Game Bestows Genius Trait?

GalacticGal · June 2023

I have never had this happen before, so I can't help but think this is something from Growing Together. My Rock Star's firstborn aged to Toddler as a Top-Notch Infant. He also managed by doing his homework and the two school projects he's had, to be labeled a genius. So, I'm really curious to know if it comes from the new EP, or why this hasn't happened in my game, previously.

EgonVM · June 2023

I've tried to understand the self-discovery system from Growing Together through tuning files (which I've made a thread of). Feel free to take a look at it to learn more about the system.

Though I'll ask what is your sim's age? From my knowledge, only young adults, adults, and elders should get self-discovery moments. And how was he labeled? Did the trait just appear or did you get a pop-up asking you if you want that trait to be equipped?

GalacticGal · June 2023

EgonVM wrote: »

I've tried to understand the self-discovery system from Growing Together through tuning files (which I've made a thread of). Feel free to take a look at it to learn more about the system.

Though I'll ask what is your sim's age? From my knowledge, only young adults, adults, and elders should get self-discovery moments. And how was he labeled? Did the trait just appear or did you get a pop-up asking you if you want that trait to be equipped?

Got a pop-up in my game that I could accept or not. Some I accepted, others I declined.

ETA: The Sim in question is still a Child.

EgonVM · June 2023

GalacticGal wrote: »

EgonVM wrote: »

I've tried to understand the self-discovery system from Growing Together through tuning files (which I've made a thread of). Feel free to take a look at it to learn more about the system.

Though I'll ask what is your sim's age? From my knowledge, only young adults, adults, and elders should get self-discovery moments. And how was he labeled? Did the trait just appear or did you get a pop-up asking you if you want that trait to be equipped?

Got a pop-up in my game that I could accept or not. Some I accepted, others I declined.

ETA: The Sim in question is still a Child.

Now that is odd... It might also be that I might have misunderstood the tuning files, but even looking into Internet I see it only happening to grown-up sims...

Any mods by chance that might affect that?

GalacticGal · June 2023

EgonVM wrote: »

GalacticGal wrote: »

EgonVM wrote: »

I've tried to understand the self-discovery system from Growing Together through tuning files (which I've made a thread of). Feel free to take a look at it to learn more about the system.

Though I'll ask what is your sim's age? From my knowledge, only young adults, adults, and elders should get self-discovery moments. And how was he labeled? Did the trait just appear or did you get a pop-up asking you if you want that trait to be equipped?

Got a pop-up in my game that I could accept or not. Some I accepted, others I declined.

ETA: The Sim in question is still a Child.

Now that is odd... It might also be that I might have misunderstood the tuning files, but even looking into Internet I see it only happening to grown-up sims...

Any mods by chance that might affect that?

None that would affect that. I do have MCCC, but I don't set much. It's highly underused in my game, unless, Deaderpool has created another preset to do what happened in my game. It should be stated that Genius is in the family already, and he may have inherited this Trait.

83bienchen · June 2023

I also do think the issue Must be mod related. I've seen Simmers having self-discovery notifications for their dogs.

RoseQuartz · June 2023

83bienchen wrote: »

I also do think the issue Must be mod related. I've seen Simmers having self-discovery notifications for their dogs.

HA! Now that's funny!

I haven't seen it happen to children in my vanilla save.

GalacticGal · June 2023

83bienchen wrote: »

I also do think the issue Must be mod related. I've seen Simmers having self-discovery notifications for their dogs.

Well, dogs are people, too. Just sayin'.

Simmingal · June 2023

yeah its Growing Together thing
idk about ages but i haven't noticed other than adult sims getting self discoveries yet

I just keep getting cheerful suggestion over and over because its tied to sims needs being full

they must really be looking at the bright side while I'm destroying their lives all because i took them to toilet first such a kind sim god i am

or I guess it could be silent rebellion brewing hmm better go hunt those party poopers

GalacticGal · June 2023

I'm uncertain it was a Self-discovery thing. I seem to recall it being a Trait he acquired.

itsTheSimsGuy · June 2023

83bienchen wrote: »

I also do think the issue Must be mod related. I've seen Simmers having self-discovery notifications for their dogs.

I don’t use mods, I get them for pets, children and up. It’s meant to be like that.

Animals change change personality due to worldly experience so it makes total sense. It’s not a bug.

itsTheSimsGuy · June 2023

GalacticGal wrote: »

I'm uncertain it was a Self-discovery thing. I seem to recall it being a Trait he acquired.

Yes, most likely. You got a pop up right? That’s a self discovery. Children can 100% get them. It’s normal.

EgonVM · June 2023

itsTheSimsGuy wrote: »

GalacticGal wrote: »

I'm uncertain it was a Self-discovery thing. I seem to recall it being a Trait he acquired.

Yes, most likely. You got a pop up right? That’s a self discovery. Children can 100% get them. It’s normal.

Sorry, I don't think it's normal. Here's a picture from the in-game Lessons panel (which is written by the developers):

As it specifies, only young adults, adults, and elders should have those self-discovery moments. That's like at least two stages after child stage. In addition, trying to add a trait to a child with a cheat didn't work, leaving them still with one trait. Trying the same cheat on an elder did work, giving them their fourth trait. Replacing child's trait with cheats did work. The trait in question was Geek.

itsTheSimsGuy wrote: »

83bienchen wrote: »

I also do think the issue Must be mod related. I've seen Simmers having self-discovery notifications for their dogs.

I don’t use mods, I get them for pets, children and up. It’s meant to be like that.

Animals change change personality due to worldly experience so it makes total sense. It’s not a bug.

While in real life I wouldn't disagree, looking into the tuning files, there are no self-discovery moments for pets in game. The main reason might be that they aren't controllable. So these supposed animal self-discovery moments should add sim-traits to pets, not pet-traits.

So for now, I say both of them are a bug. If you get one for children or teens, refuse it as otherwise you'll waste a self-discovery moment. If you get one for a pet, refuse it as I don't know what effect it may have.

GalacticGal · June 2023

I don't believe any of the mods I use would alter the Traits or Self-Discoveries, for that matter. Unless MCCC had a default set for such, I don't often tweak the settings with it.

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