I posted this as a comment in a thread of the opposite theme, but decided to add it as a stand-alone thread because I see a lot of people in despair thinking EL has ruined long time saves and new ones with spamming of the NAP feature and since I have been playing the pack a lot I thought I would try to clear things up for people so they don’t wind up hating the game for stealing their sense of control over their saves. The devs gave you complete control over this feature.
Guys, everything you described with N.A.P.s is a feature not a bug, and the pack is not broken. The good news it you can control it and fix it without mods.
- In gameplay settings under Eco Lifestyle take the check mark out of the box to allow NPC sim voting on N.A.P.s
- Turn testing cheats on
- Shift click the mailbox for your active household Or a community board
- Select instant repeal of NAPs and repeal any and all unwanted NAPs*
- Sell all future cubes, & clay balls and replace all stolen items in free build mode
- Enjoy your NAP free peaceful life
If there is a NAP you want your active sim can vote on it and it will take effect on in game Monday morning or you can instantly enact it by shift clicking the mailbox or community board and selecting it. You have complete control here and don’t have to trash saves you’ve been playing forever or feel frustrated by a game that seems out of control. Hope this helps.
ETA: heads up, you will after turning NPC voting off still get notifications that a NAP has been enacted.
Don’t panic it has not. You can shift click the mailbox and see any active NAPs, and see with NPC voting off, unless you enacted one the notification will be incorrect and no new NAP has actually taken effect.
ETA:
* in another thread someone mentioned that in older saves after turning off NPC voting people are still affected by NAPs, remember in older saves you
must also repeal any NAPs that had taken effect as they will not lose effect just because voting has stopped and it may take an in game day or two to see results. Then if you rotate households visit all of your played sims and delete the objects you don’t want.
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I also think a huge issue is that these NAPs are unbalanced and destructive. The sharing is caring NAP is destroying community lots and people are not happy on Answer HQ right now.
Me too, I am still having so many problems, did the steps nope didn't do a thing.
I wish I was as lucky to not have any problems.
Hahahaha I disabled it. My Sims were doing so many N.A.P. related things that I lost control. By the time I realized that you could shut the features off, my save was ruined. Turning it off after all that chaos began and then going to each place and disabling the NAPs that were in place didn't fix it. Out of desperation, I actually did a fresh install and disabled the N.A.P.s before I even started playing. Now I play in bliss. This was about a month ago.
My Plumbob is GREEN today
Does this problem keeps happening even if you started a new save with nap voting off from the beginning? Or it didn't got solved anyway?
It doesn't seem so. It looks for the most part like you can avoid NAP behavior if you turn off NPC voting before you start to play the save, because then it effectively shuts the NAPs off unless your active sim votes them in or you cheat them in.
I want it to stay industrial. In a new save I plopped down a Sim on a vacant lot and took the money away. It was Sunday 8 am. Just dumpster dove and the industrial footprint went neutral by 4 pm. Started a new save. Did the same thing but instead of playing I went and edited every lot so each lot had an industrial footprint. Nothing had a positive Eco rating. Put Sims in houses. Lit fireplaces and turned on generators. Even made the bar industrial. Took all plants from lots. Went to play and the footprint went neutral again by 4 pm.
It's not working! All NAPs are off. I gave up and and at first disabled the pack (James Turner Site) because I CAN! It needs to be fixed!
A couple of days later...
Wait, I paid $40 and I want the objects. So I put the pack back and turned off the footprint etc and pretend the new world does not exist.
About the constant notifications ... My toddler can not fabricate but everyone still get reminders in the middle of the night that they can take jobs.
Even if the NAPs were suppose to work they way they do it still does not explain why a kid turns into a contortionist (long arms and legs) when they pull out the new sketch pad from their pocket and try to use it. The sketch pad is not the inventory of the kid. What!
The patch that broke gardening! I have to work around that too!
Shall I go on ... NO! Believe what you want but Eco Lifestyle is broken for me! I can not use the pack the way it was advertised and presented to me. IT IS BROKEN!
But thing is, EL is broken. It’s not behaving the way it should and has become spammy. And I think that’s why it’s got such a bad rap. I only got to fully enjoy it because I have a whole mod folder dedicated to “fixing“ it.
The only problem I had was eco footprints was not pausing. I have a mod that works perfectly for that and I have really been enjoying the pack a lot.
Thanks for this maybe it will help other people! 😁
Oh. I have the cake bug. But I just eat it or throw it away lol not a big deal.
I was getting this, it was an outdated mod causing it. Try without your mods in.
I also disagree with this post as I'm very much enjoying the NAPs even if I've disabled the voting. Disabling the voting gives you control which NAPs you want in which neighbourhood. Random voting imo is not a major feature.
Updated with Werewolf Diaries (1)
http://forums.thesims.com/en_US/discussion/924539/features-that-needs-depth-and-ways-to-improve
I'm so very sorry I spent $40 on a broken EP that BROKE my builder sim!!!
This is why I haven't bought this pack. Why should I have to disable a major feature to enjoy a pack?
Same with the Eco Meter. It seems like it always is going to Neutral no matter what you do. And this hasn't been fixed either.
When two of the major features in your pack don't work correctly, then it's not worth the price!
Add to that all the bugs that are still not fixed.
It may not be technically "broken," but the features were implemented badly...
I'm so glad I haven't bought this pack!