Speak for yourself. Personally, I'm thrilled that apartments are restricted to one city. It makes them all the more important!
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We have a small amount of space in our worlds now like I said before. I have ran out of space already. So even if we could build them it would be no where to put them. They need to give us bigger worlds with 50 lots or more to have enough room to exspand. The small world's they give us do not help. And there is no room to do anything.
I couldn't agree with you MORE on every single sentence you wrote here, @Lustianicia.
This freaking news about restriction on building apartments is just so extremely disappointing!!!!
AND A LOADING SCREEN ??? SERIOUSLY!!!????????????????????????????????????
OH MY GOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I wish it was just my nightmare!!!
What is all this mess?
I can't believe all of these ... I can't take it anymore!
Just about two days ago, I was very much excited about City Living and now what?
Their ideas about a loading screen and restriction are too dumb.
Why are they doing this ?? I won't waste my money on that mess!!
(On the bright side, I can save ma money, lol But this is not the point here!!)
The mess is called Sims 4. It should be called Sims blast from the past because we've went back into a time warp to Sims 1,
Lol I don't think we can even call it this as even Sims 1 has some basic things Sims 4 doesn't. I'm still excited for the pack but it is a little disappointing of the limitations. I wish we could have both. It'd be cool to have the high rise shell buildings like Sims 3 and then the more standard apartments where you can see everyone like in Sims 2 together.
is building an apartment by the player a difficult task for the developers?
Well, if you can't do it then DONT do it. People has been asking for functional apartments since the TS3 days. they want the freedom to build apartments anywhere the style they want. We did not ask for shells.
Is that too complex or difficult to understand?
Apartments are a lot more than things to build. Why should nonbuilders have to give up apartment-related gameplay just because builders can't build them from scratch? Why should those of us who don't mind loading screens for neighbours (which we already have) have to give up apartment gameplay because people who already play with loading screens (assuming those people play Sims 4) don't want them there? Builders are not the whole player base. People who hate loading screens are not the whole player base.
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Back at it again with the bashing...
I'm in love with this new apartment system, don't ruin it for those who actually like it by bashing, bash, bash.
Some people are disappointed and have every right to be just like you like the apartments. You are entitled to your opinion and others are entitled to theirs.
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I'm hoping that maybe high-rises will be available in debug like in 3, even if the lot type can't be set to "Apartment" in other towns, or vice versa ("Apartment" lot type, but no high-rises.)
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So... the developers have (once again) done the complete opposite of what fans actually wanted... In the upcoming City Life expansion pack, players will NOT be able to build their own apartments. They will be exclusive to the new world introduced in the pack...
Not only that, but they continue making it worse by insisting that a loading screen must be required in order to visit your neighbor in the SAME apartment building...
In Sims 2, it was completely possible to build your own apartments... In Sims 3, it was a bit frustrating to do it, but at least it was possible! Not only that, but even Sims 2 did NOT have a loading screen when you wanted to visit your neighbor. That's the saddest and most pathetic part of this! It's really disturbing how a game created over a decade ago is more advanced than a game in 2016.
This was honestly just laziness on the developers' part. This is extremely disappointing... especially since many fans (like myself) have wanted apartments... we wanted to BUILD them! This is just more evidence that the developers simply don't care about what we have to say. They keep ignoring us.
How did you determine what fans actually wanted?
In city life, players will be able to build their own apartments however they will not be able to build them in other worlds (obviously due to the new lot/venue types and apartment-related functions which aren't compatible with the old world data). Apartments must be loaded separately since each residence is associated with a unique lot/zone ID and it isn't possible to load all neighboring lot and household data with one zone.
The Sims 4 is very clearly and demonstrably the most advanced version to date.
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Speak for yourself. Personally, I'm thrilled that apartments are restricted to one city. It makes them all the more important!
Dude, if you think EA is going to send you a new copy of the EP or make you a SimGuru for being "absolutely thrilled" by them breathing then don't waste your time (keystrokes)
Yay I love restrictions! Yay I love my gameplay being controlled as I throw away my money! The developers/EA can never do any harm! etc..
If they release a patch removing the ability to travel to different worlds you'd be okay with it too...<-<
Let see Sims 4 is very clearly and demonstrably the most advanced version to date, had a good laugh about that.
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Apartments are a lot more than things to build. Why should nonbuilders have to give up apartment-related gameplay just because builders can't build them from scratch? Why should those of us who don't mind loading screens for neighbours (which we already have) have to give up apartment gameplay because people who already play with loading screens (assuming those people play Sims 4) don't want them there? Builders are not the whole player base. People who hate loading screens are not the whole player base.
Agree!
The loading screens are what I would expect as well. It works the exact same way now with neighborhoods - you can walk up to a neighbor's house but can't go inside without a loading screen. Logically it makes perfect sense. The loading screens are so short they don't bother me anyway.
I've never played apartments in TS2 and rarely did in 3 so I don't have much of an opinion of building them. But I do think the apartment traits are cool and I like all interactions with neighbors they showed in this video: https://www.thesims.com/en_GB/news/sims-4-city-living-apartments
Everytime I come to the forums there is always so much negativity and complaining. I dont recall seeing anywhere that you can't build your own apartments, just that apartment structure can't be modified.
I assume that in the expansion it is probably possible to build apartments, even assign traits, landlord, etc. But the final apartment in build mode via game play can't be modified.
I don't KNOW if that's true, but that's what I assumed. It's not always the worst case scenario. I'm excited for City Life. I LOVED all of Get Together's new features and the control it gave me over my sims and their relationships.
I think apartments with pests will make cool story things, and it would be awesome if we could assign those traits to houses.
If you don't think you'll like the EP, why not just not buy it. If EA makes no money they'll know not to make the EP's that have those kind of features. But just because you disn't get the features you wanted, doesn't mean EA isn't listening to their fans. They can't listen to everyone. And I really don't like defending EA but looking at these forums be a whine fest everyday with players who think they are entitled to everything they ask for in an EP is just getting on my nerves.
the sims 4 keep impressing me with the limitations it have
at least good with one thing
Lmao
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With how fixed lots are already, can't say that I'm shocked. Like I've mentioned before, base game mechanics will effect packs and this is proof of that. I'm pretty sure some modder will figure out a way to combat it. I am actually curious if the free build cheat can bypass it or not, so I hope that others test that out. Don't know why the room moodlet system is being expanded when it has too strong issues as it is.
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So... the developers have (once again) done the complete opposite of what fans actually wanted... In the upcoming City Life expansion pack, players will NOT be able to build their own apartments. They will be exclusive to the new world introduced in the pack...
Not only that, but they continue making it worse by insisting that a loading screen must be required in order to visit your neighbor in the SAME apartment building...
In Sims 2, it was completely possible to build your own apartments... In Sims 3, it was a bit frustrating to do it, but at least it was possible! Not only that, but even Sims 2 did NOT have a loading screen when you wanted to visit your neighbor. That's the saddest and most pathetic part of this! It's really disturbing how a game created over a decade ago is more advanced than a game in 2016.
This was honestly just laziness on the developers' part. This is extremely disappointing... especially since many fans (like myself) have wanted apartments... we wanted to BUILD them! This is just more evidence that the developers simply don't care about what we have to say. They keep ignoring us.
How did you determine what fans actually wanted?
In city life, players will be able to build their own apartments however they will not be able to build them in other worlds (obviously due to the new lot/venue types and apartment-related functions which aren't compatible with the old world data). Apartments must be loaded separately since each residence is associated with a unique lot/zone ID and it isn't possible to load all neighboring lot and household data with one zone.
The Sims 4 is very clearly and demonstrably the most advanced version to date.
Yes, you can build your own apartments (in other worlds) but they will not function the way City Living apartments will function.
Everytime I come to the forums there is always so much negativity and complaining. I dont recall seeing anywhere that you can't build your own apartments, just that apartment structure can't be modified.
I assume that in the expansion it is probably possible to build apartments, even assign traits, landlord, etc. But the final apartment in build mode via game play can't be modified.
I don't KNOW if that's true, but that's what I assumed. It's not always the worst case scenario. I'm excited for City Life. I LOVED all of Get Together's new features and the control it gave me over my sims and their relationships.
I think apartments with pests will make cool story things, and it would be awesome if we could assign those traits to houses.
If you don't think you'll like the EP, why not just not buy it. If EA makes no money they'll know not to make the EP's that have those kind of features. But just because you disn't get the features you wanted, doesn't mean EA isn't listening to their fans. They can't listen to everyone. And I really don't like defending EA but looking at these forums be a whine fest everyday with players who think they are entitled to everything they ask for in an EP is just getting on my nerves.
Hi @PandaPillow there is a post here with link to even more gurus tweets
So... the developers have (once again) done the complete opposite of what fans actually wanted... In the upcoming City Life expansion pack, players will NOT be able to build their own apartments. They will be exclusive to the new world introduced in the pack...
Not only that, but they continue making it worse by insisting that a loading screen must be required in order to visit your neighbor in the SAME apartment building...
In Sims 2, it was completely possible to build your own apartments... In Sims 3, it was a bit frustrating to do it, but at least it was possible! Not only that, but even Sims 2 did NOT have a loading screen when you wanted to visit your neighbor. That's the saddest and most pathetic part of this! It's really disturbing how a game created over a decade ago is more advanced than a game in 2016.
This was honestly just laziness on the developers' part. This is extremely disappointing... especially since many fans (like myself) have wanted apartments... we wanted to BUILD them! This is just more evidence that the developers simply don't care about what we have to say. They keep ignoring us.
How did you determine what fans actually wanted?
In city life, players will be able to build their own apartments however they will not be able to build them in other worlds (obviously due to the new lot/venue types and apartment-related functions which aren't compatible with the old world data). Apartments must be loaded separately since each residence is associated with a unique lot/zone ID and it isn't possible to load all neighboring lot and household data with one zone.
The Sims 4 is very clearly and demonstrably the most advanced version to date.
Yes, you can build your own apartments (in other worlds) but they will not function the way City Living apartments will function.
Is this coming from EA/Maxis or rumored like everything else. and if so is there a link?
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Back at it again with the bashing...
I'm in love with this new apartment system, don't ruin it for those who actually like it by bashing, bash, bash.
From my observation, the ones who complain the loudest tend to not buy content anyway. The rest of us can judge for ourselves on release day.
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My sarcasm detector has gone haywire - do I need to re-calibrate
Shake dreams from your hair
My pretty child, my sweet one.
Choose the day and choose the sign of your day
The day's divinity....
The Ghost Song - Jim Morrison
This freaking news about restriction on building apartments is just so extremely disappointing!!!!
AND A LOADING SCREEN ??? SERIOUSLY!!!????????????????????????????????????
OH MY GOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I wish it was just my nightmare!!!
What is all this mess?
I can't believe all of these ... I can't take it anymore!
Just about two days ago, I was very much excited about City Living and now what?
Their ideas about a loading screen and restriction are too dumb.
Why are they doing this ?? I won't waste my money on that mess!!
(On the bright side, I can save ma money, lol
True, Sims 1 was actually pretty fun
..... Then give those tools to the players so they can build their own????
Was that not brought up?!
I'm in love with this new apartment system, don't ruin it for those who actually like it by bashing, bash, bash.
Apartments are a lot more than things to build. Why should nonbuilders have to give up apartment-related gameplay just because builders can't build them from scratch? Why should those of us who don't mind loading screens for neighbours (which we already have) have to give up apartment gameplay because people who already play with loading screens (assuming those people play Sims 4) don't want them there? Builders are not the whole player base. People who hate loading screens are not the whole player base.
How did you determine what fans actually wanted?
In city life, players will be able to build their own apartments however they will not be able to build them in other worlds (obviously due to the new lot/venue types and apartment-related functions which aren't compatible with the old world data). Apartments must be loaded separately since each residence is associated with a unique lot/zone ID and it isn't possible to load all neighboring lot and household data with one zone.
The Sims 4 is very clearly and demonstrably the most advanced version to date.
Dude, if you think EA is going to send you a new copy of the EP or make you a SimGuru for being "absolutely thrilled" by them breathing then don't waste your time (keystrokes)
Yay I love restrictions! Yay I love my gameplay being controlled as I throw away my money! The developers/EA can never do any harm! etc..
If they release a patch removing the ability to travel to different worlds you'd be okay with it too...<-<
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Agree!
The loading screens are what I would expect as well. It works the exact same way now with neighborhoods - you can walk up to a neighbor's house but can't go inside without a loading screen. Logically it makes perfect sense. The loading screens are so short they don't bother me anyway.
I've never played apartments in TS2 and rarely did in 3 so I don't have much of an opinion of building them. But I do think the apartment traits are cool and I like all interactions with neighbors they showed in this video: https://www.thesims.com/en_GB/news/sims-4-city-living-apartments
I assume that in the expansion it is probably possible to build apartments, even assign traits, landlord, etc. But the final apartment in build mode via game play can't be modified.
I don't KNOW if that's true, but that's what I assumed. It's not always the worst case scenario. I'm excited for City Life. I LOVED all of Get Together's new features and the control it gave me over my sims and their relationships.
I think apartments with pests will make cool story things, and it would be awesome if we could assign those traits to houses.
If you don't think you'll like the EP, why not just not buy it. If EA makes no money they'll know not to make the EP's that have those kind of features. But just because you disn't get the features you wanted, doesn't mean EA isn't listening to their fans. They can't listen to everyone. And I really don't like defending EA but looking at these forums be a whine fest everyday with players who think they are entitled to everything they ask for in an EP is just getting on my nerves.
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Yes, you can build your own apartments (in other worlds) but they will not function the way City Living apartments will function.
Hi @PandaPillow there is a post here with link to even more gurus tweets
http://forums.thesims.com/en_US/discussion/comment/15216553/#Comment_15216553
Lots of info there including the fact that City Living apartments can not be build from the ground up, they can be modified though.
“Instead of putting players in the role of Luke Skywalker, or Frodo Baggins, I'd rather put them in the role of George Lucas.”Will Wright.
From my observation, the ones who complain the loudest tend to not buy content anyway. The rest of us can judge for ourselves on release day.