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Take diving lots for example with Sims 3: routing was a plum because of the open world and the map makers not being given enough time to finalize the map before release, whereas sims 4 with Island living as an example, a diving lot was more than possible... There are open spaces between lots in the neighborhood, (which after getting used to is decent compromise tho not one I want to see continue into Sims 5) The Loading screens for each lot were supposed to cure the issues open world brought with Sims 3. Even if diving was still tied to a buoy they could have used that as a trigger to get to a 'hidden' diving lot, where you could find collectibles, befriend a mermaid, fight a Kraken, same with the cave on the island have it be a trigger for the diving lot.
To me, Sims 4 seems to be missed opportunity after missed opportunity. Not to say Sims 3 was perfect by any means, but they seemed to have missed fewer opportunities than sims 4, but then again I wasn't on the forums when Sims 3 was in its prime, and maybe back then players were pointing out ways gameplay could have been better.
But on topic with the post I really miss the traits having an impact on sims, I'm sure this has been said before but heres a comparason of the evil trait in 3 vs the one in 4:
I mean all the traits do is affect their emotion but it doesn't really seem to affect their autonomous behavior or what whims come up. And sure there were some traits that had less affect on sims such as book worm:
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I miss all of these things soooooo much, this just made me so sad
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AKA Doggers123
The EA people that make these games are continuously not putting them on there and must do it now cuz the items are needed!!!!🤨
Missing items are:
• Climbing frames!
• Slides!
• Cars!
• Lorry’s!
• Vans!
• Nursery buildings!
• Cinemas!
• Vender machines, money and toys for games and casino games!
• Telephone box!
• Extra retail clothes!
• Extra balconies!
• Stained glass doors!
• Stained glass windows!
• Extra jewellery piercings for the create a sim section!
• Tennis pitch!
• Football pitch!
• Rugby pitch!
• Squirls and other insects!
• Fire engine!
• Bus!
• Tractor!
• Farm yard!
• Sheep!
• Pigs!
• Cows!
• School bus!
• College bus!
All of those things are missing AND URGENTLY NEED TO BE ADDED!!!!!!🤨
Cars
Ocean swimming everywhere
Skill journal
Strolls and everything that came with generations
Pool bars and slides
Elevation platforms
Elevators
Spiral stairs
Teaching my teen to drive
Burglars and fire fighters
Cars..even teaching teens to drive
Apartments anywhere I want
Ocean swimming ANYWHERE even before island paradise.
Seasonal festivals. I really loved that. It really made the sims have a sense of community.
Loved some of my broke sims could go wash their clothes at the laundromat.
FOR THE LOVE OF GOD, I MISS MOST.....DANCING FACE TO FACE AND SLOW DANCING. I cannot believe this is still not in the game
Once you start looking at what's missing it just goes on and on and on. I could probably include a lot of points from people in this thread to make it larger still.
I don't want Sims 4 to be a copy of Sims 3 myself but you all have given Maxis a reason to prolong Sims 4 for several more years!
I really enjoy your graphical summaries. Thank you.
I can't wait to see the finished product.
It's not about The Sims 4 being a copy of any previous game, it's more about how depth that was present in earlier games and carried forward was suddenly dropped for 4. Like the gender preference system - it was in 2, developed further for 3, and isn't even in 4 to any degree. They just dropped it. Most of the points on there are elements of baseline quality that spanned 1, 2 and 3. 4 is missing so much of that and that's where you start getting complaints.
I don't want 4 to be a copy of previous games either. I do, however, want it to have at least a third as much depth. Seeing as it's been five years, however, I'm quite sure that it's too late for any of that to be added, they'd have to do an overhaul of the base game and that would in turn mean an overhaul of how every pack works. Can't see this team doing that when they can't add much smaller ideas like cars of spiral staircases.
Also, one point: TS3 had a lot of side content that was not an official pack but was a cash grab anyway - I remember worlds (which were the price of TS4 GP and probably should be counted as a DLC for this reason) and venues. TS4 sticks to 3 types of packs and the DLC count is not growing as much since the initial flow of stuff packs in 2015-2016 faded.
Yes, TS4 started in a bad state (no toddlers, very few careers, traits still have very low impact compared to TS3) but did TS3 have features added during its lifecycle the way it is these months with TS4? (freelancer patch, holiday pack with continuous additions each year, improved stair tools now, gardening and fishing updates even without a DLC) And that's not to mention TS3 was running very poorly with a few DLCs - massive save/load times and save files in GBs.
I am not dismissing the concerns/shortcomings of TS4 as there still are several issues and missing features but I don't think is as bad as some people say - and that TS3 had a lot of issues too.
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I don't understand the obsession with cars, especially as you can travel anywhere on the push of a button. Yes, it'd be a touch of realism but I'd rather see them work on something with more impact than to be just a decoration.
As for spiral stairs - that might not be as simple as it looks. Keep in mind that TS3 had fixed wall height and so it could be just a simple object. TS4 has three possible wall height and making spiral stairs flexible enough to work with this (let alone if you wanted to stack them on floors with different wall height) might not be as easy as people would wish it to be.
I also like wandering the hills.
Create a style
Cars
Open world
Bunk/Loft Beds
Hotels/resorts/hotels
Burglars/firefighters
kids getting caught by police
Make three different stair heights and make them stackable. Or, create stairs that can be extended, like the stairs that are present in the game now. Those are two solutions that I hope that they are working on or, at least, considering.
As for the TS3 store selling worlds at expansion prices, TS4 is basically doing the same thing. See: Sulani, San Myshuno, and Windenburg. Most of the time, when TS4 gets a new world, the world is usually the biggest feature. Everything else is secondary. Pets is the only exception that comes to mind. Any expansion that has truly substantive, game-changing features released without a world. See: Seasons.
TS3 did have long save times because it had a lot of information to process and to save. TS4 doesn't have that issue. NPCs do nothing in TS4 other than walk around and talk, always talking. TS3 NPCs lived independent lives and the game needed to keep track of that.
Back to the original question: I'd really, really like a picnic basket again. That has been in every previous game, I think? Certainly, it has been in TS2 and TS3. I would like to have a picnic scene. However, I really don't feel like scouring the web for poses or making my own. I'm getting really tired of pretending.
The point people are trying to make here is that Sims 4 is older than the previous games by now and it still doesn’t have as much to offer. They checked off many of the themes, but with less gameplay, less options, less depth in many cases. And the biggest problem is the fact the same goes for the basegame, the frame of the game. The foundation.
Only being able to travel by clicking a button is the problem for many players. That exactly defines it actually. It’s more than just decoration I assure you. Cars being just decoration in Sims 4 is what frustrates people. Cars weren’t just decoration in neither Sims 2 nor Sims 3 (be it in different ways).
ETA: “And that's not to mention TS3 was running very poorly with a few DLCs.”
As for bugs: so does Sims 4 apparently. And as for performance, I can honestly say I never had that problem.
Like, getting a normal plant up a level, waiting for it to bear fruit of a better quality (because you loved your plant), replanting the fruit for a higher level plant, and onwards and upwards...
It was fun and exciting, going out into the garden and getting a higher level fruit from your plant. The process was more involved than the sparkle effect thing we have now.
Lets make this a reality!
SIMS 4 MISSING ITEMS:
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* School bus!
* Tree house!
* Trampoline!
* Ducks!
* Duck pond!
* Birds!
* Loft ladder!
* House lofts!
* Garden shed!
* Administration departments!
* Sweet shop departments!
* Chocolate shop departments!
* Music shop departments!
* Retail supermarket departments!
* School departments!
* College departments!
* University departments!
* Church departments!
* Airport departments!
* Bakery departments!
* Salon beauty departments!
* Planes for travelling!
* Helicopters for travelling!
* Tractors for travelling!
* Vans for travelling!
* Cars for travelling!
* Lorries for travelling!
* Bikes for travelling!
* Motor bikes for travelling!
* Hot air balloon for travelling!
* Buses for travelling!
* Trains for travelling!
* Farm yard departments!
* Cinema departments!
* Farm yard jobs!
* Sheep!
* Pigs!
* Squirls!
* Insects!
* Rabbits!
* Cows!
* Deers! — Doe’s and stag’s
* Donkeys!
* Frogs!
* Fish!
* Cafe jobs!
* School uniform!
* Work uniform!
* Work customer assistant jobs!
* Work shop floor assistant jobs!
* Swimmer trainer jobs!
* Traffic lights!
* Hamsters!
* Hamster cages!
* Rabbit cages!
* Guinea pig cages!
* Cat beds!
* Dog beds!
* Barns!
* Hay for fields!
* Climbing frames!
* Pool slides!
* Mazes!
* Castle departments!
* Leisure centre departments!
* Car parks for all vehicles!
* Petrol station!
* Zebra crossings!
* Zoo!
* Safari park!
* Forest!
* Jungle!
* Mansion departments!
* Museum departments!
* Game shop departments!
* Phone shop departments!
* Clothe shop departments!
* Shoe shop departments!
* Jewellery shop departments!
* Buy a vehicle garage departments!
* Caves!
* Safari wild animals!
* Pirate ship!
* Boats!
* Harbour!
* Pirate suits!
* Club departments!
* Buy a pet departments!
* Dog leed!
* Cat leed!