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Tried my first Jungle Adventure today and boy it's boring
Beardedgeek
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Turns out this pack is almost as pointless as the other vacation pack.
Rent is too high.
Equipment is too expensive.
Digging is too slow
Antidotes are WAY too epensive
It takes WAY too long to get the culture skill. I want to learn that dance, 🐸🐸🐸🐸!
At least it is mildly entertaining, unlike Outdoor Adventures that has no redeeming qualities whatsoever.
Rent is too high.
Equipment is too expensive.
Digging is too slow
Antidotes are WAY too epensive
It takes WAY too long to get the culture skill. I want to learn that dance, 🐸🐸🐸🐸!
At least it is mildly entertaining, unlike Outdoor Adventures that has no redeeming qualities whatsoever.
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The rewards definitely make up for all those expenses that you consider to be too high ... and I had my sim max the culture skill in like 5 minutes real time just by talking to the locals
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I built this because I wanted to give the trip more of an adventure vibe.
Bathrooms (toilets, sink, shower) are in the little house and sims can cook on either the barbecue or roast something over the open fire. My campground rent is high at §240/night, because I wanted a pool and built it on a 30x30 lot. But if you build yours on a smaller lot and don't add a pool, I am sure you can go under §200/night.
The rest is a matter of playstyle, I suppose. I spent each holiday 50/50 socialising and adventuring and my sims always come back with more money then they came with.
Hope you'll find a way to get some enjoyment out of this pack!
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The great thing about having Outdoor Retreat is that it's objects are highly usable outside of it.
I take my sim's tent anywhere to the jungle so he can sleep near the Omiscan ruins whenever. Even inside the temple when it's needed ahaha
This is so true, even while not vacation. I play all of my main sims rags to riches style and I use OR objects all the time for that reason. The tents are obviously great and the beds and the shower from this pack are the only ones that look right on a lot before you can afford walls.
Nice pictures, by the way. I still love the whole look of Selvadorada.
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The jungle part is still utterly boring. When I actually made it to the temple? Much better. Not amazing, but... the grind / gameplay loop / whatever you want to call it works. I did make a hefty profit in the end, so I am willing to go back soon, actually.
Went back.
And found another problem.
I have taken 4 days of vacation, which is all the vacation time my sims have. So far I have only visited one area in TWO DAYS because I lost the machete, and there is not a single machete on sale. For two days.
Is there a mod the guarantees that you can get a hold of the items you need without having to quit your job?
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I did exactly the same xD and I honestly love the archaeology stuff in JA. It's a cool way to make a lot of money but still having to invest quite a bit of sim time. I also like that you can earn money by doing archaeology for that museum thing.
To the OP: I'm sad to hear you're not enjoying the vacation. JA is definitely my favorite GP so far, both in terms of gameplay and objects. Maybe when your sims have worked more and got more money and days to spend you'll enjoy it more
Well I CAN, but it takes about 3 sims hours to clear one door.
I finally resorted to it, which led to a few fun screenshots (the girlfriend sitting on the cooler eating food while watching her boyfriend trying to tear off wines as thick as his arms for HOURS)
As for enjoying it... I do like the temple! That's what I like about this pack.
The Jungle parts in between? It's like Maxis decided to make it a boring as possible on purpose.
Plus really REALLY bad design decisions:
1. Randomized gear???
2. Randomized gear FOR SALE!?!?!? (this one is either not playtested at all, or somebody decided to deliberately troll players)
3. Boring but mandatory "chance cards" when going through an opening, more likely than not leading to you losing a machete, or getting poisoned (Is there a mod that removes the chance cards?)
4. EVERYTHING takes so much TIME. Not only does it cost me several hundred Simolions per night. It also makes me waste vacation days! From Several sim hours worth of chopping through wines, to long LONG walking distances on the maps, to the utterly stupid decision not to allow fast travel directly to an area you have already discovered. That last one is what really bugs me. I can understand that I have to rediscover all areas at each visit, but during the same vacation? NO. Give me my 🐸🐸🐸🐸 fast travel to the temple! NOW!
But yes, this game pack is still FAR better than Outdoor Retreat, which I still fail to see the point of. You do basically the same things you do in any park in the game, but it costs a lot of money, and it is harder to fill up needs.
Oh okay, I wasn't aware how long it took without a maxed fitness sim
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No worries. At least I always have Gym Rat on all sims. Always.
also, higher gardening skill makes using hands at the gates faster (and they raise gardening while doing it). both my main exploration families had max level gardeners as their patriarch/matriarch (one per), since both were also scientists who had worked up gardening to splice plants for work
double also, when your sim gets high enough in the archaeology skill, museums will mail them artifacts to authenticate, sending these back to them afterwards can make quite a bit of money. after a while, the pack makes it too easy to get money (some say, at least)
All of that sounds great. Too bad I had no way of knowing that from the start. It really is VERY frustrating if you go in with low-level sims.
i cheated a local selvadoran into one household too, just for story purposes, but also partially to see if they got anything interesting or new. it seems they're created with 3-5 in the culture skill. interesting that they're not all already max in it, esp with the 'safe from fire/lightning bugs' bit. the story reason is it was meant to be about a century in the past when they explored, the main member of this family is a vampire scientist and anthropologist, so the selvadoran was meant to be his guide when he went on the first ever archaeological expedition to the jungle (with sepia toned pictures for authenticity). actually got kind of hard keeping the wife out of the way and working on skills on her own and not taking the pictures. the selvadoran is now a poison ghost (which took way, way, way too many attempts to poison, even with nothing in any skills) and still stays with the family. is a bit interesting because of the ghost's effect.
even when played, selvadorans have the same interactions when other sims talk to them (talk about local heritage and such) and can make the poison antidotes when asked, but they can't make the antidotes out of inventory. have to be asked about it from another sim, which is a bit odd. the antidotes can be cloned, though, so i've got several with both my science households, now. though it apparently cannot be sold in retail stores
also, if you have outdoor retreat, you can have sims ask selvadoran vendors to show their wares, which lets you buy tents and such akin to the ranger station in outdoor retreat does. also pet supplies and a few other things, if i recall (or has those since the pet expansion, just in case you forgot to bring any with your pets). if you kept the trailhead lot (right outside the first gate to the jungle) a trailhead, it's a really good idea to edit the lot to include a fire pit, a few tents, some pet supplies (i have a litter box, 3-4 chew toys, 2 food dishes hidden among the vegetation), a tub for washing dogs (i cheated in a handiness crafted wooden tub), maybe a cooler and a few other things. i put in an outdoor shower beneath one of the giant trees, forgetting that sims can just take showers in the nearby public bathroom. but they may like the outdoor one better, anyway
I did know about the tents and pet stuff since I was looking for a new machete.
(Oh Maxis: "Secret items" is not a good enough hint for "when your culture skill is maxed you can buy machetes all the time". "Secret Items" means, at least to me, "new stuff")
So OP I definitely feel you on staying in Selvadorada for a long time as it can get boring. But in my case, my Sim is on a mission to get the retail store going & find that relic top/base, so it makes it fun. But if I were to send a family for 4 days, I think I would get bored. I prefer Granite Falls for family fun & Selvadorada for exploring the temples.
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