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Vgchartz totals for USA and Global

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    marioXtremomarioXtremo Posts: 1,773 Member
    Worldwide, it sold 408,150 copies... not bad for all the bad press... and it's #1 and it beats the rest of the games by A LOT! :D
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    JoeWow1003JoeWow1003 Posts: 4,121 Member
    Kittenkiss wrote: »
    As long as the way they count sales is consistent between all of the games, it's still a valuable set of data, because it shows sales relative to other games.

    That's a good idea. I just checked out their Sims 3 sales figures for the first week...327k copies sold. Although apparently that was only 4 days after release also so let's look at the end of week 2...490k copies sold after 11 days according to this site. This proves this site is highly inaccurate because we know for a fact Sims 3 sold 1.4 million copies in its first week.
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    gayarsgayars Posts: 2,229 Member
    Yeah but wasn't it the only game releasing that week? And the only pc game?
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    RinilexRinilex Posts: 3,048 Member
    I just want to know how many returns they got.
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    gmgargmgar Posts: 2,064 Member
    gayars wrote: »
    I don't know @gmgar I would love to see the REAL sales totals! I think they must have been okay tho, because the gurus disappeared from the ask a guru thread lol.


    Lol, yes damage control is over now.

    The totals speak for themselves...no one is clinging to false hope.

    EA messed up. I am still shocked by this...also embarrassed for them.

    I wanted this game to be great, but it is what it is.

    Sales totals tell the truth...no matter how someone wants to spin this truth.
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    daltondougdaltondoug Posts: 618 Member
    JoeWow1003 wrote: »
    Kittenkiss wrote: »
    As long as the way they count sales is consistent between all of the games, it's still a valuable set of data, because it shows sales relative to other games.

    That's a good idea. I just checked out their Sims 3 sales figures for the first week...327k copies sold. Although apparently that was only 4 days after release also so let's look at the end of week 2...490k copies sold after 11 days according to this site. This proves this site is highly inaccurate because we know for a fact Sims 3 sold 1.4 million copies in its first week.

    but it's still relevant data altogether. If they do count only physical sales, that could even mean 4 did better than 3.
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    ebuchalaebuchala Posts: 4,945 Member
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    daltondoug wrote: »
    ebuchala, the problem is that, even if this website is wrong by a little amount, it'll still be bad if compared to the predecessors.
    Again, I guess I'm not understanding or maybe my math is rusty. TS2 sold 1 million units over the course of 10 days which TS4 is currently on track to do especially since it's not likely vgchartz includes digital sales and we haven't seen sales numbers from Japan yet.

    While I get that it's not likely to match TS3's first week of sales (though that's not a given, either, depending on how well digital sales went), I'm not getting that it won't match TS2's 10 day sales.
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    JoeWow1003JoeWow1003 Posts: 4,121 Member
    gmgar wrote: »
    gayars wrote: »
    I don't know @gmgar I would love to see the REAL sales totals! I think they must have been okay tho, because the gurus disappeared from the ask a guru thread lol.


    Lol, yes damage control is over now.

    The totals speak for themselves...no one is clinging to false hope.

    EA messed up. I am still shocked by this...also embarrassed for them.

    I wanted this game to be great, but it is what it is.

    Sales totals tell the truth...no matter how someone wants to spin this truth.

    There is no truth to this site. I just proved how inaccurate this site is, by a factor of 3 apparently.
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    RinilexRinilex Posts: 3,048 Member
    gmgar wrote: »
    gayars wrote: »
    I don't know @gmgar I would love to see the REAL sales totals! I think they must have been okay tho, because the gurus disappeared from the ask a guru thread lol.


    Lol, yes damage control is over now.

    The totals speak for themselves...no one is clinging to false hope.

    EA messed up. I am still shocked by this...also embarrassed for them.

    I wanted this game to be great, but it is what it is.

    Sales totals tell the truth...no matter how someone wants to spin this truth.

    I was wondering where they were today... was there no explanation?
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    KittenkissKittenkiss Posts: 1,047 Member
    Worldwide, it sold 408,150 copies... not bad for all the bad press... and it's #1 and it beats the rest of the games by A LOT! :D

    Be careful, those are counting pre-orders. You'll need to wait a few weeks to get a better idea.
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    JoeWow1003JoeWow1003 Posts: 4,121 Member
    daltondoug wrote: »
    JoeWow1003 wrote: »
    Kittenkiss wrote: »
    As long as the way they count sales is consistent between all of the games, it's still a valuable set of data, because it shows sales relative to other games.

    That's a good idea. I just checked out their Sims 3 sales figures for the first week...327k copies sold. Although apparently that was only 4 days after release also so let's look at the end of week 2...490k copies sold after 11 days according to this site. This proves this site is highly inaccurate because we know for a fact Sims 3 sold 1.4 million copies in its first week.

    but it's still relevant data altogether. If they do count only physical sales, that could even mean 4 did better than 3.

    Going by this site's methodology apparently Sims 4 actually did a lot better than Sims 3 if they don't include digital copies.

    I wouldn't put much faith in this site at all now though. I mean they weren't even in the ballpark when it came to Sims 3 figures.
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    EasyToReadEasyToRead Posts: 7,813 Member
    daltondoug wrote: »
    EasyToRead wrote: »
    daltondoug wrote: »
    EasyToRead wrote: »
    daltondoug wrote: »
    yep, officially a flop /o/
    The way Vgchartz count sales seem a bit questionable so there's is nothing official about this.....

    I don't know. Even if you think they are a little off - like 300 thousand off. It would still be like 600 thousand sales.
    And what if they are off by a lot.........

    well, if they don't include digital sales, they probably are. Most people use digital distributing services. I was off thinking it included everything, before stating that.
    Yeah you jumped the gun a bit when you said officially a flop. The same for the rest of you people who said that....
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    StormkeepStormkeep Posts: 7,632 Member
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    Kittenkiss wrote: »
    As long as the way they count sales is consistent between all of the games, it's still a valuable set of data, because it shows sales relative to other games.

    That's a good idea. I just checked out their Sims 3 sales figures for the first week...327k copies sold. Although apparently that was only 4 days after release also so let's look at the end of week 2...490k copies sold after 11 days according to this site. This proves this site is highly inaccurate because we know for a fact Sims 3 sold 1.4 million copies in its first week.

    And I think it is quite fair to assume that digital sales have become far more "the norm" today then they were 5 years ago.

    I know that I, for one, NEVER would buy digital 5 years ago. I hated the entire concept. I absolutely needed a disc copy.

    Fast forward to today and I NEVER buy physical. If a game isn't available on either Steam or Origin, I won't buy it. Incidentally, The Sims series is largely responsible for my change of heart on the issue. Ran out of room for all of the discs... (That and I became environmentally conscious)

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    KittenkissKittenkiss Posts: 1,047 Member
    JoeWow1003 wrote: »
    Kittenkiss wrote: »
    As long as the way they count sales is consistent between all of the games, it's still a valuable set of data, because it shows sales relative to other games.

    That's a good idea. I just checked out their Sims 3 sales figures for the first week...327k copies sold. Although apparently that was only 4 days after release also so let's look at the end of week 2...490k copies sold after 11 days according to this site. This proves this site is highly inaccurate because we know for a fact Sims 3 sold 1.4 million copies in its first week.

    How do you know it sold 1.4 mil? Self reported data? Or independent analysis?
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    marioXtremomarioXtremo Posts: 1,773 Member
    edited September 2014
    Kittenkiss wrote: »
    Worldwide, it sold 408,150 copies... not bad for all the bad press... and it's #1 and it beats the rest of the games by A LOT! :D

    Be careful, those are counting pre-orders. You'll need to wait a few weeks to get a better idea.

    I pre-ordered my game and trust me... I got it the day it came out... Isn't that what you are supposed to do when you're so hyped about a game? :P

    Besides, I constantly look at VGChartz and so that happens with all games then, so...
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    daltondougdaltondoug Posts: 618 Member
    ebuchala wrote: »
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    daltondoug wrote: »
    ebuchala, the problem is that, even if this website is wrong by a little amount, it'll still be bad if compared to the predecessors.
    Again, I guess I'm not understanding or maybe my math is rusty. TS2 sold 1 million units over the course of 10 days which TS4 is currently on track to do especially since it's not likely vgchartz includes digital sales and we haven't seen sales numbers from Japan yet.

    While I get that it's not likely to match TS3's first week of sales (though that's not a given, either, depending on how well digital sales went), I'm not getting that it won't match TS2's 10 day sales.

    it's like I said - if you counted only physical sales, it's a very good number. Otherwise they would've lost a fair share of customers
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    JoeWow1003JoeWow1003 Posts: 4,121 Member
    Stormkeep wrote: »
    Kittenkiss wrote: »
    As long as the way they count sales is consistent between all of the games, it's still a valuable set of data, because it shows sales relative to other games.

    That's a good idea. I just checked out their Sims 3 sales figures for the first week...327k copies sold. Although apparently that was only 4 days after release also so let's look at the end of week 2...490k copies sold after 11 days according to this site. This proves this site is highly inaccurate because we know for a fact Sims 3 sold 1.4 million copies in its first week.

    And I think it is quite fair to assume that digital sales have become far more "the norm" today then they were 5 years ago.

    I know that I, for one, NEVER would buy digital 5 years ago. I hated the entire concept. I absolutely needed a disc copy.

    Fast forward to today and I NEVER bu physical. If a game isn't available on either Steam or Origin, I won't buy it. Incidentally, The Sims series is largely responsible for my change of heart on the issue. Ran out of room for all of the discs... (That and I became environmentally conscious)

    Pretty much the same for me. I don't think I bought any digital games 5 years ago. Now I can't remember the last time I bought a physical copy of a game...one of the earlier WoW expansion packs I'm sure.
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    gayarsgayars Posts: 2,229 Member
    Actually I don't think, like I have said before, we will really know how well this game is going to do until we see how the expansion packs do in sales. If they bring back, say, toddlers and pools for instance, fairly quickly, the game is probably going to do okay. If not, and the expansion packs are relatively empty without adding much content back in, they won't do well.
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    JoeWow1003JoeWow1003 Posts: 4,121 Member
    Kittenkiss wrote: »
    JoeWow1003 wrote: »
    Kittenkiss wrote: »
    As long as the way they count sales is consistent between all of the games, it's still a valuable set of data, because it shows sales relative to other games.

    That's a good idea. I just checked out their Sims 3 sales figures for the first week...327k copies sold. Although apparently that was only 4 days after release also so let's look at the end of week 2...490k copies sold after 11 days according to this site. This proves this site is highly inaccurate because we know for a fact Sims 3 sold 1.4 million copies in its first week.

    How do you know it sold 1.4 mil? Self reported data? Or independent analysis?

    EA said that's how many copies of Sims 3 sold in the first week. I guess it's possible EA lied but that seems highly unlikely.
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    ebuchalaebuchala Posts: 4,945 Member
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    daltondoug wrote: »
    ebuchala wrote: »
    [
    daltondoug wrote: »
    ebuchala, the problem is that, even if this website is wrong by a little amount, it'll still be bad if compared to the predecessors.
    Again, I guess I'm not understanding or maybe my math is rusty. TS2 sold 1 million units over the course of 10 days which TS4 is currently on track to do especially since it's not likely vgchartz includes digital sales and we haven't seen sales numbers from Japan yet.

    While I get that it's not likely to match TS3's first week of sales (though that's not a given, either, depending on how well digital sales went), I'm not getting that it won't match TS2's 10 day sales.

    it's like I said - if you counted only physical sales, it's a very good number. Otherwise they would've lost a fair share of customers

    I saw your later posts. :)
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    Zolt65Zolt65 Posts: 8,272 Member
    ebuchala wrote: »

    While I get that it's not likely to match TS3's first week of sales (though that's not a given, either, depending on how well digital sales went), I'm not getting that it won't match TS2's 10 day sales.


    That is not totally accurate. You are going by the quote of 100k over the first 4 days.
    Sales 'could' have stayed the same, increased, or dropped based on the reviews.
    The true totals will be when EA announces the first weeks sales.

    Which is odd they have not released those numbers since the game has been out for two weeks now in the US/Canada and 10 days in the rest of the world.


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    gayarsgayars Posts: 2,229 Member
    @Zolt65 Perhaps no matter how many copies it sold, there is still the problem of knowing what it did compared to some internal number EA wanted sold?
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    CapraCorn104CapraCorn104 Posts: 1,184 Member
    Okay, so there's some things wrong with this.
    1. It only counts 4 days of it being released, not even a full week. For four days and it sold 0.41, I'd say that's decent
    2. Doesn't count digital copies
    3. That site is always inaccurate.
    I think it'd be best to wait a couple more weeks before we see how much it truly sold.
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    daltondougdaltondoug Posts: 618 Member
    Zolt65 wrote: »
    ebuchala wrote: »

    While I get that it's not likely to match TS3's first week of sales (though that's not a given, either, depending on how well digital sales went), I'm not getting that it won't match TS2's 10 day sales.


    That is not totally accurate. You are going by the quote of 100k over the first 4 days.
    Sales 'could' have stayed the same, increased, or dropped based on the reviews.
    The true totals will be when EA announces the first weeks sales.

    Which is odd they have not released those numbers since the game has been out for two weeks now in the US/Canada and 10 days in the rest of the world.

    But I really don't know what to expect from E.A anymore. My sensation is that they don't really care much for the sims series. Their whole P.R for the game was a nightmare.
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    KittenkissKittenkiss Posts: 1,047 Member
    Kittenkiss wrote: »
    Worldwide, it sold 408,150 copies... not bad for all the bad press... and it's #1 and it beats the rest of the games by A LOT! :D

    Be careful, those are counting pre-orders. You'll need to wait a few weeks to get a better idea.

    I pre-ordered my game and trust me... I got it the day it came out... Isn't that what you are supposed to do when you're so hyped about a game? :P


    Yes, that's what I'm saying. The 400k includes the delivery of pre-order sales, yes? So Pre-order sales minus actual sales equal the actual sales rate for the week. Leading up to release, Sims 4 was getting a few thousand pre-orders per week.

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