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blythemegan94

So, with the help of *mod* and the criminal career path, I was able to make a pair of roommates that are rather dastardly - BUT ITS SO HARD TO MAINTAIN! The mischief/mean interactions, declaring enemies - maybe it's just me, but making sims like this is rather difficult.

Have you had the same experience? Or are you a pro at evil Sims (if so pls, details)

edit: whoops! sorry for the slip up!!

alyssa123

i have autonomy off, so my evil sims are only mean/mischievous when i want them to be

LiELF

I have a bunch of Sims with the Evil trait, but I don't actually find them to be very evil. Most of the time they just laugh wickedly or smile when another Sim is distraught or crying, lol. I think that paired with the Mean trait it's a little more convincing. I wish the traits had more influence on personality though, because they still fill up with Happy buffs and hug other Sims all the time.

Humility925

Normal Sims program to be friendly, like Alyssa123 said, best turn autononmy off, use clubs and set goal mean and mischievous but no friendly socal, and even I had trouble to do with all member, I can only forced one at a time.

Hermitgirl

I make evil sims regularly they do more on their own if it's paired with other bad traits. Mean and hotheaded ... if hotheaded they get angry more often and act on their own. Other negative traits can bring out more action because of being uncomfortable or tense and also and of course skilling up the mischief skill can help.

Personally though I make a more evil sims with that I like to see as a sociopath if not a down right psychopath so I don't want them to be outwardly mean to other sims.. or get caught at doing bad things. I like them to be charming and nice but still enjoy the suffering around them. So often the trait is pretty spot on for the character I'm making.

QueenofMyshuno

Hermitgirl wrote: »

I like to see as a sociopath if not a down right psychopath so I don't want them to be outwardly mean to other sims.. or get caught at doing bad things. I like them to be charming and nice but still enjoy the suffering around them.

I literally laughed out loud when I read this. I like the way you think. That certainly makes for a much more interesting sim. Now you’ve got me thinking about how I can incorporate this type of sim into my storylines.😂😈

friendsfan367

so far the only evil thing my sim did was break up with his girlfriend. ironically that mad him happy. hes also non commital.

Sindocat

I tried recreating a TS3 household, that featured an Evil Criminal Mastermind head of house, and pretty much abandoned it because the Mischief interaction requirements were so demanding, he really had very little time to pursue anything else. I do feel a bit disappointed in the implementation of the career and trait.

izecson

my sim autonomously use mean interactions even though he neither has mean nor evil trait nor is he on angry mood, but I believe he was red on conflict resolution when he was teenager but not enough to receive argumentative trait.

annaliese39

I have one sim with the evil trait that I am rather fond of and has completed the Public Enemy aspiration. He's technically the same as my main sim, who is actually a 'good vampire', but in an alternative universe/save where emotional trauma triggered his 'dark side'/alternate personality to take back control. He has since become an infamous vampire boss in the criminal career and the leader/master of the vampires, who thanks to him now rule over everything behind the scenes - they're in the media, police, politics etc. "The greatest trick the Devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn't exist" after all. He is also the leader of an infamous club of elite vampires who serve him and enjoy wreaking havoc across the worlds. However, I'm not sure evil is exactly the right word to use for him. Certainly, some of his behaviour can be considered evil and sadistic, but I prefer my characters/sims to be more multifaceted than that. He is also very self-assured, well-mannered and charismatic, a quick learner and dance machine, and really seems to adore his wife and newborn daughter. So no, he's not without his good side. It's more that he freely does what he wants when he wants to and is I think secretly the person deep down in the darkest of our hearts we all wish we could be and for that reason he is so much fun to play when I'm in the mood for a little mischief.

DoloresGrey

I don't really see the point of having an evil sim. I mean seriously what's the point? You click on a mean interaction, they do it they're mean but their first interaction after the mean one is autonomous and it is ALWAYS anything friendly. Really? Like really?! It doesn't make any sense. It is ruined. Evil sims aren't truly evil. They're just trying. But they fail all the time. Every single time.

RIP-Troika-Games

DoloresGrey wrote: »

I don't really see the point of having an evil sim. I mean seriously what's the point? You click on a mean interaction, they do it they're mean but their first interaction after the mean one is autonomous and it is ALWAYS anything friendly. Really? Like really?! It doesn't make any sense. It is ruined. Evil sims aren't truly evil. They're just trying. But they fail all the time. Every single time.

@DoloresGrey
Urgh yes. I've had sims of mine that either got evil or mean trait being a nuisance to sims they hate, but as soon as I stop choose interactions and have autonomy on they will start chat all nicely. Why are you being nice?! You hate them!

I remember someone posted a comparison of the evil or mean trait from TS3 and TS4 not long ago, and the TS4 one just felt so shallow. They aren't much different from any other sim, except doing an "evil laugh" every now and then.

izecson wrote: »

my sim autonomously use mean interactions even though he neither has mean nor evil trait nor is he on angry mood, but I believe he was red on conflict resolution when he was teenager but not enough to receive argumentative trait.

@izecson
I've had sims with all manner of traits doing this before I got Parenthood. They have even been friends with the other sim they were targeting. So the conflict resolution may not be the culprit

RIP-Troika-Games

Hermitgirl wrote: »

I make evil sims regularly they do more on their own if it's paired with other bad traits. Mean and hotheaded ... if hotheaded they get angry more often and act on their own. Other negative traits can bring out more action because of being uncomfortable or tense and also and of course skilling up the mischief skill can help.

Personally though I make a more evil sims with that I like to see as a sociopath if not a down right psychopath so I don't want them to be outwardly mean to other sims.. or get caught at doing bad things. I like them to be charming and nice but still enjoy the suffering around them. So often the trait is pretty spot on for the character I'm making.

annaliese39 wrote: »

I have one sim with the evil trait that I am rather fond of and has completed the Public Enemy aspiration. He's technically the same as my main sim, who is actually a 'good vampire', but in an alternative universe/save where emotional trauma triggered his 'dark side'/other identity to take back control. He has since become an infamous vampire boss in the criminal career and the leader/master of the vampires, who thanks to him now rule over everything behind the scenes - they're in the media, police, politics etc. "The greatest trick the Devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn't exist" after all. He is also the leader of an infamous club of elite vampires who serve him and enjoy wreaking havoc across the worlds. However, I'm not sure evil is exactly the right word to use for him. Certainly, some of his behaviour can be considered evil and sadistic, but I prefer my characters/sims to be more multifaceted than that. He is also very self-assured, well-mannered and charismatic, a quick learner and dance machine, and really seems to adore his wife and newborn daughter. So no, he's not without his good side. It's more that he freely does what he wants when he wants to and is I think secretly the person deep down in the darkest of our hearts we all wish we could be and for that reason he is so much fun to play when I'm in the mood for a little mischief.

Affably Evil is the best evil

https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/AffablyEvil

izecson

izecson wrote: »

@izecson
I've had sims with all manner of traits doing this before I got Parenthood. They have even been friends with the other sim they were targeting. So the conflict resolution may not be the culprit

Well idk, maybe my sims is just being bipolar, he does that when he is having a friendly talk and then insulted his father out of the blue.

annaliese39

RIP-Troika-Games wrote: »

Hermitgirl wrote: »

I make evil sims regularly they do more on their own if it's paired with other bad traits. Mean and hotheaded ... if hotheaded they get angry more often and act on their own. Other negative traits can bring out more action because of being uncomfortable or tense and also and of course skilling up the mischief skill can help.

Personally though I make a more evil sims with that I like to see as a sociopath if not a down right psychopath so I don't want them to be outwardly mean to other sims.. or get caught at doing bad things. I like them to be charming and nice but still enjoy the suffering around them. So often the trait is pretty spot on for the character I'm making.

annaliese39 wrote: »

I have one sim with the evil trait that I am rather fond of and has completed the Public Enemy aspiration. He's technically the same as my main sim, who is actually a 'good vampire', but in an alternative universe/save where emotional trauma triggered his 'dark side'/other identity to take back control. He has since become an infamous vampire boss in the criminal career and the leader/master of the vampires, who thanks to him now rule over everything behind the scenes - they're in the media, police, politics etc. "The greatest trick the Devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn't exist" after all. He is also the leader of an infamous club of elite vampires who serve him and enjoy wreaking havoc across the worlds. However, I'm not sure evil is exactly the right word to use for him. Certainly, some of his behaviour can be considered evil and sadistic, but I prefer my characters/sims to be more multifaceted than that. He is also very self-assured, well-mannered and charismatic, a quick learner and dance machine, and really seems to adore his wife and newborn daughter. So no, he's not without his good side. It's more that he freely does what he wants when he wants to and is I think secretly the person deep down in the darkest of our hearts we all wish we could be and for that reason he is so much fun to play when I'm in the mood for a little mischief.

Affably Evil is the best evil

https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/AffablyEvil

Yes! They make bad look so good.

friendsfan367

even though my sim is non commital hes the best dad. he was previouly evil now he just has kleptomanac tendencies.

calaprfy

Evil/mean sims are 99% friendly. I have autonomy on and have a new mean sim in my game who has yet to be mean once!

I put them in infamous clubs so they begin in the red with any new sims they meet and fighting and declaring enemies is so easy, but you need to command them to do this.

Ireally do wish they were constantly horrible.

Babykittyjade

I have the same problem. Evil sims are so good its almost no point in using them I literally had to fight to stop my evil sim from hugging his enemy constantly. I gave up and now they are friends ugh.

5782341b77vl

Lot of my Sims, are either mean or EVIL - or at least, supposed to be! Nothing more irritating than an EVIL Sim who befriends the whole town.

One or two allies - ok - I understand! The whole ding-dang town - WHAT THE FRANK!

smurfy77

I once created a daughter for Vlad, she really didn't look like him as it was an,old sim of mine recreated, I pretended she looked like her lost mother, well Caleb Vatore fell for her and I had moved her to the city and had their wedding there, I have no idea what Vlad said to Caleb but they stopped talking a bit and I saw Vlad go up and ask Caleb about his day and little vampire spurned a vampiric duel immediately on his own, was kinda funny, guess that's what you buy into when you marry into his family ( he was already living with her at this time), she kinda stood there with a look that could have been saying, "Dad! Not again!" Lol

phantasmkiss

I only tried evil Sims once, though I do use a mean interaction now and then if my story calls for it. It's really really really super easy to fix poor relationships. Someone's angry because you just implied their mother was a llama? They'll still let you talk to them for fifteen minutes and end up liking you more in the end.

Sims 4 Sims are really nice.

friendsfan367

phantasmkiss wrote: »

I only tried evil Sims once, though I do use a mean interaction now and then if my story calls for it. It's really really really super easy to fix poor relationships. Someone's angry because you just implied their mother was a llama? They'll still let you talk to them for fifteen minutes and end up liking you more in the end.

Sims 4 Sims are really nice.

mine are too. even the previusly evil one . doesn't like mean interactions . he was a spare in my story. i was looking at the family tre and was shocked cause its a family with 7 kids but somehow the husband had 8.

alyssa123

is it bad that i seem to be the only person who has no trouble getting my evil sims to actually be evil? lol i've never had the problems ya'll are having with sims being too nice

izecson

Sims with bad manners trait or close to it even when they dont receive the trait when they age up to YA tend to be nastier than evil sims thsemlves.

SilentKitty

In my experience the evil trait doesn’t do much on it’s own. Pairing it with mean worked better for me but that leaves only one trait left.

I often find mean sims to be more interesting in gameplay, it just feels like more adverse stuff happen when they are around.

It is hard work to have a few sims acting mean towards a sim they don’t like. So easy for them to slip back to a pleasant conversation.

thesimmer14

My evil sim is rather rude in conversations. Like, 70% of the time. I have to keep an eye on them while their autonomy is on high.
I use several mods, such as Personality Please! from MTS [huge helper. couldn't play without it.], Shimrod's facial overlay [fixes smiling with all emotions issue], and Meaningful Stories by Roburky. These combined alleviate a lot of the "too nice" issues present in the game.

I've also found that giving them the Hot Headded trait helps them choose mean interactions more often.