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    rk800rk800 Posts: 541 Member
    JoeWow1003 wrote: »
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    rk800 wrote: »
    Arixtotle wrote: »
    rk800 wrote: »
    I think that if a developer refuses to divulge a game for no good reason then that game should automatically get 5 points off its score.

    It was just pointed out that they may be trying to limit pirating.

    If that's true then it could be a viable reason. But something tells me they don't want their game criticized and risk depleted sales.

    Right. Most likely a reviewer leaked the game last time so EA is just supposed to say "Here guys! Have fun!"
    That's why you can only send it out to trusted sites and organizations. With TS3 they gave it to anyone and everyone. So to quote Julia Roberts in Pretty Woman; big mistake!
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    JoeWow1003JoeWow1003 Posts: 4,121 Member
    ebuchala wrote: »
    I saw that with "pee 5 times to get a reward." No one would EVER respond to my questions for a source and I'm still fairly sure it's because another member and I were discussing the RPG elements and the other person used that as an example of how extreme and annoying she thought the RPG aspects were in TS4. Next thing I knew, people were quoting it as being part of the game all over the forums.

    How easily rumors get started.

    It's not like the discolored stone story that's going around. That stuff is real.
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    DrGorillaDrGorilla Posts: 253 Member
    JoeWow1003 wrote: »
    DrGorilla wrote: »
    This is like that game where you whisper a story down the line and see how mangled it becomes by the end, only with multiple started threads on the same topic.

    It's pretty amazing around here.

    I remember one time on these forums I saw in one thread someone said something like "That's like saying there aren't any toilets in the game."

    Then someone replied "That proves there aren't any toilets in the game!"

    Then 2 minutes later in a different thread someone said "I just read that there aren't any toilets in Sims 4? Why would EA do this?" and the conversation just took off from there.

    Of course it wasn't toilets they were talking about, I just can't remember the exact details of the conversation.

    I'm only human, okay DrGorilla? I can't possibly remember everything! Get off my case!

    I think it was "No family trees" somehow morphing into "No families!!" I didn't even touch that because of how disappointed I was in, ahem, humans.
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    JoeWow1003JoeWow1003 Posts: 4,121 Member
    Man EA can't win.

    "LOL! There are only positive reviews because those people are being paid!!!!"
    "LOL! Reviewers aren't getting early copies of the game because EA knows their game is plum!"
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    ebuchalaebuchala Posts: 4,945 Member
    JoeWow1003 wrote: »
    ebuchala wrote: »
    I saw that with "pee 5 times to get a reward." No one would EVER respond to my questions for a source and I'm still fairly sure it's because another member and I were discussing the RPG elements and the other person used that as an example of how extreme and annoying she thought the RPG aspects were in TS4. Next thing I knew, people were quoting it as being part of the game all over the forums.

    How easily rumors get started.

    It's not like the discolored stone story that's going around. That stuff is real.

    The stone MUST be taught to conform. You're engendering unrealistic expectations in all stones to allow them to think they can be whatever color they want.
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    CapraCorn104CapraCorn104 Posts: 1,184 Member
    mulboro wrote: »
    knazzer wrote: »
    I just commented on another thread that it seemed odd IGN have not already done a review. Normally it's not a good sign, or EA haven't paid IGN yet to give a good review!
    This pretty much sums it up-
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    This is why I don't trust IGN, they drink too much Mountain Dew and Coca-Cola. :s
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    mulboromulboro Posts: 2,012 Member
    mulboro wrote: »
    knazzer wrote: »
    I just commented on another thread that it seemed odd IGN have not already done a review. Normally it's not a good sign, or EA haven't paid IGN yet to give a good review!
    This pretty much sums it up-
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    This is why I don't trust IGN, they drink too much Mountain Dew and Coca-Cola. :s
    Don't forget Doritos!
    What'd you just say??
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    knazzerknazzer Posts: 3,382 Member
    I use to love IGN, but they have really sold out.
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    munchie885munchie885 Posts: 8,439 Member
    mulboro wrote: »
    knazzer wrote: »
    I just commented on another thread that it seemed odd IGN have not already done a review. Normally it's not a good sign, or EA haven't paid IGN yet to give a good review!
    This pretty much sums it up-
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    This is why I don't trust IGN, they drink too much Mountain Dew and Coca-Cola. :s

    I wish EA would pay me to give them a review... I'd still give them a 5/10 though xD
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    wormofthebookwormofthebook Posts: 176 Member
    That's why I'm waiting until reviews start flooding in before I buy the game. That way I at least know something to expect.
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    CapraCorn104CapraCorn104 Posts: 1,184 Member
    mulboro wrote: »
    mulboro wrote: »
    knazzer wrote: »
    I just commented on another thread that it seemed odd IGN have not already done a review. Normally it's not a good sign, or EA haven't paid IGN yet to give a good review!
    This pretty much sums it up-
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    This is why I don't trust IGN, they drink too much Mountain Dew and Coca-Cola. :s
    Don't forget Doritos!
    How could I forget the DORITOSSSSSS!?
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    JoeWow1003JoeWow1003 Posts: 4,121 Member
    The more I think about this the more ludicrous the conspiracy theorists claims are.

    Okay, so. They think video game reviewer sites basically sell good reviews and the fact that EA isn't giving them early copies of this game proves that EA hasn't paid for a good review yet...okay...so...like okay yeah I'm with you so far.

    But if you openly admit that you think game reviewers can be bought and sold why would you give 2 plums about their opinion anyways?

    That doesn't make sense.

    "I'm waiting to see what the professional reviewers have to say about this! Who cares if a good review means they were bribed and a bad review means they weren't bribed! I want an unbiased opinion, darnit!"
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    Stdlr9Stdlr9 Posts: 2,744 Member
    Arixtotle wrote: »
    As an MMO player I'm fairly used to that. No one gets the full game before launch of an MMO.

    It's different with an MMO, because without a ton of people playing, you can't judge the "Massively Mulitiplayer" part.

    This is bad news for TS4. It's like when a big film studio won't let anyone review a movie before it's released -- they are indeed expecting bad reviews, ones that will keep paying customers away.

    Dan Stapleton, by the way, is an excellent reviewer and has written many favorable Sims reviews over the years for PCGamer magazine. I seem to recall that he loved the base game of TS3. I trust his thoughts on games (don't always agree with them, but trust them).

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    mulboromulboro Posts: 2,012 Member
    JoeWow1003 wrote: »
    The more I think about this the more ludicrous the conspiracy theorists claims are.

    Okay, so. They think video game reviewer sites basically sell good reviews and the fact that EA isn't giving them early copies of this game proves that EA hasn't paid for a good review yet...okay...so...like okay yeah I'm with you so far.

    But if you openly admit that you think game reviewers can be bought and sold why would you give 2 plums about their opinion anyways?

    That doesn't make sense.

    "I'm waiting to see what the professional reviewers have to say about this! Who cares if a good review means they were bribed and a bad review means they weren't bribed! I want an unbiased opinion, darnit!"
    I can't speak for anyone else, but I haven't given a rat's patooty about IGN since 2003.
    What'd you just say??
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    JoeWow1003JoeWow1003 Posts: 4,121 Member
    JoeWow1003 wrote: »
    The more I think about this the more ludicrous the conspiracy theorists claims are.

    Okay, so. They think video game reviewer sites basically sell good reviews and the fact that EA isn't giving them early copies of this game proves that EA hasn't paid for a good review yet...okay...so...like okay yeah I'm with you so far.

    But if you openly admit that you think game reviewers can be bought and sold why would you give 2 plums about their opinion anyways?

    That doesn't make sense.

    "I'm waiting to see what the professional reviewers have to say about this! Who cares if a good review means they were bribed and a bad review means they weren't bribed! I want an unbiased opinion, darnit!"
    panapops wrote: »
    This is a terrible sign and is making me reconsider my preorder that was already at about half the asking price for the game.

    Even though IGN has a history of being paid off and everyone knows how wrong the initial Simcity reviews were last year, reviews are still important.

    See what I mean? :/
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    CapraCorn104CapraCorn104 Posts: 1,184 Member
    JoeWow1003 wrote: »
    JoeWow1003 wrote: »
    The more I think about this the more ludicrous the conspiracy theorists claims are.

    Okay, so. They think video game reviewer sites basically sell good reviews and the fact that EA isn't giving them early copies of this game proves that EA hasn't paid for a good review yet...okay...so...like okay yeah I'm with you so far.

    But if you openly admit that you think game reviewers can be bought and sold why would you give 2 plums about their opinion anyways?

    That doesn't make sense.

    "I'm waiting to see what the professional reviewers have to say about this! Who cares if a good review means they were bribed and a bad review means they weren't bribed! I want an unbiased opinion, darnit!"
    panapops wrote: »
    This is a terrible sign and is making me reconsider my preorder that was already at about half the asking price for the game.

    Even though IGN has a history of being paid off and everyone knows how wrong the initial Simcity reviews were last year, reviews are still important.

    See what I mean? :/
    Yep, I don't understand either why you would listen to someones review when they've been known to be bribed to give a good review :\

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    panapopspanapops Posts: 429 Member
    JoeWow1003 wrote: »
    JoeWow1003 wrote: »
    The more I think about this the more ludicrous the conspiracy theorists claims are.

    Okay, so. They think video game reviewer sites basically sell good reviews and the fact that EA isn't giving them early copies of this game proves that EA hasn't paid for a good review yet...okay...so...like okay yeah I'm with you so far.

    But if you openly admit that you think game reviewers can be bought and sold why would you give 2 plums about their opinion anyways?

    That doesn't make sense.

    "I'm waiting to see what the professional reviewers have to say about this! Who cares if a good review means they were bribed and a bad review means they weren't bribed! I want an unbiased opinion, darnit!"
    panapops wrote: »
    This is a terrible sign and is making me reconsider my preorder that was already at about half the asking price for the game.

    Even though IGN has a history of being paid off and everyone knows how wrong the initial Simcity reviews were last year, reviews are still important.

    See what I mean? :/

    Are you strawmanning or just really dense?
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    MsPhyMsPhy Posts: 5,055 Member
    panapops wrote: »
    This is a terrible sign and is making me reconsider my preorder that was already at about half the asking price for the game.

    Even though IGN has a history of being paid off and everyone knows how wrong the initial Simcity reviews were last year, reviews are still important. Sure, some people have had previews - a carefully selected group of people who were told that they were playing an earlier version and for a limited amount of time. I was expecting that some reviewers (not all, because $$$$) would be more careful this time around and make sure the game didn't fall apart a few hours in like Simcity did. This is not giving me hope that Sims 4 will be different.

    This makes no sense. You state that IGN has a history of being paid off and that they were wrong in their initial SimCity reviews, yet lack of input from such an unreliable source is causing you to have doubts about your pre-order? Or is it simply the lack of EA providing advance copy to this ostensibly paid-off, unreliable source that is causing you distress? Either way ......
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    CapraCorn104CapraCorn104 Posts: 1,184 Member
    panapops wrote: »
    JoeWow1003 wrote: »
    JoeWow1003 wrote: »
    The more I think about this the more ludicrous the conspiracy theorists claims are.

    Okay, so. They think video game reviewer sites basically sell good reviews and the fact that EA isn't giving them early copies of this game proves that EA hasn't paid for a good review yet...okay...so...like okay yeah I'm with you so far.

    But if you openly admit that you think game reviewers can be bought and sold why would you give 2 plums about their opinion anyways?

    That doesn't make sense.

    "I'm waiting to see what the professional reviewers have to say about this! Who cares if a good review means they were bribed and a bad review means they weren't bribed! I want an unbiased opinion, darnit!"
    panapops wrote: »
    This is a terrible sign and is making me reconsider my preorder that was already at about half the asking price for the game.

    Even though IGN has a history of being paid off and everyone knows how wrong the initial Simcity reviews were last year, reviews are still important.

    See what I mean? :/

    Are you strawmanning or just really dense?
    How is he being dense or strawmanning? It actually makes no sense why you would trust someone who's been known and there's evidence of them being paid off in the past.
    But this is the internet, I forgot that logic isn't allowed here.

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    panapopspanapops Posts: 429 Member
    MsPhy wrote: »
    panapops wrote: »
    This is a terrible sign and is making me reconsider my preorder that was already at about half the asking price for the game.

    Even though IGN has a history of being paid off and everyone knows how wrong the initial Simcity reviews were last year, reviews are still important. Sure, some people have had previews - a carefully selected group of people who were told that they were playing an earlier version and for a limited amount of time. I was expecting that some reviewers (not all, because $$$$) would be more careful this time around and make sure the game didn't fall apart a few hours in like Simcity did. This is not giving me hope that Sims 4 will be different.

    This makes no sense. You state that IGN has a history of being paid off and that they were wrong in their initial SimCity reviews, yet lack of input from such an unreliable source is causing you to have doubts about your pre-order? Or is it simply the lack of EA providing advance copy to this ostensibly paid-off, unreliable source that is causing you distress? Either way ......

    Because it's not just IGN that isn't getting it? They're not allowing anyone they haven't selected to play the game for more than a few hours. That doesn't trouble you in the slightest?
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    MsPhyMsPhy Posts: 5,055 Member
    panapops wrote: »
    MsPhy wrote: »
    panapops wrote: »
    This is a terrible sign and is making me reconsider my preorder that was already at about half the asking price for the game.

    Even though IGN has a history of being paid off and everyone knows how wrong the initial Simcity reviews were last year, reviews are still important. Sure, some people have had previews - a carefully selected group of people who were told that they were playing an earlier version and for a limited amount of time. I was expecting that some reviewers (not all, because $$$$) would be more careful this time around and make sure the game didn't fall apart a few hours in like Simcity did. This is not giving me hope that Sims 4 will be different.

    This makes no sense. You state that IGN has a history of being paid off and that they were wrong in their initial SimCity reviews, yet lack of input from such an unreliable source is causing you to have doubts about your pre-order? Or is it simply the lack of EA providing advance copy to this ostensibly paid-off, unreliable source that is causing you distress? Either way ......

    Because it's not just IGN that isn't getting it? They're not allowing anyone they haven't selected to play the game for more than a few hours. That doesn't trouble you in the slightest?

    Not in the slightest. I never read professional gaming company reviews.
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    DrGorillaDrGorilla Posts: 253 Member
    panapops wrote: »
    JoeWow1003 wrote: »
    JoeWow1003 wrote: »
    The more I think about this the more ludicrous the conspiracy theorists claims are.

    Okay, so. They think video game reviewer sites basically sell good reviews and the fact that EA isn't giving them early copies of this game proves that EA hasn't paid for a good review yet...okay...so...like okay yeah I'm with you so far.

    But if you openly admit that you think game reviewers can be bought and sold why would you give 2 plums about their opinion anyways?

    That doesn't make sense.

    "I'm waiting to see what the professional reviewers have to say about this! Who cares if a good review means they were bribed and a bad review means they weren't bribed! I want an unbiased opinion, darnit!"
    panapops wrote: »
    This is a terrible sign and is making me reconsider my preorder that was already at about half the asking price for the game.

    Even though IGN has a history of being paid off and everyone knows how wrong the initial Simcity reviews were last year, reviews are still important.

    See what I mean? :/

    Are you strawmanning or just really dense?

    Two things:

    1) You had really unfortunate timing with that post.
    2) You don't place down a precise premise for what you mean by "reviews are still important" despite the initial concession that outfits like IGN have "a history of being paid off" and initially "wrong." How are they still important if the information is made apocryphal from bribery?
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