Okay, Now I'm Mad

GalacticGal · February 2019

So, the family has three toddlers and an infant. The family goes off to a concert, and I get a notice that the wee ones have been sent to Daycare. The family returns, my Global Superstar is on his way upstairs to change the dirty diaper of his infant nephew and that fast, before he's even made it up the stairs, I get a notice that 'due to neglect _____ is being whisked away to safety. You might want to get a gold fish before you consider having another child.' Or words to that effect.

This angers me. The Nannies do precious little and oftentimes, the children don't get adequate care when sent to Daycare. Please, EA, fix this hot mess. Had I not cheated all three toddlers to full needs and then disabled their decay, I'm certain they would have been taken away, too. This is my celebrity's sister's family.

Just so you know I am exiting WITHOUT saving. But, I find this totally unacceptable.

scrutyni · February 2019

That's ridiculous. Definitely, the toddlers/infants' needs should be met at a higher threshold at daycare (or by the freaking nanny who takes your money goodness).

GalacticGal · February 2019

scrutyni wrote: »

That's ridiculous. Definitely, the toddlers/infants' needs should be met at a higher threshold at daycare (or by the freaking nanny who takes your money goodness).

Thank you. I thought so. Generally, I've had the father tip the Nanny one hundred smackaroos up front, to make sure his offspring are taken care of. Face/palm. There is no way an infant should come home from daycare hungry, or in a dirty diaper to the point they need to be taken away. It wasn't the parents' fault. Unless you fault them for choosing the wrong daycare … Oi!

ChuChuExpress · February 2019

Great, overzealous invisible social workers. I'm gonna flag Wendy Furystrykar's motives to never decay. No one's taking her away on my watch!

GalacticGal · February 2019

Advarius9001 wrote: »

Great, overzealous invisible social workers. I'm gonna flag Wendy Furystrykar's motives to never decay. No one's taking her away on my watch!

Yes, but since the infants are 'objects' what are we to do to protect them?

ChuChuExpress · February 2019

GalacticGal wrote: »

Advarius9001 wrote: »

Great, overzealous invisible social workers. I'm gonna flag Wendy Furystrykar's motives to never decay. No one's taking her away on my watch!

Yes, but since the infants are 'objects' what are we to do to protect them?

Drat, forgot about the invisible aspect of the invisible social worker. I mean, if it's a visible social worker, then my suggestion would have been to lock all doors and only allow household members into the room with the baby. But since the social worker is invisible, you'd better hope to the llama god you have a sim that can teleport with a high level wellness skill.

friendlysimmers · February 2019

a much easier solution is just skip the baby and toddler stage and age them up to child

Simpatsyann · February 2019

friendlysimmers wrote: »

a much easier solution is just skip the baby and toddler stage and age them up to child

Yes, but that eliminates the whole "playing them" part of it, which, regardless of your opinion on the lifestage, she should be able to do if she wishes.

ChelleJo · February 2019

I'm not a sims player that exits without saving without a good, solid reason. I'm very much a "play the hand you are dealt", but in that situation, I would exit without saving, too. That is ridiculous.

I have only ever had one child sim taken from me, in 19 years. And that was cause I clicked a button, with cheats enabled, and my infant was whisked away (that was sims 4 and a valid example of, curiosity killed the cat).

I don't feel you should have to skip entire lifespans cause the game doesn't properly take care of your sim kids. A lot of people find the children lifespans (infant, toddler, child, and teen) fun and vital to the game. I know I do. Object babies, or no, I think being told to "skip them" is insane. No, EA needs to fix the issue at hand, so us simmers can play the game as we, each, intend to.

Hermitgirl · February 2019

I wonder if there is a gameplay issue or bug report about this sort of thing. It seems like children should come home in pretty good shape from getting cared for away from the home absolutely. Maybe not totally green but in good shape.... because you as the player have no option to make a caregiver/facility do more in that situations. As opposed to encouraging better work from a nanny or firing them if they slack off in your home....

Simpkin · February 2019

I learned this from others and got the UI cheat mod just in case when I had 3 toddlers in the house. I saw the game not taking care of their needs. Didn't start risking it
I don't consider it cheating cause... um, the game fails at it itself.

ListentoToppDogg · February 2019

Daycare is literally trash. My toddlers' needs are never met and its ridiculous. I usually just call a nanny to hang around for a few hours whenever I have a family leave the house.

FurAndYarn · February 2019

> @ChelleJo said:
> I'm not a sims player that exits without saving without a good, solid reason. I'm very much a "play the hand you are dealt", but in that situation, I would exit without saving, too. That is ridiculous.

Yep, a situation like this (baby taken away) happened to me too and it was the only time I did an exit without saving. It would have been a different story if I had actually neglected the baby, but it was left with daycare and came back in horrible shape. At least if daycare is not going to take care of the kids then we should be able to find a different daycare.

MissyScabtree · February 2019

Oh no! I'm so sorry about this!

I had my sim attend a concert (the rabbithole one iirc) and she came home to find her cat and dog needs in the red and then they were taken away. I was incredibly sad, I did the same as you and logged off. In other saves when the sim is gone the pets stay fine or happy moods, but not ever had to be taken away. I'm going with the idea that this is a bug, and one I'd like to see fixed sometime soon

rosemow · February 2019

Hello
You may like to post feedback on this AHQ EA thread
https://answers.ea.com/t5/Bug-Reports/OPEN-Toddler-not-being-taken-care-of-at-daycare-low-needs/m-p/6582081#M56946

luxsylvan · February 2019

Oh, that's terrible. 😢 Unfortunately this isn't the first time I have seen a thread like this. I've had my toddlers and babies get really sad or angry and critically low needs while at daycare, but no warnings yet. My nanny has been okay so far, but I use it much less often.

I've begun saving before I know the kids will be "taken care of" at daycare just in case, but you're right. It is unacceptable.

elanorbreton · February 2019

I don't trust daycare and always forget we have a nanny option, so I always have someone stay at home until they are child age.

How good is the butler? Are they allowed to care for youngsters?

But you are right anyway, this should never have happened and it is very annoying to have to quit without saving and lose any progress since the last save.

Nindigo · February 2019

I have always felt that The Sims 4 game is too quick to point out child neglect and threaten players. But other than that, I have also noticed that leaving a small child at home with a nanny does not seem to fill any of its needs.

It's so very frustrating when the game itself prevents us from playing as it requires us to do. And we are the ones punished for it. I'm grr'ing with you.

loubyloulou · February 2019

GalacticGal wrote: »

Advarius9001 wrote: »

Great, overzealous invisible social workers. I'm gonna flag Wendy Furystrykar's motives to never decay. No one's taking her away on my watch!

Yes, but since the infants are 'objects' what are we to do to protect them?

I think you use MCCC, right? In which case, you can also set babies' needs never to decay:

MCCC > MCCC Settings > Gameplay Settings > Motive Decay > Baby Motive Decay Percent = 0

If you set it to zero, babies should not experience any kind of motive decay.

invisiblgirl · February 2019

Daycare has always worked fine for me - I don't usually use it (I generally have stay-at-home parents), but every few generations, I've not wanted the parent to quit her job, so, daycare. I know I've used it within the last month, and my toddler even gained a few skill levels and was fine when the mother got home. (She needed some fun, but no major needs in the red.) It worked much better than the nanny I hired at one point.

GalacticGal · February 2019

rosemow wrote: »

Hello
You may like to post feedback on this AHQ EA thread
https://answers.ea.com/t5/Bug-Reports/OPEN-Toddler-not-being-taken-care-of-at-daycare-low-needs/m-p/6582081#M56946

Okay, I posted what happened to me over there.

GalacticGal · February 2019

ListentoToppDogg wrote: »

Daycare is literally trash. My toddlers' needs are never met and its ridiculous. I usually just call a nanny to hang around for a few hours whenever I have a family leave the house.

I tried that in the past, too, but the Nannies are useless on so many levels.

GalacticGal · February 2019

Simpkin wrote: »

I learned this from others and got the UI cheat mod just in case when I had 3 toddlers in the house. I saw the game not taking care of their needs. Didn't start risking it
I don't consider it cheating cause... um, the game fails at it itself.

I've heard others mention this UI cheat. What is it?

GalacticGal · February 2019

Simpatsyann wrote: »

friendlysimmers wrote: »

a much easier solution is just skip the baby and toddler stage and age them up to child

Yes, but that eliminates the whole "playing them" part of it, which, regardless of your opinion on the lifestage, she should be able to do if she wishes.

I enjoy spending the time with my Sims. I also don't skip the infant object, so that my Sims' children are spaced apart the way I desire. Toddlers are so much more fun than they were. I loved them in Sims2, but as a player unless you turned aging off, you didn't get enough time with them. They were dumbed down so badly in Sims3, it was almost pointless to have them, but for spacing the children apart. I wish for the best of three worlds, and almost have it in this iteration. But stealing the baby like that was just wrong.

GalacticGal · February 2019

loubyloulou wrote: »

GalacticGal wrote: »

Advarius9001 wrote: »

Great, overzealous invisible social workers. I'm gonna flag Wendy Furystrykar's motives to never decay. No one's taking her away on my watch!

Yes, but since the infants are 'objects' what are we to do to protect them?

I think you use MCCC, right? In which case, you can also set babies' needs never to decay:

MCCC > MCCC Settings > Gameplay Settings > Motive Decay > Baby Motive Decay Percent = 0

If you set it to zero, babies should not experience any kind of motive decay.

I do use MCCC, but obviously not to its fullest extent. THANK YOU.

bshag4lv · February 2019

So sorry this happened to you GalacticGal, I'm like elenorbriton, nobody goes anywhere until the kid/kids are children. With that being said, I used a nanny a couple of times with the tots and everything went well. I also age up babies after they've become friends with the parents and siblings and then I will age up toddlers ahead of time, as long as they have mastered potty training and talking. I don't trust butlers...never have had one. I read too many horror stories to have one of those.

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