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How I think EA could allow players to have religion without adding religion:
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Count me in.
And if EA does not add this in one of the EP's, maybe a modder could come up with a way to add clubs.
That would be really cool.
On a similar note. I always wondered why going to a gym was free. This should be a club that a sim pays to join.
Just a thought.
I like this idea! I never thought of that. My sim could basically live at the gym if I let him. They should at least have closing and opening times.
I mean, really? LOL.
People are losing their ability to cope with the fact that some people just believe different than them.
I think it'd be cool to have my Simmies go to mass like I do.
It would also add a whole deeper level to the uniqueness of the Sims themselves.
Bye everyone!
However, it will never really equate to anything religious. They'd never be able to add bibles, qurans, kippahs, crosses, or whatever other religion oriented objects/accessories are prevalent in today's society. They also wouldn't be able to incorporate praying, baptisms, or anything like that. Nor, would religious buildings be allowed like a mosque. All of that stuff would 'cause controversy and they could never cover EVERY religion.
Unless, as someone already suggested... you download CC, but if you're going to do that... there are already mods that exist to incorporate religion into the game. Rendering this, in my opinion... as a whole, unnecessary.
I have no problem with this, per se, I would just rather they didn't waste time adding something like this to game... when they could spend time working on some other aspect that could work in it's entirety.
That's just my 2 cents though, I'm not for this idea.
You are free to break the chains of fate that bind you. Simmer since est. 2002.
If the OP wants to suggest a club idea - which is what this thread basically is, right? - without a load of religious arguments prattling on in the background, surely it would have been better to make a more accurate title (despite the risk of the thread not getting the same amount of activity that religious threads invariably end up getting).
Yeah, this is what a suggested a few pages back. I don't think there would be nearly as many fights about it if it wasn't in the title, or the OP at all.
WHY DOES EVERYONE KEEP COMING AND RANTNG ON ABOUT HOW RELIGION WONT WORK WHEN THE POST IS ABOUT CLUBS! LET CLUBS BE AND NOT RELIGION! THIS ISNT ABOUT RELIGION!
Except it is about religion, read the title. The OP was trying to find a way to incorporate religion, I simply stated it wouldn't work because it wouldn't be doing what he'd like it to do anyway.. without it reaching on controversial grounds. I wasn't ranting at all, I was simply stating this idea is illogical for the purpose obviously intended. He/She is trying to include other purposes of the mechanism suggested in order to play off religion as being ONE of the choices a person could do. All I'm saying is, if said person wanted to make a "Catholic" club/group/whatever, they wouldn't be able to have mass, communion, anything associating with the actual religion. Therefore it renders this whole topic useless. If you want groups, sure, request that... but to say this is an equivalent solution to adding religion "without actually adding it" is ridiculous.
As far as group goes, I have no interest in bowling clubs, nor do I have interest in social hierarchy. So I pass regardless. Plus a lot of suggestions would also require additional gameplay, such as teenage babysitting clubs, etc..
You are free to break the chains of fate that bind you. Simmer since est. 2002.
I would love the ability to have a single parents club, where they get together with their children and have play dates and possible meeting of a new partner.
also not to sound mean, if this topic is useless to you, why comment on it?
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read the op. This is not adding religion, unless you make it add religion. It is adding clubs that you can customize and make into whatever you want. Religion is what the op used for a example, because he/she wants religion and creatively found a great way for it.
If you don't like religion it can be used to make a cooking club or a singles club or something
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This...theres a bunch of things I don't like in the game but I don't go complaining on threads I see about it. If you don't want it, respectively disagree and move on. Saying things like "no way I hate that idea they will never put it in game idc if its real religion or made up it will never happen how annoying" is just rude.
In short, that. If you have a club that's religiously based, but have no religious items then it doesn't help you get religion in the game. I know this is about clubs, not religion, I just think time would be better off spent on something else.
You can't call the thread 'How I think EA could add religion without adding religion' and not expect people to start arguing about religion, since that seems to be the intentions.You could have just as easily typed 'Club ideas'
I don't think EA could fit every religion, or even most religions into a single EP: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_religions_and_spiritual_traditions I'm fairly certain there' certain religions that, if included would offend someone, but if excluded would offend a whole lot of people.
P.S. Clubs from Generations/UL groups don't have religious origins...other than a tad bit of stereotyping, it doesn't actively offend anyone and cause wars... (This person is coming right out and saying that this would be used for religion.)
It's funny how we think differently. I've never played Gothic but the religion in the Elder Scrolls is one of my favorite parts of the games. It gives the world so much more depth and realism. But I personally don't want religion in the Sims because I like building my own world, and in my own world there is no religion.
Anyway.....OP, I really do like your idea. It reminds me of the guild system in World of Warcraft (pretty much one of the only other computer games I've ever played.) I don't think I'd ever use it but it would be cool to have.
I haven't read the rest of the thread, don't have all of the EPs, nor have I played The Sims 3 in quite some time, but in the Sims 4 I'd like to see the return of the group system from TS4. With it you could invite multiple sims to your house or another lot, without having to manually call each of them. It's kind of like having a club, except you could only have so many members and you can't add any other features like the ones you suggested. I'd just like to throw that idea out there for the people who don't like the idea of having clubs.
"Not to sound mean", but this is extremely ignorant thinking. So you want religion even if it means no religious items/gameplay included? You're essentially asking for the ability to create a group, label it as a religious group, and set up a hierarchy.. get them to group together.. then have them do nothing.
That makes no sense. You might as well go into CAS name your sim Priest ____ and send him to read a book and pretend it's the bible using your imagination. The idea you are all suggesting would not be providing any more religion than what I formerly posted. And almost all of these other group suggestions are insinuating we'll have all these luxuries that we don't even know of i.e. play dates, teenage babysitting. One does not simply have the power to add gameplay/interactions to a game in a pop-up menu just because they think of "good" idea for a group/club.
But, I digress.. if we do end up getting something like this, I'll simply make no use of it. If it does happen, I'D love to see how you all take great advantage of it. Also, I personally find it useless, doesn't mean I can't state my opinions on why I feel that way. I'm done discussing this, have a nice day everyone.
You are free to break the chains of fate that bind you. Simmer since est. 2002.
Exactly TS4 has so much potential to be everything we never got in TS3, like babysitting or babies that actually have more interactions or pretty much anything and everything else. You can have a group gathering at a location (If you wanted to use CC, you could download a church or whatever your religion calls for), have everyone dress in their formal wear, and get them to sit down and listen to a Sim dressed in whatever outfit your religion calls for rant at the podium that UL has or use CC or a book (Like you mentioned)....
Many simmers want the ability to have religion in their games because of realism. Religion is a big part of my real life, so when I am playing sims I would enjoy the ability to create a religion. Now, as for religion being offensive, there are plenty of things in the sims that people could construe as offensive. Why not allow simmers to add more realism to their game with religion and if they didn't want it they wouldn't have to use it. With so many people on the forums calling for teen woohoo, teen pregnancy, drinking etc... im surprised the idea of religion is so offensive.
(The club system wouldn't even create religion in the game, it would simply allow simmers like me to create one.)
what are you even talking about? This made no sense to me. I was trying to explain what the earlier thoughts of the group were.
Also if you wouldn't use the club feature then why comment on it and complain about it.
Im luthern but really only go to church once a month and on holidays,to me church is more of a place for people to go and bond that have similar values and ideas. I would like to see something similar in game where my sims can go as a group, and share their values and beliefs with eachother. My pastor wears only a suit and my church dosnt look like a church except for the stain glass windows and a cross on the inside. So I all I would need would be something similar. No cross but some symbol that is made up would work.
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It isn't religion though. It's a club idea that could be used to create religions. Just like Create a Plumbot isn't adding Bender to the game, it's simply offering up an option to make him.