I've noticed it takes a while to be friends with someone. I've also noticed that if you go a day or two without talking to friends, that the relationship suffers a crazy amount. Anyone noticed this? This sucks when you have to make 4 friends for work lol.
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IIRC, there's also a cheat to modify relationships. But you have to have control of the other Sim as well, for the relationship to be requited.
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There's a relationship decay mod at ModTheSims.Info that allows you to customise how fast relationships decay, both romantic and friendship.
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No, it seems a bit harder. In Sims 2, the phone was a big crutch. You could have your Sims make a couple of phone calls a day and keep relationships up. In Sims 4, the phone calls aren't as effective in boosting relationship scores.
I don't find new relationships hard to establish, but they decay faster than I would like.
Also, I don't know why but last night I was gaining friends like crazy. My current main Sim does NOT have Gregarious. Did the ghost patch boost conversational potency? I maxed out friendship with Vernon and Gladys over the course of a single conversation.
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I put Romance at 50% and friendship at 25%.
My chef sim now has a requirement to have 5 friends before he can advance in his career. He barely has enough time in a day to keep his needs in the green (taking 1-hour showers and peeing for 30 minutes several times a day doesn't help). I don't do mods, so I'm really dreading this.
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> Do you take advantage of reward traits you can buy with aspiration points? There are some that can get rid of decay or really slow it down and it makes the game easier without modding or cheating.
Thanks for the suggestion, SelenaGrey. In a prior Sims game (can't remember which one), using rewards completely eliminated the need to pee, eat or shower. Made the game feel broken to me. I don't want that -- I just want him to do those things quicker. A 10 minute shower. A 2 minute pee. Do the Sims 4 potions reduce or eliminate?
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This is why they need to patch in the ability to raise the relationship sliders with testingcheats like we could in TS2 and TS3. There is a mod for this now but some people don't use mods.
Anyway, I had my test Sim try to force a friendship today. She invited a fellow over and relentlessly peppered him with joke after joke. It was exhausting. Their relationship improved but didn't make it up to friend status before he left. She went to bed but another fellow showed up on the doorstep, so she got out of bed and did the same comedy routine. He went to friend status.
Her energy now solidly in the red, she gave him a hug, said goodbye (hint, hint) and went to bed. Um, he didn't leave. Hung about, raiding her fridge, playing on her computer(!!), reading her books and watching TV for another 3 hours. At least he didn't try to crawl into bed with her -- that would have been the end of that friendship!
/sigh I suppose I'll have to just dig deep and attack this friend-making/keeping monster. Ugh.
Kiwi, it was *worse* than you can imagine. My Sim had the day off, so he "planned" a party ((side note: why oh why can't we plan a party for the future -- all parties start right NOW grrrr)). There were only 2 sims available to invite so he invited them both. He didn't know them well, maybe 15% green on each.
They showed up instanteously and proceeded to clean out the fridge ((thank goodness my Sim had food in there)). He persuaded them to dance, listen to music, chat and mingle. He plied them with joke after joke, funny story after funny story. He discovered that they were BOTH evil.
Things went downhill fast.They began hurling insults (while still chowing down on everything in sight). They left dirty dishes everywhere. The relationships deteriorated rapidly, dipping into the red zone. I had to end the party early and send these wretched creatures packing. My Sim was ANGRY and in his whole simlife, he's NEVER been angry. I was stressed. I calmed him down, sent him to bed, saved and quit.
What a colossal waste of time and energy. He STILL doesn't have any friends (and can't get promoted without them). Frankly, I'm liking this less and less.
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OMG I actually threw a party too... the party actually went well, but I came out of it with no new friends. My sim Lyla currently has 1 friend out of 4.. and the only reason she has 1 is because she's friends with the dude who lives with her.
We need that cheat lol.