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KIT - New Swatches Only
Sthenastia
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Existing KITS are controversial because of a lot of reasons as small amount of content, not matching content, cultural content ect. but I think that KITs have a potential, but EA needs to change the direction. A lot of people love to build in TS4, but also a huge part of the community don't care of build mode ect. Due to that I have an idea to create a KIT just only with recolours. Existing BB KITs have ~25 new mesches with ~12 swatches (sometimes very controversial or useless) per each item. It gives us 300 unique items in one kit. What if EA make a KIT just with 100 recoulors of base game set instead of a new furnitures?
For example. We have a lovely set of BlandCo kitchen with fortunately more swathes from the last patch but imagine if a new KIT will contain ~100 more unique variants for that set. In my opinion it could be awesome.
For example. We have a lovely set of BlandCo kitchen with fortunately more swathes from the last patch but imagine if a new KIT will contain ~100 more unique variants for that set. In my opinion it could be awesome.
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I really don't think that will happen anymore at this point. They made the wrong design choice in the beginning with restricting each asset to only be recolorable as a whole.
It's ok that a lot of items has just a general swatches, buy beds and counters definitely need to have separate sections.
I afraid that currently EA has a restricion to implement only 12 swatches per item. In the most of cases it's not enough, especially that the colour choice is questionable in the most of cases. Look at DHD GP. In my opinion both kitchen sets and the sectional sofas could be awesome, but someone has chosen weird colour combos and this is sad because now we are stuck with that colours.
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Well, if they started upgrading stuff, maybe they will consider this at least for objects where there is an obvious need. I don't see the point in bloating the game with 1200 re-colours of objects when they could half that number just by making stuff with different recolourable subsets. There is a lot of stuff indeed, but maybe they could start with small section like the kitchen counters.
Don't get me wrong, I'm all for at and would love them to start with bed as I find those the worst.
Well they are the creators of the game, maybe they can implement it somehow. CC creator mostly just clone and use the pre-sets give by Maxis so it's understandable if they cannot do it.
I will admit some people don't care about BB. I've even seen some complaints about getting free update content in general because of computer specs (boggles my mind).
I would not even consider myself what I have come to determine is an avid builder, but I do spend a solid third of my game time there and even upload some renovations to the gallery. I cannot say I want recolors locked behind kits or even necessarily a one off recolor kit.
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Regarding the color wheel, I get why people like it, but a color under a grayscale texture is never going to look as good as a full color texture, and tiling textures are always going to fall short when compared to the detail possibilities of hand painted textures. So, imo, Swatches are always going to look better in the long run, because they allow for those sort of details.
As for the original idea of a kit of only swatches... I'm going to have to be in the "No" camp. I like the idea of kits, and I wouldn't mind BB or CAS kits that were just 20-25 (or more) items in roughly the same category (clutter for a specific room/style, sleepwear, beds, curtains, jewelry, makeup etc.) as opposed to a bunch of different kinds of items on a theme, but a bunch of swatches for base game items as a kit - which a lot of people view as just money grabs or even just "overpriced" - would be a big time no-go from me. I don't know that I'd be actively mad about it, but I would actively see it as a waste of resources for the Kits team, and certainly would never get it out of principle.
In TS2 the mesh was divided into subsets, that were imported separately in the package and each had it's own swatch options, material settings and other attributes. They don't need to remap everything, just separate the maps. I'm not saying they should do this for all objects, but for those where it's most needed, kitchen counters, beds, chairs with cushions.
Yes, I would love this. Also, it would allow to use the designer tool to change the bedspread as if changing the sheets when doing laundry. It would add a nice touch of realism I think. At my home, I also don't have only one set of sheets or multiple sets of the same design.
A Swatch Kit? Absolutely. DLC for DLC is something this community absolutely adores. It’d be such a genius idea of the studio to make us buy extra swatches for content that was shipped with Base Game or other DLC. We’ll all be sending the team boxes full of love heart candies just to show how appreciative we are.
With kits Maxis got rid of those rules and I feel that now we are seeing people debate what Maxis can make and monetize for this game and I kinda feel that this is something that I would rather not open up even more.
We kinda need these rules so that EA doesn't start charging for everything for this game and I feel that if we are going to start selling swatches then we are just opening up more ways for EA to monetize this game, even if people are getting more of what they missed for this 7 year old game.
In the end you can always make the argument that more of something is a good thing and it's this or nothing but I personally feel that there is a point where we are kinda just asking for more content because we just want more of everything.
With kits I feel that we were kinda moving there and if Maxis would start selling kit swatches then we have reached that point for the sims4. It doesn't matter what Maxis makes, more of something is always a good thing.
Or is it?
tldr, I would prefer Maxis to not sell swatches for just the sake of people wanting more swatches, I prefer when Maxis are selling a package of something that gives people inspiration and let them try out new things, just not more content because... it's more content.
True. I forgot about just making the areas different material zones. But even that, depending on the construction of the mesh and how the UV map is drawn, can be a bit of a hassle. I remember one outfit I had for Genesis 1 in Daz Studio that the piping was weirdly mapped, so I couldn't make it into its own material zone separate from the rest of the dress without going in and completely re-drawing the UV map for the dress. And I stink at UV mapping, so I may be exaggerating how much of a hassle it would be.
And yes, I'm talking CG art assets rather than Game assets, but the basic principles of creating and mapping 3D assets isn't that different, just the level of details involved.
Well, as far as I know Maxis does very neat UV maps, no need to redraw anything, just separate the parts and match the UV maps to the texture file.