I've Come to a Conclusion

netguysteve

I honestly think that TheSims 4 was originally intended to be a series reboot similar to the SimCity reboot last year. After the commercial and PR failure of that reboot, they wanted to distance themselves from it, so they stripped out the online features and changed marketing strategies to market it as a sequel.

This may explain the thinking behind the removal of some previous staples in the series and why you get the sense of taking a step back or to the side rather than a step forward.

I dunno. This just feels more like a rebooted product than a true successor.

StoreAccount

You nailed the part about it originally going to be an online game!

Cinebar

netguysteve wrote:

I honestly think that TheSims 4 was originally intended to be a series reboot similar to the SimCity reboot last year. After the commercial and PR failure of that reboot, they wanted to distance themselves from it, so they stripped out the online features and changed marketing strategies to market it as a sequel.

This may explain the thinking behind the removal of some previous staples in the series and why you get the sense of taking a step back or to the side rather than a step forward.

I dunno. This just feels more like a rebooted product than a true successor.

Well, O.K. then they should rename it The Sims Reboot, then. Sims who can't swim anywhere in a base game seems so hilarious to me. I mean really. Think of it this way. Smarter Sims...too ignorant to know how to swim. The Smarter Sims...too ignorant to raise a toddler. Smarter Sims...too ignorant to serve food to the table...etc. etc.

IcySlash

Cinebar wrote:

netguysteve wrote:

I honestly think that TheSims 4 was originally intended to be a series reboot similar to the SimCity reboot last year. After the commercial and PR failure of that reboot, they wanted to distance themselves from it, so they stripped out the online features and changed marketing strategies to market it as a sequel.

This may explain the thinking behind the removal of some previous staples in the series and why you get the sense of taking a step back or to the side rather than a step forward.

I dunno. This just feels more like a rebooted product than a true successor.

Well, O.K. then they should rename it The Sims Reboot, then. Sims who can't swim anywhere in a base game seems so hilarious to me. I mean really. Think of it this way. Smarter Sims...too ignorant to know how to swim. The Smarter Sims...too ignorant to raise a toddler. Smarter Sims...too ignorant to serve food to the table...etc. etc.

Who needs these things anyway? we have EMOTIONS!

Moonbarker

Exactly this.

JULES1111

Cinebar wrote:

netguysteve wrote:

I honestly think that TheSims 4 was originally intended to be a series reboot similar to the SimCity reboot last year. After the commercial and PR failure of that reboot, they wanted to distance themselves from it, so they stripped out the online features and changed marketing strategies to market it as a sequel.

This may explain the thinking behind the removal of some previous staples in the series and why you get the sense of taking a step back or to the side rather than a step forward.

I dunno. This just feels more like a rebooted product than a true successor.

Well, O.K. then they should rename it The Sims Reboot, then. Sims who can't swim anywhere in a base game seems so hilarious to me. I mean really. Think of it this way. Smarter Sims...too ignorant to know how to swim. The Smarter Sims...too ignorant to raise a toddler. Smarter Sims...too ignorant to serve food to the table...etc. etc.

LOLZ They don't really seem all that smart do they? OP...everyone already knows this is a ******** online game, and yes this is where all the problems are stemming from. That in no way shape or form makes it ok.It actually makes it worse. :? Like trying to serve someone expired beef..but your like well hey! I cooked it! :?

Ladybug889

Cinebar wrote:

netguysteve wrote:

I honestly think that TheSims 4 was originally intended to be a series reboot similar to the SimCity reboot last year. After the commercial and PR failure of that reboot, they wanted to distance themselves from it, so they stripped out the online features and changed marketing strategies to market it as a sequel.

This may explain the thinking behind the removal of some previous staples in the series and why you get the sense of taking a step back or to the side rather than a step forward.

I dunno. This just feels more like a rebooted product than a true successor.

Well, O.K. then they should rename it The Sims Reboot, then. Sims who can't swim anywhere in a base game seems so hilarious to me. I mean really. Think of it this way. Smarter Sims...too ignorant to know how to swim. The Smarter Sims...too ignorant to raise a toddler. Smarter Sims...too ignorant to serve food to the table...etc. etc.

they can't serve food to the table?

StoreAccount

angelamelvin1986 wrote:

Cinebar wrote:

Smarter Sims...too ignorant to serve food to the table...etc. etc.

they can't serve food to the table?

This hasn't been confirmed yet, I'm not sure why Cine keeps stating it as fact? Do you know something we don't, Cine?

netguysteve

Cinebar wrote:

Well, O.K. then they should rename it The Sims Reboot, then. Sims who can't swim anywhere in a base game seems so hilarious to me. I mean really. Think of it this way. Smarter Sims...too ignorant to know how to swim. The Smarter Sims...too ignorant to raise a toddler. Smarter Sims...too ignorant to serve food to the table...etc. etc.

That's the point, I think they originally intended to just name it "TheSims" and market it as a reboot to the series. They renamed it after the failed SimCity reboot.

StoreAccount

It's original name was The Sims 4 Olmypus, so I don't think it was meant as a re-boot, hence the "4". :-)

EvvieSimmer

netguysteve wrote:

I honestly think that TheSims 4 was originally intended to be a series reboot similar to the SimCity reboot last year. After the commercial and PR failure of that reboot, they wanted to distance themselves from it, so they stripped out the online features and changed marketing strategies to market it as a sequel.

This may explain the thinking behind the removal of some previous staples in the series and why you get the sense of taking a step back or to the side rather than a step forward.

I dunno. This just feels more like a rebooted product than a true successor.

I hadn't thought of this, but now that you mention it it really does feel like that. It would explain a lot if true!

ebuchala

My TS3 sims never served food at the table--they always put it on a counter and then called everyone to eat and then everyone ate separately.

They did say they can have dinner parties and the staged videos show them all sitting around a table eating and talking, so I'm hoping the dinner parties include that. They specifically said they can eat, watch tv, and talk with someone at the same time and that they can talk to someone who's sitting down, so I assume two sims can sit and talk while eating. Which is already a step up from TS3.

pguida

netguysteve wrote:

I honestly think that TheSims 4 was originally intended to be a series reboot similar to the SimCity reboot last year. After the commercial and PR failure of that reboot, they wanted to distance themselves from it, so they stripped out the online features and changed marketing strategies to market it as a sequel.

This may explain the thinking behind the removal of some previous staples in the series and why you get the sense of taking a step back or to the side rather than a step forward.

I dunno. This just feels more like a rebooted product than a true successor.

Yes!

LovenVincent

angelamelvin1986 wrote:

Cinebar wrote:

netguysteve wrote:

I honestly think that TheSims 4 was originally intended to be a series reboot similar to the SimCity reboot last year. After the commercial and PR failure of that reboot, they wanted to distance themselves from it, so they stripped out the online features and changed marketing strategies to market it as a sequel.

This may explain the thinking behind the removal of some previous staples in the series and why you get the sense of taking a step back or to the side rather than a step forward.

I dunno. This just feels more like a rebooted product than a true successor.

Well, O.K. then they should rename it The Sims Reboot, then. Sims who can't swim anywhere in a base game seems so hilarious to me. I mean really. Think of it this way. Smarter Sims...too ignorant to know how to swim. The Smarter Sims...too ignorant to raise a toddler. Smarter Sims...too ignorant to serve food to the table...etc. etc.

they can't serve food to the table?

Keep this in mind my dear- they could serve food in the sims 2. the sims 4 is that of a reconstruction of the sims 2. they also made known of multitasking with food. unless someone shows proof, there is always a high chance that it is possible.

06Bon06

ebuchala wrote:

My TS3 sims never served food at the table--they always put it on a counter and then called everyone to eat and then everyone ate separately.

They did say they can have dinner parties and the staged videos show them all sitting around a table eating and talking, so I'm hoping the dinner parties include that. They specifically said they can eat, watch tv, and talk with someone at the same time and that they can talk to someone who's sitting down, so I assume two sims can sit and talk while eating. Which is already a step up from TS3.

Sims can already eat and talk with Sims 3 :roll:

alan650111

06Bon06 wrote:

ebuchala wrote:

My TS3 sims never served food at the table--they always put it on a counter and then called everyone to eat and then everyone ate separately.

They did say they can have dinner parties and the staged videos show them all sitting around a table eating and talking, so I'm hoping the dinner parties include that. They specifically said they can eat, watch tv, and talk with someone at the same time and that they can talk to someone who's sitting down, so I assume two sims can sit and talk while eating. Which is already a step up from TS3.

Sims can already eat and talk with Sims 3 :roll:

They can do this to a point and it is very bland. I had to download a mod for Sims 3 just so they would sit at the table together longer and they still don't really talk all that much to each other. The Sims 3 sims are bland and robotic.

bekkasan

Sims can and do sit at the table and talk while eating. You do realize you have to actually make them do something though. If you have them on high autonomy they will do what they want, not what you want. My sim kids and mom and dad sit at the table after dinner and talk for as long as I push the buttons.

ebuchala

06Bon06 wrote:

ebuchala wrote:

My TS3 sims never served food at the table--they always put it on a counter and then called everyone to eat and then everyone ate separately.

They did say they can have dinner parties and the staged videos show them all sitting around a table eating and talking, so I'm hoping the dinner parties include that. They specifically said they can eat, watch tv, and talk with someone at the same time and that they can talk to someone who's sitting down, so I assume two sims can sit and talk while eating. Which is already a step up from TS3.

Sims can already eat and talk with Sims 3 :roll:

My sims only talked and ate at the same time by chance, not by design. :roll: You can't serve food at the table :roll: and if I want to speak to one directly that's sitting at a table, they will stand up and then both sims will awkwardly positions themselves in front of one another before talking. :roll: They don't eat and watch tv at the same time.

netguysteve

ebuchala wrote:

They don't eat and watch tv at the same time.

Eat and watch TV? They can't even cuddle and watch TV at the same time. Yeah, they can sit there and cuddle while the TV is on, but if they actually start watching it, they will slide away from each other.

06Bon06

bekkasan wrote:

Sims can and do sit at the table and talk while eating. You do realize you have to actually make them do something though. If you have them on high autonomy they will do what they want, not what you want. My sim kids and mom and dad sit at the table after dinner and talk for as long as I push the buttons.

Thank you! Mine will even finish their dinner and continue to sit and talk while the other is still eating, sometimes they finish their meals and just sit there talking until I make them do something. They do this on their own and it is awesome

gravyflood

Cinebar wrote:

Well, O.K. then they should rename it The Sims Reboot, then.

You're bad at naming things.

netguysteve

StoreAccount wrote:

It's original name was The Sims 4 Olmypus, so I don't think it was meant as a re-boot, hence the "4". :-)

Considering that the initial announcement of TS4 was right in the middle of the very large public outrage over the SimCity reboot, I am not so sure that the "4" wasn't tacked on at that time to distance themselves. "We're not like them! This isn't a reboot! See! We call it The Sims 4!!"