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Sexual Orientation / Gender Preference EP.
NoTalent
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I recently began playing a legacy challenge, strictly patriarchy, and I realised, rather late, mind, that having male Sims that are just breeding machines (God, I’m so inhumane), will not work and was ‘dulling’ the experience. Now, I had twins and that meant I had a spare Sim that I could do whatever I liked. So, I set off and took poor little Nicholas, who was now a Young Adult (time skip, of course) out to a club and had him mingle with the local crowd. All the woman were ugly and I didn’t want ugly children, so I turned my attention towards the lads in the club, who were dancing awkwardly, trying to get dates or something, I have no idea.
Nicholas, bless him, found a boyfriend quickly after that and the two hit it off well and before you knew it, they were doing things behind locked doors—as such, there’s a time in a man’s life where he needs things—his brother, Aaron, was a failure and still hadn’t got a girlfriend, despite my meddling and an arranged marriage, which I forced…
Alright, enough of a story and onto my point. Nicholas was gay. He had no romantic relationships with females at all. So imagine my shock when some crazed lady of the night dares kiss him on the lips while I was searching the club for the person I was stalking. Outraged, I forced him to tell her to get lost (I threw in a couple of insults, as well), but the damage was done. Nicholas had his first kiss with a female, something he shouldn’t have done as he was GAY!
I had this idea ages ago, back in the Sims 3. I was never able to actually make a thread on this site, which actually infuriates and triggers me, still to this day.
There’ll be four new options regarding this EP, two aren’t new and won’t offer much, but I like to think that the two have been slightly fleshed out and will be nice to have added. The options are: heterosexual, homosexual, bisexual, and asexual. Each preference will have an impact on socialisation and have a few new interactions that can be performed.
Heterosexual Sims! General!
> Has the option to ask Sims what their preference is. (May fail or seen as rude if friendship is to low).
> You may set a Sim’s preference in CAS.
> Romantic actions with the same gender (or opposite) have a chance to change your sexuality.
> All NPC’s will have preferences—some’ll be married and purely straight, unable to be swayed to batting for the same team.
{I was debating about various mean actions which could prematurely ‘out’ a Sim or gossip about other Sim’s sexualities.}
Homosexual Sims!
> ‘Romantic’ advances from the opposite gender will fail and the relationship will suffer heavy loss for the lack of concern. All autonomous romantic actions will be rejected, except for minor flirting and things like that. The initiator of the action will get an ‘Embarrassed’ moodlet, which will last for three hours. Alternatively, if the player initiates the kiss, the Sim you’re controlling will get a ‘Confused’ moodlet.
> A homosexual Sim will not autonomously do any ‘Romantic’ options with the opposite gender.
> A Sim will gain a ‘Closeted’ moodlet, which shows them as knowing their sexuality, but no one else knowing. Over time this will increase more and more, often making your Sim frustrated or sad (?).
> Once a Sim discovers their sexuality, they can ‘come out’ to their parents or friends. After a few heartfelt words and a hug (or group hug) the Sim will gain the ‘Accepted’ moodlet for twenty-four hours. They’ll feel rather brave and confident after the whole experience.
{I was debating about having the ‘come out’ process go badly, which would put the Sim in a near hysterical state and harshly destroy the relationship between the two Sims. I debated against it as bigotry is petty and has no place in the Sims.}
> Parents will gain a ‘Proud’ moodlet when their son/daughter ‘comes out’ to them.
Bisexual Sims!
> Same as heterosexual, except they also have the ‘come out’ option with parents.
Asexual Sims!
> All ‘Romantic’ advances will fail on this Sim, who is clearly not interested in any romantic ventures. The asexual Sim will grant a ‘Bored’ moodlet, while the other Sim will gain an ‘Embarrassed’ moodlet.
> WooHoo is unsatisfying for this Sim and makes him/her uncomfortable.
> Adoption will make this Sim highly happy, giving them a moodlet that claims that all the hassle of having children was avoided.
> This Sim cannot try for a baby.
This thread is a WIP, but you get the general idea, and I’ll be adding and removing ideas, all left somewhere on the thread, of course. I’d like to hear some feedback, though.
Nicholas, bless him, found a boyfriend quickly after that and the two hit it off well and before you knew it, they were doing things behind locked doors—as such, there’s a time in a man’s life where he needs things—his brother, Aaron, was a failure and still hadn’t got a girlfriend, despite my meddling and an arranged marriage, which I forced…
Alright, enough of a story and onto my point. Nicholas was gay. He had no romantic relationships with females at all. So imagine my shock when some crazed lady of the night dares kiss him on the lips while I was searching the club for the person I was stalking. Outraged, I forced him to tell her to get lost (I threw in a couple of insults, as well), but the damage was done. Nicholas had his first kiss with a female, something he shouldn’t have done as he was GAY!
I had this idea ages ago, back in the Sims 3. I was never able to actually make a thread on this site, which actually infuriates and triggers me, still to this day.
There’ll be four new options regarding this EP, two aren’t new and won’t offer much, but I like to think that the two have been slightly fleshed out and will be nice to have added. The options are: heterosexual, homosexual, bisexual, and asexual. Each preference will have an impact on socialisation and have a few new interactions that can be performed.
Heterosexual Sims! General!
> Has the option to ask Sims what their preference is. (May fail or seen as rude if friendship is to low).
> You may set a Sim’s preference in CAS.
> Romantic actions with the same gender (or opposite) have a chance to change your sexuality.
> All NPC’s will have preferences—some’ll be married and purely straight, unable to be swayed to batting for the same team.
{I was debating about various mean actions which could prematurely ‘out’ a Sim or gossip about other Sim’s sexualities.}
Homosexual Sims!
> ‘Romantic’ advances from the opposite gender will fail and the relationship will suffer heavy loss for the lack of concern. All autonomous romantic actions will be rejected, except for minor flirting and things like that. The initiator of the action will get an ‘Embarrassed’ moodlet, which will last for three hours. Alternatively, if the player initiates the kiss, the Sim you’re controlling will get a ‘Confused’ moodlet.
> A homosexual Sim will not autonomously do any ‘Romantic’ options with the opposite gender.
> A Sim will gain a ‘Closeted’ moodlet, which shows them as knowing their sexuality, but no one else knowing. Over time this will increase more and more, often making your Sim frustrated or sad (?).
> Once a Sim discovers their sexuality, they can ‘come out’ to their parents or friends. After a few heartfelt words and a hug (or group hug) the Sim will gain the ‘Accepted’ moodlet for twenty-four hours. They’ll feel rather brave and confident after the whole experience.
{I was debating about having the ‘come out’ process go badly, which would put the Sim in a near hysterical state and harshly destroy the relationship between the two Sims. I debated against it as bigotry is petty and has no place in the Sims.}
> Parents will gain a ‘Proud’ moodlet when their son/daughter ‘comes out’ to them.
Bisexual Sims!
> Same as heterosexual, except they also have the ‘come out’ option with parents.
Asexual Sims!
> All ‘Romantic’ advances will fail on this Sim, who is clearly not interested in any romantic ventures. The asexual Sim will grant a ‘Bored’ moodlet, while the other Sim will gain an ‘Embarrassed’ moodlet.
> WooHoo is unsatisfying for this Sim and makes him/her uncomfortable.
> Adoption will make this Sim highly happy, giving them a moodlet that claims that all the hassle of having children was avoided.
> This Sim cannot try for a baby.
This thread is a WIP, but you get the general idea, and I’ll be adding and removing ideas, all left somewhere on the thread, of course. I’d like to hear some feedback, though.
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I had also made a same sex couple and it turned out one of them was a real dog. He had a live in boyfriend, another guy on the side and also had relationships with three or four ladies in town and had about 7 or 8 kids.
For my Sims it's always been the heart wants what the heart wants and I let them have it.
EP = Expansion pack. This would be expanding the game and would thus be considered an EP. I'm also glad that you didn't read my thread at all. Please go back and read it and I may take your post into consideration.
What an excellent observation! WHy should EA releas eany packs at all when it can all be done by modders! You're a genius! I'm sure EA will thank you later for saving them pointless work when they can just toss it at modders to do. Get off my thread.
I love that no one even read the thread, as you'd see the option to REMAIN STRAIGHT IS STILL THERE AND IF YOU HAD THE BRAIN FUNCTION TO READ YOU WOULD REALISE THAT.
Your post is highly confusing as it come soff as not supporting, but supporting at the same time. Your wording is horrendous. Thanks for the support, I guess.
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If you think no one is reading your idea maybe there is a reason for it.
I completely get where you're coming from, as I have quite a few LGBT+ sims in my game and I would LOVE an official EA released way to authentically set my sims stories the way I want to play. It's a good idea to release in maybe a patch (like the trans update). But you've gotta look at the reality, and in reality, this probably won't be a thing. Maybe because it's still a bit of a bumpy subject and way too targeted. Even with the new trans update. The sims team never OFFICIALLY mentioned the words "trans" or other, but kind just beat around the bush because it was kind of obvious all simmers knew what it was.
My best advice would be to maybe shoot your idea to a really good modder such as DeaderPool or Zerbu? Creator of Go To School, and a few other REALLY good, almost official seeming mods. Even though he's taken hiatus for a bit, but he's really good at putting things like this together and might be able to make it happen!
But, on another note, you've gotta work on that 'tude, sweets. I agree that LGBT+ features would be h3lla rad, but bashing other people for even taking the time to reply to your thread? Gotta chill.
Anyway, if you don't feel like waiting for modders or EA to catch up with your wants & needs and want something as a quick fix?
Try this mod: http://modthesims.info/download.php?t=576385
It's really good, and you could always submit ideas to the creator to expand on it.
And, I have to agree that this is far too little and probably too polarizing for an EP.
I can not say your wording is the ideal either, but yes, i am supporting the idea, you are not the first to really came out with it.
There are also quite a few gay men that I know who get handsy with women when drunk, so maybe that is what happened to your sim? You could have made it a story, but you blew up in outrage, just like how you blew up on everyone here.
I also agree with the others, that this would have to be an update and not an EP. There is no one out there who would spend that much money for something so small.
Gender Preference mod
http://modthesims.info/download.php?t=576385
The way the mod works is default sims have 0 preference for either gender. As you do romantic relations with any gender you slowly increase that bar up to 100 and failed interactions decrease it. This mod let's you erase any built preference, set preference for both, male, female, or none. It's also not a brick wall mod so your sim may randomly flirt with a sim of the same gender and in the event something happens that you don't like, the Guru's added the "let's be friends" chat option which resets romantic relations to 0 between sims.
On top of that, just by virtue of including this kind of stuff is asking for trouble. The great thing about The Sims playing things so neutral is that it avoids controversy. How? Players see options as a mechanic of the game and not anything else. So, for example, say that two sims from the same sex fall in love. Players just shrug their shoulders and go, "Oh, that's just the game being random." But if you were to actually add an orientation as a feature in CAS, people would have a conniption fit and rant about how The Sims has an agenda and is shoving it down their throats.
Besides, there's no need for it to be included in the game, anyway. Like @Mizz_Creative48 said, you can use mods for that kind of stuff.
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