I love to see the genetics at play in this game. Although fairly limited, in that whole features are inherited rather than blended features, lovely blends are still possible. In my current save I started with Spike (blonde) and Jason (black hair). Although I end up with clones from time to time, I have been lucky in this save and both their kids share features from both dads. They were both born with Spike's blonde hair which I felt was unrealistic so I changed it. Although I don't change the looks of kids born in my saves, I feel changing hair colour is not cheating since the game often assigns arbitrary hair colours in any case (that horrid green/brown is the worst!).
Their first born, Knox:
Their daughter, Briar:
I would love to see how the genetics in other peoples' saves play out. Please feel free to share pics of your sim parents and kids
@Mikezumi - i feel like i'm following you around I saw the titled and as i am a genetics lover too had to read. I agree i too love the genetics and have found some interesting features creep up since i have been playing. I think this will be one i share to from time to time
Oh my goodness @Mikezumi Beitris & Duff are gorgeous...those eyes!!! I also love that you have a sim called Fife, it pleases my Scottish heart!.
I'm back playing my game, I took a break to catch up on my reading! I decided to go with Rowan from my kids that Stiles McGraw and Blair Wainwright had.
Here are the kids Dylan & Florance. ( I can't describe how much I love this interaction.)
I didn't grab too many picture of them as kids but Dylan has just aged up and he's rather handsome. And he's talking to his great grand-father Boyd.
Florance aged up a while back. Apologies for the poor quality. It was during Dylan's birthday party.
I haven't checked what she'll look like, there is still hope lol.
Darlene McGraw ( formally Bunch) I think she the only one from the Bunch family along with Ethan who doesn't age up to have a Voldemort nose.
And crappy pictures of Rowan, cause why not!.
EDIT: I'll have more time tomorrow so I will try to post better pictures of them all!
@Achoo89 Thank you I am using a Scottish naming theme in this save
The peek-a-boo interaction is probably one of the cutest in the game
Dylan does look good!
Darlene doesn't look bad at all!
Congrats to Rowan on being chosen as heir
I even imagine how different dog breeds or horse breeds would turn out if you cross breed them, so of course I love to see how the babies of my favorite couples turn out. <3 ...except recently, where I've been trying desperately to have a baby with the dad's skin color, but it's always born looking exactly like the mom, and I have tried 12 times now I don't know why this is happening... :(
@Sorokaste Because like in real life, sometimes one parent's genes are stronger than the other. Though that doesn't mean a child can't come out looking like a parent with the weaker genes. Just a much lower probability, if a probability at all.
For example in my Rumbaa family, only one child out of 14 in total came out with the mother's skin complexion.
I suppose even with skin tones, a dominant color could be recessive and a recessive color could be dominant. Though, some of my Sims kids have a combination of both parents skin tones. Genetics are complex like that. While some say TS3 genetics are wrong and/or doesn't make any sense, I think it makes sense to me. It's about biology/genetics.
And speaking of, I forgot when you install The Sims 2 there is a mini-game to play and one of the tidbits of information mentions that is is possible for a blue-eyed and a brown-eyed parent to have a green-eyed child because of a recessive trait. So that confirms that TS2 also had recessive traits Sims could inherit.
“What doesn't kill you makes you stronger
Stand a little taller
Doesn't mean I'm lonely when I'm alone
What doesn't kill you makes a fighter
Footsteps even lighter”
> @Deshong04 said: > @Sorokaste Because like in real life, sometimes one parent's genes are stronger than the other. Though that doesn't mean a child can't come out looking like a parent with the weaker genes. Just a much lower probability, if a probability at all. > > For example in my Rumbaa family, only one child out of 14 in total came out with the mother's skin complexion. > > > I suppose even with skin tones, a dominant color could be recessive and a recessive color could be dominant. Though, some of my Sims kids have a combination of both parents skin tones. Genetics are complex like that. While some say TS3 genetics are wrong and/or doesn't make any sense, I think it makes sense to me. It's about biology/genetics. > > And speaking of, I forgot when you install The Sims 2 there is a mini-game to play and one of the tidbits of information mentions that is is possible for a blue-eyed and a brown-eyed parent to have a green-eyed child because of a recessive trait. So that confirms that TS2 also had recessive traits Sims could inherit.
I'm playing TS3. :) But I thought I read somewhere that because of the almost infinite colors of skin, eyes, and hair, no color is more dominant than the other? :o My standing theory to why the kid keeps looking like the mom is that it was the mom who initiated the "Try for baby" option, and that the kid has a higher probability to look like her. Don't know if that's true though... I'm currently in the experiment stage of this theory. I shall return with results.
@Sorokaste Sorry you are having no luck with having a child with the father's skin colour. I've never tried to get a specific skin colour for my sim kids as I am only concerned with their facial sliders.
Good luck with your experiment
I'm loving my current household that I started with premade Twinbrook townie Jenni Jones-Brown. For those who don't know, she starts the game pregnant with Goodwin Goode's baby. Here's pictures of Jenni and Goodwin for reference
Apparently I have taken a grand total of 2 pictures of Goodwin, and this is the only one that shows his face.
They had a baby boy named Dirk (who's the toddler Jenni is holding in her picture). He grew up very handsome I think. He's my heir.
Goodwin had other plans about being with Jenni though, so she eventually (and by eventually I mean before Dirk was even born) married Dudely Racket, pictured here.
And as you can see by the toddler he's holding, they had a little boy as well, named Dustin.
I apparently don't have any pictures of him as an adult that show his face, but he looks almost the same as he did when he was a teen.
After Dudely passed on, Jenni attended one of Goodwin's parties. One thing led to another and now they have a teenage son named Drew.
At this point in game both Dirk and Dustin have 3 daughters each, I'll have to go find Dustin's daughters to get pictures of them though.
@Goulsquash Thanks for sharing pics of your family I see Drew got Goodwin's eyes! I believe I saw Goodwin's eyes in my game recently. I placed a tweaked version of Goodwin when I populated my town and the sim I saw would have been his great-great granddaughter.
@Goulsquash This is my tweaked Goodwin and a look at him gender-switched. I always do a gender switch so that I can see if children of the opposite gender stand a chance.
@Mikezumi your Goodwin is very handsome! My sims could probably benefit from your tweaking, one of the female Racket cousins inherited some very masculine features, but I can tell its her from a mile away!
@Goulsquash Thanks The only Racket I kept was Shark but even he got a lot of tweaking before he was fit for my game
Here's Shark in my game
Sinbad Rotter also got the treatment but I actually preferred him as female and placed a female version of him in my game.
Sinbad as female. I added makeup after I took this pic.
> @Deshong04 said:
> @Sorokaste Because like in real life, sometimes one parent's genes are stronger than the other. Though that doesn't mean a child can't come out looking like a parent with the weaker genes. Just a much lower probability, if a probability at all.
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> For example in my Rumbaa family, only one child out of 14 in total came out with the mother's skin complexion.
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> I suppose even with skin tones, a dominant color could be recessive and a recessive color could be dominant. Though, some of my Sims kids have a combination of both parents skin tones. Genetics are complex like that. While some say TS3 genetics are wrong and/or doesn't make any sense, I think it makes sense to me. It's about biology/genetics.
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> And speaking of, I forgot when you install The Sims 2 there is a mini-game to play and one of the tidbits of information mentions that is is possible for a blue-eyed and a brown-eyed parent to have a green-eyed child because of a recessive trait. So that confirms that TS2 also had recessive traits Sims could inherit.
I'm playing TS3. But I thought I read somewhere that because of the almost infinite colors of skin, eyes, and hair, no color is more dominant than the other? My standing theory to why the kid keeps looking like the mom is that it was the mom who initiated the "Try for baby" option, and that the kid has a higher probability to look like her. Don't know if that's true though... I'm currently in the experiment stage of this theory.
I shall return with results.
I know you are playing TS3, that is why you are posting in TS3 section of the forum. The point of mentioning TS2 is to bring forth information that the previous game, the one that introduced aging/generations/genetics did have dominant and recessive traits related to real life genetics/biology. Therefore, TS3 follows that same formula. "For eye color, hair color, and skin tone, each parent has two genes. When a baby's genetics are determined, each parent gives a randomly determined gene for eye color, hair color, and skin tone." -http://sims.wikia.com/wiki/Genetics
Being random makes sense to imitate each spermatozoon and ovum having different genetic information based on each parent's genes. And yes, under TS3 it says something about the game not having dominant/recessive traits and being more simplified which I don't believe. Because I trust my eyes, what I'm observing in-game and what I know and learned about genetics. Of all the things TS3 did exclude from TS2, genetics wasn't one of them.
Also, it doesn't matter about the color wheel since an algorithm could still detect which color would be more dominant than the other based on color intensity, etc. What TS3 lacks is an actual hair dye feature. Because "dyeing" a Sim's hair will change their DNA and means any children born thereafter has the chance of inheriting the unnatural hair color. Which is why I make sure to keep track of my Sim's true hair color if I'm going to dye it and manually change the kid's hair color if they inherit it.
“What doesn't kill you makes you stronger
Stand a little taller
Doesn't mean I'm lonely when I'm alone
What doesn't kill you makes a fighter
Footsteps even lighter”
So I didn't create this Sim - his dads, Dane and Donovan, did (with the help of a mod), which is pretty new territory for me. Just aged up to teen last night, and wowza!
The dads, doing things that lead to having kids like this:
Allan's back from Military School and he's now a Young Adult.
...and Dad and Mom have got a potential lined up for him. Fumiko...uh...that is...if they get along. The Wakayamas have asked the Chikamori family to foster her until she can get her feet under her in Riverview. Y'know...financial independence versus arranged marriage. Hmmm. Wonder how that will go over.
Hmmm, wonder what genetics will wring out for Generation 3?
Always "River McIrish" ...and maybe some Bebe Hart. ~innocent expression~
I love this thread! Some of your genetics and sims are stunning. It does intrigue me how sims turn out
As for the pets comment above someone mentioned, i did the 50 foal challenge and that in it self was very interesting. I look forward to trying cats and dogs one day too
I finally managed to dig up my first family (my sim self and hubby sim self :P ) I was doing a 50 foal challenge at the time so my children were happening a lot, as i love genetics we ended up having 3 sets of twins and 3 sets of triplets (thank god it's sims and not real life )
My Mystique family
Children L-R: Row1- Nikki, Ethan, Brooke, Nathaniel, Jasmin
L-R: Row2 - Keeanu, Eloise, Lucas, Jonathan, Evan
L-R: Row3 - Robbie, Harmony, Nicholas, Stephan, Nikolai
I do have images where i have names on them but i couldn't find it, as the game did crash on me after i completed this challenge i lost a lot of the data, thankfully some sims i was able to save. I will have to re do this one day with names, it surprises me how i remember them all
Freeman Family - Daughter Brooke's family from Mystique clan
Husband Brandon Freeman - Brooke Freeman
L-R: Children - Aria, Ava, Nathan, Alexandra
Roberts Family (Aria is My SS's Grand daughter)
Husband Garth Roberts - Aria Roberts (Mother My SS Granddaughter)
L-R Children: Tori, Marilyn
Carr tribe - (Eloise is one of my SS daughters)
Father: Fabian Carr - Mother Eloise Carr
L-R Children: Shania, Wilson
Evan was the one who continued the challenge for me so his family got extended also
Evan married Jesse Wilkinson
L-R Children: Morgan, Elvis, Amber, Jaala, Jada
Amber his daughter married Paul Whelan
L-R Children: (first batch was quads and all girls) - Opal, Venus, Genevieve, Cosette, Caspian, Oliver, Joshua, Boris
I just couldn't die in my 50 foal challenge which was a relief so i got married a 3rd time
Wolfgang tribe
3rd husband - Brad Wolfgang
L-R Children: Autumn, Mitchell, Dannii, Kahlan, Richard
@bebasim Wow you tortured your simself with all those kids! LOL
They're a good looking bunch of kids
The grandkids turned out great too!
One husband and all those kids wasn't enough for you! LOL You had to go back for more husbands and more kids! What a hoot!
Thanks for sharing your family - they are lovely!
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She rolled Hopeless Romantic on aging up and I let her keep it since her boyfriend also has that trait
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@Mikezumi - i feel like i'm following you around
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I'm back playing my game, I took a break to catch up on my reading! I decided to go with Rowan from my kids that Stiles McGraw and Blair Wainwright had.
Here are the kids Dylan & Florance. ( I can't describe how much I love this interaction.)
I didn't grab too many picture of them as kids but Dylan has just aged up and he's rather handsome. And he's talking to his great grand-father Boyd.
Florance aged up a while back. Apologies for the poor quality. It was during Dylan's birthday party.
I haven't checked what she'll look like, there is still hope lol.
Darlene McGraw ( formally Bunch) I think she the only one from the Bunch family along with Ethan who doesn't age up to have a Voldemort nose.
And crappy pictures of Rowan, cause why not!.
EDIT: I'll have more time tomorrow so I will try to post better pictures of them all!
The peek-a-boo interaction is probably one of the cutest in the game
Dylan does look good!
Darlene doesn't look bad at all!
Congrats to Rowan on being chosen as heir
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...except recently, where I've been trying desperately to have a baby with the dad's skin color, but it's always born looking exactly like the mom, and I have tried 12 times now I don't know why this is happening... :(
For example in my Rumbaa family, only one child out of 14 in total came out with the mother's skin complexion.
I suppose even with skin tones, a dominant color could be recessive and a recessive color could be dominant. Though, some of my Sims kids have a combination of both parents skin tones. Genetics are complex like that. While some say TS3 genetics are wrong and/or doesn't make any sense, I think it makes sense to me. It's about biology/genetics.
And speaking of, I forgot when you install The Sims 2 there is a mini-game to play and one of the tidbits of information mentions that is is possible for a blue-eyed and a brown-eyed parent to have a green-eyed child because of a recessive trait. So that confirms that TS2 also had recessive traits Sims could inherit.
Stand a little taller
Doesn't mean I'm lonely when I'm alone
What doesn't kill you makes a fighter
Footsteps even lighter”
> @Sorokaste Because like in real life, sometimes one parent's genes are stronger than the other. Though that doesn't mean a child can't come out looking like a parent with the weaker genes. Just a much lower probability, if a probability at all.
>
> For example in my Rumbaa family, only one child out of 14 in total came out with the mother's skin complexion.
>
>
> I suppose even with skin tones, a dominant color could be recessive and a recessive color could be dominant. Though, some of my Sims kids have a combination of both parents skin tones. Genetics are complex like that. While some say TS3 genetics are wrong and/or doesn't make any sense, I think it makes sense to me. It's about biology/genetics.
>
> And speaking of, I forgot when you install The Sims 2 there is a mini-game to play and one of the tidbits of information mentions that is is possible for a blue-eyed and a brown-eyed parent to have a green-eyed child because of a recessive trait. So that confirms that TS2 also had recessive traits Sims could inherit.
I'm playing TS3. :) But I thought I read somewhere that because of the almost infinite colors of skin, eyes, and hair, no color is more dominant than the other? :o My standing theory to why the kid keeps looking like the mom is that it was the mom who initiated the "Try for baby" option, and that the kid has a higher probability to look like her. Don't know if that's true though... I'm currently in the experiment stage of this theory.
I shall return with results.
@Sorokaste Sorry you are having no luck with having a child with the father's skin colour. I've never tried to get a specific skin colour for my sim kids as I am only concerned with their facial sliders.
Good luck with your experiment
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Apparently I have taken a grand total of 2 pictures of Goodwin, and this is the only one that shows his face.
They had a baby boy named Dirk (who's the toddler Jenni is holding in her picture). He grew up very handsome I think. He's my heir.
Goodwin had other plans about being with Jenni though, so she eventually (and by eventually I mean before Dirk was even born) married Dudely Racket, pictured here.
And as you can see by the toddler he's holding, they had a little boy as well, named Dustin.
I apparently don't have any pictures of him as an adult that show his face, but he looks almost the same as he did when he was a teen.
After Dudely passed on, Jenni attended one of Goodwin's parties. One thing led to another and now they have a teenage son named Drew.
At this point in game both Dirk and Dustin have 3 daughters each, I'll have to go find Dustin's daughters to get pictures of them though.
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Here's Shark in my game
Sinbad Rotter also got the treatment but I actually preferred him as female and placed a female version of him in my game.
Sinbad as female. I added makeup after I took this pic.
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I know you are playing TS3, that is why you are posting in TS3 section of the forum. The point of mentioning TS2 is to bring forth information that the previous game, the one that introduced aging/generations/genetics did have dominant and recessive traits related to real life genetics/biology. Therefore, TS3 follows that same formula. "For eye color, hair color, and skin tone, each parent has two genes. When a baby's genetics are determined, each parent gives a randomly determined gene for eye color, hair color, and skin tone." -http://sims.wikia.com/wiki/Genetics
Being random makes sense to imitate each spermatozoon and ovum having different genetic information based on each parent's genes. And yes, under TS3 it says something about the game not having dominant/recessive traits and being more simplified which I don't believe. Because I trust my eyes, what I'm observing in-game and what I know and learned about genetics. Of all the things TS3 did exclude from TS2, genetics wasn't one of them.
Also, it doesn't matter about the color wheel since an algorithm could still detect which color would be more dominant than the other based on color intensity, etc. What TS3 lacks is an actual hair dye feature. Because "dyeing" a Sim's hair will change their DNA and means any children born thereafter has the chance of inheriting the unnatural hair color. Which is why I make sure to keep track of my Sim's true hair color if I'm going to dye it and manually change the kid's hair color if they inherit it.
Stand a little taller
Doesn't mean I'm lonely when I'm alone
What doesn't kill you makes a fighter
Footsteps even lighter”
The dads, doing things that lead to having kids like this:
Ean as a toddler, and as a child:
Ean now:
I think he's a keeper.
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...and Dad and Mom have got a potential lined up for him. Fumiko...uh...that is...if they get along. The Wakayamas have asked the Chikamori family to foster her until she can get her feet under her in Riverview.
Hmmm, wonder what genetics will wring out for Generation 3?
Always "River McIrish" ...and maybe some Bebe Hart. ~innocent expression~
Zumi and the Winchester Brothers
The Watcher's Caretaker - A Limited ISBI
As for the pets comment above someone mentioned, i did the 50 foal challenge and that in it self was very interesting. I look forward to trying cats and dogs one day too
I finally managed to dig up my first family (my sim self and hubby sim self :P ) I was doing a 50 foal challenge at the time so my children were happening a lot, as i love genetics we ended up having 3 sets of twins and 3 sets of triplets (thank god it's sims and not real life
My Mystique family
Children L-R: Row1- Nikki, Ethan, Brooke, Nathaniel, Jasmin
L-R: Row2 - Keeanu, Eloise, Lucas, Jonathan, Evan
L-R: Row3 - Robbie, Harmony, Nicholas, Stephan, Nikolai
I do have images where i have names on them but i couldn't find it, as the game did crash on me after i completed this challenge i lost a lot of the data, thankfully some sims i was able to save. I will have to re do this one day with names, it surprises me how i remember them all
Freeman Family - Daughter Brooke's family from Mystique clan
Husband Brandon Freeman - Brooke Freeman
L-R: Children - Aria, Ava, Nathan, Alexandra
Roberts Family (Aria is My SS's Grand daughter)
Husband Garth Roberts - Aria Roberts (Mother My SS Granddaughter)
L-R Children: Tori, Marilyn
Carr tribe - (Eloise is one of my SS daughters)
Father: Fabian Carr - Mother Eloise Carr
L-R Children: Shania, Wilson
Evan was the one who continued the challenge for me so his family got extended also
Evan married Jesse Wilkinson
L-R Children: Morgan, Elvis, Amber, Jaala, Jada
Amber his daughter married Paul Whelan
L-R Children: (first batch was quads and all girls) - Opal, Venus, Genevieve, Cosette, Caspian, Oliver, Joshua, Boris
I just couldn't die in my 50 foal challenge which was a relief so i got married a 3rd time
Wolfgang tribe
3rd husband - Brad Wolfgang
L-R Children: Autumn, Mitchell, Dannii, Kahlan, Richard
They're a good looking bunch of kids
The grandkids turned out great too!
One husband and all those kids wasn't enough for you! LOL You had to go back for more husbands and more kids! What a hoot!
Thanks for sharing your family - they are lovely!
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