Perhaps a stand alone game, a one off, criminal active career lol for us older simmers haha separate it from the series we know and love, still make the sims 5 in the future a teen rating, but this would be good as a stand alone game like for example the urbz or medieval
I would rather they keep the T-rating the game somehow has, it's more E for everyone as of right now. The sims series has always been about being cartoonish and the rating is still very much flexible so they can still add more mature themes. Like If I remember correctly in Sims Medieval (that was also T-rated) you could challenge a sim to a duel and straight up stab them with a sword and kill them (no blood of course) so there is still room for more violence.
Personally I would like some mature themes from older games returning though. Like being drunk or the ability to flip off other sims, that last one is fun.
I feel like the T rating has changed a lot It has become a lot more sheltered and stricter. I personally feel the Sims is too vanilla, which is why I turned to mods to make it more grown up, like call Woohoo, Nectar, and Plasma what they actually are! My sims don't get Flirty or very Flirty, They get Lustful and Passionate, They don't get "Very Sad" or "Very Angry" they get "Depressed" And "Furious." I think they should add more darker tones so when a Sim is Happy, it's actually meaningful. Like I get keeping the game light hearted and positive, but Negative and heavy dilemmas are fun too. A Problem I have is Evil Sims, Or sims who hate Children, aren't convincing to me.
I want Sass, Unapologetic and very honest about themselves with no shame and aware that they're evil and they revel in someone else's misery.
the Sims doesn't do that.
Don't go mature, literally just give us back what we had in Sims 1 & 2, a fun, lighthearted game with the occasional raunchy element, without it being too "stimulating" or whatever. I mean, Sims 1 had caged dancers and vibrating heart beds, and not too many people seemed to take issue with that. The world overall was still a (mostly) innocent one, and everything was equal, so what's the big deal of just going back to that? Even some of the woohoo or even make-out animations from Sims 2, they're nothing over-the-top but Sims 4 would NEVER because heavens forbid two fictional people get more passionate than a peck on the lips 🙄
The problem is not the rating at all, but the sanitization of anything even remotely off-color (and I wouldn't even call it so by my own standards but clearly EA disagrees...). The problem isn't the teen rating, but that they're trying to pander this game to children, when such a sizable portion of the existing fanbase is well into adulthood, and older. The problem is that they think Sims players (or the "ideal" Sims player I suppose) can't handle not even mature content, but mere allusions to mature content.
If Sims 5 went M, I'd definitely side-eye it and not really know what to think, but if it continues on this trend of making everything as "family friendly" as possible, HARD PASS 👀
I do think anything above a T rating should be DLC-only, and that DLC shouldn't contain much or anything that more family-friendly players would want.
Like if they want to release a Wicked-Whims-But-Official DLC (Get F***ed? lol), or Basemental-But-Official (Get Wrecked?) not sure I'd buy it because my style of gameplay doesn't call for it, but I am sure it'd sell like hotcakes and I have no problem with it existing and EA making money off of it and people who want it getting to incorporate that into their game. What would stink is if the cutest hair or clothes or furniture in the game was also behind that paywall.
Whether they do so with Sims 4 or Sims 5, if they DO ever go M for Mature, it should be entirely optional and skippable DLC, and anything with that DLC that isn't M for Mature should be available in a cheaper T-for-Teen Stuff Pack DLC.
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I don't see any need for TS4 for go above T rating, it would just be nice if it was closer to it and moved away somewhat for an E rating. However, I think it seems clear the team are catering more and more for a younger audience and don't care about their adult players.
All I want is the option for the game to not be so happy happy joy joy. I tried to make two rival gangs using the club system but my imagination can only go so far when they're all smiles and hugs with eachother.
I’m not too sure why people are still beating the dead horse in blaming the ESRB for TS4's neutered content. It reminds me of when WWE went PG (at least for American TV broadcast anyway), the common knee-jerk reaction was in form of blaming the TV-PG rating, despite the fact that the PG rating really wasn't an uncommon sight back then, even during the WWE's Attitude era where it featured more adult-oriented content. Hell, SmackDown was PG ever since its inception back in 1999. Other people criticised the WWE for making the show more family-friendly ever since 2008, which I personally find is more logical.
If anything, WWE's PG detractors and TS4's T-rating detractors are more or less climbing up the same tree. People kept blaming the T rating for TS4 despite the fact that the previous games featured more ‘family-unfriendly’ content yet obtained the same rating. Others suspected that the devs made TS4 cater to a younger demographic, unintentionally alienating the older part of the fanbase.
I feel like the T rating has changed a lot It has become a lot more sheltered and stricter. I personally feel the Sims is too vanilla, which is why I turned to mods to make it more grown up, like call Woohoo, Nectar, and Plasma what they actually are! My sims don't get Flirty or very Flirty, They get Lustful and Passionate, They don't get "Very Sad" or "Very Angry" they get "Depressed" And "Furious." I think they should add more darker tones so when a Sim is Happy, it's actually meaningful. Like I get keeping the game light hearted and positive, but Negative and heavy dilemmas are fun too. A Problem I have is Evil Sims, Or sims who hate Children, aren't convincing to me.
I want Sass, Unapologetic and very honest about themselves with no shame and aware that they're evil and they revel in someone else's misery.
the Sims doesn't do that.
I agree, why do they think there are so many mods out there, because people are so happy with the childishness? If they want T for teen people have sims4, sims3 etc. Why can't we have something more mature?
T was good enough for 2 and 3 and those games were full of a lot of cool scenarios. Sims 4 doesn't really seem to take full advantage of the T rating I believe.
T was good enough for 2 and 3 and those games were full of a lot of cool scenarios. Sims 4 doesn't really seem to take full advantage of the T rating I believe.
To me this is exactly it. TS4 is bland, the official rating may be T but the actuality is U. I don't want it to go 18, I want it to be teen. However I think the world in general has become more puritan and the US has always seemed to be stricter than we are in Europe. TS4 is fun, but it could be just a bit edgier and still come nowhere near breaking the rating guidelines for T. I don't want it to be explicit, smoking, getting drunk etc can stay as mods as far as I am concerned. But it would be nice for them to actually feel, have preferences for all sorts of things, just generally seem more alive.
Nope. Not that there's anything wrong with content that's rated above T but I think the base game and packs don't need to have content that's explicitly for adolts only. (and I'm by no means in the "think of the children" group that I see around the internet trying to water down everything, block and erase mature content from everywhere etc)
There are things that can still be included under the T rating and the fact that TS4 doesn't have them has nothing to do with the rating's restrictions. That said, as of now, while I see and understand what others are missing that would still fit within the boundaries of the T rating, they're not things I particularly miss in the game.
I mean...we had strippers coming out of cakes in sims1 and it was still rated T. The rating can stay, but I would like them to edge up the content in sims5 within that rating.
If I remember rightly, 'The Sims' had a some Simmers making some very adult stuff on their websites for it and I would prefer Sims 4 to remain at Teen level and leave it to those who want such mods and cc to get it themselves.
7 Deadly Sims was as far as I would go then, based on Pride, gluttony etc., nothing bad! If you can still play Sims 1 and could use the objects on your PC it's here. http://7deadlysims.com/sds
Titles rated T (Teen) have content that is generally suitable for ages 13 and up. May contain violence, suggestive themes, crude humor, minimal blood, simulated gambling, and/or infrequent use of strong language.
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I'd just like the game to be actually T for Teen as rated instead of E for Everyone, as it seems to me.
I agree with a lot of others here I dont want it to be explicit but it's the little things that make it a bit too childish. And I am quite childish myself .
Like one thing that bothers me is when I'm trying to imagine an evil vampire biting its victims. Then the victim falls to the floor with his butt in the air. It just looks so goofy it breaks the immersion. I just want them to fall like normal people.
I like the present rating - I just think the devs need less childish silliness - not a higher rating - as it would be unfair to a whole lot of people who presently play as well as all those who would want to play from watching their parents play. Over half the people in my family who play the Sims started playing as early as 11. The game is quite popular with pre-teens and teens - as most of simmers know - seeing many now say they were those ages when they started.
Why alienate all those people?
Then, more than request than TS4 maintain T rating, would be desiderable than Origin has not parental control
After all, who avoid play a M or A game if your account say you are T?
Origin parental control
I like the present rating - I just think the devs need less childish silliness - not a higher rating - as it would be unfair to a whole lot of people who presently play as well as all those who would want to play from watching their parents play. Over half the people in my family who play the Sims started playing as early as 11. The game is quite popular with pre-teens and teens - as most of simmers know - seeing many now say they were those ages when they started.
Why alienate all those people?
Then, more than request than TS4 maintain T rating, would be desiderable than Origin has not parental control
After all, who avoid play a M or A game if your account say you are T?
Origin parental control
So you would be happy knowing young people under 18 who had been playing the game for several years could no longer play it because they changed the rating. As that is what would happen. Several of my family members have their games under their parents account because they are not 18 yet. They cannot go to games rated M at all on those accounts even though their parents can. So there is parental control on Origin.
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I like the present rating - I just think the devs need less childish silliness - not a higher rating - as it would be unfair to a whole lot of people who presently play as well as all those who would want to play from watching their parents play. Over half the people in my family who play the Sims started playing as early as 11. The game is quite popular with pre-teens and teens - as most of simmers know - seeing many now say they were those ages when they started.
Why alienate all those people?
Then, more than request than TS4 maintain T rating, would be desiderable than Origin has not parental control
After all, who avoid play a M or A game if your account say you are T?
Origin parental control
So you would be happy knowing young people under 18 who had been playing the game for several years could no longer play it because they changed the rating. As that is what would happen. Several of my family members have their games under their parents account because they are not 18 yet. They cannot go to games rated M at all on those accounts even though their parents can. So there is parental control on Origin.
Ok, you replied before I can edit (but I will no edit, else reply now)
With T rating, there are options than cant be added to the game
Then the better way to other players still can play, would be if origin parental controls can accept exceptions so your parents allow you play TS5
After all, ESRB rating is to guide opinions, no a police
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Hmm... where is that thing I made years ago?
Oh! Here it is.
Personally I would like some mature themes from older games returning though. Like being drunk or the ability to flip off other sims, that last one is fun.
I want Sass, Unapologetic and very honest about themselves with no shame and aware that they're evil and they revel in someone else's misery.
the Sims doesn't do that.
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The problem is not the rating at all, but the sanitization of anything even remotely off-color (and I wouldn't even call it so by my own standards but clearly EA disagrees...). The problem isn't the teen rating, but that they're trying to pander this game to children, when such a sizable portion of the existing fanbase is well into adulthood, and older. The problem is that they think Sims players (or the "ideal" Sims player I suppose) can't handle not even mature content, but mere allusions to mature content.
If Sims 5 went M, I'd definitely side-eye it and not really know what to think, but if it continues on this trend of making everything as "family friendly" as possible, HARD PASS 👀
Like if they want to release a Wicked-Whims-But-Official DLC (Get F***ed? lol), or Basemental-But-Official (Get Wrecked?) not sure I'd buy it because my style of gameplay doesn't call for it, but I am sure it'd sell like hotcakes and I have no problem with it existing and EA making money off of it and people who want it getting to incorporate that into their game. What would stink is if the cutest hair or clothes or furniture in the game was also behind that paywall.
Whether they do so with Sims 4 or Sims 5, if they DO ever go M for Mature, it should be entirely optional and skippable DLC, and anything with that DLC that isn't M for Mature should be available in a cheaper T-for-Teen Stuff Pack DLC.
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If anything, WWE's PG detractors and TS4's T-rating detractors are more or less climbing up the same tree. People kept blaming the T rating for TS4 despite the fact that the previous games featured more ‘family-unfriendly’ content yet obtained the same rating. Others suspected that the devs made TS4 cater to a younger demographic, unintentionally alienating the older part of the fanbase.
I agree, why do they think there are so many mods out there, because people are so happy with the childishness? If they want T for teen people have sims4, sims3 etc. Why can't we have something more mature?
To me this is exactly it. TS4 is bland, the official rating may be T but the actuality is U. I don't want it to go 18, I want it to be teen. However I think the world in general has become more puritan and the US has always seemed to be stricter than we are in Europe. TS4 is fun, but it could be just a bit edgier and still come nowhere near breaking the rating guidelines for T. I don't want it to be explicit, smoking, getting drunk etc can stay as mods as far as I am concerned. But it would be nice for them to actually feel, have preferences for all sorts of things, just generally seem more alive.
There are things that can still be included under the T rating and the fact that TS4 doesn't have them has nothing to do with the rating's restrictions. That said, as of now, while I see and understand what others are missing that would still fit within the boundaries of the T rating, they're not things I particularly miss in the game.
7 Deadly Sims was as far as I would go then, based on Pride, gluttony etc., nothing bad! If you can still play Sims 1 and could use the objects on your PC it's here. http://7deadlysims.com/sds
Titles rated T (Teen) have content that is generally suitable for ages 13 and up. May contain violence, suggestive themes, crude humor, minimal blood, simulated gambling, and/or infrequent use of strong language.
Titles rated E (Everyone) have content that is generally suitable for all ages. May contain minimal cartoon, fantasy or mild violence and/or infrequent use of mild language.
Titles rated E10+ (Everyone 10 and older) have content that is generally suitable for ages 10 and up. May contain more cartoon, fantasy or mild violence, mild language and/or minimal suggestive themes.
I'd just like the game to be actually T for Teen as rated instead of E for Everyone, as it seems to me.
Like one thing that bothers me is when I'm trying to imagine an evil vampire biting its victims. Then the victim falls to the floor with his butt in the air. It just looks so goofy it breaks the immersion. I just want them to fall like normal people.
Then, more than request than TS4 maintain T rating, would be desiderable than Origin has not parental control
After all, who avoid play a M or A game if your account say you are T?
Origin parental control
So you would be happy knowing young people under 18 who had been playing the game for several years could no longer play it because they changed the rating. As that is what would happen. Several of my family members have their games under their parents account because they are not 18 yet. They cannot go to games rated M at all on those accounts even though their parents can. So there is parental control on Origin.
"Games Are Not The Place To Tell Stories, Games Are Meant To Let People Tell Their Own Stories"...Will Wright.
In dreams - I LIVE!
In REALITY, I simply exist.....
Ok, you replied before I can edit (but I will no edit, else reply now)
With T rating, there are options than cant be added to the game
Then the better way to other players still can play, would be if origin parental controls can accept exceptions so your parents allow you play TS5
After all, ESRB rating is to guide opinions, no a police