Have you ever played a base sims game before! They all have nothing amazing to do at the start!
I don't know -- decorating with CASt was pretty amazing IMO.
Edit: And I'm so tired of, "The other games were lackluster at the start IMO so it's just fine that this game is as well despite it costing as much as other games being released that are far more complete." I'm comparing the Sims 4 and its price tag with other current games, not games that came out a few years ago.
Have you ever played a base sims game before! They all have nothing amazing to do at the start!
Yeah I have. TS2 and TS3. I didn't expect the base to be the game of all games. I just expected the game to evolve and not regress. Every game in the series has improved on the features of the previous series in some way and this game has took us back a few years in many ways.
Personally, the game doesn't do anything for me. It doesn't cater to my playing style and it not even pleasing to my eyes, so TS4 is just not for me. Maybe for some of you, but not for me.
And @Jarsie9 You make a valid point. I actually agree with you.
> @MrSimmis said: > Have you ever played a base sims game before! They all have nothing amazing to do at the start!
You keep saying this but that wasn't true for my style of play when I got TS2 when it first came out.
I played just the base, without having the internet, without knowing anything about needing patches, no clue that there were forums, mods, hacks or cc. - Just a clueless person enjoying the game.
By the time I got internet, Uni, NL, OFB, FFS, GL and Pets had come out and I went and bought them all on the same day that I had the internet hooked up. And let me tell you...not once did I feel that I was bored! Not once did I feel like the game was lacking or wasn't amazing!
And, before I got the UC, there'd be times that I'd uninstall all the EPs and SPs and just play with the base game all on it's own because that base game is that good!
So, I beg to differ with you about "All base games have nothing amazing to do at the start!" coz...that's not actually true for everyone.
I put my simself in a house. Got bored. I put two sims I remade from TS3 in a house. Still bored. I gave one a career. Bored. I let them chat and mingle at the community lots. Bored!
My question is do the sims have anything else to do other than sit in the house, go to the 5 or so community lots, and disappear into invisible rabbit holes for a career? I was lead to believe that they were more to careers with the promo pics, but I guess they were staged?
Even the emotions are all over the place and a lot like moodlets to me. I actually think the emotions are kind of confusing.
And no I'm not trying to be funny or rude. I'm being deadly serious, because I really see nothing new or different. How is TS4 an improvement or any different from what we have right now?
P.S. No I haven't tried babies yet. That's next on the list. I don't think it'll make much of a difference tho since they're objects.
Have you thrown a social event? You can do that with the phone. There are a variety of options. Have you tried to get your sim to fall in love and start a family? The children stage is very cute and entertaining. There are also 14 different skill objects such as the piano, woodworking bench, and the computer has a TON of stuff to do as there is both a video gaming and programming skill. I find that this game is not lacking any activities. I barely have scratched the surface of stuff and I have already put hundreds of hours into the game.
This. The handiness skill also has a BUNCH of options. I haven't even discovered them all yet. There are plenty of plants to collect, you can even make some by grafting them into other plants. You can now catch a variety of bugs too.
Have you collected everything from space yet? How about the things not from space (rocks, minerals, statues, etc)? Have you had a sim woohoo in the rocket? Had a culinary sim cook every meal + gourmet meals too? And learn all the cupcake recipes? You could have a mixologist learn all the drinks. Read to children? Had your sim upgrade to and watch the fireplace channel? Learn all the campfire songs (if you have OR)? Have you found the voodoo doll and bound it to a sim yet?
Your children can learn the typing skill on the computer, and if you max it, it helps their writing skill later on (I believe). Have a child start writing books and earning royalties before they are adults!
There are PLENTY of things to do in this game, we just gave you a whole list. I too haven't scratched the surface yet.
I don't know, but once you've done that, have you then beaten TS4?
The feeling I get by posts like this is that people go into the Sims with the wrong mindset. There's certainly that completionist edge to the game, but is it the game? I wonder...
Well, if you finish every single thing the game has to offer, then yeah, I guess you have. But this is a game with a whole lot of flexibility and playability. I play the same things over and over in different ways for different sims. How can I possibly have the wrong mindset? This is a game where you can play however you want. My play style may not match yours but that doesn't mean I'm playing the game wrong.
What about when you finish everything in 1 2 & 3? Did you beat those too?
> @MrSimmis said:
> Have you ever played a base sims game before! They all have nothing amazing to do at the start!
You keep saying this but that wasn't true for my style of play when I got TS2 when it first came out.
I played just the base, without having the internet, without knowing anything about needing patches, no clue that there were forums, mods, hacks or cc. - Just a clueless person enjoying the game.
By the time I got internet, Uni, NL, OFB, FFS, GL and Pets had come out and I went and bought them all on the same day that I had the internet hooked up.
And let me tell you...not once did I feel that I was bored! Not once did I feel like the game was lacking or wasn't amazing!
And, before I got the UC, there'd be times that I'd uninstall all the EPs and SPs and just play with the base game all on it's own because that base game is that good!
So, I beg to differ with you about "All base games have nothing amazing to do at the start!" coz...that's not actually true for everyone.
Yeah I don't remember getting bored with TS2 or TS3 either. lol
Have you ever played a base sims game before! They all have nothing amazing to do at the start!
Yes, thank you, I have. I started playing base games on release fifteen years ago. I ordered near on everything for my entire fifteen years as a customer including sims4. I played every single base game and was more than happy too-I moved on because I wanted to embrace the next generation. And as I bought on release date I was playing at least six months before an expansion without getting bored-in fact I've always been addicted to the sims. Until now. So I'd say that says more about the game than me-especially as I went back to sims2 and enjoyed a ten year old game over the new version
I put my simself in a house. Got bored. I put two sims I remade from TS3 in a house. Still bored. I gave one a career. Bored. I let them chat and mingle at the community lots. Bored!
My question is do the sims have anything else to do other than sit in the house, go to the 5 or so community lots, and disappear into invisible rabbit holes for a career? I was lead to believe that they were more to careers with the promo pics, but I guess they were staged?
Even the emotions are all over the place and a lot like moodlets to me. I actually think the emotions are kind of confusing.
And no I'm not trying to be funny or rude. I'm being deadly serious, because I really see nothing new or different. How is TS4 an improvement or any different from what we have right now?
P.S. No I haven't tried babies yet. That's next on the list. I don't think it'll make much of a difference tho since they're objects.
Have you thrown a social event? You can do that with the phone. There are a variety of options. Have you tried to get your sim to fall in love and start a family? The children stage is very cute and entertaining. There are also 14 different skill objects such as the piano, woodworking bench, and the computer has a TON of stuff to do as there is both a video gaming and programming skill. I find that this game is not lacking any activities. I barely have scratched the surface of stuff and I have already put hundreds of hours into the game.
This. The handiness skill also has a BUNCH of options. I haven't even discovered them all yet. There are plenty of plants to collect, you can even make some by grafting them into other plants. You can now catch a variety of bugs too.
Have you collected everything from space yet? How about the things not from space (rocks, minerals, statues, etc)? Have you had a sim woohoo in the rocket? Had a culinary sim cook every meal + gourmet meals too? And learn all the cupcake recipes? You could have a mixologist learn all the drinks. Read to children? Had your sim upgrade to and watch the fireplace channel? Learn all the campfire songs (if you have OR)? Have you found the voodoo doll and bound it to a sim yet?
Your children can learn the typing skill on the computer, and if you max it, it helps their writing skill later on (I believe). Have a child start writing books and earning royalties before they are adults!
There are PLENTY of things to do in this game, we just gave you a whole list. I too haven't scratched the surface yet.
I don't know, but once you've done that, have you then beaten TS4?
The feeling I get by posts like this is that people go into the Sims with the wrong mindset. There's certainly that completionist edge to the game, but is it the game? I wonder...
Well, if you finish every single thing the game has to offer, then yeah, I guess you have. But this is a game with a whole lot of flexibility and playability. I play the same things over and over in different ways for different sims. How can I possibly have the wrong mindset? This is a game where you can play however you want. My play style may not match yours but that doesn't mean I'm playing the game wrong.
What about when you finish everything in 1 2 & 3? Did you beat those too?
I put my simself in a house. Got bored. I put two sims I remade from TS3 in a house. Still bored. I gave one a career. Bored. I let them chat and mingle at the community lots. Bored!
My question is do the sims have anything else to do other than sit in the house, go to the 5 or so community lots, and disappear into invisible rabbit holes for a career? I was lead to believe that they were more to careers with the promo pics, but I guess they were staged?
Even the emotions are all over the place and a lot like moodlets to me. I actually think the emotions are kind of confusing.
And no I'm not trying to be funny or rude. I'm being deadly serious, because I really see nothing new or different. How is TS4 an improvement or any different from what we have right now?
P.S. No I haven't tried babies yet. That's next on the list. I don't think it'll make much of a difference tho since they're objects.
Have you thrown a social event? You can do that with the phone. There are a variety of options. Have you tried to get your sim to fall in love and start a family? The children stage is very cute and entertaining. There are also 14 different skill objects such as the piano, woodworking bench, and the computer has a TON of stuff to do as there is both a video gaming and programming skill. I find that this game is not lacking any activities. I barely have scratched the surface of stuff and I have already put hundreds of hours into the game.
This. The handiness skill also has a BUNCH of options. I haven't even discovered them all yet. There are plenty of plants to collect, you can even make some by grafting them into other plants. You can now catch a variety of bugs too.
Have you collected everything from space yet? How about the things not from space (rocks, minerals, statues, etc)? Have you had a sim woohoo in the rocket? Had a culinary sim cook every meal + gourmet meals too? And learn all the cupcake recipes? You could have a mixologist learn all the drinks. Read to children? Had your sim upgrade to and watch the fireplace channel? Learn all the campfire songs (if you have OR)? Have you found the voodoo doll and bound it to a sim yet?
Your children can learn the typing skill on the computer, and if you max it, it helps their writing skill later on (I believe). Have a child start writing books and earning royalties before they are adults!
There are PLENTY of things to do in this game, we just gave you a whole list. I too haven't scratched the surface yet.
I don't know, but once you've done that, have you then beaten TS4?
The feeling I get by posts like this is that people go into the Sims with the wrong mindset. There's certainly that completionist edge to the game, but is it the game? I wonder...
Well, if you finish every single thing the game has to offer, then yeah, I guess you have. But this is a game with a whole lot of flexibility and playability. I play the same things over and over in different ways for different sims. How can I possibly have the wrong mindset? This is a game where you can play however you want. My play style may not match yours but that doesn't mean I'm playing the game wrong.
What about when you finish everything in 1 2 & 3? Did you beat those too?
> @MrSimmis said:
> Have you ever played a base sims game before! They all have nothing amazing to do at the start!
You keep saying this but that wasn't true for my style of play when I got TS2 when it first came out.
I played just the base, without having the internet, without knowing anything about needing patches, no clue that there were forums, mods, hacks or cc. - Just a clueless person enjoying the game.
By the time I got internet, Uni, NL, OFB, FFS, GL and Pets had come out and I went and bought them all on the same day that I had the internet hooked up.
And let me tell you...not once did I feel that I was bored! Not once did I feel like the game was lacking or wasn't amazing!
And, before I got the UC, there'd be times that I'd uninstall all the EPs and SPs and just play with the base game all on it's own because that base game is that good!
So, I beg to differ with you about "All base games have nothing amazing to do at the start!" coz...that's not actually true for everyone.
This sounds like me in some ways.
I had no clue about patches, forums, CC, MODs or anything else throughout the original Sims up to about halfway through Sims 2 and
I had a blast with both base games.
Throughout the Sims 2 I would frequently think to myself," wouldn't it be great to have no loading screens and have all the Sims in the world age with mine?" Obviously I was unbelievably excited when I learned of Sims 3 and that it had what I always thought would make the Sims 2 perfect.
I again had a blast with the base game for many months.
The Sims 4 I'm sorry to say for me is a total disappointment. I tried it for 3 weeks and couldn't find an appealing thing about it.
I uninstalled it back in mid November and I have no intentions of putting any more money into this game.
> @Crazycatldy said: > sgjo wrote: » > > > > > This sounds like me in some ways. > I had no clue about patches, forums, CC, MODs or anything else throughout the original Sims up to about halfway through Sims 2 and > I had a blast with both base games. > Throughout the Sims 2 I would frequently think to myself," wouldn't it be great to have no loading screens and have all the Sims in the world age with mine?" Obviously I was unbelievably excited when I learned of Sims 3 and that it had what I always thought would make the Sims 2 perfect. > I again had a blast with the base game for many months. > The Sims 4 I'm sorry to say for me is a total disappointment. I tried it for 3 weeks and couldn't find an appealing thing about it. > I uninstalled it back in mid November and I have no intentions of putting any more money into this game.
I never could get into TS3 altho it had a lot of things that I wish could have been give to TS2 in an EP or SP (had a friend who let me try it out after she first got it) But I did start buying it a few months ago...not played much of it, yet. She loved it and everything about it and we were both happy that each of us had a sims game that we loved.
Saw her 2 Sundays ago and she had bought TS4 and the GP for it and she and her husband both love it. I'm happy for them to have another Sims game that they can enjoy together. It doesn't bother me in the least that they bought and enjoy the game. What does bother me is that, it is so far removed from a sandbox game that I wasn't even tempted to ask for a trial run.
I love my infants and toddlers so much that I turn aging off for a very long time at each life stage. I love when family and friends come over to their house and take the infant to the sink to bathe it or to the frig to feed it or head straight for the toddler to play with it's toys with him/her or peek-a-boo or whatever.
I do like goal oriented game play, sometimes...but not in my sims game when it's being forced on me. I want to play my sims game the way I choose to play it...that's what a sandbox game is suppose to be about.
I'm just so disappointed that they chose to drain so much of the sand out of the box that even my cat would turn it's nose up at it.
But I'm very happy that there are folks who do enjoy the game and I probably will eventually get it somewhere down the long, long road. But for now I'll just continue to enjoy my first love, the UC - all these years playing it and I still haven't played a lot of the things in it. lol
I put my simself in a house. Got bored. I put two sims I remade from TS3 in a house. Still bored. I gave one a career. Bored. I let them chat and mingle at the community lots. Bored!
My question is do the sims have anything else to do other than sit in the house, go to the 5 or so community lots, and disappear into invisible rabbit holes for a career? I was lead to believe that they were more to careers with the promo pics, but I guess they were staged?
Even the emotions are all over the place and a lot like moodlets to me. I actually think the emotions are kind of confusing.
And no I'm not trying to be funny or rude. I'm being deadly serious, because I really see nothing new or different. How is TS4 an improvement or any different from what we have right now?
P.S. No I haven't tried babies yet. That's next on the list. I don't think it'll make much of a difference tho since they're objects.
Have you thrown a social event? You can do that with the phone. There are a variety of options. Have you tried to get your sim to fall in love and start a family? The children stage is very cute and entertaining. There are also 14 different skill objects such as the piano, woodworking bench, and the computer has a TON of stuff to do as there is both a video gaming and programming skill. I find that this game is not lacking any activities. I barely have scratched the surface of stuff and I have already put hundreds of hours into the game.
This. The handiness skill also has a BUNCH of options. I haven't even discovered them all yet. There are plenty of plants to collect, you can even make some by grafting them into other plants. You can now catch a variety of bugs too.
Have you collected everything from space yet? How about the things not from space (rocks, minerals, statues, etc)? Have you had a sim woohoo in the rocket? Had a culinary sim cook every meal + gourmet meals too? And learn all the cupcake recipes? You could have a mixologist learn all the drinks. Read to children? Had your sim upgrade to and watch the fireplace channel? Learn all the campfire songs (if you have OR)? Have you found the voodoo doll and bound it to a sim yet?
Your children can learn the typing skill on the computer, and if you max it, it helps their writing skill later on (I believe). Have a child start writing books and earning royalties before they are adults!
There are PLENTY of things to do in this game, we just gave you a whole list. I too haven't scratched the surface yet.
I don't know, but once you've done that, have you then beaten TS4?
The feeling I get by posts like this is that people go into the Sims with the wrong mindset. There's certainly that completionist edge to the game, but is it the game? I wonder...
Well, if you finish every single thing the game has to offer, then yeah, I guess you have. But this is a game with a whole lot of flexibility and playability. I play the same things over and over in different ways for different sims. How can I possibly have the wrong mindset? This is a game where you can play however you want. My play style may not match yours but that doesn't mean I'm playing the game wrong.
What about when you finish everything in 1 2 & 3? Did you beat those too?
Have you ever played a base sims game before! They all have nothing amazing to do at the start!
That is not true. Sims 1 and Sims 2 base game where amazing. Sims 3 was far less amazing and Sims 4 leaves me cold. More of the same but so much less then 1 or 2.
Be grateful you found this out now than spending almost $80 on this empty box of lies.
Except people knew what the game was, and EA told you what you were getting when you bought it. If you didn't like what the game had, you shouldn't have bought it tbh.
When I found out the Sims 3 base game only had 4 hobby objects (Fishbowl, Telescope, Easel and Gutair) I held off. Because I love giving my Sims things to do other than visiting community lots, and going to work.
I bought the Sims 3 when Ambitions came out cos I was in LOVE with the Active careers.
EA didn't lie, they just didn't deliver. That doesnt mean you can blame them for purchasing a game you knew you wouldn't like. Just sayin.
I like the Sims 4 just because of the HUGE selection of Hobby and Skill objects. So when I saw the depth of Cooking, Gardening, Collecting, Science, Woodworking activities, I knew I would enjoy it.
Not to single you out, but posts of this nature always make me chuckle.
When this game was first announced and we saw the first few images, whenever anyone said, "I don't like the look of it," fifty people would jump down their throats, frothing at the mouth, saying "Those are renders, you can't judge the game until there's more information." And whenever more information was released, there was always a new hoop for people to jump through whenever they voiced their concern and dislike of the direction the game was taking.
"You can't judge it until GamesCon." GameCon came and went.
"You can't judge it until the Yibs get their hands on it." The Yibs returned from SimsCamp and gave their feedback, good and bad.
"You can't judge it, it's still Pre-Alpha!" We saw the Gurus play the game live on Twitch.
"So what if it's only weeks before the game drops, you can't judge it until you play it!" People bought the game back in September and others have given it a try for free this weekend.
And after all of that, what do we get? "Except people knew what the game was, and EA told you what you were getting when you bought it. If you didn't like what the game had, you shouldn't have bought it tbh."
Talk about a Catch 22...
So you paid $60 based on some forum posters, rather than because you were happy with what you saw and knew about the game?
I still don't see how EA stole people's money.
Have you ever played a base sims game before! They all have nothing amazing to do at the start!
That is not true. Sims 1 and Sims 2 base game where amazing. Sims 3 was far less amazing and Sims 4 leaves me cold. More of the same but so much less then 1 or 2.
Sims 1 base game was not amazing, it was just a new concept at the time. It had almost no content at all.
Have you ever played a base sims game before! They all have nothing amazing to do at the start!
That is not true. Sims 1 and Sims 2 base game where amazing. Sims 3 was far less amazing and Sims 4 leaves me cold. More of the same but so much less then 1 or 2.
Sims 1 base game was not amazing, it was just a new concept at the time. It had almost no content at all.
And it was done 15 years ago by a smaller company with a much smaller budget.
I'm not even sure it's worth it to add my opinion to this thread, because there are so many things I agree with and so many I don't. For the record, I don't hate the Sims 4; but I don't love it either. My anger is directed towards EA's Corporate Headquarters first, and now lately at The Sims Team in general for admitting that they took shortcuts, and for insulting the community's intelligence by using "too hard and to expensive to make" as an excuse for stripping the game, rather than working with what they had to try to make an more integrated and absorbing game, the same as the other base games were.
I was the same as some are here when it came to The Sims 3, in that I would be quick to accuse people who said that they didn't like the game because they'd done everything that there was to do, of lacking imagination. Now, I find myself on the other side of the fence. To be fair though, the people who claimed that they'd done everything that there was to do were talking about collecting, skilling, and reaching the tops of careers, and that's *all* they were talking about when they said that they'd done all there was to do, and in terms of actual gameplay there really was more for those players who wanted to think outside the box.
If the best you can say in defense of The Sims 4, is "Have you collected every rock, tried every skill, topped every career", etc. etc. and then accuse others of not trying to play the game the "right" way, then that tells me that the game has very little else to offer besides the grind and the rpg limited scripted gameplay. I understand that you're upset that players aren't praising the game to the skies, and I can even understand that it puts you in a position where you feel like you have to justify paying the money you have paid for this game, when others have paid the same amount or more, and feel like they just got scammed by EA. But what I find virtually unforgiveable is that *you expect us to be willing to spend hundreds of dollars on gamepacks, stuff packs and expansion packs* for this game, just so that we can begin to like the game and praise it to the high heavens. Sorry, but that ain't happening...at least not by me. I don't pay for potential. I pay for a fully-fleshed game. I bought expansion packs for the Sims 2 and Sims 3 because they added new depth to the depth that was already in the base game.
I don't think the Guru's are trying to insult anyone's intelligence. The fact that most of the budget was wasted on the Sims 4 being online, means they probably don't have as much money to work on The Sims 4 as they did with previous games.
Have you ever played a base sims game before! They all have nothing amazing to do at the start!
That is not true. Sims 1 and Sims 2 base game where amazing. Sims 3 was far less amazing and Sims 4 leaves me cold. More of the same but so much less then 1 or 2.
Sims 1 base game was not amazing, it was just a new concept at the time. It had almost no content at all.
And it was done 15 years ago by a smaller company with a much smaller budget.
Still doesn't make it more amazing than The Sims 3 base game for example. It was amazing for it's time, but is not comparable to later base games.
Be grateful you found this out now than spending almost $80 on this empty box of lies.
Except people knew what the game was, and EA told you what you were getting when you bought it. If you didn't like what the game had, you shouldn't have bought it tbh.
When I found out the Sims 3 base game only had 4 hobby objects (Fishbowl, Telescope, Easel and Gutair) I held off. Because I love giving my Sims things to do other than visiting community lots, and going to work.
I bought the Sims 3 when Ambitions came out cos I was in LOVE with the Active careers.
EA didn't lie, they just didn't deliver. That doesnt mean you can blame them for purchasing a game you knew you wouldn't like. Just sayin.
I like the Sims 4 just because of the HUGE selection of Hobby and Skill objects. So when I saw the depth of Cooking, Gardening, Collecting, Science, Woodworking activities, I knew I would enjoy it.
Not to single you out, but posts of this nature always make me chuckle.
When this game was first announced and we saw the first few images, whenever anyone said, "I don't like the look of it," fifty people would jump down their throats, frothing at the mouth, saying "Those are renders, you can't judge the game until there's more information." And whenever more information was released, there was always a new hoop for people to jump through whenever they voiced their concern and dislike of the direction the game was taking.
"You can't judge it until GamesCon." GameCon came and went.
"You can't judge it until the Yibs get their hands on it." The Yibs returned from SimsCamp and gave their feedback, good and bad.
"You can't judge it, it's still Pre-Alpha!" We saw the Gurus play the game live on Twitch.
"So what if it's only weeks before the game drops, you can't judge it until you play it!" People bought the game back in September and others have given it a try for free this weekend.
And after all of that, what do we get? "Except people knew what the game was, and EA told you what you were getting when you bought it. If you didn't like what the game had, you shouldn't have bought it tbh."
Talk about a Catch 22...
Exactly this. Can't have it both ways. I'm a hypocrite for buying something I somehow should have known I shouldn't like, and those who waited for more information are hypocrites for judging something they didn't buy. Therefore, the only people who have a leg to stand on here are those who bought it and say nothing, or people who bought it and like it. Or something. Talk about flawed logic.
This. So much this.
For a start it's not up to any simmer to judge another on their actions or feelings.
Apart from that what do you know about your fellow simmers life? Do you know the mitigating circumstances to their motivations or feelings? No of course you don't. No one should be judging others because it's based around a whole lot of assumptions. And you know what they say about what happens when you assume.
Honestly, if you KNEW the game wasn't to your liking, bought it anyway because a few forum posters convinced you to, then blame EA that you wasted your money due to missing features, that you knew were already missing, that's not EA's fault. It's yours.
It would be like buying a movie you knew you wouldn't enjoy because a friend recommended it, then calling up the production complaining they stole your cash because you didn't like it.
Be grateful you found this out now than spending almost $80 on this empty box of lies.
Except people knew what the game was, and EA told you what you were getting when you bought it. If you didn't like what the game had, you shouldn't have bought it tbh.
When I found out the Sims 3 base game only had 4 hobby objects (Fishbowl, Telescope, Easel and Gutair) I held off. Because I love giving my Sims things to do other than visiting community lots, and going to work.
I bought the Sims 3 when Ambitions came out cos I was in LOVE with the Active careers.
EA didn't lie, they just didn't deliver. That doesnt mean you can blame them for purchasing a game you knew you wouldn't like. Just sayin.
I like the Sims 4 just because of the HUGE selection of Hobby and Skill objects. So when I saw the depth of Cooking, Gardening, Collecting, Science, Woodworking activities, I knew I would enjoy it.
Not to single you out, but posts of this nature always make me chuckle.
When this game was first announced and we saw the first few images, whenever anyone said, "I don't like the look of it," fifty people would jump down their throats, frothing at the mouth, saying "Those are renders, you can't judge the game until there's more information." And whenever more information was released, there was always a new hoop for people to jump through whenever they voiced their concern and dislike of the direction the game was taking.
"You can't judge it until GamesCon." GameCon came and went.
"You can't judge it until the Yibs get their hands on it." The Yibs returned from SimsCamp and gave their feedback, good and bad.
"You can't judge it, it's still Pre-Alpha!" We saw the Gurus play the game live on Twitch.
"So what if it's only weeks before the game drops, you can't judge it until you play it!" People bought the game back in September and others have given it a try for free this weekend.
And after all of that, what do we get? "Except people knew what the game was, and EA told you what you were getting when you bought it. If you didn't like what the game had, you shouldn't have bought it tbh."
Talk about a Catch 22...
Exactly this. Can't have it both ways. I'm a hypocrite for buying something I somehow should have known I shouldn't like, and those who waited for more information are hypocrites for judging something they didn't buy. Therefore, the only people who have a leg to stand on here are those who bought it and say nothing, or people who bought it and like it. Or something. Talk about flawed logic.
If you didn't buy the Sims 4 because what you know about the game, isn't to your liking, that's perfectly reasonable. I did the same with The Sims 3.
If you bought the game, and you knew the missing content would mean you wouldn't like it, but blame EA for you spending $60 - $80, that's not really reasonable.
People are going to judge no matter what you do, why let a few forum posters opinions make you spend $60 - $80 on something you know is not for you
On a serious note: What did you do in the other sims games that was so much more exciting?
I played with two other sims, because playing my simself even in TS3 is a bore sometimes.
In TS3 base game, I was actually overwhelmed when I first got it. The open world offer a lot more than what TS4 has, but yes it was lacking too. I'll admit that. I wasn't bored though.
I think the fact that TS4 offers nothing new is why it's boring to me and many others. At least TS3 gave us something we never had before like open worlds.
Open World is nice but it's literally just watching your Sim drive between lots, instead of loading screens. And wait for Sims to answer the door, instead of loading screens.
It doesn't really add any Gameplay for you to explore. The only thing the Open World did have Gameplay wise were seeds to collect, and The Sims 4 has that and more.
Actually, open world adds this: You can have one sim at home writing a book, another at the gym, and yet another at the park, having fun with other sims, etc. In fact, my biggest issue with the closed world is that you cannot direct the grayed out sim to do those boring things like paint or work on a rocket ship or whatever.
I just line up my Sims action queue before I switch, I did the same when the world was Open anyway.
If I leave my Sim at writing a book for example, I'll come back and she's usually finished it unless her needs were down.
In the Sims 3, if I didn't line up my Sims action queue they most likely drove home, or just read a book or something. So whether the world is Open or not, I find the gameplay is very similar.
I'm just eternally grateful Guru's made it possible to have Sims actively doing things while they are left on a lot. In the Sims 2, time froze and you came back and Sims were no further advanced than before
Be grateful you found this out now than spending almost $80 on this empty box of lies.
Except people knew what the game was, and EA told you what you were getting when you bought it. If you didn't like what the game had, you shouldn't have bought it tbh.
When I found out the Sims 3 base game only had 4 hobby objects (Fishbowl, Telescope, Easel and Gutair) I held off. Because I love giving my Sims things to do other than visiting community lots, and going to work.
I bought the Sims 3 when Ambitions came out cos I was in LOVE with the Active careers.
EA didn't lie, they just didn't deliver. That doesnt mean you can blame them for purchasing a game you knew you wouldn't like. Just sayin.
I like the Sims 4 just because of the HUGE selection of Hobby and Skill objects. So when I saw the depth of Cooking, Gardening, Collecting, Science, Woodworking activities, I knew I would enjoy it.
Not to single you out, but posts of this nature always make me chuckle.
When this game was first announced and we saw the first few images, whenever anyone said, "I don't like the look of it," fifty people would jump down their throats, frothing at the mouth, saying "Those are renders, you can't judge the game until there's more information." And whenever more information was released, there was always a new hoop for people to jump through whenever they voiced their concern and dislike of the direction the game was taking.
"You can't judge it until GamesCon." GameCon came and went.
"You can't judge it until the Yibs get their hands on it." The Yibs returned from SimsCamp and gave their feedback, good and bad.
"You can't judge it, it's still Pre-Alpha!" We saw the Gurus play the game live on Twitch.
"So what if it's only weeks before the game drops, you can't judge it until you play it!" People bought the game back in September and others have given it a try for free this weekend.
And after all of that, what do we get? "Except people knew what the game was, and EA told you what you were getting when you bought it. If you didn't like what the game had, you shouldn't have bought it tbh."
Talk about a Catch 22...
So you paid $60 based on some forum posters, rather than because you were happy with what you saw and knew about the game?
I still don't see how EA stole people's money.
Interesting comment but doesn't deal with the Catch 22 situation forum posters like to hurl dissatisfied people into. Must be nice to always have a Win-Win argument up one's sleeve...
Also, as I've mentioned repeatedly, I did not pay for the game, my sister bought it for me as a gift--and, no, I did not ask for it, either. And by the way, I never said EA stole anyone's money, don't know where you pulled that one from.
I uninstalled TS4 with about 24 hours left on my free trial so I wouldn't forget to do it tomorrow. I am that uninterested in what I've played so far. Those controls literally ruined any possible enjoyment I may have gotten building or playing. I know it's not a big deal to others, but for me, I finally understood what console gamers were talking about during the war last year because it really is all about the controller. Maybe TS4 plays great on a tablet, but it's a frustrating exercise in the "do I have lint on my mouse sensor or do I need to twist my wrist more to the right" game on a PC.
I honestly envy all of you that weren't bothered and am glad you can get past it to play your game. Unfortunately, I am done trying to ever play TS4. I don't even care if they release the "TS2 throwback and toddler ultimate family gamepansion pack". I've learned I cannot play without bottom edge scrolling, it's deeply ingrained in my psyche.
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I don't know -- decorating with CASt was pretty amazing IMO.
Edit: And I'm so tired of, "The other games were lackluster at the start IMO so it's just fine that this game is as well despite it costing as much as other games being released that are far more complete." I'm comparing the Sims 4 and its price tag with other current games, not games that came out a few years ago.
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Personally, the game doesn't do anything for me. It doesn't cater to my playing style and it not even pleasing to my eyes, so TS4 is just not for me. Maybe for some of you, but not for me.
And @Jarsie9 You make a valid point. I actually agree with you.
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> Have you ever played a base sims game before! They all have nothing amazing to do at the start!
You keep saying this but that wasn't true for my style of play when I got TS2 when it first came out.
I played just the base, without having the internet, without knowing anything about needing patches, no clue that there were forums, mods, hacks or cc. - Just a clueless person enjoying the game.
By the time I got internet, Uni, NL, OFB, FFS, GL and Pets had come out and I went and bought them all on the same day that I had the internet hooked up.
And let me tell you...not once did I feel that I was bored! Not once did I feel like the game was lacking or wasn't amazing!
And, before I got the UC, there'd be times that I'd uninstall all the EPs and SPs and just play with the base game all on it's own because that base game is that good!
So, I beg to differ with you about "All base games have nothing amazing to do at the start!" coz...that's not actually true for everyone.
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Yes, thank you, I have. I started playing base games on release fifteen years ago. I ordered near on everything for my entire fifteen years as a customer including sims4. I played every single base game and was more than happy too-I moved on because I wanted to embrace the next generation. And as I bought on release date I was playing at least six months before an expansion without getting bored-in fact I've always been addicted to the sims. Until now. So I'd say that says more about the game than me-especially as I went back to sims2 and enjoyed a ten year old game over the new version
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This sounds like me in some ways.
I had no clue about patches, forums, CC, MODs or anything else throughout the original Sims up to about halfway through Sims 2 and
I had a blast with both base games.
Throughout the Sims 2 I would frequently think to myself," wouldn't it be great to have no loading screens and have all the Sims in the world age with mine?" Obviously I was unbelievably excited when I learned of Sims 3 and that it had what I always thought would make the Sims 2 perfect.
I again had a blast with the base game for many months.
The Sims 4 I'm sorry to say for me is a total disappointment. I tried it for 3 weeks and couldn't find an appealing thing about it.
I uninstalled it back in mid November and I have no intentions of putting any more money into this game.
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> I had no clue about patches, forums, CC, MODs or anything else throughout the original Sims up to about halfway through Sims 2 and
> I had a blast with both base games.
> Throughout the Sims 2 I would frequently think to myself," wouldn't it be great to have no loading screens and have all the Sims in the world age with mine?" Obviously I was unbelievably excited when I learned of Sims 3 and that it had what I always thought would make the Sims 2 perfect.
> I again had a blast with the base game for many months.
> The Sims 4 I'm sorry to say for me is a total disappointment. I tried it for 3 weeks and couldn't find an appealing thing about it.
> I uninstalled it back in mid November and I have no intentions of putting any more money into this game.
I never could get into TS3 altho it had a lot of things that I wish could have been give to TS2 in an EP or SP (had a friend who let me try it out after she first got it)
But I did start buying it a few months ago...not played much of it, yet.
She loved it and everything about it and we were both happy that each of us had a sims game that we loved.
Saw her 2 Sundays ago and she had bought TS4 and the GP for it and she and her husband both love it.
I'm happy for them to have another Sims game that they can enjoy together. It doesn't bother me in the least that they bought and enjoy the game.
What does bother me is that, it is so far removed from a sandbox game that I wasn't even tempted to ask for a trial run.
I love my infants and toddlers so much that I turn aging off for a very long time at each life stage.
I love when family and friends come over to their house and take the infant to the sink to bathe it or to the frig to feed it or head straight for the toddler to play with it's toys with him/her or peek-a-boo or whatever.
I do like goal oriented game play, sometimes...but not in my sims game when it's being forced on me. I want to play my sims game the way I choose to play it...that's what a sandbox game is suppose to be about.
I'm just so disappointed that they chose to drain so much of the sand out of the box that even my cat would turn it's nose up at it.
But I'm very happy that there are folks who do enjoy the game and I probably will eventually get it somewhere down the long, long road. But for now I'll just continue to enjoy my first love, the UC - all these years playing it and I still haven't played a lot of the things in it. lol
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That is not true. Sims 1 and Sims 2 base game where amazing. Sims 3 was far less amazing and Sims 4 leaves me cold. More of the same but so much less then 1 or 2.
So you paid $60 based on some forum posters, rather than because you were happy with what you saw and knew about the game?
I still don't see how EA stole people's money.
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Sims 1 base game was not amazing, it was just a new concept at the time. It had almost no content at all.
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And it was done 15 years ago by a smaller company with a much smaller budget.
I don't think the Guru's are trying to insult anyone's intelligence. The fact that most of the budget was wasted on the Sims 4 being online, means they probably don't have as much money to work on The Sims 4 as they did with previous games.
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Still doesn't make it more amazing than The Sims 3 base game for example. It was amazing for it's time, but is not comparable to later base games.
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Honestly, if you KNEW the game wasn't to your liking, bought it anyway because a few forum posters convinced you to, then blame EA that you wasted your money due to missing features, that you knew were already missing, that's not EA's fault. It's yours.
It would be like buying a movie you knew you wouldn't enjoy because a friend recommended it, then calling up the production complaining they stole your cash because you didn't like it.
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If you didn't buy the Sims 4 because what you know about the game, isn't to your liking, that's perfectly reasonable. I did the same with The Sims 3.
If you bought the game, and you knew the missing content would mean you wouldn't like it, but blame EA for you spending $60 - $80, that's not really reasonable.
People are going to judge no matter what you do, why let a few forum posters opinions make you spend $60 - $80 on something you know is not for you
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I just line up my Sims action queue before I switch, I did the same when the world was Open anyway.
If I leave my Sim at writing a book for example, I'll come back and she's usually finished it unless her needs were down.
In the Sims 3, if I didn't line up my Sims action queue they most likely drove home, or just read a book or something. So whether the world is Open or not, I find the gameplay is very similar.
I'm just eternally grateful Guru's made it possible to have Sims actively doing things while they are left on a lot. In the Sims 2, time froze and you came back and Sims were no further advanced than before
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Interesting comment but doesn't deal with the Catch 22 situation forum posters like to hurl dissatisfied people into. Must be nice to always have a Win-Win argument up one's sleeve...
Also, as I've mentioned repeatedly, I did not pay for the game, my sister bought it for me as a gift--and, no, I did not ask for it, either. And by the way, I never said EA stole anyone's money, don't know where you pulled that one from.
I think this thread lasted longer than my free trial.
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I honestly envy all of you that weren't bothered and am glad you can get past it to play your game. Unfortunately, I am done trying to ever play TS4. I don't even care if they release the "TS2 throwback and toddler ultimate family gamepansion pack". I've learned I cannot play without bottom edge scrolling, it's deeply ingrained in my psyche.