This is the worst implementation of this system so far! It does not hold a candle to its "equivalent" in previous generations. If they really plan on keeping this game going for years to come then there is a chance for an overhaul at least.
Why would devs fix anything? There are so many talented modders out there who love the game and who seek to make it better because of that love. Do you honestly expect developers to expend time and resources on something that someone is already fixing? FOR FREE?! PFFFF. THIS is why I'd rather donate money to modders than buy some new kit. Looking at you, oasis kit. As if I can't build oasis already, gimme a break...
I just don't understand how this team continues to prioritize content like star wars, snow sports and haunted houses over features present in the game that are quite literally unfinished. People paid for whims when they purchased the game, and it's a broken, unfinished mess of a feature. How can they possibly be proud of that?
Edit: I will say, in the stream they did mention how they opened up more recourses for base game additions, followed by "we hope you the community have taken notice, especially with the recent base game additions," and I will say yes I have noticed the recent trend of more substantial/highly requested additions lately. Skin tone overhaul, scared emotions, sentiments, bunk beds, more hair colours, sectional seating, a mysterious new trait slot, they do seem to listen, it's just frustrating that after the game being out for so long that their priorities are still not in the right places.
I've been playing with wants/wishes since sims 2. It's my playstyle. I hate that they gave up on whims in sims 4 and have only restarted playing 4 because of a combination of mods that allow me to play my favourite playstyle. I really hope they revisit whims. Otherwisr im dependent in the availability and generosity of modders to play.
I've been playing with wants/wishes since sims 2. It's my playstyle. I hate that they gave up on whims in sims 4 and have only restarted playing 4 because of a combination of mods that allow me to play my favourite playstyle. I really hope they revisit whims. Otherwisr im dependent in the availability and generosity of modders to play.
I feel like the devs are actively eliminating any autonomous actions and events that the game can throw at you. They've said multiple times they want us to be in complete control of the game. Every single sim, every aspect of the world - nothing happens without us making it happen. [...]
I wish that was true! As a controling player, I feel like the opposite is gradually happening to the game. First they added sims getting jobs on their own (and I'm pretty sure that includes played sims, since I have "skip played sims" ticked in MCCC for the job feature). Then they allow played sims make potentially character breaking phone calls ("come visit your dear mom already" and "you were in a fight! bad sim!") and those with story progression features ("should i have a baby") with no way to disable them or restrict them to unplayeds only. Sentiments take that system even further to an off putting degree.
There are also numerous actions that run autonomously with free will off (share big news, scold toddler in high chair, run up to parents after the monster appeares, watch soccer and many more).
Overhauled or even just a few added whims would have been easy, would have been save. They'd given those who want to follow goals new ones and those who want to play their own way could simply ignore them (or use them as point farms that say nothing about the sim's character, like I do).
I just don't understand how this team continues to prioritize content like star wars, snow sports and haunted houses over features present in the game that are quite literally unfinished. People paid for whims when they purchased the game, and it's a broken, unfinished mess of a feature. How can they possibly be proud of that?
Edit: I will say, in the stream they did mention how they opened up more recourses for base game additions, followed by "we hope you the community have taken notice, especially with the recent base game additions," and I will say yes I have noticed the recent trend of more substantial/highly requested additions lately. Skin tone overhaul, scared emotions, sentiments, bunk beds, more hair colours, sectional seating, a mysterious new trait slot, they do seem to listen, it's just frustrating that after the game being out for so long that their priorities are still not in the right places.
I don't have those in my game, did that come in this month's patch?
I saw them mention the hair colors coming, but when I checked I still had the same original colors.
I also didn't have any options for sectional seating, although I saw the speculation for it coming.
And I did watch the stream yesterday and they pointed out the new trait slot, but never went into detail of what it is or when it's coming.
I feel like the devs are actively eliminating any autonomous actions and events that the game can throw at you. They've said multiple times they want us to be in complete control of the game. Every single sim, every aspect of the world - nothing happens without us making it happen. Look at rotational play. Nothing happens to sims while we leave them alone - the crops in their garden don't even grow. There is no story progression. Whims are disabled by default and are bad anyway, basically just advertising the gameplay objects that came with packs we bought. There are no TS3-style opportunities, which I am a massive advocate for. Opportunities simply give you the option of taking on a task, improving a skill, crafting an object, meeting new sims etc - it doesn't force anything on you that you don't want. But the game doesn't even provide you with an option to be influenced. Pretty much the only way to make the world and sims around you do anything autonomously is to create a dozen highly specific clubs.
Ultimately, this just makes the world, sims and overall game static and dead. If you can't figure out what to do next, just create a new save file and do it all again.
I don't want to be in complete control of game, I need game to throw some surprises my way.
I actually really like whims. Sure, I find it annoying when all of my sims want a bee box in the summertime and then want to bond with said bees, but overall, it really drives my gameplay. I like knowing what my sims want, and it encourages me to try different areas of the game. Otherwise, I get into a routine that quickly spirals into a rut.
I could be wrong but I think it's going to be replaced with a better system in the future. It was very basic and over simplified which is why I never really used it. They hear people want wants and fears so maybe something better than whims are on their to do list. 🤷♀️
I could be wrong but I think it's going to be replaced with a better system in the future. It was very basic and over simplified which is why I never really used it. They hear people want wants and fears so maybe something better than whims are on their to do list. 🤷♀️
I could be wrong but I think it's going to be replaced with a better system in the future. It was very basic and over simplified which is why I never really used it. They hear people want wants and fears so maybe something better than whims are on their to do list. 🤷♀️
Too many years have passed for that.
I also think that we should try to judge the sims4 based on what it is now, not what it could become in the future. They could update whims sometime in the future, or they could not do anything with them at all.
I could be wrong but I think it's going to be replaced with a better system in the future. It was very basic and over simplified which is why I never really used it. They hear people want wants and fears so maybe something better than whims are on their to do list. 🤷♀️
I very much hope you are right but I have my doubts. The team don’t even seem to acknowledge that there is an issue with the live mode gameplay. All they ever update is more and more build and buy/CAS and it’s getting really tiresome. I bought a life simulator game, not a building simulator.
I love the game, I really do but as a player that has no interest in building it’s really just upsetting to see that the part of the game that I do enjoy the most and that needs the most attention is constantly being neglected. I have been feeling quite down about the game since I read about this yesterday.
I could be wrong but I think it's going to be replaced with a better system in the future. It was very basic and over simplified which is why I never really used it. They hear people want wants and fears so maybe something better than whims are on their to do list. 🤷♀️
I very much hope you are right but I have my doubts. The team don’t even seem to acknowledge that there is an issue with the live mode gameplay. All they ever update is more and more build and buy/CAS and it’s getting really tiresome. I bought a life simulator game, not a building simulator.
I love the game, I really do but as a player that has no interest in building it’s really just upsetting to see that the part of the game that I do enjoy the most and that needs the most attention is constantly being neglected. I have been feeling quite down about the game since I read about this yesterday.
think of it this way they said they were interested in going back to it it is better then nothing
I could be wrong but I think it's going to be replaced with a better system in the future. It was very basic and over simplified which is why I never really used it. They hear people want wants and fears so maybe something better than whims are on their to do list. 🤷♀️
I very much hope you are right but I have my doubts. The team don’t even seem to acknowledge that there is an issue with the live mode gameplay. All they ever update is more and more build and buy/CAS and it’s getting really tiresome. I bought a life simulator game, not a building simulator.
I love the game, I really do but as a player that has no interest in building it’s really just upsetting to see that the part of the game that I do enjoy the most and that needs the most attention is constantly being neglected. I have been feeling quite down about the game since I read about this yesterday.
think of it this way they said they were interested in going back to it it is better then nothing
Yeah. I hope they will eventually see reason. I have mods for the whims currently. I just wish that so many mods weren’t always needed in order to make the gameplay more fun.
Thank you so much for all the replies here. It’s nice to see that I’m not the only one concerned about this.
I don't mind that they aren't adding any as long as they allow us to keep the ones we have at least. I use Little Miss Sams Whim Overhaul so that makes the whims we do have more meaningful which makes using them a lot more enjoyable.
I don't mind that they aren't adding any as long as they allow us to keep the ones we have at least. I use Little Miss Sams Whim Overhaul so that makes the whims we do have more meaningful which makes using them a lot more enjoyable.
I actually really like whims. Sure, I find it annoying when all of my sims want a bee box in the summertime and then want to bond with said bees, but overall, it really drives my gameplay. I like knowing what my sims want, and it encourages me to try different areas of the game. Otherwise, I get into a routine that quickly spirals into a rut.
why fix something thats not even broken i relly do not get it as a player of the sims 4
It became broken the day they abandoned it. They haven't updated whims for years. And the one's still there are not in depth. They're basically random...
Guys, they said that they're not working in it now, but that they'd like to revisit it later. That's...a positive thing, ain't it?
It is. Better then all this years, when they never even mentioned them. Anyway devs still seem more focused on bb and cas upgrades. I'm not against those, but bb and cas are 4's greatest strenghts. At this point they should be more enthusiastic about gameplay updates imho.
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Edit: I will say, in the stream they did mention how they opened up more recourses for base game additions, followed by "we hope you the community have taken notice, especially with the recent base game additions," and I will say yes I have noticed the recent trend of more substantial/highly requested additions lately. Skin tone overhaul, scared emotions, sentiments, bunk beds, more hair colours, sectional seating, a mysterious new trait slot, they do seem to listen, it's just frustrating that after the game being out for so long that their priorities are still not in the right places.
also its not fair to ps players
They are not relevant enough without mods. They are mostly random and not enough in quantity considering they simply stop updating them years ago.
I wish that was true! As a controling player, I feel like the opposite is gradually happening to the game. First they added sims getting jobs on their own (and I'm pretty sure that includes played sims, since I have "skip played sims" ticked in MCCC for the job feature). Then they allow played sims make potentially character breaking phone calls ("come visit your dear mom already" and "you were in a fight! bad sim!") and those with story progression features ("should i have a baby") with no way to disable them or restrict them to unplayeds only. Sentiments take that system even further to an off putting degree.
There are also numerous actions that run autonomously with free will off (share big news, scold toddler in high chair, run up to parents after the monster appeares, watch soccer and many more).
Overhauled or even just a few added whims would have been easy, would have been save. They'd given those who want to follow goals new ones and those who want to play their own way could simply ignore them (or use them as point farms that say nothing about the sim's character, like I do).
I don't have those in my game, did that come in this month's patch?
I saw them mention the hair colors coming, but when I checked I still had the same original colors.
I also didn't have any options for sectional seating, although I saw the speculation for it coming.
And I did watch the stream yesterday and they pointed out the new trait slot, but never went into detail of what it is or when it's coming.
I don't want to be in complete control of game, I need game to throw some surprises my way.
That'ld awesome but im not so confident...
Too many years have passed for that.
I also think that we should try to judge the sims4 based on what it is now, not what it could become in the future. They could update whims sometime in the future, or they could not do anything with them at all.
I very much hope you are right but I have my doubts. The team don’t even seem to acknowledge that there is an issue with the live mode gameplay. All they ever update is more and more build and buy/CAS and it’s getting really tiresome. I bought a life simulator game, not a building simulator.
I love the game, I really do but as a player that has no interest in building it’s really just upsetting to see that the part of the game that I do enjoy the most and that needs the most attention is constantly being neglected. I have been feeling quite down about the game since I read about this yesterday.
think of it this way they said they were interested in going back to it it is better then nothing
Yeah. I hope they will eventually see reason. I have mods for the whims currently. I just wish that so many mods weren’t always needed in order to make the gameplay more fun.
Thank you so much for all the replies here. It’s nice to see that I’m not the only one concerned about this.
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yes but I want more and so does miss sam
+1
Without whims, I'm lost.
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It became broken the day they abandoned it. They haven't updated whims for years. And the one's still there are not in depth. They're basically random...
It is. Better then all this years, when they never even mentioned them. Anyway devs still seem more focused on bb and cas upgrades. I'm not against those, but bb and cas are 4's greatest strenghts. At this point they should be more enthusiastic about gameplay updates imho.