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    bella_gothbella_goth Posts: 1,770 Member
    edited February 2021 in The Sims 4 General Discussion
    i'm aware they are only sims therefore don't exist, but given ea keeps talking about representation and cultures i took a couple of minutes to wonder & search where could some ts4 premades "be" from, so i based on their surname, their features and the packs they're in to kinda get where did devs took the inspiration to make them. some packs are strongly based on irl places, so acting like their premades were made casually is quite naΓ―ve. but anyways don't take this too seriously as it's just a thread for fun.
    so what do you think?

    Base Game
    Bella Goth: italian/hispanic
    Mortimer Goth: french/american/german
    the Calientes: hispanic/arabic
    the Landgraabs: french/english american
    Alice Spencer-Kim: korean

    Get Together
    the Villareal: spanish/french
    the Munch: german/austrian
    the Bjergsens: danish/swedish
    the Behr: german/japanese
    the Fyres: irish
    Ulrike Faust: german
    Maaike Haas: dutch
    Sergio Romeo: spanish/italian
    Joaquin Le Chien: french/spanish
    Eva Capricciosa: italian
    Jade Rosa: hispanic
    Paolo Rocca: italian

    City Living
    the Fengs: chinese
    the Bheeda: indian
    the Rasoya: indian
    Akira Kibo: japanese
    Miko Ojo: japanese
    Darling Walsh: english

    Get Famous
    Venessa Jeong: korean

    Island Living & Snowy Escape
    sulani premades are based on polynesian islands and mt komorebi premades are based on japan.

    thank you all for keeping it civilized! will update with newer sims!
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      OEII1001OEII1001 Posts: 3,682 Member
      Fun fact -- in my canon, Candy Behr's real name is Miyoko. She hates it; thinks it sounds too ethnic so she goes by her stage name. Her sister calls her Miyoko when they fight because it really winds Candy up.
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      So_MoneySo_Money Posts: 2,536 Member
      Just going by surnames, I’d put the Landgraabs down as Dutch.
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      bella_gothbella_goth Posts: 1,770 Member
      So_Money wrote: Β»
      Just going by surnames, I’d put the Landgraabs down as Dutch.

      dutch? is it for the aa on the surname or there's a dutch meaning?

      i put them as french because on sims 3 they have a mansion on champ les sims, but also english because their surname is a play on land grabbing. they have also similar surname sims on the sims medieval which, given how rich they are on every game, could mean they are very old money.
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      So_MoneySo_Money Posts: 2,536 Member
      edited December 2020
      bella_goth wrote: Β»
      So_Money wrote: Β»
      Just going by surnames, I’d put the Landgraabs down as Dutch.

      dutch? is it for the aa on the surname or there's a dutch meaning?

      i put them as french because on sims 3 they have a mansion on champ les sims, but also english because their surname is a play on land grabbing. they have also similar surname sims on the sims medieval which, given how rich they are on every game, could mean they are very old money.

      Yeah, at a glance it’s the β€œlong vowels” (aa) that you see a lot of in the Dutch language.
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      RouensimsRouensims Posts: 4,858 Member
      edited December 2020
      So_Money wrote: Β»
      bella_goth wrote: Β»
      So_Money wrote: Β»
      Just going by surnames, I’d put the Landgraabs down as Dutch.

      dutch? is it for the aa on the surname or there's a dutch meaning?

      i put them as french because on sims 3 they have a mansion on champ les sims, but also english because their surname is a play on land grabbing. they have also similar surname sims on the sims medieval which, given how rich they are on every game, could mean they are very old money.

      Yeah, at a glance it’s the β€œlong vowels” (aa) that you see a lot of in the Dutch language.

      I thought they'd be Dutch as well. But I agree with a lot of the others. And that's interesting reasoning for their being French. Maybe they're of Dutch descent but live in France.
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      MDianaSimsMDianaSims Posts: 4,177 Member
      Actually, in Dutch it would be Landgraaf, so not sure who put the b on the end, because that's not typical for Dutch names. I do believe the Landgraab family is called Landgraaf in the Dutch version of the game.
      I'd rather think their name comes from "land grab" and the added "a" is to make it look fancier. I mean, that would fit with how they accumulated their money.
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      ChazzzyChazzzy Posts: 7,166 Member
      edited December 2020
      How come you skipped some of the families from these packs?
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      bella_gothbella_goth Posts: 1,770 Member
      Chazzzy wrote: Β»
      How come you skipped some of the families from these packs?

      some are based on tv shows (like the roomies) some are from sims spin offs (the BFF are mysims characters) some i forgot and some i have no idea. but i will list the ones i forgot to add:
      the Jang: not sure, google says their surname is korean, Baako is an Akan name, searched it and google says the Akan are an ethnic group that lives on Ghana, the Ivory Coast and Togo, and their language is from the niger-congo family. regarding Anaya and Billie, they are names very common everywhere and different google sites claim a different origin place for them so i couldn't really tell.
      Diego Lobo: hispanic
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      sennawalessennawales Posts: 192 Member
      Bella is not Hispanic, don't forget that she's actually Bella Bachelor, which is a British name, her parents Simis and Jocasta are also British names (imported from other parts of Europe, but have a history/presence in Britain), and of course her brother Michael.
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      AuroraskiesAuroraskies Posts: 1,834 Member
      I would say Bjergsen would be more danish than swedish; very uncommon name in Sweden, and the spelling is danish.
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      bella_gothbella_goth Posts: 1,770 Member
      edited December 2020
      sennawales wrote: Β»
      Bella is not Hispanic, don't forget that she's actually Bella Bachelor, which is a British name, her parents Simis and Jocasta are also British names (imported from other parts of Europe, but have a history/presence in Britain), and of course her brother Michael.

      Bella is an italian/spanish word meaning beautiful (in feminine singular form, the masculine version would be bello), i didn't look on her maiden name because, as many ts2 surnames, they're rather focused on the household characteristics rather than a nationality (think of the pleasants, the grunts, the curious, the broke, the dreamer, etc, also these names translate depending on the language you set the game) i was hesitating whether to add the Goths to this list for the same reason, but given how they are a tribute to the Addams family i added them. i think Bella is to Gomez what Mortimer is to Morticia, for their names and their personality.

      also according to google Simis is a pun for "sim is bachelor" about Jocasta and Michael i guess they're common names in uk but like you said they're from other parts, Jocasta having a greek origin and Michael being a biblical name.
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      CherryBerryCloudCherryBerryCloud Posts: 689 Member
      Interesting topic. I've often wondered the same - simulated or not, they're meant to represent real people so it's obvious many of them are based on real ethnicities, nationalities, and races.
      • I'd pin Salim Benali to be Arab based on his name.
      • Zoe Patel is Indian.
      • Lee (for Liberty Lee) is a common surname in many countries, notably Korea, China, and Vietnam, so who knows what she is.
      • Don is widely believed to be Italian, but I also read that the word lothario has Spanish origins.
      • Mitchell Kalani is Hawaiian, as is Kai Kahue, Keala Hoapili, the Kealohas, and the Kahananuis. Oliana Ngata is Māori.
      • The Delgatos in Brindleton Bay.. well, their surname means "of the cat" in Spanish..
      OEII1001 wrote: Β»
      Fun fact -- in my canon, Candy Behr's real name is Miyoko. She hates it; thinks it sounds too ethnic so she goes by her stage name. Her sister calls her Miyoko when they fight because it really winds Candy up.

      Haha, I love that! Miyoko is a cute name. :) I can totally see Candy frowning and swiping at Yuki's head when she calls her Miyoko.

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      I have loved the stars too truly to be fearful of the night.

      Ha'aheo, e hoʻomau i kō kāua aloha, kau a kau.
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      bella_gothbella_goth Posts: 1,770 Member
      edited December 2020
      @CherryBerryCloud oof i forgot Salim Benali too, yes pretty sure he's meant to be arabic! (not sure of from where exactly , but meant to have arabic origins for sure). regarding some roomies, if it wasn't for their reference to "new girl" i'd have also guessed Zoe Patel is indian and Mitchell Kalani is hawaiian. regarding Liberty i also thought she was meant to be chinese but i wasn't sure.
      as for Don Lothario, like you said the Lotario name is more known for a spanish character in The Impertinent Curious, a novel inside the Don Quixote novel by Miguel de Cervantes, but Don seems to be also inspired on Don Juan who is also a fictional spanish character. both Lotario and Don Juan main characteristics are their seducer and libertine nature, so i guess devs took these references and made him.
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      StrawberryYogurtStrawberryYogurt Posts: 2,799 Member
      I guess no African American? Lol. I think the spencer side in spencer-kims are
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      NikkihNikkih Posts: 1,758 Member
      edited December 2020
      StrawberryYogurt wrote: Β»
      I guess no African American? Lol. I think the spencer side in spencer-kims are

      It's fine there no Scottish either πŸ˜‚, we need a Scottish sim called Hamish Murdoch, he could have stereotype hair colour red, big built, kilt and shouts forbidden words all the time and plays the bagpipes, I'd love it lol
      Edit: so more and less the fat Scottish guy in Austin Powers πŸ˜‚ we need a character like him lol, Mike Myers done the Scottish accent brilliantly 🀣, us scots find it hilarious how films portrays us lol @StrawberryYogurt
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      CinebarCinebar Posts: 33,618 Member
      edited December 2020
      MDianaSims wrote: Β»
      Actually, in Dutch it would be Landgraaf, so not sure who put the b on the end, because that's not typical for Dutch names. I do believe the Landgraab family is called Landgraaf in the Dutch version of the game.
      I'd rather think their name comes from "land grab" and the added "a" is to make it look fancier. I mean, that would fit with how they accumulated their money.

      The name was the name of a real CEO at EA. Most of the names that have been carried over from one generation of Simmers to the next are real people's names that worked on the games or at EA etc. Yes, Goopy was a real person. :) developer, Landgrabb, Le Tourneau etc. were real people, men who either had invested in EA or were upper crusty CEOs and some of the developers/producers such as Tim Le Tourneau. Had nothing to do with nationalities and or diversty. ETA: Bella Goth was not of any particular nationalty in The Sims. She isn't even as dark skinned as TS4 created her. Nor is her hair correct. The Goths simply had either a particular head, and or outfit and were based/inspired on the characters from a cartoon in Will Wright's time.
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      bella_gothbella_goth Posts: 1,770 Member
      Cinebar wrote: Β»
      MDianaSims wrote: Β»
      Actually, in Dutch it would be Landgraaf, so not sure who put the b on the end, because that's not typical for Dutch names. I do believe the Landgraab family is called Landgraaf in the Dutch version of the game.
      I'd rather think their name comes from "land grab" and the added "a" is to make it look fancier. I mean, that would fit with how they accumulated their money.

      The name was the name of a real CEO at EA. Most of the names that have been carried over from one generation of Simmers to the next are real people's names that worked on the games or at EA etc. Yes, Goopy was a real person. :) developer, Landgrabb, Le Tourneau etc. were real people, men who either had invested in EA or were upper crusty CEOs and some of the developers/producers such as Tim Le Tourneau. Had nothing to do with nationalities and or diversty. ETA: Bella Goth was not of any particular nationalty in The Sims. She isn't even as dark skinned as TS4 created her. Nor is her hair correct. The Goths simply had either a particular head, and or outfit and were based/inspired on the characters from a cartoon in Will Wright's time.

      but Cinebar i remember we talked about this landgraab ceo on another thread and the only thing i had found was "Malcolm first appears in SimCity 3000, where he is the CEO of Landgraab Industries." https://sims.fandom.com/wiki/Malcolm_Landgraab_(console)
      i would really love if some time it was possible you could provide the source. may he perhaps appear on the credits?

      this is the Simcity Malcolm
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      perhaps the goths inspiration from the Addams could have been one of the references to create the goths aesthetic but not the main one, and this similarity was later more emphasized for example on Mortimer's outfit on ts3 which looks like Pugsley Addams's.
      i think devs had different sources of inspiration through the games, but also different devs had input on these premades so, many things are mismatched. who made ts4 Bella is not the same developer that made ts1 Bella, same with every premade.
      if it wasn't for the Addams i wouldn't have really put the Goths on this list. because like other premades especially on ts2 (pleasants, deamers, grunts, etc), rather than by nationality they seem more based on a characteristic that defines them.
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      bella_gothbella_goth Posts: 1,770 Member
      StrawberryYogurt wrote: Β»
      I guess no African American? Lol. I think the spencer side in spencer-kims are

      yes most likely! i have a hard time spotting someone from the usa. the reason i have put Mortimer as american was for the Addams, and the Landgraabs because it was rather a personal observation, but other than them i don't know.
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      bella_gothbella_goth Posts: 1,770 Member
      Nikkih wrote: Β»
      StrawberryYogurt wrote: Β»
      I guess no African American? Lol. I think the spencer side in spencer-kims are

      It's fine there no Scottish either πŸ˜‚, we need a Scottish sim called Hamish Murdoch, he could have stereotype hair colour red, big built, kilt and shouts forbidden words all the time and plays the bagpipes, I'd love it lol
      Edit: so more and less the fat Scottish guy in Austin Powers πŸ˜‚ we need a character like him lol, Mike Myers done the Scottish accent brilliantly 🀣, us scots find it hilarious how films portrays us lol @StrawberryYogurt

      cartoons tend to use stereotypes to represent something creators have in mind. the sims is a cartoony videogame caricaturizing irl aspects so of course it will always use some stereotypes, rl is too complex for a game.
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      Frn0731Frn0731 Posts: 7,180 Member
      edited December 2020
      @StrawberryYogurt USA like Canada is a great big melting pot of nationalities, so it would be impossible to define by the surnames. Only the Indians and Eskimos would be native in USA and Canada.
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      NikkihNikkih Posts: 1,758 Member
      edited December 2020
      bella_goth wrote: Β»
      Nikkih wrote: Β»
      StrawberryYogurt wrote: Β»
      I guess no African American? Lol. I think the spencer side in spencer-kims are

      It's fine there no Scottish either πŸ˜‚, we need a Scottish sim called Hamish Murdoch, he could have stereotype hair colour red, big built, kilt and shouts forbidden words all the time and plays the bagpipes, I'd love it lol
      Edit: so more and less the fat Scottish guy in Austin Powers πŸ˜‚ we need a character like him lol, Mike Myers done the Scottish accent brilliantly 🀣, us scots find it hilarious how films portrays us lol @StrawberryYogurt

      cartoons tend to use stereotypes to represent something creators have in mind. the sims is a cartoony videogame caricaturizing irl aspects so of course it will always use some stereotypes, rl is too complex for a game.

      I know 😊, I think a stereotype scot is funny though, some people get offended by their stereotype, I find it hilarious and so does most people in Scotland think it's funny lol were not easy too offend that's not just a stereotype lol , the accent is the only thing that is right and as for swearing lol, me personally I swear alot 🀣, I couldn't be on live TV lol for the swearing and of course 98% of world wouldn't be able to understand me hahaha
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      bella_gothbella_goth Posts: 1,770 Member
      edited December 2020
      Nikkih wrote: Β»
      bella_goth wrote: Β»
      Nikkih wrote: Β»
      StrawberryYogurt wrote: Β»
      I guess no African American? Lol. I think the spencer side in spencer-kims are

      It's fine there no Scottish either πŸ˜‚, we need a Scottish sim called Hamish Murdoch, he could have stereotype hair colour red, big built, kilt and shouts forbidden words all the time and plays the bagpipes, I'd love it lol
      Edit: so more and less the fat Scottish guy in Austin Powers πŸ˜‚ we need a character like him lol, Mike Myers done the Scottish accent brilliantly 🀣, us scots find it hilarious how films portrays us lol @StrawberryYogurt

      cartoons tend to use stereotypes to represent something creators have in mind. the sims is a cartoony videogame caricaturizing irl aspects so of course it will always use some stereotypes, rl is too complex for a game.

      I know 😊, I think a stereotype scot is funny though, some people get offended by their stereotype, I find it hilarious and so does most people in Scotland think it's funny lol were not easy too offend that's not just a stereotype lol , the accent is the only thing that is right and as for swearing lol, me personally I swear alot 🀣, I couldn't be on live TV lol for the swearing and of course 98% of world wouldn't be able to understand me hahaha

      i think some stereotypes are fun but some are just meant to hurt. when people makes fun and harmless stereotypes of where i'm from i can't help it but facepalm at the typical things but also have a good laugh.
      hmm, when i think of a scottish stereotype i think of Willie from the simpsons! is he accurate? haha
      ohh and also this video i found hilarious! what do you think?
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HpVhSx0fZwM
      stereotypes aside i think Scotland is beautiful, and i should really search more about it. <3
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      NikkihNikkih Posts: 1,758 Member
      edited December 2020
      bella_goth wrote: Β»
      Nikkih wrote: Β»
      bella_goth wrote: Β»
      Nikkih wrote: Β»
      StrawberryYogurt wrote: Β»
      I guess no African American? Lol. I think the spencer side in spencer-kims are

      It's fine there no Scottish either πŸ˜‚, we need a Scottish sim called Hamish Murdoch, he could have stereotype hair colour red, big built, kilt and shouts forbidden words all the time and plays the bagpipes, I'd love it lol
      Edit: so more and less the fat Scottish guy in Austin Powers πŸ˜‚ we need a character like him lol, Mike Myers done the Scottish accent brilliantly 🀣, us scots find it hilarious how films portrays us lol @StrawberryYogurt

      cartoons tend to use stereotypes to represent something creators have in mind. the sims is a cartoony videogame caricaturizing irl aspects so of course it will always use some stereotypes, rl is too complex for a game.

      I know 😊, I think a stereotype scot is funny though, some people get offended by their stereotype, I find it hilarious and so does most people in Scotland think it's funny lol were not easy too offend that's not just a stereotype lol , the accent is the only thing that is right and as for swearing lol, me personally I swear alot 🀣, I couldn't be on live TV lol for the swearing and of course 98% of world wouldn't be able to understand me hahaha

      i think some stereotypes are fun but some are just meant to hurt. when people makes fun and harmless stereotypes of where i'm from i can't help it but facepalm at the typical things but also have a good laugh.
      hmm, when i think of a scottish stereotype i think of Willie from the simpsons! is he accurate? haha
      ohh and also this video i found hilarious! what do you think?
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HpVhSx0fZwM
      stereotypes aside i think Scotland is beautiful, and i should really search more about it. <3

      Yes ! That's how alot of us talk like 🀣, I speak like that 'oan it' 🀣🀣🀣🀣, that's spot on lol there's a moose loose aboot this hoose lol, willie from the Simpsons is a bit of a mixture his accent is right 🀣, hes what we sound like tryna be polite πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚, here's a video you may like lol
      https://youtu.be/QiFBmVvM2k4
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      FatTribble23FatTribble23 Posts: 848 Member
      bella_goth wrote: Β»
      ohh and also this video i found hilarious! what do you think?

      Oh my gosh, that had me in stitches. I'm not actually sure how much the subtitles helped, lol. I love John Hannah, I thought he was British because of his accent in The Mummy. Then I saw him on a Scottish TV talk show and found out he was Scottish and I couldn't understand. One. Single. Word. LOL! No subtitles, either.
      Nikkih wrote: Β»

      It's fine there no Scottish either πŸ˜‚, we need a Scottish sim called Hamish Murdoch, he could have stereotype hair colour red, big built, kilt and shouts forbidden words all the time and plays the bagpipes, I'd love it lol

      My current male sim is called John Ferguson! He's not too stereotypical. No red hair or bagpipes. He is fond of shouting forbidden words, though. He's currently expecting his first child with my simself, if it's a girl, Deborah, if it's a boy, Ewan! :smile:
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      NikkihNikkih Posts: 1,758 Member
      FatTribble23 wrote: Β»
      bella_goth wrote: Β»
      ohh and also this video i found hilarious! what do you think?

      Oh my gosh, that had me in stitches. I'm not actually sure how much the subtitles helped, lol. I love John Hannah, I thought he was British because of his accent in The Mummy. Then I saw him on a Scottish TV talk show and found out he was Scottish and I couldn't understand. One. Single. Word. LOL! No subtitles, either.
      Nikkih wrote: Β»

      It's fine there no Scottish either πŸ˜‚, we need a Scottish sim called Hamish Murdoch, he could have stereotype hair colour red, big built, kilt and shouts forbidden words all the time and plays the bagpipes, I'd love it lol

      My current male sim is called John Ferguson! He's not too stereotypical. No red hair or bagpipes. He is fond of shouting forbidden words, though. He's currently expecting his first child with my simself, if it's a girl, Deborah, if it's a boy, Ewan! :smile:

      Yes were quite hard too understand, now imagine us speaking through a mask 🀣🀣 @FatTribble23
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