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Skin Tones NEED an update. Genetics NEED fixing
lzbthnndgls
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So I was playing with this family and when I aged up their first baby... which was not adopted FYI... and the baby did NOT look like the parents. At all. The most glaring thing was the child's skin tone, not to mention the eye color. I can understand the hair texture difference... but everything else was unacceptable. Instead of describing the discrepancies any further, I'll let the pictures speak for themselves. (Sorry if they're blurry, imgur hates it when I screenshot anything)
Mom
Dad
Original Toddler
What the Toddler should have looked like
I'm irritated. Sure there weren't as many skin tones before the update, but at least genetics worked reasonably well. Last week, the toddler was purple... purple. There is a purple skin tone and my toddler was purple. I don't like the whole warm-neutral-cool thing. I think that's what messes up the next generation and unless the devs fix that, I will have to continue using "cas.fulleditmode" and adjusting my toddlers' skin tones.
So please, I invite you all to share pictures of your toddlers/second generations and the comparison to their parents. Commiserate and rant with me.
Mom
Dad
Original Toddler
What the Toddler should have looked like
I'm irritated. Sure there weren't as many skin tones before the update, but at least genetics worked reasonably well. Last week, the toddler was purple... purple. There is a purple skin tone and my toddler was purple. I don't like the whole warm-neutral-cool thing. I think that's what messes up the next generation and unless the devs fix that, I will have to continue using "cas.fulleditmode" and adjusting my toddlers' skin tones.
So please, I invite you all to share pictures of your toddlers/second generations and the comparison to their parents. Commiserate and rant with me.
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When their little girl aged up, she was a good degree tanner than either of them. I was a bit confused. She kind of has the same skin color as her great-uncle. So for a moment, I thought that she inherited it from him, since genetics can pull from every generation.
But then I realized that doesn't make sense since her grandmother was adopted and has no blood relation to her great-uncle.
Edit: I should probably mention that I'm personally not bothered very much by it. It's just a curious little thing.
But if it happens constantly things get weird.
With townies almost every boy child my game makes is blond european hair and blue eyed with a black mother who's hair is african styled but randomly any color imaginable. The daughters always match the style of hair of the mother, and a skin tone similar to or identical to the mother, with a face that seems to match. The sons are always European. And somebody usually has alien or mermaid eyes - usually the eyes I have specifically disabled for 'random' in Sims 4 Studio and set to Alien / Mermaid only...
What explains the green eyes though? None of the parents have green eyes.
I can share pictures now. *happiness noises*
Here are the parents.
Daughter is on the far right. (meeting Sauron at the gym, but that's not relevant)
Grandparent or cousin twice removed?👀
EDIT: Their 4th child, a daughter is much closer to Gabriella, same hair, eyes, and the lighter skin tone.
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My original sim that started the whole legacy has blonde hair and she married Makoa (not sure if I’m spelling that right). None of her kids or grandkids inherited her blonde hair. But I somehow end up with a red head down the line. 😌 Not sure if this was glitch but I kept her as is.
When I moved both parents into the warm tones category, the kids ended up getting less drastic skin tones, and actually looked like they could be a mixture of their parents.
Also, hair and eyes can be a bit weird as well when it comes to family as well. I have had parents with blues eyes, and green eyes, in the first generation, and their kid comes out with a gray, which doesn't match their parents. I can kind of see if they had a parent with occult eyes, since that is a problem with the genetics in the game, but when both eyes are normal, and the kid doesn't inherit either one, can be kind of strange. Especially, being from two parents in the first generation.
Also, back to the hair, and a bit on the eyes, some genetics aren't really passed on realistically. In previous versions, like Sims 2, if a parent with blonde hair and blue eyes were married to a sim with Black hair and brown eyes, the kids would mostly inherit the dominant genes, like the brown eyes and hair. In the Sims 4, If I have a blonde haired blue eyed sim married to a black haired brown eyed sim, I have had cases where most of the kids are blonde. Which isn't terrible, but I feel that the majority should be black. Weirdly, though, I have had a blonde married to a redhead, and only one of their kids was a blonde, the rest were redheads.
So yeah, Sims 4 does need to be fixed a bit, because if the parents of a Sim are in different skin tone categories the result is weird skin tones that aren't even close to the parents. Eyes don't match to either parent, especially the first generation, where they shouldn't have that issue. Also, with blonde versus black hair, I shouldn't have so many blondes with genetics.
Why is there a dark tone so early in the list? I think they did this because of specific shades but it messes up genetics when there is a "dark" tone it in the middle of the light tone. If I two sim parents one light and one medium the baby has a chance of turing into that dark tone just because it sit in the middle of them when in reality it should be with the other dark tones. Even when you look at the darker tones they aren't organized correctly. I see dark shades jumping from medium dark to dark then medium dark again and then dark dark to to dark.
I want the swatches to look like scale going from lightest to darkest. Specific shades can makes this dark when you have one tone that is redder or bluer then the ones next to it but it's better then tones lightest/darkest jumping all over the place.
Also I'd like warm and cool tones to be dominate but when mixed together they make a neutral and neutral to be overall recessive if possible.
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One of the issues is that the original colors and the colors of the game generally are that they are too warm and bright that pale and cool colors stand out horribly.
I consider this to be a bug. The majority of my family members have green eyes, despite parents not having such.
Whereas I keep getting black parents that have blond blue eyed children. So I'm with you folks on bug. I think the 'genetics system' doesn't know how to handle hair and eye color very well. Some things it gets right - but other things it gets wrong with repeated consistency.
I didn't expect the toddler to have an identical skin tone to her parents, but I also didn't expect it to be this way off.
Here are the parents, Ethan and Petra:
Here is Edith as a baby:
Here is Edith, aged up into a toddler:
In the first image, this is what her skin tone defaulted to. In the second image, I adjusted her skin tone to be as close as I could get it to when she was a baby.
I really hate messing with genetics and features when aging my sims up, but this one really stumped me and just didn't make any sense, so I ended up saving the adjustments I made. I also saved before I aged her up, so I managed to test it twice and it gave me the same result each time.
From what I've read, it seems like players have the most issues with genetics, when using the neutral and cool skin tones. It would make sense, since one of Edith's parents does have a neutral skin tone, and I did use the slider to customise it further. I can't say it's the case for sure, as I haven't tested this with only the warm skin tones - though I suppose it may provide some insight.
I really hope they're working on a fix for this.
I know this bug isn't always mod related but the invisible crib mod seems to cause it with this report.
https://answers.ea.com/t5/Technical-Issues-PC/baby-skin-colour-change/td-p/9835233
I found this thread too:
https://answers.ea.com/t5/Bug-Reports/OPEN-For-Some-skin-tones-Baby-icon-different-color-than-Sim/m-p/10379126
we shouldn't have to change it in cas...that's the point. in game sims should be genetically correct based on their parents.
It could have something to do with the warm, cool, and neutral palettes. If one parent is warm dark and another is cool light, there's a pretty wide variety of possibilities. But if both parents are on the warm palette, it's more likely to be somewhere in the middle. That's my guess anyways.