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REFRESH THE CAREER SYSTEM - Do You Want This?
carpe_diem
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Hi Simmers!
Hope you all doing well out there!
I think the current Career system need a Refresh (been there since Sims 1) and wrote down some ideas.
😊 Does it sounds interesting or not? Don’t be shy, I’m interested in what you think! 😊
😊AND FEEL FREE TO SHARE YOUR IDEAS! 😊
OVERHAUL OF THE CAREER SYSTEM
1. More Freelance careers (Musician / Artist / Caterer / etc)
2. Athletic career changed into Competing careers (Competition & Sponsor gigs!)
3. All NPC-careers as playable careers
4. Restaurant employees as playable careers (+Hire Family members)
5. Multiple Freelance careers at the same time (ex. Actor + Comedian)
6. Freelance careers / 1 Competing career +1 Regular career at the same time
7. Careers having Career Aspirations with Rewards
8. Current Skill Shape info tab on Skills (perform the activity regularly to keep in shape)
9. A career History (see your sims previous careers)
10. Work Reputation on all jobs
11. Select Workplace on careers (ex. an Office) +Work At Prefered Lot job option
12. Regular careers: Salary Levels instead of multiple Career titles
(ex. Employed Musican with Salary levels instead of Professional Pianist => Symphonic String player).
13. NEW LOT CHALLENGE: PICKY LABOR MARKET
-Daily offers on which jobs are available
-CV:s / Job Interviews / Licences for certain jobs
This means: Multiple possibilities to get a certain job! Ex. Skills / Degree / Recommendations / Right connections / Dubious methods ex. Fake Licenses & Bribing / etc.
HAPPY SIMMING EVERYONE!
Hope you all doing well out there!
I think the current Career system need a Refresh (been there since Sims 1) and wrote down some ideas.
😊 Does it sounds interesting or not? Don’t be shy, I’m interested in what you think! 😊
😊AND FEEL FREE TO SHARE YOUR IDEAS! 😊
OVERHAUL OF THE CAREER SYSTEM
1. More Freelance careers (Musician / Artist / Caterer / etc)
2. Athletic career changed into Competing careers (Competition & Sponsor gigs!)
3. All NPC-careers as playable careers
4. Restaurant employees as playable careers (+Hire Family members)
5. Multiple Freelance careers at the same time (ex. Actor + Comedian)
6. Freelance careers / 1 Competing career +1 Regular career at the same time
7. Careers having Career Aspirations with Rewards
8. Current Skill Shape info tab on Skills (perform the activity regularly to keep in shape)
9. A career History (see your sims previous careers)
10. Work Reputation on all jobs
11. Select Workplace on careers (ex. an Office) +Work At Prefered Lot job option
12. Regular careers: Salary Levels instead of multiple Career titles
(ex. Employed Musican with Salary levels instead of Professional Pianist => Symphonic String player).
13. NEW LOT CHALLENGE: PICKY LABOR MARKET
-Daily offers on which jobs are available
-CV:s / Job Interviews / Licences for certain jobs
This means: Multiple possibilities to get a certain job! Ex. Skills / Degree / Recommendations / Right connections / Dubious methods ex. Fake Licenses & Bribing / etc.
- CV:s & CV POINTS ✔️ ❌ LOT CHALLENGE: PICKY LABOR MARKET
Your sims CV will show the total amount of CV points (and where you collected them). Higher score = improves chance of getting the job. Some jobs require higher CV points (Ex. the CEO). Once you get the job, your career works as usual (level up skills for promotion).
Increase CV points ✔️
1. Work Reputation (High)
2. Work Performance (High)
3. Reputation (High, Get Famous EP)
4. Fame level (Get Famous EP)
5. Grades from High school (High)
6. Completed Career Aspirations
7. University Degree
8. Suitable skills (depending on branch)
9. Previous Careers (Criminal careers not included / Working in similar Careers = Higher points / High-ranking careers = Higher points)
10. Previous Salary levels
11. Current Recommendations, Certain sims give Higher points (chance to get Recommended if having a High relationship with earlier Co-worker or CEO / Ask sims to give a recommendation / Bribe sim to give recommendation)
Decrease CV points ❌
1. Work Reputation (Low)
2. Work Performance (Low)
3. Reputation (Low, Get Famous EP)
4. Grades from High school (Low)
5. Demoted / Fired
6. Dissuasion from other sims (Keep on good foot with the right sims!)
7. Crimes & Punishment (Repo-man / Caught for a crime & Punished ex. jail)
8. Worked in Criminal career (or is this a “secret” career?) - JOB INTERVIEWS 👨💼 LOT CHALLENGE: PICKY LABOR MARKET
Check daily job offers online. Pick a job, get some (optional) Preparatory tasks and a scheduled Job Interview (Sim will be sent to Rabbit Hole). Freelance careers are always available (no need for CV or Job interview).
Increase chance of getting the job:
1. CV points (High)
2. High Needs / Confident or Happy / Completed Preparatory tasks
3. Charisma skill (High)
4. Relationship with CEO (High)
5. Bribe the CEO (Higher chance = If high Charisma skill / The CEO has the Materialistic Trait) - LICENCES & FAKE LICENCES 📜 LOT CHALLENGE: PICKY LABOR MARKET
- Some careers needs a LICENCE (Toggle on / off)
- Sims that have an University Degree can order a LICENCE online (Money fee + Take a test)
- Different Degrees offer different Licenses: ex. The Biology Degree offer Nurse License & Doctor License.
- Pay for a Fake LICENCE / Cleaning up your CV but risk of getting caught and punished ex. Jail / Money / Decreased CV points. Lower risk of getting caught if your sim have a High Mischief skill or Working in a Criminal career.
- SKILLS UPDATE: CURRENT SHAPE & LOSING SKILLS
- All skills will have a skill Info panel that show Current Skill Shape
- Not performing a skill for a while = Decrease the Current Skill Shape
- Very low Current Shape for a longer period of time (We talking age stages!) = risk to lose some skill levels.
- Current Skill Shape are especially important for some Freelance careers & Competing careers (Musician / Soccer player / Competing Snowboarder / etc).
- NEW LOT TYPE: WORKPLACE LOT - WORK AT PREFERED LOT
- New Lot Trait: Workplace (ex. A park / an Office building)
- Select which Careers that are Linked to the lot.
- Sims in these Careers will spawn on this lot and work at their work hours. Some sims can spawn after their work hours to work overtime (Higher chance if the sim is: Ambitious / Work alcoholic / Responsible / etc).
- Select a Workplace for your sim and choose Work At Prefered Lot option when sending your sim to work. This will send the sim to the selcted lot +multiple Daily Tasks to complete
- New Lot Trait: Workplace (ex. A park / an Office building)
- FREELANCE CAREERS 🌟
1. ARTIST 🎨 (Gigs: Painting / Wood working / Sculpting / Glas blowing / etc)
2. MUSCIAN 🎙️ (Gigs: Singing / DJ / Drums / Saxophone / etc)
3. COMPOSER 🎼 (Gigs: Music production skill / Composing skill)
4. ENTERTAINER 🤡 (Gigs: Comedy)
5. CATERER 🥘 (Gigs: Find out customer’s wishes / Kind of event / Allergies / Favorite Food & Drink / Theme. Prepare food at home & take to Rabbit hole / Prepare food at a Party / Event)
6. PHOTOGRAPHER 📷 (Gigs: Family photos / Nature photos ex. Take a photo of a Fox fighting a Bunny).
7. OUTDOOR SPORT INSTRUCTOR 🥾 (Gigs: Skiing / Snowboarding / Fishing / Hiking / etc)
8. FREELANCE JOURNALIST 📰 (Gigs: Interview Celebrity / Investigating reportage / Review new Movie = Functional Rabbit Hole Cinema / Travel Reportage = Travel + Perform activities + Meet locals + Taste local Food & Drinks / etc)
+All current Freelance careers - COMPETING CAREERS & SPONSOR GIGS 💪 (Overhaul of the Athlete career!)
⚽ SOCCER PLAYER / 🏀 BASKETBALL PLAYER
- 1 Rabbit Hole Stadium (visitable) + 2 Rival Soccer Teams ⚽ + 2 Rival Basket Teams 🏀
- Sims need to show of their ability (go to Rabbit hole, similar to Job interviews) to get the job
- Match every Saturday + weekly Tasks (improve chances of winning).
- Improved pop-ups (To much random result! To less visuals! The pop-up Doesn’t show what sim it affects!).
- Increase chance of winning: Completed weekly tasks / Mood / Injuries / Skill level / Current skill shape / Team relationships / Training sessions.
Salary: Money + Fame
Only payment for completed Matches (depending on the result). Higher Career level = Higher Payment.
Career Levels: 1-5+
Weekly Tasks: Work out 1 hour for 5 days / Stretch / Get a massage / Visit Hospital and get treatment (Visitable Hospitals)
💪 BODYBUILDER / 💻 E-SPORT GAMER / ⛷️ PROFESSIONAL SKIIER / 🏂🏿 PROFESSIONAL SNOWBOARDER / 🏊🏽 PROFESSIONAL SWIMMER / ⛸️ PROFESSIONAL ICE SKATER- All of above skills added as separate skills (ex. Swimming / Skating / etc) . Most Fitness skills (ex. Swimming) also level up Fitness.
Salary: Money + Fame
Only payment for completed Competitions (depending on the result). Higher Difficulty level on Competition = Higher Payment.
Career Levels: 1-5+
Competitions: (Various of Gigs on your chosen skill, 3 Difficulty levels: Easy / Medium / Hard)
SPONSOR GIGS
Sims can do Sponsor Gigs from a Career level 2+. This will give sims an income between Matches / Competitions. Sponsor gigs can decrease / increase a Sims Work Reputation / Reputation / Fame / Relationsships.
Sponsor Gigs: Wear an (ridiculous) outfit in a Public area / TV advertisement / Publish a Simsta story or Blog post / Take photo wearing a certain outfit / Take a photo Eating or Drinking specific things / Record a video when using an item +publish / Attend event / Attend location (ex. specific bar) multiple times - REGULAR CAREERS 💼
BUSSINESS CAREER 📈Janitor (5 salary levels)MEDICINE CAREER (Doctor Career) 🩺
Secretary = Business Secretary (5 Salary levels)
Office worker (10 Salary levels)
Accountant (5 Salary levels) LICENCE
Business CEO (endless Salary levels)
ACTIVE CAREER
Investor (Salary depends on your investments. Invest in ex. Restaurants / Retails / Rabbit holes in your save. Introduce Banks & Loans and Functional Rabbit holes (THREAD).Janitor Hospital (5 salary levels)CULINARY CAREERS 🍳
Secretary = Medical Secretary(5 Salary levels)
Assistant nurse (5 Salary levels)
Nurse (10 Salary levels) LICENCE
Doctor (10 salary levels) LICENCE
Hospital CEO (endless Salary levels)Pastry chef & Baker (5 Salary levels)EDUCATION CAREER 🍎
Chef (5 Salary levels)
Bartender (5 Salary levels) -Spawn as Bartenders in bars!
Playable Restaurant Employees: Chef / Host / WaitressJanitor = School Janitor (5 salary levels)JOURNALISM CAREER 📰
Kindergarten Teacher (10 Salary Levels, Active career)
Grade school Teacher (10 Salary levels) LICENCE
Professor (10 Salary levels) LICENCE
Choose 1 - Multiple Subjects: Art / History / Psychology / etc = will affect your Salary and required Skills for Promotion. Spawn as Professor in your save & don’t lose their job when played.
Education CEO = Head Chancellor (endless Salary levels)Secretary Journalism (5 Salary levels)ATHLETE 💪
Employed Journalist (10 Salary Levels)
Journalism CEO = Editor-in-Chief (endless Salary levels)Personal trainer (5 salary levels) -spawn as Personal Trainers on gymsNPC CAREERS - PLAYABLE 🧑🏾🤝🧑🏽
Athletic Instructor (5 salary levels)
Choose 1 - Multiple Subjects: Soccer / Basket / Swimming / Skating / etc = will affect your Salary and required Skills for Promotion.
All NPC careers as regular playable careers: Librarian / Repairman / Maid / etc.
And so on... (more careers!) - CAREER ASPIRATIONS
Most of the Regular careers has Career Aspirations with multiple Tasks / Milestones. Complete the Aspiration to get a Salary raise + Reward.
Janitor Aspiration (REWARD: Handy Trait)
Secretary Aspiration (REWARD: Quick reader Trait)
Office worker Aspiration
Investor Aspiration
Kindergarten teacher Aspiration (REWARD: Kid Friendly Trait)
Grade school teacher Aspiration (REWARD: Pedagogical Trait)
Nurse Aspiration (REWARD: Nurturing Trait)
Doctor Aspiration (REWARD: Medicine Maker B&B object)
CEO Aspiration (REWARD: The Boss Trait)
Culinary Aspiration (Chef & Pastry chef / REWARD: Ability to do Tv-gigs = Money + Fame)
HAPPY SIMMING EVERYONE! Post edited by carpe_diem on
REFRESH THE CAREER SYSTEM - Do You Want This? 51 votes
YES I'm Interested
56%
29 votes
Maybe
21%
11 votes
No I'm not interested
21%
11 votes
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Comments
https://forums.thesims.com/en_US/discussion/993546/should-they-do-an-overhaul-or-ep-for-game-development#latest
Posted in the thread, but I just wanna say: Like the idea! Things like that would give more creativity to careers!
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Because I can't; I keep all sigs turned off.
I specifically want to be able to assign Sims to/actively control Sims in NPC jobs in retail and restaurants like with vet clinics. If I can assign more, even better. I also want to get rid of the arbitrary branching barriers. If my Sims want to have both the chef and mixologist branches under their belts, they should be allowed to. Career aspirations are an interesting idea because some aspirations do involve that, but it is generally not that fulfilling to climb to the top of the career ladder in 4. I do think there needs to be more incentives to it, but I am not sure if having an aspiration for every career is the right way to go even if it worked in 3. Career traits might have to be the thing that makes playing renaissance Sims special.
Something I do not want is to take away careers. For example, I do not mind entertainers getting freelance elements or a freelance equivalent, but do not take away the standardized path either. One of interesting things about careers is that there can be so many different variations and paths, so I would want to avoid stripping any of variation it already has.
Although on a side note everyone wants EVERYTHING refreshed now🤭🤭 I could be wrong but I doubt they would go and refresh the entire game and all 40 packs AND for free lol
My guess is they refresh things based on popularity. What do people want refreshed the most?
Dine Out seems to be majority opinion. At least the vocal majority. I am not so convinced it is based on popularity, though. The new content schedule never really seemed super based on popular opinion, even if you argue they eventually got around to this or that. I certainly do not think popularity explains why Spa Day specifically was chosen. The live stream only mentioned its age as a factor, but there was no explanation for the full decision process.
Personally a C&D refresh would make my month, perhaps my game, but I am probably in the minority.
PICKY LABOR MARKET
-Daily offers on which jobs are available
-CV:s / Job Interviews / Licences
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Was going to vote "Maybe", but the Lot Challenge idea won me over.
Additionally I'd want the game to take into account which of my played sims is where on the career track. For example a sims applying for a job in customer support (Tech Guru) or basic office work (Corporate Drone or whatever the career from Snowy escape is called) should have to face one of my own CEOs (from the Business career) in a job interview.
I'd also love to define companies that in turn hire sims from different careers. For example one low level Tech Guru might work for "CyberLife" with a played Personnel Manager, while another low level Tech Guru might work for "Generic electronics company" where the manager is an npc. Freelancers could be loosely associated with a company if they so desire. I already keep track of such things with the club system, but having my headcanon made real in the game would be the icing on that cake.
Yeah I agree all branches should be available.
But I would love to see more freedom in the career titles (to limiting).
Ex. Played my Flamenco Guitarist sim the other day. She works in the Entertainer career and got promoted to Professional Pianist. 😓 That really breaks the story, I would prefer if there was more neutral career titles / Freedom of the required skill (optional instrument).
Maybe they can add a Freelance Musician + A regular career called Employed Musician? (level up optional instrument to get promoted)
And also: Agree that C&D need a refresh! (I don’t think you are a minority on that, if packs like Dine out / OD was fixed, we would probably hear more requests on C&D).
Do you have any ideas on a C&D Refresh? I can’t find a thread on it.
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Hehe yeah Refresh is really trending right now. 😅 But Sims 4 an old game, maybe it’s having a middle aged crisis and want some new perspectives (Sims 4 would probably buy a new red sport car for their 7th birthday if there was any cars in the game... hehe) 😁🚗
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I'd like my sims to actually EARN those high paying careers, rather than just play chess for an hour and all of a sudden they're qualified to become a general practitioner at the hospital. No career progression whatsoever until your sim goes to school and earns their degree. And with interviews, you know how if you dont get hired the manager says "we have your resume on file, so try again in 6months" or whatever? What if you can't re-apply for that same job for a week? In that time if your sim resends their resume and works on their skills, then maybe they'll get the job?
And since alot of jobs these days tend to be more "who you know", what if you're talking to a sim that works in the same career that you're trying to get into? Perhaps with a high enough friendship, you can ask them to "put in a good word for you" (this interaction is only available if your sim is still waiting to hear the results from the interview ) and boost your chances at getting employed?
I don't think you would have to get a degree, per se. Some people go into fields self-taught. If you need more education, the workplaces may pay for you to have it.
I'm also interested in decaying skills, but I agree there should be a way of negating it for those who don't want it, be it a reward trait or a toggle.
As for aspirations for every career, I personally would love it, but I acknowledge that it would be a lot of new choices to have to sift through. It's always bothered me that a handful of the aspirations require a specific job to complete them, so what I propose is a new separate category be created for job related aspirations. That way we could choose two aspirations for our sims, one relating to a job and the other for non job related goals. Again, the job related aspiration should be optional or there should be a unemployed aspiration for those who don't want their sim to pursue a career.
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