Living in the south myself this would be amazing. Cities like New Orleans, Savannah and Charleston would be gorgeous inspiration... and yes the culture can be very unique. There is a lot of lore as well with real life voodoo and haunted areas. Much of the early architecture was built to keep spirits out of the homes as was the superstition such as specific paint colors, rounded corners and intricate iron gating. Being a great host was shown by owning pineapples. Very quirky.
As for horses... some areas use them to ride (more Texas and southwest) but on the eastern side of the south and coastal they use them with carriages still. The music varies from country to jazz (dueling piano bars) blues and bluegrass.
Re: Southern US inspired EP: could we get a swamp world please, with swamp houses & houseboats , hoover crafts and sure why not, an alligator lot challenge. That way It’ll be much harder to keep our little crawfish safe and more importantly, our sims.
Oh, I’ve also heard several swampy & boggy areas are inhabited by werebeasts. Thought I’d mention it. 😇
Soooo... most of the south is not swampy, that's mostly Florida and Louisiana. We already have a New Orleans-inspired area, so that mostly leaves us Florida, and Florida is... kind of doing its own thing. I mean, technically it's southern, but... it's unique in a lot of ways.
Now, that's not to say a swamp environment wouldn't be interesting. But, there are also swamp ecosystems in parts of India and certain African countries. Maybe instead of adding them to a southern pack, it would be even better as an opportunity to see some new worlds added that are inspired by areas we haven't seen as much in The Sims.
ETA: there are lots of different ways they could go, but personally if I were designing a southern pack, I'd go for a mountain town with a river and creeks. Something more like eastern Georgia/western North Carolina/the Blue Ridge Mountains.
Since I'm dreaming: I could imagine a hobby pack in a world with 3-4 neighborhoods. (1) a downtown area with an arts center (including items for new hobbies like sculpture and glass blowing), an apartment building, a couple of historic residential lots, and one or two retail lots, as well as an open plaza area with food trucks where arts and literary festivals could be held. (2) a middle class residential neighborhood with 3-4 medium sized residential lots. (This is the neighborhood I could most easily do without, but it would be nice to have.) (3) a more expensive residential neighborhood with large lots modeled after Kentucky/Virginia horse country, including one 64x64 lot for a horse farm/stables. (4) A mountain neighborhood with 4 total lots: 2 smaller lots for cabins, a park, and a rental/campground lot. Imagine what this art team could do with a Smoky Mountains theme!
If you're basing a horse pack in North America, a Western pack would be better than a Southern pack. When people talk about an American-based horses back, I think they're talking cowboys and rodeos. They didn't have either in the American south. (As far as Kentucky Derby, isn't that heavily based on English-style horsing culture? A British pack might be better for that, so the game could add some other elements.)
BTW, Western horse culture is not a Southwest thing. It includes southern and northern states equally. One of the most famous jobs of cowboys was to go on cattle drives that brought cattle from ranches in SW states to railyards in NW states. The cowboy culture was in all the states they passed through, partied in, and eventually spent their lives in.
I live in Minnesota, far up north. Most people who were raised up here know how to ride horses, knows somebody who owns them, and many went to horse camps as kids. You see a lot of people wearing cowboy boots, western shirts, and even cowboy hats. (The cowboy hats aren't as popular as they used to be though.) Everybody wears jeans. We have a lot of bars and restaurants with wild-west themes. Western art and wildlife art are both very popular. Country music is very popular (too popular imo). We have rodeos and country-western music festivals. It's the same way in Wyoming, Montana, and the Dakotas.
If I was designing a horse pack, I would probably base it in a plains state like Nebraska or South Dakota. A desert type place would also be great, but we already have a nice desert location with Oasis.
A horse-pack based in NA should also include Native American stuff, which would be super cool, and that would include cultures of several tribes, mainly Southwest and Plains. Things many people associate with the Wild West such as teepees, feathered headdresses, dreamcatchers, furs, peace pipes, and "cigar-store indian" sculptures are from the Plains Indians that settled more in Northern states. (When I think SW Native Americans, I think of Navaho, Apache, and Hopi tribes and their art--nice pottery and woven materials.) Both are cool, but they are not the same.
BTW, would a Western-based horse pack be set in modern times, or a history-based pack? I like history, so the latter would be fun. Plus you could use more Native American stuff in a history-based pack, because traditional costume nowadays is limited to pow wows and tourist sites.
It could be set up as a "wild west town" that tourists from other eps could visit. They would just have to set it up that npcs only wear the costumes from that pack if they are in that zone. (Although players could change that if they wanted a whole wild west game.) I would love to see them do that with a medieval pack too, so the zone that comes with the pack would be a "Renaissance Festival", unless the player wants it all over their world.
If hope they do add a Southern pack with all this delicious food and horses. I just hope they also remember to add unicorns at the same time. And I would really love miniature horses. I'm slightly obsessed with mini horses. If they added them to the game the size of cats and dogs it would be the best pack. And I would want to breed them to make little tiny baby foals.
If you're basing a horse pack in North America, a Western pack would be better than a Southern pack. When people talk about an American-based horses back, I think they're talking cowboys and rodeos. They didn't have either in the American south.
TIL that we don't have horses or rodeos in Texas. 😶
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Would lurv me a Wild West Sims 4 Adventure and ride me horsey into the sunset, YEE-HAW, BANG BANG!
Let’s not forget about the poor Shetland ponies though.
Aww…
Sweet Little fluffy hooves. Great for toddlers too.
When I was a kid teen person I was repeatedly chased by this miniature Shetland Pony called “Basie”. Basie was absolutely lethal. He looked like the cuddly guy in the picture but he had the attitude of a giant black bull. Shetland ponies are deceptively cute, just like Grizzlies. Grizzlies ain’t teddy bears either!
Whenever I came near Basie he got all tense and immediately changed into attack mode, which meant I had to run like the wind in order to survive his agonizing headbutts. Long time afterwards someone told me he was simply protecting the two larger mares that he shared the paddocks with, from my presence. What a brave little guy.
He was such a Mean Mane Machine tho, but I loved him. 😆
A Southern United States pack really sounds like a lot of fun, with great food and horses too, but I have to ask... why are the South Eastern States known as the South, when the South Western States are known as the South West and aren't there Cow/ranching...folk in some of the northern states, like Wyoming and Montana?
A Southern United States pack really sounds like a lot of fun, with great food and horses too, but I have to ask... why are the South Eastern States known as the South, when the South Western States are known as the South West and aren't there Cow/ranching...folk in some of the northern states, like Wyoming and Montana?
I'm guessing it's because of the way the US developed historically. The southwestern states were settled later, so the whole idea of the West is iconic for us. And, yes, ranching is possible in many western states.
If you're basing a horse pack in North America, a Western pack would be better than a Southern pack. When people talk about an American-based horses back, I think they're talking cowboys and rodeos. They didn't have either in the American south.
TIL that we don't have horses or rodeos in Texas. 😶
If you're basing a horse pack in North America, a Western pack would be better than a Southern pack. When people talk about an American-based horses back, I think they're talking cowboys and rodeos. They didn't have either in the American south.
TIL that we don't have horses or rodeos in Texas. 😶
Texas is part of the West.
Try telling that to a Texan.
To be fair, I do consider Texas to be more American Southwest and therefore more associated with Western Tropes than Deep South ones, but believe me, Texas is part of the South. Just look at any Civil War map.
Chicken fried steak is for sure one of those southern meal with country gravy and mashed potatoes and mixed vegetables and butter rolls! Pecan pie for dessert.
Chicken fried steak is for sure one of those southern meal with country gravy and mashed potatoes and mixed vegetables and butter rolls! Pecan pie for dessert.
I've never heard of chicken fried steak. I just looked up a recipe. That looks delicious
Chicken fried steak is for sure one of those southern meal with country gravy and mashed potatoes and mixed vegetables and butter rolls! Pecan pie for dessert.
Never had that, but I'm not a fan of beef.
One of the independent fried chicken places locally had another chicken fried invention though, and I really loved it. They don't make it any more. Ribs. They were marinated in BBQ seasonings first, then coated in the flour mix and fried. So tasty.
Kebab shops here in the UK also generally have Spicy Spuds as a staple and extra alternative to chips. Boiled/par-boiled potatoes coated in the flour mix and deep fried. So good.
Basically, that peppery flour coating works on ALL THE THINGS.
Chicken fried steak is for sure one of those southern meal with country gravy and mashed potatoes and mixed vegetables and butter rolls! Pecan pie for dessert.
Love it! One of my favorite meals at Bob Evans. Substitute apple pie with ice cream and I'm on board. 😋
I just tweeted how I can't stand another American world but honestly if they made a horse pack and gave us a world that represented native Americans and also southern black culture I would be happy. I know a lot of ppl have been asking for soul food and I hope we do get it. Im jamaican but it always amazed me how many similarities I can find in our food and soul food. Like im pretty sure collard greens are the same thing as callaloo in Jamaica. Which would make sense since it originated from enslaved west africans. So getting greens or callaloo would at least represent Caribbean culture too even though I actually don't like it at all but my sims are less picky than me lol.
And I mean we basically have 0 representation of native american culture so I think it would be a perfect pack to introduce it.
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As for horses... some areas use them to ride (more Texas and southwest) but on the eastern side of the south and coastal they use them with carriages still. The music varies from country to jazz (dueling piano bars) blues and bluegrass.
The food list is forever long.
Soooo... most of the south is not swampy, that's mostly Florida and Louisiana. We already have a New Orleans-inspired area, so that mostly leaves us Florida, and Florida is... kind of doing its own thing. I mean, technically it's southern, but... it's unique in a lot of ways.
Now, that's not to say a swamp environment wouldn't be interesting. But, there are also swamp ecosystems in parts of India and certain African countries. Maybe instead of adding them to a southern pack, it would be even better as an opportunity to see some new worlds added that are inspired by areas we haven't seen as much in The Sims.
ETA: there are lots of different ways they could go, but personally if I were designing a southern pack, I'd go for a mountain town with a river and creeks. Something more like eastern Georgia/western North Carolina/the Blue Ridge Mountains.
Since I'm dreaming: I could imagine a hobby pack in a world with 3-4 neighborhoods. (1) a downtown area with an arts center (including items for new hobbies like sculpture and glass blowing), an apartment building, a couple of historic residential lots, and one or two retail lots, as well as an open plaza area with food trucks where arts and literary festivals could be held. (2) a middle class residential neighborhood with 3-4 medium sized residential lots. (This is the neighborhood I could most easily do without, but it would be nice to have.) (3) a more expensive residential neighborhood with large lots modeled after Kentucky/Virginia horse country, including one 64x64 lot for a horse farm/stables. (4) A mountain neighborhood with 4 total lots: 2 smaller lots for cabins, a park, and a rental/campground lot. Imagine what this art team could do with a Smoky Mountains theme!
BTW, Western horse culture is not a Southwest thing. It includes southern and northern states equally. One of the most famous jobs of cowboys was to go on cattle drives that brought cattle from ranches in SW states to railyards in NW states. The cowboy culture was in all the states they passed through, partied in, and eventually spent their lives in.
I live in Minnesota, far up north. Most people who were raised up here know how to ride horses, knows somebody who owns them, and many went to horse camps as kids. You see a lot of people wearing cowboy boots, western shirts, and even cowboy hats. (The cowboy hats aren't as popular as they used to be though.) Everybody wears jeans. We have a lot of bars and restaurants with wild-west themes. Western art and wildlife art are both very popular. Country music is very popular (too popular imo). We have rodeos and country-western music festivals. It's the same way in Wyoming, Montana, and the Dakotas.
If I was designing a horse pack, I would probably base it in a plains state like Nebraska or South Dakota. A desert type place would also be great, but we already have a nice desert location with Oasis.
BTW, would a Western-based horse pack be set in modern times, or a history-based pack? I like history, so the latter would be fun. Plus you could use more Native American stuff in a history-based pack, because traditional costume nowadays is limited to pow wows and tourist sites.
It could be set up as a "wild west town" that tourists from other eps could visit. They would just have to set it up that npcs only wear the costumes from that pack if they are in that zone. (Although players could change that if they wanted a whole wild west game.) I would love to see them do that with a medieval pack too, so the zone that comes with the pack would be a "Renaissance Festival", unless the player wants it all over their world.
TIL that we don't have horses or rodeos in Texas. 😶
cute horse
I'm guessing it's because of the way the US developed historically. The southwestern states were settled later, so the whole idea of the West is iconic for us. And, yes, ranching is possible in many western states.
Texas is part of the West.
Try telling that to a Texan.
To be fair, I do consider Texas to be more American Southwest and therefore more associated with Western Tropes than Deep South ones, but believe me, Texas is part of the South. Just look at any Civil War map.
I've never heard of chicken fried steak. I just looked up a recipe. That looks delicious
Never had that, but I'm not a fan of beef.
One of the independent fried chicken places locally had another chicken fried invention though, and I really loved it. They don't make it any more. Ribs. They were marinated in BBQ seasonings first, then coated in the flour mix and fried. So tasty.
Kebab shops here in the UK also generally have Spicy Spuds as a staple and extra alternative to chips. Boiled/par-boiled potatoes coated in the flour mix and deep fried. So good.
Basically, that peppery flour coating works on ALL THE THINGS.
Love it! One of my favorite meals at Bob Evans. Substitute apple pie with ice cream and I'm on board. 😋
And I mean we basically have 0 representation of native american culture so I think it would be a perfect pack to introduce it.
Also in pretty sure my mom have made chittlins when we lived in Jamaica too but I can't remember what we called it lol. Its intestines right?