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The Sims 4 six months on...
king_of_simcity7
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So today marks the big day, a half year anniversary of The Sims 4, the game that was promoted as being the biggest and boldest game of last year, the game that was going to be the biggest and boldest Sims game ever!
This game was going to be all about the attitude, the humour, the charm, everything that the 'buggy mess' that TS3 was not, a real Sims game with soul that was going the break new ground in the world of Simming supported with the new emotion system and smarter Sims that this time, you really can connect to!
However, that was the dream, the vision, their vision, the game went off to a rocky start, some stood by it, a few believed that it would get better. There was no pools and no toddlers, no Open World, CASt, less NPCs and the gameplay method had changed from sandbox to goal orinated.
Over the few months, some new content appeared, pools where patched back in, some new careers emerged and a new 'Game Pack' had hit the shelves (in the form of DLC) and now there is talk over the first actual EP, yet criticism still surrounds the forums and the community, Simmers are as unhappy and sceptical than ever, the game that was going to be 'so much better' than the old TS3 has proven to be in it's shadow, a new game is in the shadow of it's predecessor. TS3 turns out, was not so much of a 'buggy mess' after all and has even grown in popularity while other have gone back to TS2 and even TS1 (happy 15th Bday)
So what has happened to The Sims? Where is the hype, the OMG moments, the 'wow' moments? Where is the wow factor? The X factor? What has happened in the last year of development?
Why has, for the first time in living history, a Sim game has disappointed people? Sure the old games had a degree of disappointment, but that was a smaller minority, why is it now that a game that was going to be so big, has ended up being over shadowed by games that are 5, 10 or even 15 years old than itself? Why has this happened and what is the future?
Discuss nicely please, we should all have our opinions heard fairly.
This game was going to be all about the attitude, the humour, the charm, everything that the 'buggy mess' that TS3 was not, a real Sims game with soul that was going the break new ground in the world of Simming supported with the new emotion system and smarter Sims that this time, you really can connect to!
However, that was the dream, the vision, their vision, the game went off to a rocky start, some stood by it, a few believed that it would get better. There was no pools and no toddlers, no Open World, CASt, less NPCs and the gameplay method had changed from sandbox to goal orinated.
Over the few months, some new content appeared, pools where patched back in, some new careers emerged and a new 'Game Pack' had hit the shelves (in the form of DLC) and now there is talk over the first actual EP, yet criticism still surrounds the forums and the community, Simmers are as unhappy and sceptical than ever, the game that was going to be 'so much better' than the old TS3 has proven to be in it's shadow, a new game is in the shadow of it's predecessor. TS3 turns out, was not so much of a 'buggy mess' after all and has even grown in popularity while other have gone back to TS2 and even TS1 (happy 15th Bday)
So what has happened to The Sims? Where is the hype, the OMG moments, the 'wow' moments? Where is the wow factor? The X factor? What has happened in the last year of development?
Why has, for the first time in living history, a Sim game has disappointed people? Sure the old games had a degree of disappointment, but that was a smaller minority, why is it now that a game that was going to be so big, has ended up being over shadowed by games that are 5, 10 or even 15 years old than itself? Why has this happened and what is the future?
Discuss nicely please, we should all have our opinions heard fairly.
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Sounds like quite an EP, but, no toddlers?
Toddlers will arrive in time when a Family-related expansion is released - possibly in that expansion's patch.
Sorry should add a comment about the TS4, I have had more enjoyable moments with this game so far than I had in total with TS3. Things they do make me giggle. The autonomous things that happen with non controlled sims make me
I am waiting excitedly for the first EP, something that has not happened since TS2.
Things I am not so happy about: toddlers, lack of lots, emotions not working properly. These three things can be fixed/added and I am hopeful they will be, soon.
You post this same exact comment on every other thread.
Anyways, TS3 is still more buggy than 4.
And I'd say there's been a lot less complaints than before. Maybe not a lot, but less.
But hear me out please.
EA made a similar mistake a few years back. After superb DA:O they made pathetic and disappointing DA2. And last year, just a couple of months after Sims 4, DA3 was released and that's one spectacular game.
So make no mistake. You can't make every title a smashhit and sometimes the game won't be as good as it should.
We'll get Sims 5 eventually and I bet we'll all love it!
About DLC Colton is mentioning... MMO craze is over. EA already cancelled Shadow Realms. Soon DLC craze will be dead too. So don't count on DLC fixing the main game problems.
But first we need a great game. If a game is great, then and only then people will want more of that stuff. We need Sims 5 ASAP.
So you now have to pay for something that should have been in the base game?
Different play styles I guess, I still get wow moments even to this very day!
I guess we will have to agree to disagree, TS3 has few issues for me but I feel there is a lot more they can do with TS4 for it to be at base game standards
when you add in everything together that's quite a lot of work that right now for the next 5 years i dont think they will do.
I think what probably will happen is they'll see how sales go when the first expansion comes, if they win over some fans with that and if they don't they'll decide if they need to focus on putting the content players want in the game or sticking the the newer direction they wanted to go.
I'll hold off my money either way because right now im not feeling sims 4 it just can't live up to my expectations and i gotta see more than just limitations and the answer no when the other two games sims 2 and 3 both give me a yes.
It's like they created the game somewhere in the early 2000s. They couldn't deliver properly because they got caught up in trying to do a sims social, and something "new" and modern, something totally different.
I like the game. I wish I had more time to play it. I've been wishing that all day, and popping in here between bouts of work hasn't helped. I suspect that there's less disappointment out there than these forums make it feel like. I've been seeing lots more positive comment from new members here lately too.
Things are fine. Games you don't like aren't so much fun, but games you do are, and now there are more Sims flavours to choose from. It's all good.
With the patch, you get toddlers with no cost - you get the basic supplements for toddlers - some toys, clothes, and all that; if you want to have more toddler stuff, that is what the expansion is for.
The Sims 5 will be either very good, or very poor, so lets wait until 2019 and see what happens
Well said
Agreed 100%
You shouldn't have to buy dlc, expansions, and etc to better a base game. The base game should stand on its own. The dlc/expansions should add extra life to a game..more play... not fix an incomplete game.
The future? Not sure. Guess it depends if you want to reward the developers for handing out an incomplete game and buy dlc/expansions to make it a bit more complete. It will take some heavy coding and reworking to make this game more than a single sim game..
I never said TS4 didn't have any issues, I'm just saying that EA has been helping it get better, but there's still a lot that needs to be fixed. If EA continues fixing things at the rate it has been, then I'm fine, as long they keep on fixing things.
And all the TS4 lovers said that once the first EP comes out it will be different, yet the EP has been announced and the hype is as dead as these forums. If it continues like this, I truly don't see TS4 going very far.
So there will be a toddler patch? My guess is now they are working on content packs such as EPs and GPs, there will be less 'free' stuff as, like any company, they don't want to give away too much. Coding such things takes time, time that costs money, money that can be made from sales and thus, they are not going to give away everything just for free now they are working on EPs
So I'm expected to pay out money to complete all the life stages, what? It feels like a collection of some sort, toddlers being the "rare" item.
If we're expected to pay for Toddlers, I'll wait for a 5$ sale. Try selling me a lifestage, they won't be getting the full dough they expect ...
The SimGurus did state that they were going to still give out free stuff once in awhile.
Another brilliant reply!
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and another excellent reply!
This game is such a revolutionary disaster that it can only get better from here. Unless they charge us for toddlers.
Toddlers would still feel complete, with still plenty of enough items for them without the need of a expansion for them.