Sims 4 hasn't made us paid for "base game content", it's all been free updates. The Sims 3 was 100% worse for selling minimal content for lots of $$$. Did y'all forget the Sims 3 store? You could spend $2 on a window.
But TS3 didn't have major features missing in the base game. The Sims 4 still doesn't have many things like toddlers and cars. The Store didn't really have any major features at the beginning. Later they started to release sets with premium content. That's when the problem began. Now, we don't have any store, but instead we have Stuff Packs with premium items and lack of new objects. The only positive is that they are cheaper now.
Why do we need cars with a closed world? You would basically see the car outside your sims house, and then again when your sim got out of it when they arrived at the venue.
Have you played TS2? If so then that's how cars could be.
TS2 Cars were my life!
I loved them.
I was really surprised that they didn't have cars in base game, not even one!
And you could even put an alarm in the car and woohoo inside of it
Sims 4 hasn't made us paid for "base game content", it's all been free updates. The Sims 3 was 100% worse for selling minimal content for lots of $$$. Did y'all forget the Sims 3 store? You could spend $2 on a window.
But TS3 didn't have major features missing in the base game. The Sims 4 still doesn't have many things like toddlers and cars. The Store didn't really have any major features at the beginning. Later they started to release sets with premium content. That's when the problem began. Now, we don't have any store, but instead we have Stuff Packs with premium items and lack of new objects. The only positive is that they are cheaper now.
Why do we need cars with a closed world? You would basically see the car outside your sims house, and then again when your sim got out of it when they arrived at the venue.
Have you played TS2? If so then that's how cars could be.
TS2 Cars were my life!
I loved them.
I was really surprised that they didn't have cars in base game, not even one!
And you could even put an alarm in the car and woohoo inside of it
Hell yeah!
TS2 cars were amazing.
TS3 cars were rubbish and I only used them for my Sims to steal and sell.
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My concern with this survey (and since I haven't read through all the pages has probably been mentioned already) is the fact that this isn't a public survey we can all take. It was sent to a select few so the resulting numbers will be skewed. If they made it a public survey, Generations would probably come out on top no question. But since I don't know how many people received the survey I can only hope it still does and that this really was the Sim team letting us know it's coming. Either way, I think Generations HAS to be the next EP. Now that we know toddlers, pre-teens and more family-play are possible we can only be patient that much longer before we start doubting the team's capabilities again (and I'd say with good reason).
My concern with this survey (and since I haven't read through all the pages has probably been mentioned already) is the fact that this isn't a public survey we can all take. It was sent to a select few so the resulting numbers will be skewed. If they made it a public survey, Generations would probably come out on top no question. But since I don't know how many people received the survey I can only hope it still does and that this really was the Sim team letting us know it's coming. Either way, I think Generations HAS to be the next EP. Now that we know toddlers, pre-teens and more family-play are possible we can only be patient that much longer before we start doubting the team's capabilities again (and I'd say with good reason).
If anyone choses the apocalypse and that's what ends up coming out.
I WILL CRY
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Once again we've come to the conclusion that Sims 2 did it best.
Sims 2 dominates.
It was the high in the Sims franchise.
It had the best NPC's.
The best towns.
And the best gameplay.
I think it also had the best stories and sims I loved the Bella Goth mystery and it all started in The Sims 2. Now we do not have any interesting stories or household in my opinion (everything is happening in 'alternative' universe in TS4, which in my opinion is just lazy explanation).
I'm not sure why everyone is so happy about this survey. EA didn't need a survey to know that people want toddlers back, or to know that many of things listed there are features people want. They are well aware of what people want. I think this was simply a way to pacify people on here because they saw the uproar over Get Together, and it seems to be working for many. Some people are even buying expansions they didn't get before because they think toddlers are coming now and they're happy.
I want them just as much as everyone else, but I'm not getting my hopes up about this. Like someone else here said, they'll end up releasing whatever they were going to release anyway. I hate to be negative, but you know, it is what is is with them right now. It's just a survey...and one that a lot of avid players didn't even get to participate in.
I think it's because people finally hear something about toddlers. Since the team barely talks about this subject it's nice to see that this new survey is showing a possible EP containing toddlers & pre-teens (which we never had except Freeplay). It's not a yes or no answer and I think everyone knows this might be speculation, but I also understand that people are a bit relieved seeing this might happen.
The last survey people got (last year) had EP's in it that actually came out, so there's a high chance of this happening again, but this time with content almost everyone wants. I see what you mean though, you don't want to get your hopes up, but to me, it seems that you can guess a little that this might actually happen.
Sorry but I just don't believe them. I think it is just another *carrot* they are dangling.
I have stopped playing the game since before the spa pack was released, there just isn't anything of my playstyle in this so called game. After what I saw from Rachel, well that was enough for me to realise that even after all this time since the release, they really are NOT listening to family playstyle simmers.
They can continue with their *vision* and I will continue to still enjoy playing Sims2 and Sims3 without the demand to be online with Origin just to play my single player games.
Well, for me, the survey changes nothing. It's not a promise on anything, it's not confirmation that they are working on certain things. If anything, it kind of clarifies that we'll never see toddlers unless they come in an EP that we have to buy.
And how long do they work on EPs for? It could be way, way in the future before any of these ideas come out and who's to say which ones will get chosen? Ultimately, EA have the final say.
For everyone who has put off buying content because of the lack of toddlers/family play PLEASE don't start buying at simply a suggestion that they might return. That's just silly and i have a feeling this survey was designed to make us do that. I'm very much convinced this survey wasn't so innocent. I think they had an agenda. Don't let that pay off for them. Buy content when we have confirmation and not before, otherwise all our resistance to buy content will have been for nothing.
Sims 4 hasn't made us paid for "base game content", it's all been free updates. The Sims 3 was 100% worse for selling minimal content for lots of $$$. Did y'all forget the Sims 3 store? You could spend $2 on a window.
But TS3 didn't have major features missing in the base game. The Sims 4 still doesn't have many things like toddlers and cars. The Store didn't really have any major features at the beginning. Later they started to release sets with premium content. That's when the problem began. Now, we don't have any store, but instead we have Stuff Packs with premium items and lack of new objects. The only positive is that they are cheaper now.
Why do we need cars with a closed world? You would basically see the car outside your sims house, and then again when your sim got out of it when they arrived at the venue.
Some people are just... ! They will just be happy even if we don't get cars, pets, more than two seasons.I guess this reflects how low the expectations are for this game.
For everyone who has put off buying content because of the lack of toddlers/family play PLEASE don't start buying at simply a suggestion that they might return. That's just silly and i have a feeling this survey was designed to make us do that. I'm very much convinced this survey wasn't so innocent. I think they had an agenda. Don't let that pay off for them. Buy content when we have confirmation and not before, otherwise all our resistance to buy content will have been for nothing.
^This, I agree with!
My god it's just a survey! I can hear the sound of every cheerleader climaxing right now.
Could anyone who got the survey share more pics of the pack descriptions like Generations? I would like to see what else they have planned for the possible EP besides pre-teens (and toddlers, but those need to be in a free update).
For everyone who has put off buying content because of the lack of toddlers/family play PLEASE don't start buying at simply a suggestion that they might return. That's just silly and i have a feeling this survey was designed to make us do that. I'm very much convinced this survey wasn't so innocent. I think they had an agenda. Don't let that pay off for them. Buy content when we have confirmation and not before, otherwise all our resistance to buy content will have been for nothing.
^This, I agree with!
My god it's just survey! I can hear the sound of every cheerleader climaxing right now.
Could anyone who got the survey share more pics of the pack descriptions like Generations? I would like to see what else they have planned for the possible EP besides pre-teens (and toddlers, but those need to be in a free update).
I'm not sure why everyone is so happy about this survey. EA didn't need a survey to know that people want toddlers back, or to know that many of things listed there are features people want. They are well aware of what people want. I think this was simply a way to pacify people on here because they saw the uproar over Get Together, and it seems to be working for many. Some people are even buying expansions they didn't get before because they think toddlers are coming now and they're happy.
I want them just as much as everyone else, but I'm not getting my hopes up about this. Like someone else here said, they'll end up releasing whatever they were going to release anyway. I hate to be negative, but you know, it is what is is with them right now. It's just a survey...and one that a lot of avid players didn't even get to participate in.
I think the reason why we're all (well, not /all/, but a good majority of us) so happy is not because they've been confirmed to return, but because when there was always someone saying "toddlers will never return, they won't ever do that, it's impossible bla bla blah" now we have a confirmation that they might return. That it's not impossible for the devs to work on them, especially if even pre-teens are coming along too! That there's a good chance we will finally get them in game
So many simmers have asked repeatedly for a word on matter, an answer, if they've been listening to this community or not, and even if they didn't respond directly till today, they put out a survey mentioning that toddlers are, in fact, a possibility. This is enough to lift the spirit - for me, at least.
Sims 4 hasn't made us paid for "base game content", it's all been free updates. The Sims 3 was 100% worse for selling minimal content for lots of $$$. Did y'all forget the Sims 3 store? You could spend $2 on a window.
But TS3 didn't have major features missing in the base game. The Sims 4 still doesn't have many things like toddlers and cars. The Store didn't really have any major features at the beginning. Later they started to release sets with premium content. That's when the problem began. Now, we don't have any store, but instead we have Stuff Packs with premium items and lack of new objects. The only positive is that they are cheaper now.
Why do we need cars with a closed world? You would basically see the car outside your sims house, and then again when your sim got out of it when they arrived at the venue.
Have you played TS2? If so then that's how cars could be.
Agreed. Sims 2 cars are a good compromise with a closed world. It makes things more immersive.
For everyone who has put off buying content because of the lack of toddlers/family play PLEASE don't start buying at simply a suggestion that they might return. That's just silly and i have a feeling this survey was designed to make us do that. I'm very much convinced this survey wasn't so innocent. I think they had an agenda. Don't let that pay off for them. Buy content when we have confirmation and not before, otherwise all our resistance to buy content will have been for nothing.
Really? The other leaked survey had get to work on it. Clearly, these surveys are real.
However, I agree that people shouldn't buy things they don't want for hopes of something they do.
For everyone who has put off buying content because of the lack of toddlers/family play PLEASE don't start buying at simply a suggestion that they might return. That's just silly and i have a feeling this survey was designed to make us do that. I'm very much convinced this survey wasn't so innocent. I think they had an agenda. Don't let that pay off for them. Buy content when we have confirmation and not before, otherwise all our resistance to buy content will have been for nothing.
Really? The other leaked survey had get to work on it. Clearly, these surveys are real.
However, I agree that people shouldn't buy things they don't want for hopes of something they do.
I don't doubt that they are real. However, nothing on here is promised. We don't know that we'll see all of this content. We don't know that they won't rework some of these ideas into GPs or split content between several packs. We don't know when we'll see it.
I think it's best to see the game for what it is now and to buy each DLC because you're genuinely interested in that specific DLC.
What am I getting excited for exactly? The fact I have to pay for a base game feature?
Why is it a base game feature? Because you say so or because you feel it should have been? Either way it wasn't, so let's move on.
um they been a base game feature sense 2 and 3?
Well, that was TS2 and TS3, it really have nothing to do with TS4 in all honesty. And the way they were done in TS3 was quite lackluster. If they bring them back, I would like them to be more fleshed out.
This totally made me LOL! The only thing that will be fleshed out is their hands in our wallets/purses. I am not going to pay for toddlers if that means I don't get all the other goodies, so be it...
Seriously, would EA/Maxis dare to make toddlers paid DLC? They had better not, or else TS4 will be in a grave so deep it's going to be nearly impossible for it to get out.
Considering that there are already many people on this post alone who are suggesting they'll be more than happy to pay for toddlers, The Sims 4 will be just fine if EA did this. I personally think it would be an extremely stupid idea, but that's not the same opinion many others seem to have... apparently some players like paying extra for base game content and features.
They are clearly saying, that if that was their only option then so be it. They want them no matter what.
No one is saying they are happy too.
But as I said, if they patch in Toddlers and then because you did that you buy Generations, you're effectively paying for Toddlers.
Which is why people who already plan to buy Generations no matter what, don't mind paying for toddlers, because they would be paying the same as getting toddlers patched in and buying generations.
Which is why they don't care.
Nothing is free with the Sims regardless what is said in presentations. Even if toddlers are patched into the base, Simmers are still paying for them. You can't get toddlers without buying the base game. It's still $30-$70 at least for them. It's just like how all the other patches are not free either including basements, dishwashers, ghosts, family trees, careers, and pools just to name a few.
What I never understood about EA marketing Sims 4 for a younger audience is how they think a teen has the money to buy all these game/expansion packs.
I'm an adult & can purchase everything they come out with -but haven't bought a thing since GTW. Why? No family play/no toddlers.
If I get toddlers (and as an added bonus pre-teens) I'm perfectly willing to pay for them. But I can't pay for something not available.
I like the idea of Sims 4 patching in certain things -but leaving it up to the player if they wish to 'add more' gameplay with a game/expansion pack. Everyone should have the option to add whatever they like to their game & if they want it, then pay for it.
I know a basic dishwasher was patched in, so every Sims 4 owner gets it -but I like the idea of the kitchen pack selling for a certain price. If players love kitchens & wish to expand their game, then they can buy it. If others are perfectly happy with the basic dishwasher they can play their game & save their money for something they are really interested in.
To me, it's like going to an 'a la carte restaurant. I can purchase whatever I like separately & not be forced into buying an entree where I won't eat half the items.
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Sims 2 dominates.
It was the high in the Sims franchise.
It had the best NPC's.
The best towns.
And the best gameplay.
Me watching GT at Gamescom.
I'm back!!^-^
Paradox forum name: aMazingSimmer
And you could even put an alarm in the car and woohoo inside of it
Hell yeah!
TS2 cars were amazing.
TS3 cars were rubbish and I only used them for my Sims to steal and sell.
Me watching GT at Gamescom.
I'm back!!^-^
Paradox forum name: aMazingSimmer
If anyone choses the apocalypse and that's what ends up coming out.
I WILL CRY
Me watching GT at Gamescom.
I'm back!!^-^
Paradox forum name: aMazingSimmer
I think it also had the best stories and sims
The last survey people got (last year) had EP's in it that actually came out, so there's a high chance of this happening again, but this time with content almost everyone wants. I see what you mean though, you don't want to get your hopes up, but to me, it seems that you can guess a little that this might actually happen.
I have stopped playing the game since before the spa pack was released, there just isn't anything of my playstyle in this so called game. After what I saw from Rachel, well that was enough for me to realise that even after all this time since the release, they really are NOT listening to family playstyle simmers.
They can continue with their *vision* and I will continue to still enjoy playing Sims2 and Sims3 without the demand to be online with Origin just to play my single player games.
And how long do they work on EPs for? It could be way, way in the future before any of these ideas come out and who's to say which ones will get chosen? Ultimately, EA have the final say.
Some people are just...
^This, I agree with!
My god it's just a survey! I can hear the sound of every cheerleader climaxing right now.
EDIT: Typo as usual.
http://simsvip.com/2015/08/08/the-sims-4-new-expansion-pack-survey-released/
I think the reason why we're all (well, not /all/, but a good majority of us) so happy is not because they've been confirmed to return, but because when there was always someone saying "toddlers will never return, they won't ever do that, it's impossible bla bla blah" now we have a confirmation that they might return. That it's not impossible for the devs to work on them, especially if even pre-teens are coming along too! That there's a good chance we will finally get them in game
So many simmers have asked repeatedly for a word on matter, an answer, if they've been listening to this community or not, and even if they didn't respond directly till today, they put out a survey mentioning that toddlers are, in fact, a possibility. This is enough to lift the spirit - for me, at least.
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Agreed. Sims 2 cars are a good compromise with a closed world. It makes things more immersive.
No thanks. I'm actually excited for get together. The more I learned bout it, the more I'm pumped.
Really? The other leaked survey had get to work on it. Clearly, these surveys are real.
However, I agree that people shouldn't buy things they don't want for hopes of something they do.
I don't doubt that they are real. However, nothing on here is promised. We don't know that we'll see all of this content. We don't know that they won't rework some of these ideas into GPs or split content between several packs. We don't know when we'll see it.
I think it's best to see the game for what it is now and to buy each DLC because you're genuinely interested in that specific DLC.
This totally made me LOL! The only thing that will be fleshed out is their hands in our wallets/purses. I am not going to pay for toddlers if that means I don't get all the other goodies, so be it...
What I never understood about EA marketing Sims 4 for a younger audience is how they think a teen has the money to buy all these game/expansion packs.
I'm an adult & can purchase everything they come out with -but haven't bought a thing since GTW. Why? No family play/no toddlers.
If I get toddlers (and as an added bonus pre-teens) I'm perfectly willing to pay for them. But I can't pay for something not available.
I like the idea of Sims 4 patching in certain things -but leaving it up to the player if they wish to 'add more' gameplay with a game/expansion pack. Everyone should have the option to add whatever they like to their game & if they want it, then pay for it.
I know a basic dishwasher was patched in, so every Sims 4 owner gets it -but I like the idea of the kitchen pack selling for a certain price. If players love kitchens & wish to expand their game, then they can buy it. If others are perfectly happy with the basic dishwasher they can play their game & save their money for something they are really interested in.
To me, it's like going to an 'a la carte restaurant. I can purchase whatever I like separately & not be forced into buying an entree where I won't eat half the items.
I just want the choice.