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Fix things falling out of the queue already!
ravynwolvf
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It just keeps getting worse and worse. I'm not playing with mods, just repaired the game so I don't need that advice yet again, and it simply IS a gameplay issue. There are now so many reasons queued interactions disappear; some sim you're not even talking to wants to hug your sim, the dog needs to walk up to you and do I don't know what, your sim has to go "see what's happening" (whatever that means), the sim you're talking to has to stop, look at their phone, then wander off, etc. But seriously, for starters, I wish you'd dump the insanely stupid deal where if your sim reaches a certain point in, say hygiene, they will stop everything they are doing to wave their hands around and complain. I'm playing with no autonomy, and that's supposed to mean NO AUTONOMY! Meaning, I'm the boss, now do what I say! Plus, it's so ridiculous, because half the time they are queued to shower already, and stop because they need to shower, so I have to tell them to go shower. Again. Really? You're too dirty to get cleaned up?
And so many other random reasons are being generated by the sim with the queue itself. For example, I just had a sim sitting talking to someone, and granted their fun was a tad low. But not once, not twice, but three times they dumped their full queue of interactions to get up and swing their feet around in dismay. Once is bad enough, but I get it, you're bored, now sit your butt down and do as I say and you can dance later. It's so flippin' irritating having to queue it all up again for no reason! And what is the logic? They'll stand for an hour or more doing nothing with autonomy on, and cancel out interactions if you tell them what to do. Are you heading the game towards a statue simulation? At times I'm probably up to a 1/3 failure rate on queued interactions during a sim day, and it's unacceptable from a gameplay point of view. Can't play with autonomy on because they act like a bunch of 🐸🐸🐸🐸 when they even finally get around to doing something, but it's like pulling teeth to tell them what to do, too. I get that there are reasons things have to drop out or they would get perpetually stuck (although it's actually quite difficult sometimes for you to cancel something queued you don't want them to do, too), but they are now finding way too many reasons to interrupt their own actions, and it's really annoying.
It's like we have less and less control of the game. You guys program it to change sims into random outfits for some "theme" (although it seems a bit better now on that front, at least). Sim parent get calls from the school and such with no choice on them; you have one thing to click, and it adds to maybe responsibility and subtracts from emotional control. No choice in the matter. And Sims are constantly overriding our queued up actions, like a little digital revolution. Maybe the next Sims game should be called "Sims 5; The Anarchy Generation." It would be nice to put the game back in the hands of the player before the player has no reason to pick it up.
And so many other random reasons are being generated by the sim with the queue itself. For example, I just had a sim sitting talking to someone, and granted their fun was a tad low. But not once, not twice, but three times they dumped their full queue of interactions to get up and swing their feet around in dismay. Once is bad enough, but I get it, you're bored, now sit your butt down and do as I say and you can dance later. It's so flippin' irritating having to queue it all up again for no reason! And what is the logic? They'll stand for an hour or more doing nothing with autonomy on, and cancel out interactions if you tell them what to do. Are you heading the game towards a statue simulation? At times I'm probably up to a 1/3 failure rate on queued interactions during a sim day, and it's unacceptable from a gameplay point of view. Can't play with autonomy on because they act like a bunch of 🐸🐸🐸🐸 when they even finally get around to doing something, but it's like pulling teeth to tell them what to do, too. I get that there are reasons things have to drop out or they would get perpetually stuck (although it's actually quite difficult sometimes for you to cancel something queued you don't want them to do, too), but they are now finding way too many reasons to interrupt their own actions, and it's really annoying.
It's like we have less and less control of the game. You guys program it to change sims into random outfits for some "theme" (although it seems a bit better now on that front, at least). Sim parent get calls from the school and such with no choice on them; you have one thing to click, and it adds to maybe responsibility and subtracts from emotional control. No choice in the matter. And Sims are constantly overriding our queued up actions, like a little digital revolution. Maybe the next Sims game should be called "Sims 5; The Anarchy Generation." It would be nice to put the game back in the hands of the player before the player has no reason to pick it up.
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Heck, even with autonomy off, you still have Toddlers autonomously begging to be let out of the highchair, which cancels anything and everything the nearest caretaker is doing, no matter what! You also have sims automatically cleaning up the dishes with autonomy off--which really shouldn't happen unless they have the Neat trait--which, in a home with multiple sims eating all at once, can lead to sims going off to clean up their dishes in the bathroom sink because the kitchen sink and the dish washer are occupied...and the action doesn't cancel until your sim is half way up the stairs, even though you X-ed it out before they even reached the kitchen door!!
And the bad part is, it wasn't nearly this bad at launch. At launch, with autonomy on, I could leave my game running unattended for five minutes and my sims would be just fine. Now? Leave them unattended for that long and it's Disasterpiece Theater... -_-;
Examples I can remember. Tell Sim to sit, (just for a moment while player deals with a different Sim) do they stay put? No. Even with Autonomy Off..This has never worked since day one. They get up to cycle through their obsessions (loops) dancing or talking over and over and over. When fun is full and social is full and no bad pressing emotion to make them do that, either. It's just a farse. At least in older games, though they may stand a few minutes more than I like they know they don't need to socialize more, they know they don't need to watch more TV, they know they don't need to talk and talk and talk themselves to death nor to eat when full. And in older games when I say sit, they sit until I make them get up. With or without autonomy on or off.
Frankly this was the most backwards Sims game I ever played. It has it's very good points but when it comes to if they are smarter, no, I would have to say no, someday I hope they finally get all this right in this series, and strike a happy balance the players can brag about.
Pretty sure it used to say "You Rule!" as a catch phrase for the Sims. Now it's more like "They Rule!"
In earlier games I was able to queue multiple tasks at the same time and the sims would do them without interruption. Now it's them moving about, talking to somebody, getting food and going to bed when I've asked them to do other things even when their health bars are still pretty much full.
Exactly! Plus, you just reminded me of those actions that you really can't queue up above certain other actions or else your sim will swap the order of the two! I don't know why that is going on, but my sims re-prioritizing my instructions is so not cool...
The father of my family went walking the dog for a medium amount of time. After one and a half hours he wasn't even done yet! So I get rid of the action in the queue and command him to go home. But he just stands there for hours and hours!!! Apparently he couldn't walk away or something?! So I had to get the wife to take the dog with her home and the husband had to go home alone. At this point it was already middle of the night.
I literally don't play at all and I play once at it is just a complete disaster! It doesn't even work!! Like what?! It made me so mad that I quit the game immediately!
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I love that in the sims 1-3 (I still play them all) that if I want to stack up a bunch of Interactions for my sims to keep them busy so I can check on a family member I can. They will just go through their list. If their needs drop say like energy then they may refuse anything physical but I would be able to see that and probably wouldn't be having them do anything like that any way.
The sims 4 I don't see the point in setting up anything in the queue as they will just cancel it for no rhyme or reason or decide that when I say go and paint the need to stuff the poor toddler into the high chair for the hundredth time to feed him animal crackers is more important. You Rule? Yeah right. I'll crack the jokes!
The AI will be this games downfall. After three years its getting worse not better.
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This. Along with dropping tasks, even though most of the lots have dishwashers, they STILL use the bathroom sink!!!! Musical chairs is back with a vengeance too. I never knew the term 'rage quit' until this game.
The motto should be "You DON'T rule anymore."
I think 5 will be worse and the thought actually scares me. EA knows there are plenty of people that will continue to snap this up, horrible AI, glitches and watered-down packs be darned. They don't HAVE to fix anything.
Trust me I will run to look at MTS. Thank you for this. It was driving me insane.
I have to disagree with that. I like the sims 4 a great deal, better than Sims 2 which is my favorite, and well I hated Sims 3. I have to say this because I dislike it when people post things such as; Get rid of Sims 4. I think the issue is that the developers think that most players play with full autonomy and want to see the sims always doing things, and they have gone overboard. Still I prefer the gameplay and the game. For me and many others it is indeed "worth it". So please speak for yourself.
This annoys me to no end.