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Also, whims from other packs, that could've easily been used as wants, were taken out? So there's less wants than there were whims? I mean, I appreciate that they took out stuff like "buy a beebox", but now it seems the new one is "listen to ___ music".
And not being able to remove wants. I understand the thought process here, but I am just not a fan of the choice. TS4 has a problem with sims all wanting the same things regardless of traits (or now even sexuality), so when my sim would roll a whim to do something they would never do, I could just click them out until I rolled one more fitting. But now you would need to buy a potion to reset it? That you get currency for by completing wants? This just seems nonsensical to me.
I'm also concerned about the fears. I was already a little apprehensive about the way they were being implemented before the update came out, and now I'm even more so. I saw one where a sim who was afraid of fires couldn't even light a fireplace. Which I suppose makes sense. But then how are they supposed to get over their fears? Do we have to wait for a specific time? Like how during the livestream they said sims will get the pop-up about it being a good day to try to get over their fears? But they can also have the possibility of never getting over their fears? I'm also concerned about the fears getting stuck, because Parenthood traits sometimes bug out and don't go away without cheating them out. Now that fears are also categorized as traits, I'm afraid the same might happen here...
I'm still happy that the team finally implemented this feature, but I just really hope they plan on going back and updating it. Have they said anything about updating it, the way they said they would keep updating likes and dislikes?
This right there, just nailed the coffin for me. I will definitely NOT be updating now, so I guess I won't be purchasing any more future packs.
I'm a whims-based player .... they took away the "whims" and replaced them with "wants" ... sounded awesome!
Except that they ONLY gave us "wants" for the Base Game (and the new High School Pack, which in order to buy the pack you have to update the game), so now we are getting even less than what we previously had.
Yeah .... no.
This is just so frustrating, what do you mean "where it makes sense"???? It makes sense to make use of this feature across the entire game!
Exactly! It makes no sense that a lot of traits and aspirations don't have corresponding wants. Ugh.
This isn't something you can add only to a couple packs, this should be one of the staples of a sim's personality.
So they made the game worse on purpose? Because if Wants and Fears are better, in theory, than whims, but cannot connect to 8 years worth of packs, then yeah... no. You just made the game worse. If you didn't have time to add it in for all packs, don't add it in at all and instead keep the whims!
How does the wants and fears work because I am not liking my sim mood is now altered over fearing a dead in job.
I really wanted the sexual orientation feature and the body hair, but this was an utter disappointment. I regret downloading this patch (and I've only myself to blame). Though I appreciate the lesson. I foolishly thought the wants would be an improvement (pack by pack). "Less is More" is not a feature I enjoy in games.
We want: Faeries, with a good ability tree, hopefully before summer 2024.
What do we want to get rid of: The holiday bug, the constant showering and the weed glitch.
Unless, of course... you enjoy donating your blood during every visit?
Really? I would have hoped they wouldn't get us all like this before they acted.
I feel for the gurus and devs that can't control this kind of decision making - I'm sure they're heart broken not being able to give us a complete feature. That's why I am making noise, besides me wanting the game to be good and enjoy it - I've been waiting patiently for years for wants and fears - and then they do this?! I'm just angry and sad.
Just so extremely disappointed, to not even add wants and fears based on the past expansion packs alone, and then build it out over time. I know modders will be on this shortly but, it sucks
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Some of the wants also seem unnecessary. I don't need to see that my sims want to relieve themselves because I can see that by clicking on the needs bar.
From reading other posts am disappointed that the fears seem to be a random trait that occurs during gameplay, instead of a customisable option. I was hoping it would be something you could add, like an aspiration to overcome. I know there are desires to have 'more realistic' gameplay but I think it is somewhat bad taste to include the ability to develop real phobias as a form of entertainment in a game. If fears were a CAS option instead, this would then make them more of a personality trait or story idea which everyone could customise to their game.
I like to make up my own stories for my Sims and am finding I'm having to turn off more and more of the new features so that I'm not constantly getting interrupted by random things that keep happening when I'm trying to do other things with my Sims. (Am still getting bombarded with phonecalls even though I have Neighbourhood Stories turned off!)
Looking at the list, I do like the types of fears that have been included (wish they could have included more nonsensical ones, as that would have fitted more with the game's aesthetic). I'm just disappointed with how they've been applied to the game.
Sorry to moan, but this feature really doesn't feel like it's been thought through.
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I regret I updated my game already, because I could have played with old whims just fine (I used them quite a lot and I think they worked well enough, though of course I wanted them to be better and to have more of them). I was worried about this new update but I guess I was too optimistic in the end. The team should be given enough time and resources to make systems like these include the previous packs. It would make the game so much better.
I'm done too. And it's not just this stuff that pushed me to do it.
I was genuinely hopping for wants and fears for Sims 4. Begging for it. It was the only thing, paring with romantic preferences, that I really missed and needed for a more depth.
They literity ruinined it. My sims with traits from the others 131244 packs that we have, will be useless. No soul, no nothing.
What is the point to buy all the packs if we can't have crosspack?
Same with the "likes/dislikes". We are still waiting for them to put more...
I defended the game until today.
I will NOT buy another pack until we have more wants/fears from previsious packs. It's just stupid and nonesense!