only strong points were create a style and open world. The sims were very dull and that is where I stand on the issue
"Let Our Hearts And Hands Be Streched Out In Compassion Toward Others."
Toddlers, clubs and multitasking are the only features I would say Sims 4 excelled at over past games. Sure CAS has some nice improvements over past games but it also has limitations like set colors on hair, clothing and no body hair so in some ways it has gone backwards.
And they pulled loading screens back into the mix especially in this day and time, loading screens today is yesteryear technology.
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The look, the Vampires, the Aliens... making a home is so much easier (even if I still suck at it), CAS is fun for me (rather than tedious and awful), the curly hairs are gorgeous, the gender filter in CAS is amazing, the community it has in CC and mods is HUGE, it runs on basic computers and it seems like a more entry level player, than say, Sims 3. Sims 3 comes across as a harder start, and is harder to learn to play, though many adore it. I personally find it too hard to keep up with a household when the Open World means switching between Sims on opposite ends of town.
Different strokes for different folks Sims 4 may run on basic computers but it is not w/o cost as most of the features are not innovative for me and my system I am running on is not basic and like meaty features to chew on Sims 4 is nothing but an snack for my system it challenges nothing as there is nothing to be challenged. The features are basic at an tablet/Ipad level. However, again different strokes for different folks and my system knows what it likes and dislike.
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Im not young or new to the sims. I can afford to buy Sims 3 and all the DLC. But I never would because I dont like that game. It seems to me, that you cant seem to process the fact that better or worse is a matter of opinion. I dont like live mode in Sims 3. The sims are wooden , ugly and lack any personality that might otherwise make them endearing. Say what you wish, I prefer Sims 4. Ive been in this sims game stuff since the Sims 1, all of the fake condescension in the world doesnt make you any more of an expert than I am @drake_mccarty
Saying that your opinion is fact is like...well, not a fact
As far as using cartoon as an insult. I find that funny. I see many many people who like the cartoony look. Sims 3's only strong points were create a style and open world. The sims were very dull and that is where I stand on the issue
Better or worse is a matter of opinion, how something functions is not. I know how live mode plays in Sims 1-3, and I also know how it plays in Sims 4. Yes Sims 4 sims are more animated, they have more exaggerated animations, and have a lot more idle animations than Sims 3. So yes in that regard Sims 3 sims are duller. I understand you there, but that’s a superficial assessment of the simulation running bts which is way more important than animations or graphics in a game like The Sims. I love Sims 3, even with it’s stiff animation and sometimes robotic Sims, because the simulation is excellent. Sure that last part is my opinion, but it’s coming off the irrefutable fact that Sims 4 has poorer simulation running behind the scenes. It always has and it always will. They slapped the AI together from an online game that was nothing like a traditional Sims game.
But hey, you like it and that’s all you need to say. Arguing with people who are just trying to get a decent 4th entry of a popular simulation game doesn’t do anything when we are clearly talking about two different things. You prefer Sims 4 because of the Sims, which I have described what sets them apart, and literally i’d be on board too if the simulation was on par with what a 4th gen Sims game should have.
I loved The Sims when it first came out and all the sequels since. Each one has brought something new for me to love and TS4 is no exception. I was a big TS2 fan back in it's day and TS4 has brought some of that magic back. Of course TS4 CAS is a lot of fun, but aside from that I really love the graphics/art style. It's just so pretty and runs so well on my PC, I couldn't go back now. Although I would like it to be developed further, I also really like the emotion system and how animated my sims are. I also love the multi-tasking, being able to travel/move freely between worlds, the different career type options, and the gallery. There are some bugs that need fixing, but nothing game breaking for me that requires mods. The vampires are our best yet and build mode, toddlers, pets, and the clubs, holidays and fame/reputation systems are all really well done and so versatile and perfect for storytelling.
> @baranouta said: > When I tried it a while back, I couldn't get into TS4. I think I found myself trying to play the same way I did in TS3, but of course that didn't work and so I just became aware of the things from TS3 I'm used to that it lacked. I know I had to adjust my play style when I made the switch from TS2 to TS3 as well, so I started to wonder in hindsight if perhaps I simply need to play to TS4's strengths more in order to fully enjoy it. > > What really sets TS4 apart to you? What kind of stories is TS4 best at?
Different people, different priorities, I actually miss the newspaper. It was some kind of realism when one of my sims was already retired, everyone went to work, and he just sat in a chair reading the newspaper.
And when you had a dog who brought the newspaper to your bedside in the morning.
Plus all the positive comments mentioned, I like the fact that you can choose your immediate neighbours when you move your first Sim into a lot. I get to move in all my favourite saved Sims in and they get their houses free of charge. It's a very useful cheat that you don't even need the cheat panel for.
I also like the fact that I can create a very reasonable UK cul-de-sac (in Willow Creek) with my UK build houses, Tudor World in Newcrest and screenshots of countryside that look good as a laptop background. The screenshots look great when used as slideshow backgrounds changing every day.
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I agree 100%. With multitasking and just how much more emotive the sims are in the Sims 4 with their facial expressions makes live mode far more interesting to me than in any previous iteration of the sims games. Live mode has always been my main focus in every sims game that I have played and I'm personally finding the sims 4 to be most enjoyable.
My only real complaint is the lack of bug fixing. My sims have been randomly teleporting round their homes for far to long now.
Some I can remember:
- Multitasking!
- Easier, faster and smoother routing for sims/pets
- When sims automatically keep talking after clicking just 1 social interaction
- Freelance careers. Actually more the option where u can set ANY type of career description for your sim.
- Travel through worlds
- Electricity/water cuts adds more realism
- Fast loading screens. Even with over 1GB CC
- Different wall heights, roof friezes and glass roofs
I wish we still had the lol button
Different weather in different worlds.
Clubs
Holidays
Active careers
Not having to throw away the newspaper
Rotational play
Graphics
Multitasking
Restaurants that aren’t rabbit holes
Less jealousy
-UI is better
-The Sims look gorgeous, most realistic Sims yet and I actually love just admiring my creations.
-Venues actually feel busy and used, clubs are full of people which is awesome unlike Sims 3 where you pulled teeth to get more than 3 sims
-The build mode options are amazing, never could I build what I have built in Sims 4 in other Sims games, especially the friezes, roofs, and other architectural details
-Story progression
-Multi-tasking
-I kinda like the emotions as well
-Gallery is pretty cool and easy compared to old way of sharing lots
-San Myshuno is such a unique world
Not exactly game itself but the mods are really cool I love them.
Toddlers
Buy mode has some of the best furniture I have seen. I like almost all of it!
CAS
So you prefer more animation? That’s the only real noticeable difference between the two. In terms of simulation Sims 4 is terrible. Traits mean nothing, your Sims don’t have personalities, AI is similarly just as bad. But hey, if it has good looking characters that’s all that matters right? Live mode in Sims 4 is sooooooo watered down. Not even just compared to Sims 3, even Sims 2 had a more engaging live mode with more enjoyable characters albeit graphically it wasn’t designed to resemble a cartoon like this game so I guess that’s why you found it dull. Saying Sims 4 is the best is like saying Boone's farm is top shelf wine. Experience with better things says otherwise, but the young ones will take what they can get.
Saying that your opinion is fact is like...well, not a fact
As far as using cartoon as an insult. I find that funny. I see many many people who like the cartoony look. Sims 3's only strong points were create a style and open world. The sims were very dull and that is where I stand on the issue
And they pulled loading screens back into the mix especially in this day and time, loading screens today is yesteryear technology.
Better or worse is a matter of opinion, how something functions is not. I know how live mode plays in Sims 1-3, and I also know how it plays in Sims 4. Yes Sims 4 sims are more animated, they have more exaggerated animations, and have a lot more idle animations than Sims 3. So yes in that regard Sims 3 sims are duller. I understand you there, but that’s a superficial assessment of the simulation running bts which is way more important than animations or graphics in a game like The Sims. I love Sims 3, even with it’s stiff animation and sometimes robotic Sims, because the simulation is excellent. Sure that last part is my opinion, but it’s coming off the irrefutable fact that Sims 4 has poorer simulation running behind the scenes. It always has and it always will. They slapped the AI together from an online game that was nothing like a traditional Sims game.
But hey, you like it and that’s all you need to say. Arguing with people who are just trying to get a decent 4th entry of a popular simulation game doesn’t do anything when we are clearly talking about two different things. You prefer Sims 4 because of the Sims, which I have described what sets them apart, and literally i’d be on board too if the simulation was on par with what a 4th gen Sims game should have.
> When I tried it a while back, I couldn't get into TS4. I think I found myself trying to play the same way I did in TS3, but of course that didn't work and so I just became aware of the things from TS3 I'm used to that it lacked. I know I had to adjust my play style when I made the switch from TS2 to TS3 as well, so I started to wonder in hindsight if perhaps I simply need to play to TS4's strengths more in order to fully enjoy it.
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> What really sets TS4 apart to you? What kind of stories is TS4 best at?
My sim is emotional
Different people, different priorities, I actually miss the newspaper. It was some kind of realism when one of my sims was already retired, everyone went to work, and he just sat in a chair reading the newspaper.
And when you had a dog who brought the newspaper to your bedside in the morning.
I also like wandering the hills.
I also like the fact that I can create a very reasonable UK cul-de-sac (in Willow Creek) with my UK build houses, Tudor World in Newcrest and screenshots of countryside that look good as a laptop background. The screenshots look great when used as slideshow backgrounds changing every day.