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    What is with the crying?

    PHOEBESMOM601PHOEBESMOM601 Posts: 14,595 Member
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    I'm looking around and discovering WIndenburg. Looks like a nice place.............

    but.........I gotta ask...............what is all this crying in the closets? I sent my Sim to a bar and in the space of three Sim hours there were about 5 or 6 Sims crying in the closet at the bar. Is this normal or was it a bad night?

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      CinebarCinebar Posts: 33,618 Member
      @PHOEBESMOM601 Since no one else has answered I will. Sad Sims and or Sims with the gloomy trait can use the closet to cry it out etc. like they do the bed. But it seems there is always someone using the closet to cry in my game when I sent them to the new nightclubs and or bars where Maxis put the closets. It's weird. lol
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      PHOEBESMOM601PHOEBESMOM601 Posts: 14,595 Member
      There were that many sad or gloomy Sims in one bar in the space of a few hours?
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      AtomicSimmerAtomicSimmer Posts: 1,133 Member
      Just seeing this post makes me cry. Yes It is wierd to see that many cry at one time. :'(
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      jackjack_kjackjack_k Posts: 8,601 Member
      I believe Sims seem to get Sad at bars when Sims socialise and someone who's in a bad mood yells at them.
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      Sid1701D9Sid1701D9 Posts: 4,718 Member
      edited March 2016
      That is because the stupid Jealousy interaction is broken and everyone flirts with each other and eventually everyone gets Jealous, Also no such luck for clubs either, which is supposed to be above the jealousy interaction and the clubs are supposed to be above Its my house rule.

      Edit my sims romatic interest is in a romatic club, which is allowed to kiss and flirt, but my sim kisses another girl in the club one minute and its fine, than when my sim goes to kiss the other girl I get the shake head no interaction and waving her hand and pushing me away followed by the Very Sad mood which is caused by the +2 Drifting Love Moodlet which last 23 hours and ruins game play.
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      luthienrisingluthienrising Posts: 37,628 Member
      If you delete the bar closets, the Sims will just mope about being sad like usual. Though now that I think of it, a closet in the women's washrooms might be a good fit for gameplay...
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      Marycool33Marycool33 Posts: 151 Member
      Whenever I hear my sims cry, I feel so bad for them. It's like their depressed. I've heard my sims cry in the shower when they were uncomfortable, kind of disturbing.
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      PHOEBESMOM601PHOEBESMOM601 Posts: 14,595 Member
      Sid1701D9 wrote: »
      That is because the stupid Jealousy interaction is broken and everyone flirts with each other and eventually everyone gets Jealous, Also no such luck for clubs either, which is supposed to be above the jealousy interaction and the clubs are supposed to be above Its my house rule.

      Edit my sims romatic interest is in a romatic club, which is allowed to kiss and flirt, but my sim kisses another girl in the club one minute and its fine, than when my sim goes to kiss the other girl I get the shake head no interaction and waving her hand and pushing me away followed by the Very Sad mood which is caused by the +2 Drifting Love Moodlet which last 23 hours and ruins game play.

      I don't have a romantic club....just my one Sim guy but what you said sounds like my game. I've been around The Sims long enough to know the progression of interactions you have to do to get to romantic interactions. My poor guy had four....count em....four different girls over and he got the brush off from all of them.....AND there is a closet in his house (a premade in game) and either he or the girl.....sometimes both...who happened to be there ended up in the closet crying during their visit.
      luthienrising wrote: »
      If you delete the bar closets, the Sims will just mope about being sad like usual. Though now that I think of it, a closet in the women's washrooms might be a good fit for gameplay...

      You know @luthienrising I'm not saying this to fuss at you because I know you're trying to help but this goes back to something I said the other day. I'm really tired of "do this to get that result" in this game. The game came with a closet in the bar and I shouldn't have to delete it because it's wonky. It should work right!
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      luthienrisingluthienrising Posts: 37,628 Member
      I'm just not clear what's not "working right".
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      PHOEBESMOM601PHOEBESMOM601 Posts: 14,595 Member
      luthienrising wrote: »
      I'm just not clear what's not "working right".

      Are you saying that at some point every Sim in the place is supposed to end up crying in the closet?
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      luthienrisingluthienrising Posts: 37,628 Member
      PHOEBESMOM601 wrote: »
      luthienrising wrote: »
      I'm just not clear what's not "working right".

      Are you saying that at some point every Sim in the place is supposed to end up crying in the closet?

      I'm just asking what aspect of what you posted feels like a bug to you. For clarification.
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      PHOEBESMOM601PHOEBESMOM601 Posts: 14,595 Member
      luthienrising wrote: »
      PHOEBESMOM601 wrote: »
      luthienrising wrote: »
      I'm just not clear what's not "working right".

      Are you saying that at some point every Sim in the place is supposed to end up crying in the closet?

      I'm just asking what aspect of what you posted feels like a bug to you. For clarification.

      The fact that there were about 10 Sims in the bar and at least half of them ended up in the closet crying. It seems beyond the normal possibilities. Add to that he had four different girls over and at some point in each visit either he or one of the girls was in the closet crying. It's more like the obsession that TS3 Sims would get over a premium content item like the deep fryer or chocolate fountain.
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      GoldmoldarGoldmoldar Posts: 11,966 Member
      The AI system is not perfect meaning there is always a chance for it to go beyond it's parameters. There is no AI system that is perfect and the emotions in Sims 4 does not work sometimes as intended.
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      luthienrisingluthienrising Posts: 37,628 Member
      edited March 2016
      Sounds like randomization hitting a result that feels non-random (the way 5 boys in a row feels non-random even when it is. I do think that that should have at least the option to be corrected for, or should be corrected for with the option to let full, weirder-feeling randomization happen.
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      ShinobuTypeErrorShinobuTypeError Posts: 2,838 Member
      PHOEBESMOM601 wrote: »
      luthienrising wrote: »
      PHOEBESMOM601 wrote: »
      luthienrising wrote: »
      I'm just not clear what's not "working right".

      Are you saying that at some point every Sim in the place is supposed to end up crying in the closet?

      I'm just asking what aspect of what you posted feels like a bug to you. For clarification.

      The fact that there were about 10 Sims in the bar and at least half of them ended up in the closet crying. It seems beyond the normal possibilities. Add to that he had four different girls over and at some point in each visit either he or one of the girls was in the closet crying. It's more like the obsession that TS3 Sims would get over a premium content item like the deep fryer or chocolate fountain.

      Well, Sims are unable to cry in the closet unless they actually have the sad emotion. So either something going on at the bar that night made a bunch of people sad, or like luthienrising said, the game just happened to generate a bunch of sad Sims that evening. I've had nights in my game as well when the amount of sad Sims was above average. It's random.
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      DeKayDeKay Posts: 81,602 Member
      A bit off topic: Your sim can comfort the sim who's crying in the closet from the outside. :) Then that sim will come out sooner.
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      MightydanMightydan Posts: 2,983 Member
      Whenever I take my sims to a bar I might see 1 sad sim crying in the closet or an angry sim trying to calm down in the mirror, but never 6 like OP states. Maybe you've got a bunch of townies with the gloomy or family oriented traits?
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      AcatsimmerAcatsimmer Posts: 57 Member
      maybe your sims have the gloomy trait?
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      AcatsimmerAcatsimmer Posts: 57 Member
      the family-oriented trait might also cause this!
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      AcatsimmerAcatsimmer Posts: 57 Member
      hope this helped
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      PHOEBESMOM601PHOEBESMOM601 Posts: 14,595 Member
      StarlingGray wrote: »
      PHOEBESMOM601 wrote: »
      luthienrising wrote: »
      PHOEBESMOM601 wrote: »
      luthienrising wrote: »
      I'm just not clear what's not "working right".

      Are you saying that at some point every Sim in the place is supposed to end up crying in the closet?

      I'm just asking what aspect of what you posted feels like a bug to you. For clarification.

      The fact that there were about 10 Sims in the bar and at least half of them ended up in the closet crying. It seems beyond the normal possibilities. Add to that he had four different girls over and at some point in each visit either he or one of the girls was in the closet crying. It's more like the obsession that TS3 Sims would get over a premium content item like the deep fryer or chocolate fountain.

      Well, Sims are unable to cry in the closet unless they actually have the sad emotion. So either something going on at the bar that night made a bunch of people sad, or like luthienrising said, the game just happened to generate a bunch of sad Sims that evening. I've had nights in my game as well when the amount of sad Sims was above average. It's random.

      Trust me......with the amount of closet cryers I ran into.......I think it was 9 or10 separate instances in the two hours I had the game open......5 or 6 in the bar and 4 at my Sims house I found out about the comfort interaction.....but thanks any how.
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