if Maxis promise to release free patches with gameplay features to enrich the base game (like they did with ghosts, pools, careers) regularly as how frequent they release their dlcs.
Did you pay to have pools in your copy of The Sims 4?
Answer: No.
How you can say that doesn't mean pools were free I have no idea.
Here's the issue with that logic. We also paid to not have dishwashers and to have giant microscopes - there's no way we could have known all of what we weren't getting up front. Many, like me, thought the other elements of the game would make up for what was missing.
When I bought my new teapot and it arrived in the mail, it was broken. I didn't know that when I bought it. Did I buy a broken teapot? By your logic, yes - I was expecting a teapot, I got a teapot, I should just take what I got. Most of us had no idea just how empty the game was of content until we attempted to play it. It's *all* the missing content and lacking gameplay and bugs combined that make it disappointing, not just one thing. When we purchased this, we expected a fully immersive, complete Sims experience on par with what previous base games provided at their release. Many of us believe we did not get what we paid for.
I got a refund for my teapot, by the way. At least some companies actually care about their integrity.
[ When I bought my new teapot and it arrived in the mail, it was broken. I didn't know that when I bought it. Did I buy a broken teapot? By your logic, yes - I was expecting a teapot, I got a teapot, I should just take what I got. Most of us had no idea just how empty the game was of content until we attempted to play it. It's *all* the missing content and lacking gameplay and bugs combined that make it disappointing, not just one thing. When we purchased this, we expected a fully immersive, complete Sims experience on par with what previous base games provided at their release. Many of us believe we did not get what we paid for.
The problem with your, ahem, "logic", is you are looking back on past releases with rose tinted glasses. There is plenty of content in the Sims 4 base game compared to previous base game launches. You are misremembering things or blurring the line between base game and base game + patches + expansion packs + stuff packs.
Trust me. It's okay. You can choose to not like this game all you want, but when you throw a tantrum like this and insist the game completely plums because of all the "missing" features you make it sound like anyone who likes the game is stupid.
Stop that. You're not right. You're wrong. It's okay to be wrong, just admit it and move on.
There are always going to be things left out, from the little things like dishwashers to the bigger things like toddlers. But it's always been that way. I remember people losing their 🐸🐸🐸🐸 because TS3 base game didn't have hot tubs or pool tables and countless other things that were eventually added to the game via an EP that you were probably going to buy anyway even if the base game did come with everything you could have ever hoped for.
[ When I bought my new teapot and it arrived in the mail, it was broken. I didn't know that when I bought it. Did I buy a broken teapot? By your logic, yes - I was expecting a teapot, I got a teapot, I should just take what I got. Most of us had no idea just how empty the game was of content until we attempted to play it. It's *all* the missing content and lacking gameplay and bugs combined that make it disappointing, not just one thing. When we purchased this, we expected a fully immersive, complete Sims experience on par with what previous base games provided at their release. Many of us believe we did not get what we paid for.
The problem with your, ahem, "logic", is you are looking back on past releases with rose tinted glasses. There is plenty of content in the Sims 4 base game compared to previous base game launches. You are misremembering things or blurring the line between base game and base game + patches + expansion packs + stuff packs.
Trust me. It's okay. You can choose to not like this game all you want, but when you throw a tantrum like this and insist the game completely plums because of all the "missing" features you make it sound like anyone who likes the game is stupid.
Stop that. You're not right. You're wrong. It's okay to be wrong, just admit it and move on.
Nope... I had the sims 2 and the sims 3 base games from day one. I played each one for months unadulterated. That's not rose colored glasses, that's being happy with 2 and 3 at release, and feeling horribly let down by 4, and whatever you think of my feelings won't change all those happy months I spent exploring those base games - thankfully - nor will it suddenly make me want to play 4.
And I really shouldn't have to point this out, but since you bring it up, I've never once been anything but happy for the people who do like the game, as I wish I had been able to like it myself. Additionally, I have never been, nor will I ever be, "wrong" about how I, myself feel about something, no matter how much someone else decides my thoughts are invalid and tries to assert their own as fact.
Nope... I had the sims 2 and the sims 3 base games from day one. I played each one for months unadulterated. That's not rose colored glasses, that's being happy with 2 and 3 at release, and feeling horribly let down by 4, and whatever you think of my feelings won't change all those happy months I spent exploring those base games - thankfully - nor will it suddenly make me want to play 4.
I didn't say you didn't enjoy Sims 2 and Sims 3 at launch. Stop reading into what I'm not saying.
Additionally, I have never been, nor will I ever be, "wrong" about how I, myself feel about something,
Wow. Okay. For the third time, cut it out with the strawman arguments. I never said your "feelings" were wrong. As I said before you can dislike Sims 4 all you want. That is your opinion and no one can say your opinion is wrong. What you are wrong about is how the "lack of content" in Sims 4. It has just as much if not more than previous base Sim games at launch.
The problem is you look at something like toddlers and think "Well there ya go! Less content!" It might be less content that you want, but that does not mean the game as a whole has less content.
[ When I bought my new teapot and it arrived in the mail, it was broken. I didn't know that when I bought it. Did I buy a broken teapot? By your logic, yes - I was expecting a teapot, I got a teapot, I should just take what I got. Most of us had no idea just how empty the game was of content until we attempted to play it. It's *all* the missing content and lacking gameplay and bugs combined that make it disappointing, not just one thing. When we purchased this, we expected a fully immersive, complete Sims experience on par with what previous base games provided at their release. Many of us believe we did not get what we paid for.
The problem with your, ahem, "logic", is you are looking back on past releases with rose tinted glasses. There is plenty of content in the Sims 4 base game compared to previous base game launches. You are misremembering things or blurring the line between base game and base game + patches + expansion packs + stuff packs.
Trust me. It's okay. You can choose to not like this game all you want, but when you throw a tantrum like this and insist the game completely plums because of all the "missing" features you make it sound like anyone who likes the game is stupid.
Stop that. You're not right. You're wrong. It's okay to be wrong, just admit it and move on.
Nope... I had the sims 2 and the sims 3 base games from day one. I played each one for months unadulterated. That's not rose colored glasses, that's being happy with 2 and 3 at release, and feeling horribly let down by 4, and whatever you think of my feelings won't change all those happy months I spent exploring those base games - thankfully - nor will it suddenly make me want to play 4.
And I really shouldn't have to point this out, but since you bring it up, I've never once been anything but happy for the people who do like the game, as I wish I had been able to like it myself. Additionally, I have never been, nor will I ever be, "wrong" about how I, myself feel about something, no matter how much someone else decides my thoughts are invalid and tries to assert their own as fact.
Nope... I had the sims 2 and the sims 3 base games from day one. I played each one for months unadulterated. That's not rose colored glasses, that's being happy with 2 and 3 at release, and feeling horribly let down by 4,
yeah... i completely feel the same. isn't it supposed to be better and better? can't believe high ratings and reputations of the franchise had been let down by sims 4 like this. really want to bash this signboard?
I don't think I've ever felt the base games for TS2 or TS3 incomplete on their release dates. In TS4, it's very noticeable and you can't just ignore that you've lost some things you're used to playing with all the time. I really don't want to buy them all back though. All the necessities at least. It makes me wonder if it's all worth it in the end since this new game's gameplay isn't for me anymore.
Nope... I had the sims 2 and the sims 3 base games from day one. I played each one for months unadulterated. That's not rose colored glasses, that's being happy with 2 and 3 at release, and feeling horribly let down by 4,
yeah... i completely feel the same. isn't it supposed to be better and better? can't believe high ratings and reputations of the franchise had been let down by sims 4 like this. really want to bash this signboard?
I don't think I've ever felt the base games for TS2 or TS3 incomplete on their release dates. In TS4, it's very noticeable and you can't just ignore that you've lost some things you're used to playing with all the time. I really don't want to buy them all back though. All the necessities at least. It makes me wonder if it's all worth it in the end since this new game's gameplay isn't for me anymore.
It stands to reason in my mind that each subsequent release should build on the innovations of the last. Furthermore, there is pressure to provide something in the new version that will compete with the previous ones for our attention. And lots of people enjoy 4, and are looking forward to the new content - which is great. But if the game is going to succeed, they need enough people to stick with it or decide to buy it to justify continuing development. It's totally possible that their new fanbase is substantial enough to keep it going, and I hope that's the case. I'd feel sad for the people who truly love the game if it got cut off early. It worries me that a significant number of loyal simmers feel alienated, and I hope they address it. More happy Sims fans is better than fewer happy Sims fans. More sales means a brighter future for the game. I hope they have enough happy fans to get them.
[ When I bought my new teapot and it arrived in the mail, it was broken. I didn't know that when I bought it. Did I buy a broken teapot? By your logic, yes - I was expecting a teapot, I got a teapot, I should just take what I got. Most of us had no idea just how empty the game was of content until we attempted to play it. It's *all* the missing content and lacking gameplay and bugs combined that make it disappointing, not just one thing. When we purchased this, we expected a fully immersive, complete Sims experience on par with what previous base games provided at their release. Many of us believe we did not get what we paid for.
The problem with your, ahem, "logic", is you are looking back on past releases with rose tinted glasses. There is plenty of content in the Sims 4 base game compared to previous base game launches. You are misremembering things or blurring the line between base game and base game + patches + expansion packs + stuff packs.
Trust me. It's okay. You can choose to not like this game all you want, but when you throw a tantrum like this and insist the game completely plums because of all the "missing" features you make it sound like anyone who likes the game is stupid.
Stop that. You're not right. You're wrong. It's okay to be wrong, just admit it and move on.
Wow. Okay. For the third time, cut it out with the strawman arguments. I never said your "feelings" were wrong. As I said before you can dislike Sims 4 all you want. That is your opinion and no one can say your opinion is wrong.What you are wrong about is how the "lack of content" in Sims 4. It has just as much if not more than previous base Sim games at launch.
The problem is you look at something like toddlers and think "Well there ya go! Less content!" It might be less content that you want, but that does not mean the game as a whole has less content.
I love how you contradict yourself there, it's great.
And I'm still looking for the part where she threw a tantrum.
Not every complaint from disgruntled Sims players stems from Toddlers or the lack thereof, by the way. You should probably try to understand that. And in the same way that you love the game and seem to fly into a righteous snark whenever someone expresses an alternate opinion or criticism, maybe you could try to accept the fact that they have as much right to express that opinion as you do.
No, I'm going to wait to see if the AI and multitasking will improve first. My sims are irresponsible and obsessed with chatting (and playing musical chairs) than doing important stuff, like taking care of their kids, or you know, not starving to death, lol!
[ When I bought my new teapot and it arrived in the mail, it was broken. I didn't know that when I bought it. Did I buy a broken teapot? By your logic, yes - I was expecting a teapot, I got a teapot, I should just take what I got. Most of us had no idea just how empty the game was of content until we attempted to play it. It's *all* the missing content and lacking gameplay and bugs combined that make it disappointing, not just one thing. When we purchased this, we expected a fully immersive, complete Sims experience on par with what previous base games provided at their release. Many of us believe we did not get what we paid for.
The problem with your, ahem, "logic", is you are looking back on past releases with rose tinted glasses. There is plenty of content in the Sims 4 base game compared to previous base game launches. You are misremembering things or blurring the line between base game and base game + patches + expansion packs + stuff packs.
Trust me. It's okay. You can choose to not like this game all you want, but when you throw a tantrum like this and insist the game completely plums because of all the "missing" features you make it sound like anyone who likes the game is stupid.
Stop that. You're not right. You're wrong. It's okay to be wrong, just admit it and move on.
Wow. Okay. For the third time, cut it out with the strawman arguments. I never said your "feelings" were wrong. As I said before you can dislike Sims 4 all you want. That is your opinion and no one can say your opinion is wrong.What you are wrong about is how the "lack of content" in Sims 4. It has just as much if not more than previous base Sim games at launch.
The problem is you look at something like toddlers and think "Well there ya go! Less content!" It might be less content that you want, but that does not mean the game as a whole has less content.
I love how you contradict yourself there, it's great.
And I'm still looking for the part where she threw a tantrum.
Not every complaint from disgruntled Sims players stems from Toddlers or the lack thereof, by the way. You should probably try to understand that. And in the same way that you love the game and seem to fly into a righteous snark whenever someone expresses an alternate opinion or criticism, maybe you could try to accept the fact that they have as much right to express that opinion as you do.
Except I didn't contradict myself. Geez can anyone on this forum follow along with a simple post? This is getting silly now.
I do want toddlers as well (even if they were kinda annoying) but I'm so fed up with people screaming for it non-stop and in every thread. I'm pretty sure the Gurus heard us by now.
My husband loves The Sims games....makes it easier for him to buy me gifts. I get carte blanche to purchase what I want and he doesn't have to go shopping....win win for both us.
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Here's the issue with that logic. We also paid to not have dishwashers and to have giant microscopes - there's no way we could have known all of what we weren't getting up front. Many, like me, thought the other elements of the game would make up for what was missing.
When I bought my new teapot and it arrived in the mail, it was broken. I didn't know that when I bought it. Did I buy a broken teapot? By your logic, yes - I was expecting a teapot, I got a teapot, I should just take what I got. Most of us had no idea just how empty the game was of content until we attempted to play it. It's *all* the missing content and lacking gameplay and bugs combined that make it disappointing, not just one thing. When we purchased this, we expected a fully immersive, complete Sims experience on par with what previous base games provided at their release. Many of us believe we did not get what we paid for.
I got a refund for my teapot, by the way. At least some companies actually care about their integrity.
The problem with your, ahem, "logic", is you are looking back on past releases with rose tinted glasses. There is plenty of content in the Sims 4 base game compared to previous base game launches. You are misremembering things or blurring the line between base game and base game + patches + expansion packs + stuff packs.
Trust me. It's okay. You can choose to not like this game all you want, but when you throw a tantrum like this and insist the game completely plums because of all the "missing" features you make it sound like anyone who likes the game is stupid.
Stop that. You're not right. You're wrong. It's okay to be wrong, just admit it and move on.
Nope... I had the sims 2 and the sims 3 base games from day one. I played each one for months unadulterated. That's not rose colored glasses, that's being happy with 2 and 3 at release, and feeling horribly let down by 4, and whatever you think of my feelings won't change all those happy months I spent exploring those base games - thankfully - nor will it suddenly make me want to play 4.
And I really shouldn't have to point this out, but since you bring it up, I've never once been anything but happy for the people who do like the game, as I wish I had been able to like it myself. Additionally, I have never been, nor will I ever be, "wrong" about how I, myself feel about something, no matter how much someone else decides my thoughts are invalid and tries to assert their own as fact.
I didn't say you didn't enjoy Sims 2 and Sims 3 at launch. Stop reading into what I'm not saying.
Again, I didn't say you said anything, I said you're implying it.
Wow. Okay. For the third time, cut it out with the strawman arguments. I never said your "feelings" were wrong. As I said before you can dislike Sims 4 all you want. That is your opinion and no one can say your opinion is wrong. What you are wrong about is how the "lack of content" in Sims 4. It has just as much if not more than previous base Sim games at launch.
The problem is you look at something like toddlers and think "Well there ya go! Less content!" It might be less content that you want, but that does not mean the game as a whole has less content.
So have I. And I agree with Joe.
It stands to reason in my mind that each subsequent release should build on the innovations of the last. Furthermore, there is pressure to provide something in the new version that will compete with the previous ones for our attention. And lots of people enjoy 4, and are looking forward to the new content - which is great. But if the game is going to succeed, they need enough people to stick with it or decide to buy it to justify continuing development. It's totally possible that their new fanbase is substantial enough to keep it going, and I hope that's the case. I'd feel sad for the people who truly love the game if it got cut off early. It worries me that a significant number of loyal simmers feel alienated, and I hope they address it. More happy Sims fans is better than fewer happy Sims fans. More sales means a brighter future for the game. I hope they have enough happy fans to get them.
I love how you contradict yourself there, it's great.
And I'm still looking for the part where she threw a tantrum.
Not every complaint from disgruntled Sims players stems from Toddlers or the lack thereof, by the way. You should probably try to understand that. And in the same way that you love the game and seem to fly into a righteous snark whenever someone expresses an alternate opinion or criticism, maybe you could try to accept the fact that they have as much right to express that opinion as you do.
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Except I didn't contradict myself. Geez can anyone on this forum follow along with a simple post? This is getting silly now.
We deserve free content considering this game is half as-sed and half baked sold for $60+
I do want toddlers as well (even if they were kinda annoying) but I'm so fed up with people screaming for it non-stop and in every thread. I'm pretty sure the Gurus heard us by now.
Woot.