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Smarter Sims, Have You Ever Seen One?

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  • CinebarCinebar Posts: 32,623 Member
    edited January 2
    I've come to the conclusion maybe some Sims were smarter but with EPs and other packs installed somehow Maxis broke their intelligence along the way in any of these games. For instance I had to recently change pcs. I only installed my games in TS2 through Seasons. That means I don't have BV nor FT installed. Nor many of the stuff packs during those time releases. The thing is I took a Sim to some community lots, and lo and behold the townies actually used the barista bar when they were low on energy. This is something that never happens anymore with later EPs past Seasons installed. Actually it was patched years before to keep Sims from all piling up at the bar trying to get coffee. But I was amazed they would actually use it again (as needed) not by attraction to object, without the later EPs installed. Go figure. Also, I noticed without the later EPs installed (something we forget I guess when playing all EPs in these games) that they would actually fix themselves something to eat very often (townies) if the mini fridge was on a community lot. Something they do once in a blue moon (even if very hungry) with later EPs installed. Or the townie leaves the lot to go off world. So, maybe Sims start out somewhat smart but they get dumbed down as Maxis adds packs. :/
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  • Renato10Renato10 Posts: 388 Member
    The Sims 4 sims are literally the dumbest
  • mtvsimsmtvsims Posts: 48 Member
    I think TS3 has smarter sims for me, my legacy founders always went after the ones with money without me even needing to do so #golddiggersftw
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  • Lee12321Lee12321 Posts: 318 Member
    I also remember in TS2 my sims could rearrange interactions to suit their needs which I always found great but I haven't seen in in any other games
  • izecsonizecson Posts: 2,722 Member
    Hope that Sims 4 sims eventually become smart, when I begin to notice that Sims actually gets smarter in Sims 4 it was all just an illusion and it was actually one of my installed mod that did that.
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  • OldeseadoggeOldeseadogge Posts: 3,247 Member
    When I played TS2 yesterday.
  • AngeliqueAdelaideAngeliqueAdelaide Posts: 541 Member
    edited January 15
    I think I had it happen once at Sims 3. I was out with my couple, the guy got hungry, so I sent him home to eat something. Came home a little later with the girl and he wasn't there. Turns out I had forgotten to add the fridge (they had just moved in), so the guy had gone to nearby bar to buy food. Smartest thing I have ever seen a sim do.
  • Deshong04Deshong04 Posts: 4,182 Member
    This is a blog which shares a scenario they placed their Sims into with minimal intervention. This is usually how I play my game as well because it's the only way to truly see how smart the A.I. can be and how in-depth it is. Of course, each Sim has its own A.I. too so just like in real life, Sims will always be different from one another in how they process themselves, others and the world around them.

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  • CinebarCinebar Posts: 32,623 Member
    I think I had it happen once at Sims 3. I was out with my couple, the guy got hungry, so I sent him home to eat something. Came home a little later with the girl and he wasn't there. Turns out I had forgotten to add the fridge (they had just moved in), so the guy had gone to nearby bar to buy food. Smartest thing I have ever seen a sim do.

    That's a good example of sometimes they show a rare ability to know they are hungry and need to eat rather than play on the pc and dance all day.
    "Games Are Not The Place To Tell Stories, Games Are Meant To Let People Tell Their Own Stories"...Will Wright.

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  • OldeseadoggeOldeseadogge Posts: 3,247 Member
    Have noticed that in TS2 the gal sims are much more likely to do something about it than the guys. One of my cardinal rules is when a sim moves in, immediately provide for food, sleep, and bathroom functions since world nature doesn't enable what that sim did.
  • Chicklet453681Chicklet453681 Posts: 1,141 Member
    Deshong04 wrote: »
    This is a blog which shares a scenario they placed their Sims into with minimal intervention. This is usually how I play my game as well because it's the only way to truly see how smart the A.I. can be and how in-depth it is. Of course, each Sim has its own A.I. too so just like in real life, Sims will always be different from one another in how they process themselves, others and the world around them.

    https://aliceandkev.wordpress.com/

    Thanks for that link! I read the entire story and it was awesome!
  • Deshong04Deshong04 Posts: 4,182 Member
    You're welcome. :)
    "Most of the world did not treat him any differently; few knew the name of Drizzt Do'Urden. But Drizzt knew now that he owed no apologies, or excuses, for his black skin, and to those who placed unfair judgment upon him, he offered none."
  • pepperjax1230pepperjax1230 Posts: 7,812 Member
    Sorry but what is a smart sim again? Mine all seem to be dumb. :joy:
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  • OldeseadoggeOldeseadogge Posts: 3,247 Member
    You must be playing TS4. Try 2 or 3.
  • MagdaleenaMagdaleena Posts: 879 Member
    Remember in the Sims 2 when the Sims chatted their speech bubbles would show you what subject their talking about and they also moved their hands according to the subject of the conversation?

    Not only that, these speech bubbles also kinda correlated to each other?? It actually feels like you're able to follow a conversation through pictures. It's nice.

    In TS4 they're just utterly random and meaningless and not related at all. If you try to make up a conversation for them in your head it takes effort to connect the pictures in a sensible way, and the fact that these speech bubbles don't even show up when you try to take pictures really doesn't help the case. It's like what they're talking about doesn't even matter.
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  • OldeseadoggeOldeseadogge Posts: 3,247 Member
    Have noticed the conversation thing in TS2 as well, particularly when the sims are talking about a subject they both are interested in. Not only are there the speech bubbles and hand movements, but the facial expressions are many, varied, and seem to not only enhance the conversation but are very true to life.
  • CinebarCinebar Posts: 32,623 Member
    edited January 28
    Sorry but what is a smart sim again? Mine all seem to be dumb. :joy:

    I remember back in TS2 we complained the townies never fixed any hotdogs etc. when our hungry Sim was on a community lot and perhaps didn't have any money to pay the $8 for using a grill. They finally added that and townies will go ahead and grill sometimes or use the Uni fridge if our Sim is getting really hungry and fix a meal out of something. But it's a dice roll whether they will do that soon enough before our own Sim has to go ahead first and or if they don't keel over before someone gets around to it.

    TS4 Sims cook on the grills maybe too much. I'm not sure any of these games ever had any smart Sims, either. ETA: I think perhaps TS2 Sims are the smartest but I take it back when they are standing there screaming at me they need fun, well, go turn on the TV or the stereo or the computer or something. :s But TS4 Sims do fun things all day with it totally full..maybe they should learn a skill or something so it's a not so smart after all, either.
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  • izecsonizecson Posts: 2,722 Member
    Cinebar wrote: »
    Sorry but what is a smart sim again? Mine all seem to be dumb. :joy:

    I remember back in TS2 we complained the townies never fixed any hotdogs etc. when our hungry Sim was on a community lot and perhaps didn't have any money to pay the $8 for using a grill. They finally added that and townies will go ahead and grill sometimes or use the Uni fridge if our Sim is getting really hungry and fix a meal out of something. But it's a dice roll whether they will do that soon enough before our own Sim has to go ahead first and or if they don't keel over before someone gets around to it.

    TS4 Sims cook on the grills maybe too much. I'm not sure any of these games ever had any smart Sims, either. ETA: I think perhaps TS2 Sims are the smartest but I take it back when they are standing there screaming at me they need fun, well, go turn on the TV or the stereo or the computer or something. :s But TS4 Sims do fun things all day with it totally full..maybe they should learn a skill or something so it's a not so smart after all, either.

    Ts4 Sims always get fixated with certain objects, people visiting your house as you as you let them in they will use their vampiric run to sit in front of the computer, take out trash, grilled. I witnessed multiple times at the free space in one of the newcrest neighborhood was literally littered by dozens of grilled food.
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  • CinebarCinebar Posts: 32,623 Member
    izecson wrote: »
    Cinebar wrote: »
    Sorry but what is a smart sim again? Mine all seem to be dumb. :joy:

    I remember back in TS2 we complained the townies never fixed any hotdogs etc. when our hungry Sim was on a community lot and perhaps didn't have any money to pay the $8 for using a grill. They finally added that and townies will go ahead and grill sometimes or use the Uni fridge if our Sim is getting really hungry and fix a meal out of something. But it's a dice roll whether they will do that soon enough before our own Sim has to go ahead first and or if they don't keel over before someone gets around to it.

    TS4 Sims cook on the grills maybe too much. I'm not sure any of these games ever had any smart Sims, either. ETA: I think perhaps TS2 Sims are the smartest but I take it back when they are standing there screaming at me they need fun, well, go turn on the TV or the stereo or the computer or something. :s But TS4 Sims do fun things all day with it totally full..maybe they should learn a skill or something so it's a not so smart after all, either.

    Ts4 Sims always get fixated with certain objects, people visiting your house as you as you let them in they will use their vampiric run to sit in front of the computer, take out trash, grilled. I witnessed multiple times at the free space in one of the newcrest neighborhood was literally littered by dozens of grilled food.

    Yeah, no matter which game, except maybe TS1, but no even in that game, visiting Sims always wanted to use the stuff in the house and or ignore the Sims in the home. Yes, and I did see in TS4 the open spaces are full of hot dog plates. It would seem to me it should dawn on one of them that there is already five plates of hotdogs maybe don't grill more. :s
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    https://forums.thesims.com/en_US/discussion/958714/cinebar-custom-content-clothes-updating-links/p1


  • Nikkei_SimmerNikkei_Simmer Posts: 7,929 Member
    edited February 20
    TS4 Sims remind me of Dug in Up.
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    I wish they would add in a function that allows the Watcher to give them a head-slap.

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