I wonder if the mini fridge can hold leftovers. Seems feasible, right? Then we can at least buy or make few decent meals on another lot, go back to the dorm and throw them in the fridge.
I’m already thinking of ways around it and still not sure I will even buy it half off.
My interest in TS4 is so much at an all time low that I've barely been following this pack. There are so many other games with development studios really innovating in their franchises/genres, whereas The Sims has been doing the opposite and branching away from the life sim genre.
With that said, I did skip around the livestream after it finished (and thankfully I waited, what a bore!), and... meh. I was really looking forward to a solid roommate and dorm system the most and it just doesn't seem very fun to work/play with. Aside from that, the pack is called university. Why is a good 85-90% of the university designed as rabbitholes in a closed world game?
This just feels like a half-baked dorm pack repurposed from systems already in the game. With all of the bulk of the university experience being rabbitholes and off-screen, they really could have fleshed out dorms to be awesome, and they just look boring.
The pack is already $31 on some sites, and will be half off in the coming weeks, without a doubt. I don't recommend anyone pay full price for this. Even half off, I think I'm skipping this pack.
- no stoves, or cooking facilities of any kind other than a microwave allowed in dorms. Seriously, What. The. Plum.?!
- both unis having the same degrees on offer - I know IRL multiple unis offer the same degrees, but when you've got only 2 to choose from this feels lazy.
- No lip piercings (or upper ear of that matter) - what's the point in only giving us eyebrow and nose piercings? (also, at least where I'm from it's illegal for a piercing studio to pierce the inside 1/3 of the eyebrow because it could sever nerves that control the muscles in the forehead, therefore I've never seen anyone with it, which is probably why I think it looks plum).
So we finally get the option to lock our computers...
For me, I feel like this pack will be another Strangerville, I only bought that pack for the laptops and military career and I'll probably only get DU for robots and being able to stop randos from using my sims computer.
On the topic of robots though, I'm not really sure how to feel about them- the cleaning bot is just another roomba from Cats and Dogs, the gardening bot is just Patchy from Seasons with less interactions and no set time limit, the party bot is interesting but it's a caterer crossed with the Lin-Z speaker and as for the Servo...
The Servo seems limited, or rather I have questions that I don't think got addressed. So the servo (Did you know that servo is Australian slang for a service station) is playable, can they go to university? Be a celebrity? Learn the robotics skill? Could a servo build a robot to repair itself to become self-sufficient? Will umbrellas protect servos from damage when it rains?
I love occults, anything that adds some sort of challenge or new needs we have to manage is great but I'm worried the bots are going to be another IL mermaid situation, really cool looking but seriously lacking depth gameplay wise.
Then again, I stopped watching the stream an hour or so in.
I watched the livestream twice, and I got the feeling going to Uni is pointless. If all we are getting is an advance on a career what is thew point of sending them Uni takes at least 3 weeks to do (4 courses a week, 12 courses required). You can get a jump on careers multiple ways (A in high school, Fame perk, club perk, and, wishing well, and a reward trait) and many of them can be done pre YA. So if I have an A student in high school, and just work the stated job with planning I can be at least to level 6 in a career by the end of time it takes to graduate from Uni. So unless it lets you start at rank 7 or higher going to Uni does nothing not going and picking a career wouldn't do for your sim. If it starts you any lower than the 6th level going is actually holding your sim back. So other than role playing what is the point?? Someone please explain it to me. Make me see the point in even having a sim go to Uni.
The only tow thing this has going for it is roommates and robots. Neither have all that much to do with Universities. This pack should have been called Discover Rabbit Holes. I was increasingly unhappy with the pack, but after the livestream, I am wanting this less than most stuff packs. I am getting it for the robots. I don't see the point of sending a sim to Uni. I just don't. Besides I hate Rabbit holes. This is the first livestream that actually made me want the pack less. Given my desire for this pack is at an all time low, that is saying something. Is it just me or did they run out of thing to show us in two hours? That is not a good sign.
I watched the livestream twice, and I got the feeling going to Uni is pointless. If all we are getting is an advance on a career what is thew point of sending them Uni takes at least 3 weeks to do (4 courses a week, 12 courses required). You can get a jump on careers multiple ways (A in high school, Fame perk, club perk, and, wishing well, and a reward trait) and many of them can be done pre YA. So if I have an A student in high school, and just work the stated job with planning I can be at least to level 6 in a career by the end of time it takes to graduate from Uni. So unless it lets you start at rank 7 or higher going to Uni does nothing not going and picking a career wouldn't do for your sim. If it starts you any lower than the 6th level going is actually holding your sim back. So other than role playing what is the point?? Someone please explain it to me. Make me see the point in even having a sim go to Uni.
The only tow thing this has going for it is roommates and robots. Neither have all that much to do with Universities. This pack should have been called Discover Rabbit Holes. I was increasingly unhappy with the pack, but after the livestream, I am wanting this less than most stuff packs. I am getting it for the robots. I don't see the point of sending a sim to Uni. I just don't. Besides I hate Rabbit holes. This is the first livestream that actually made me want the pack less. Given my desire for this pack is at an all time low, that is saying something. Is it just me or did they run out of thing to show us in two hours? That is not a good sign.
I know it was awkward when there was still about like an hour left? And they stood there like "Ummmmmmm what can talk about or show off?" and proceed to just sit there and do nothing...focused on the campus .... like...what?!?? There are MANY things you could talk about or address.
Most of my complaint is about college rock radio station in Discover University. College rock should be the part of Discover University, or else The Sims 4 will be ninety nine thousand nine hundred and ninety nine percent flat as heck! *groans loudly* College rock, please come back right now!!! Please!!!!!!
Instead they added HipHop. Made a few happy at least.
Yeah! I know I love hip hop, but I wanted college rock in Discover University, The Sims 2 University and The Sims 3 University Life both got college-themed rock radio stations!
I watched the livestream twice, and I got the feeling going to Uni is pointless. If all we are getting is an advance on a career what is thew point of sending them Uni takes at least 3 weeks to do (4 courses a week, 12 courses required). You can get a jump on careers multiple ways (A in high school, Fame perk, club perk, and, wishing well, and a reward trait) and many of them can be done pre YA. So if I have an A student in high school, and just work the stated job with planning I can be at least to level 6 in a career by the end of time it takes to graduate from Uni. So unless it lets you start at rank 7 or higher going to Uni does nothing not going and picking a career wouldn't do for your sim. If it starts you any lower than the 6th level going is actually holding your sim back. So other than role playing what is the point?? Someone please explain it to me. Make me see the point in even having a sim go to Uni.
The only tow thing this has going for it is roommates and robots. Neither have all that much to do with Universities. This pack should have been called Discover Rabbit Holes. I was increasingly unhappy with the pack, but after the livestream, I am wanting this less than most stuff packs. I am getting it for the robots. I don't see the point of sending a sim to Uni. I just don't. Besides I hate Rabbit holes. This is the first livestream that actually made me want the pack less. Given my desire for this pack is at an all time low, that is saying something. Is it just me or did they run out of thing to show us in two hours? That is not a good sign.[/quote]
That told me that is exactly how much gameplay is in the game about two hours...LOL
I am trying to justify to myself on why I should get it even at 50% off but I am definitely waiting for the sale. I am going to watch some of the gamechangers to see if there is more going on mainly because I am having a hard time believing there is so little in this expansion. This feels even less than the island expansion to me and that is just crazy. Did they get the memo that we want more gameplay and less rabbit holes?
Stoves are FORBIDDEN in dorms. For the first time in the history of the Sims (4?) an object has been explicitly FORBIDDEN on a lot.
I have trouble putting into words the stupidity and arrogance of this decision.
In their absence of explanation for this, I think the stove mechanic needed tweaking with respect to roommates not bursting into flames often etc, and instead of programming it to work they just FORBADE them? They FORBADE an utterly mundane and basic function of the Sims series? Cooking on a stove?? It might be equally dumb to be this aggregated by their decision, but here I am. WOW.
If you want to tell a story of a dorm without communal means of making food, of course do it, it honestly seems like a fun thing! But why explicitly restrict us to this?
What about those of us that want to tell the story of our everyday lives, where making a meal and having dinner together with our roommates is a basic way of socialising? Making dinner on a Sunday and having leftovers until it runs out? Baking a cake to cheer everyone up? C o o k i n g o n a s t o v e ?
This might be a small thing, but principally I feel like this goes against one of the foundations of The Sims 4 which they have used time and time again to excuse their actions. The argument *paraphrase* "we want you to tell whatever story you want, so we limit restrictions and direction in your gameplay" *paraphrase* has now been faulted in the weirdest, most unnecessary way possible.
I'd like to end this with a direct quote from the livestream when they specifically talked about dorm specifications: "We've put the least amount of restrictions on this so you can go on and play". Are you s e r i o u s ?
Stoves are FORBIDDEN in dorms. For the first time in the history of the Sims (4?) an object has been explicitly FORBIDDEN on a lot.
I have trouble putting into words the stupidity and arrogance of this decision.
In their absence of explanation for this, I think the stove mechanic needed tweaking with respect to roommates not bursting into flames often etc, and instead of programming it to work they just FORBADE them? They FORBADE an utterly mundane and basic function of the Sims series? Cooking on a stove?? It might be equally dumb to be this aggregated by their decision, but here I am. WOW.
If you want to tell a story of a dorm without communal means of making food, of course do it, it honestly seems like a fun thing! But why explicitly restrict us to this?
What about those of us that want to tell the story of our everyday lives, where making a meal and having dinner together with our roommates is a basic way of socialising? Making dinner on a Sunday and having leftovers until it runs out? Baking a cake to cheer everyone up? C o o k i n g o n a s t o v e ?
This might be a small thing, but principally I feel like this goes against one of the foundations of The Sims 4 which they have used time and time again to excuse their actions. The argument *paraphrase* "we want you to tell whatever story you want, so we limit restrictions and direction in your gameplay" *paraphrase* has now been faulted in the weirdest, most unnecessary way possible.
I'd like to end this with a direct quote from the livestream when they specifically talked about dorm specifications: "We've put the least amount of restrictions on this so you can go on and play". Are you s e r i o u s ?
Yeah, I don't understand why we could not have a communal kitchen area in the dorm. I find it ridiculous as well.
You can add a communal cafeteria area to any dorm (according to the gurus). I know that's not the same as having a communal kitchen, but at least you can have food on the dorm lot beyond microwave meals and ramen, (even special meals on holidays). That ability is rather like the Sims 2 dorms, where there was a cafeteria worker as long as you had a Shiny Tyme Cooktop in the dorm (and you didn't necessarily have to have a fridge). That particular stove (on a University lot) did not work like a stove on a non-dormitory lot (because your sim couldn't use the oven if I remember correctly). So I think they are kind of adhering to TS2 practice here -- although I agree it would have been better if they had just made communal kitchens possible. After all, not every dorm has a cafeteria. Dorm arrangements vary widely.
You can add a communal cafeteria area to any dorm (according to the gurus). I know that's not the same as having a communal kitchen, but at least you can have food on the dorm lot beyond microwave meals and ramen, (even special meals on holidays). That ability is rather like the Sims 2 dorms, where there was a cafeteria worker as long as you had a Shiny Tyme Cooktop in the dorm (and you didn't necessarily have to have a fridge). That particular stove (on a University lot) did not work like a stove on a non-dormitory lot (because your sim couldn't use the oven if I remember correctly). So I think they are kind of adhering to TS2 practice here -- although I agree it would have been better if they had just made communal kitchens possible. After all, not every dorm has a cafeteria. Dorm arrangements vary widely.
The Servo seems limited, or rather I have questions that I don't think got addressed. So the servo (Did you know that servo is Australian slang for a service station) is playable, can they go to university? Be a celebrity? Learn the robotics skill? Could a servo build a robot to repair itself to become self-sufficient? Will umbrellas protect servos from damage when it rains?
Servos can attend universitiy and they can learn skills.
They can‘t repair themselves.
Becoming a celebrity, using an umbrella... I don‘t know.
I'm curious to see what traits a Servo can have, but I fear they didn't show us that because they are just re-named versions of base game traits.
The problem isn't really "laziness", imo. It's the lack of creative thinking, the general tendency to "direct the player" and mold the packs into what the devs would like to do if they were playing the game. Everything should be open for the player to decide.
Is it just my imagination, or did that bike animation look a little wonky? I give them credit for trying to do so, but the bike wheels look too static.
What is so special about soccer? A new animation? What makes it different than playing basketball? Raising the fitness skill in other ways?
Juice keg -- what's so different about it than the bubble blower? They both influence emotions, right? Both are group activities?
What makes University different from living in San Myshuno and visiting a library with friends in similar career paths to do activities and job requirements?
I don't want degrees to help my Sims do better in careers. They can already do so quite fine, even without the traits that would work well for them.
Could you imagine what this pack would look like if they gave the player an opportunity for sandbox gameplay?
For example, what if the player could design a Uni route for a Sim? Say your Sim is a toy builder/seller. This would technically require you to use the "register as self employed" option, in which you could make up your own career.
So you could send your Sim to Uni, and from a template, mold your own "major". Choose skills to focus on, say, charisma and robotics. Select the course difficulty with a slider, make up different courses. Sort of like how you can choose activities for holidays/clubs. Choose how much this will help your Sim, or how much it will hurt them.
Curses system in ROM? What about a stress-system in DU? Your Sim could develop insomnia, break out into acne, develop a ramen noodle addiction, heck, even a phone addiction would be just fine.
The problem is that they're pushing basegame content into EPs. EPs should offer enough new stuff for its price to not even need basegame content included. Additionally, they're shying away from sandbox gameplay more and more [at least compared to earlier EPs, imo.]
The only basegame item they should have included was a stove.
Stoves are FORBIDDEN in dorms. For the first time in the history of the Sims (4?) an object has been explicitly FORBIDDEN on a lot.
I have trouble putting into words the stupidity and arrogance of this decision.
In their absence of explanation for this, I think the stove mechanic needed tweaking with respect to roommates not bursting into flames often etc, and instead of programming it to work they just FORBADE them? They FORBADE an utterly mundane and basic function of the Sims series? Cooking on a stove?? It might be equally dumb to be this aggregated by their decision, but here I am. WOW.
If you want to tell a story of a dorm without communal means of making food, of course do it, it honestly seems like a fun thing! But why explicitly restrict us to this?
What about those of us that want to tell the story of our everyday lives, where making a meal and having dinner together with our roommates is a basic way of socialising? Making dinner on a Sunday and having leftovers until it runs out? Baking a cake to cheer everyone up? C o o k i n g o n a s t o v e ?
This might be a small thing, but principally I feel like this goes against one of the foundations of The Sims 4 which they have used time and time again to excuse their actions. The argument *paraphrase* "we want you to tell whatever story you want, so we limit restrictions and direction in your gameplay" *paraphrase* has now been faulted in the weirdest, most unnecessary way possible.
I'd like to end this with a direct quote from the livestream when they specifically talked about dorm specifications: "We've put the least amount of restrictions on this so you can go on and play". Are you s e r i o u s ?
Stoves are FORBIDDEN in dorms. For the first time in the history of the Sims (4?) an object has been explicitly FORBIDDEN on a lot.
I have trouble putting into words the stupidity and arrogance of this decision.
In their absence of explanation for this, I think the stove mechanic needed tweaking with respect to roommates not bursting into flames often etc, and instead of programming it to work they just FORBADE them? They FORBADE an utterly mundane and basic function of the Sims series? Cooking on a stove?? It might be equally dumb to be this aggregated by their decision, but here I am. WOW.
If you want to tell a story of a dorm without communal means of making food, of course do it, it honestly seems like a fun thing! But why explicitly restrict us to this?
What about those of us that want to tell the story of our everyday lives, where making a meal and having dinner together with our roommates is a basic way of socialising? Making dinner on a Sunday and having leftovers until it runs out? Baking a cake to cheer everyone up? C o o k i n g o n a s t o v e ?
This might be a small thing, but principally I feel like this goes against one of the foundations of The Sims 4 which they have used time and time again to excuse their actions. The argument *paraphrase* "we want you to tell whatever story you want, so we limit restrictions and direction in your gameplay" *paraphrase* has now been faulted in the weirdest, most unnecessary way possible.
I'd like to end this with a direct quote from the livestream when they specifically talked about dorm specifications: "We've put the least amount of restrictions on this so you can go on and play". Are you s e r i o u s ?
It would have been nice if they included these "innovative ways to cook in the dorm" and maybe people would not have been as upset. They could have added a hot plate, Blender\juice maker\smoothie maker, the instant pot, a slow cooker etc. Instead of just saying you can't have anything but a mini fridge and microwave, give us some options. I would have been happy if they even took the time to add a soda machine or a snack machine.
Boy was that livestream boring. 2 hours and yet barely anything to do with actual learning. Not surprising considering that classes are just rabbit holes... The class assignments look super basic too and it doesn't seem much different from kid's and teens schooling.
Kids can't ride bikes. Disappointed, but not surprised. You can't edit university dorms when people are already living there because of sToRyTeLlIng? Because it's unrealistic to paint your dorm walls in real life? Was that chick serious? It's a dang video game, and one where the player should CHOOSE what they want their storytelling to be and if they want to paint the wall colors or not. That's just irritating.
They played with robots, had a keg party (whatever the heck that is), juggled a soccer ball, chilled around, but focused nearly no time on school. I've said it before and I'll say again, this doesn't feel like a school pack. It looks like a socialization pack with the bare minimum of school aspects slapped on.
They kept saying, “You can tell that story”, but not everyone has a story to tell. I just want to play and see where things lead. I don’t want to have to force everything or imagine what isn’t there. There’s no AI to this game and 1 aspiration doesn’t help.
Boy was that livestream boring. 2 hours and yet barely anything to do with actual learning. Not surprising considering that classes are just rabbit holes... The class assignments look super basic too and it doesn't seem much different from kid's and teens schooling.
Kids can't ride bikes. Disappointed, but not surprised. You can't edit university dorms when people are already living there because of sToRyTeLlIng? Because it's unrealistic to paint your dorm walls in real life? Was that chick serious? It's a dang video game, and one where the player should CHOOSE what they want their storytelling to be and if they want to paint the wall colors or not. That's just irritating.
They played with robots, had a keg party (whatever the heck that is), juggled a soccer ball, chilled around, but focused nearly no time on school. I've said it before and I'll say again, this doesn't feel like a school pack. It looks like a socialization pack with the bare minimum of school aspects slapped on.
Or that is gloried excuse to "we were too lazy to do this...deal with it."
Boy was that livestream boring. 2 hours and yet barely anything to do with actual learning. Not surprising considering that classes are just rabbit holes... The class assignments look super basic too and it doesn't seem much different from kid's and teens schooling.
Kids can't ride bikes. Disappointed, but not surprised. You can't edit university dorms when people are already living there because of sToRyTeLlIng? Because it's unrealistic to paint your dorm walls in real life? Was that chick serious? It's a dang video game, and one where the player should CHOOSE what they want their storytelling to be and if they want to paint the wall colors or not. That's just irritating.
They played with robots, had a keg party (whatever the heck that is), juggled a soccer ball, chilled around, but focused nearly no time on school. I've said it before and I'll say again, this doesn't feel like a school pack. It looks like a socialization pack with the bare minimum of school aspects slapped on.
Because when people think of university they are thinking of how TV shows and Movies show them. I mean tell me one movie or TV show which actually show you a university class? Can you name one bet you can't
Boy was that livestream boring. 2 hours and yet barely anything to do with actual learning. Not surprising considering that classes are just rabbit holes... The class assignments look super basic too and it doesn't seem much different from kid's and teens schooling.
Kids can't ride bikes. Disappointed, but not surprised. You can't edit university dorms when people are already living there because of sToRyTeLlIng? Because it's unrealistic to paint your dorm walls in real life? Was that chick serious? It's a dang video game, and one where the player should CHOOSE what they want their storytelling to be and if they want to paint the wall colors or not. That's just irritating.
They played with robots, had a keg party (whatever the heck that is), juggled a soccer ball, chilled around, but focused nearly no time on school. I've said it before and I'll say again, this doesn't feel like a school pack. It looks like a socialization pack with the bare minimum of school aspects slapped on.
Because when people think of university they are thinking of how TV shows and Movies show them. I mean tell me one movie or TV show which actually show you a university class? Can you name one bet you can't
I'm sorry.......what?
We want it to be like real life university with interactive classes and all...least I would like that...I don't understand what your trying to get at.
Boy was that livestream boring. 2 hours and yet barely anything to do with actual learning. Not surprising considering that classes are just rabbit holes... The class assignments look super basic too and it doesn't seem much different from kid's and teens schooling.
Kids can't ride bikes. Disappointed, but not surprised. You can't edit university dorms when people are already living there because of sToRyTeLlIng? Because it's unrealistic to paint your dorm walls in real life? Was that chick serious? It's a dang video game, and one where the player should CHOOSE what they want their storytelling to be and if they want to paint the wall colors or not. That's just irritating.
They played with robots, had a keg party (whatever the heck that is), juggled a soccer ball, chilled around, but focused nearly no time on school. I've said it before and I'll say again, this doesn't feel like a school pack. It looks like a socialization pack with the bare minimum of school aspects slapped on.
Because when people think of university they are thinking of how TV shows and Movies show them. I mean tell me one movie or TV show which actually show you a university class? Can you name one bet you can't
Does high school count? I don’t see how it’s different.
“Bueller? Bueller?”
“In 1930, the Republican-controlled House of Representatives, in an effort to alleviate the effects of the... Anyone? Anyone?... the Great Depression, passed the... Anyone? Anyone? The tariff bill? The Hawley-Smoot Tariff Act? Which, anyone? Raised or lowered?... raised tariffs, in an effort to collect more revenue for the federal government. Did it work? Anyone? Anyone know the effects? It did not work, and the United States sank deeper into the Great Depression.”
Because when people think of university they are thinking of how TV shows and Movies show them. I mean tell me one movie or TV show which actually show you a university class? Can you name one bet you can't
Have you... never watched a TV show or movie that takes place at a university?
Comments
Can we please bury this game? Please...pretty please...
I’m already thinking of ways around it and still not sure I will even buy it half off.
With that said, I did skip around the livestream after it finished (and thankfully I waited, what a bore!), and... meh. I was really looking forward to a solid roommate and dorm system the most and it just doesn't seem very fun to work/play with. Aside from that, the pack is called university. Why is a good 85-90% of the university designed as rabbitholes in a closed world game?
This just feels like a half-baked dorm pack repurposed from systems already in the game. With all of the bulk of the university experience being rabbitholes and off-screen, they really could have fleshed out dorms to be awesome, and they just look boring.
The pack is already $31 on some sites, and will be half off in the coming weeks, without a doubt. I don't recommend anyone pay full price for this. Even half off, I think I'm skipping this pack.
Bring on The Sims 5, please.
- no stoves, or cooking facilities of any kind other than a microwave allowed in dorms. Seriously, What. The. Plum.?!
- both unis having the same degrees on offer - I know IRL multiple unis offer the same degrees, but when you've got only 2 to choose from this feels lazy.
- No lip piercings (or upper ear of that matter) - what's the point in only giving us eyebrow and nose piercings? (also, at least where I'm from it's illegal for a piercing studio to pierce the inside 1/3 of the eyebrow because it could sever nerves that control the muscles in the forehead, therefore I've never seen anyone with it, which is probably why I think it looks plum).
For me, I feel like this pack will be another Strangerville, I only bought that pack for the laptops and military career and I'll probably only get DU for robots and being able to stop randos from using my sims computer.
On the topic of robots though, I'm not really sure how to feel about them- the cleaning bot is just another roomba from Cats and Dogs, the gardening bot is just Patchy from Seasons with less interactions and no set time limit, the party bot is interesting but it's a caterer crossed with the Lin-Z speaker and as for the Servo...
The Servo seems limited, or rather I have questions that I don't think got addressed. So the servo (Did you know that servo is Australian slang for a service station) is playable, can they go to university? Be a celebrity? Learn the robotics skill? Could a servo build a robot to repair itself to become self-sufficient? Will umbrellas protect servos from damage when it rains?
I love occults, anything that adds some sort of challenge or new needs we have to manage is great but I'm worried the bots are going to be another IL mermaid situation, really cool looking but seriously lacking depth gameplay wise.
Then again, I stopped watching the stream an hour or so in.
The only tow thing this has going for it is roommates and robots. Neither have all that much to do with Universities. This pack should have been called Discover Rabbit Holes. I was increasingly unhappy with the pack, but after the livestream, I am wanting this less than most stuff packs. I am getting it for the robots. I don't see the point of sending a sim to Uni. I just don't. Besides I hate Rabbit holes. This is the first livestream that actually made me want the pack less. Given my desire for this pack is at an all time low, that is saying something. Is it just me or did they run out of thing to show us in two hours? That is not a good sign.
I know it was awkward when there was still about like an hour left? And they stood there like "Ummmmmmm what can talk about or show off?" and proceed to just sit there and do nothing...focused on the campus .... like...what?!?? There are MANY things you could talk about or address.
There you are!!!!
Stoves are FORBIDDEN in dorms. For the first time in the history of the Sims (4?) an object has been explicitly FORBIDDEN on a lot.
I have trouble putting into words the stupidity and arrogance of this decision.
In their absence of explanation for this, I think the stove mechanic needed tweaking with respect to roommates not bursting into flames often etc, and instead of programming it to work they just FORBADE them? They FORBADE an utterly mundane and basic function of the Sims series? Cooking on a stove?? It might be equally dumb to be this aggregated by their decision, but here I am. WOW.
If you want to tell a story of a dorm without communal means of making food, of course do it, it honestly seems like a fun thing! But why explicitly restrict us to this?
What about those of us that want to tell the story of our everyday lives, where making a meal and having dinner together with our roommates is a basic way of socialising? Making dinner on a Sunday and having leftovers until it runs out? Baking a cake to cheer everyone up? C o o k i n g o n a s t o v e ?
This might be a small thing, but principally I feel like this goes against one of the foundations of The Sims 4 which they have used time and time again to excuse their actions. The argument *paraphrase* "we want you to tell whatever story you want, so we limit restrictions and direction in your gameplay" *paraphrase* has now been faulted in the weirdest, most unnecessary way possible.
I'd like to end this with a direct quote from the livestream when they specifically talked about dorm specifications: "We've put the least amount of restrictions on this so you can go on and play". Are you s e r i o u s ?
Yeah, I don't understand why we could not have a communal kitchen area in the dorm. I find it ridiculous as well.
HA!! I was just wondering that.
Servos can attend universitiy and they can learn skills.
They can‘t repair themselves.
Becoming a celebrity, using an umbrella... I don‘t know.
I'm curious to see what traits a Servo can have, but I fear they didn't show us that because they are just re-named versions of base game traits.
The problem isn't really "laziness", imo. It's the lack of creative thinking, the general tendency to "direct the player" and mold the packs into what the devs would like to do if they were playing the game. Everything should be open for the player to decide.
Is it just my imagination, or did that bike animation look a little wonky? I give them credit for trying to do so, but the bike wheels look too static.
What is so special about soccer? A new animation? What makes it different than playing basketball? Raising the fitness skill in other ways?
Juice keg -- what's so different about it than the bubble blower? They both influence emotions, right? Both are group activities?
What makes University different from living in San Myshuno and visiting a library with friends in similar career paths to do activities and job requirements?
I don't want degrees to help my Sims do better in careers. They can already do so quite fine, even without the traits that would work well for them.
Could you imagine what this pack would look like if they gave the player an opportunity for sandbox gameplay?
For example, what if the player could design a Uni route for a Sim? Say your Sim is a toy builder/seller. This would technically require you to use the "register as self employed" option, in which you could make up your own career.
So you could send your Sim to Uni, and from a template, mold your own "major". Choose skills to focus on, say, charisma and robotics. Select the course difficulty with a slider, make up different courses. Sort of like how you can choose activities for holidays/clubs. Choose how much this will help your Sim, or how much it will hurt them.
Curses system in ROM? What about a stress-system in DU? Your Sim could develop insomnia, break out into acne, develop a ramen noodle addiction, heck, even a phone addiction would be just fine.
The problem is that they're pushing basegame content into EPs. EPs should offer enough new stuff for its price to not even need basegame content included. Additionally, they're shying away from sandbox gameplay more and more [at least compared to earlier EPs, imo.]
The only basegame item they should have included was a stove.
https://www.thedailymeal.com/entertain/13-innovative-ways-cook-dorm-room
"Games Are Not The Place To Tell Stories, Games Are Meant To Let People Tell Their Own Stories"...Will Wright.
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In REALITY, I simply exist.....
It would have been nice if they included these "innovative ways to cook in the dorm" and maybe people would not have been as upset. They could have added a hot plate, Blender\juice maker\smoothie maker, the instant pot, a slow cooker etc. Instead of just saying you can't have anything but a mini fridge and microwave, give us some options. I would have been happy if they even took the time to add a soda machine or a snack machine.
Kids can't ride bikes. Disappointed, but not surprised. You can't edit university dorms when people are already living there because of sToRyTeLlIng? Because it's unrealistic to paint your dorm walls in real life? Was that chick serious? It's a dang video game, and one where the player should CHOOSE what they want their storytelling to be and if they want to paint the wall colors or not. That's just irritating.
They played with robots, had a keg party (whatever the heck that is), juggled a soccer ball, chilled around, but focused nearly no time on school. I've said it before and I'll say again, this doesn't feel like a school pack. It looks like a socialization pack with the bare minimum of school aspects slapped on.
Or that is gloried excuse to "we were too lazy to do this...deal with it."
Because when people think of university they are thinking of how TV shows and Movies show them. I mean tell me one movie or TV show which actually show you a university class? Can you name one bet you can't
I'm sorry.......what?
We want it to be like real life university with interactive classes and all...least I would like that...I don't understand what your trying to get at.
“Bueller? Bueller?”
“In 1930, the Republican-controlled House of Representatives, in an effort to alleviate the effects of the... Anyone? Anyone?... the Great Depression, passed the... Anyone? Anyone? The tariff bill? The Hawley-Smoot Tariff Act? Which, anyone? Raised or lowered?... raised tariffs, in an effort to collect more revenue for the federal government. Did it work? Anyone? Anyone know the effects? It did not work, and the United States sank deeper into the Great Depression.”
Have you... never watched a TV show or movie that takes place at a university?